Savonarola Against Astrology (1497)

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  • Here's a significant but little-known work in the history of astrology: the infamous Dominican Friar Girolamo Savonarola's 'The Futility and Superstition of the Traditions of Astrology' which is a brief anti-astrological polemic from 1497 during the Florentine Renaissance, and inspired by Pico della Mirandola's 'Against Divinatory Astrology.' It is taken from Savonarola's larger work 'The Triumph on the Cross' which is a collection of theological and polemical writings laying out his position on the reasonableness of the Catholic faith in the face of accusations of heresy and schism by Pope Alexander VI (a.k.a. Rodrigo Borgia).
    Translated by John Proctor, 1901
    Read by Dan Attrell
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 30

  • @piecingconstellations
    @piecingconstellations 11 місяців тому +17

    Please like, share, and leave a comment to be a sweet-smelling incense unto the algogods.
    ha! i said it before you

  • @SobekLOTFC
    @SobekLOTFC 11 місяців тому +7

    Wake up bro new TMH just dropped 😊
    Keep up the exceptional work, Dr Attrell 👏

    • @TheModernHermeticist
      @TheModernHermeticist  11 місяців тому

      Thanks Jason, hope you enjoy the invective

    • @ptcosmos
      @ptcosmos 11 місяців тому

      I wished someone was as happy as you for me

  • @Bildgesmythe
    @Bildgesmythe 11 місяців тому +3

    Thanks again for your hard work and beautiful voice.

  • @Voidshapr
    @Voidshapr 9 місяців тому +2

    This is an example of men thinking themselves grander than they are. Nothing happens under the lights in the firmament without their consent. We are only afforded a range of choices that appears to be free will.

  • @danyel80be40
    @danyel80be40 11 місяців тому +6

    The planets are bodies, but they are simple bodies, and their matter is the quintessence, or the Aether, which is more noble than the four elements of the sublunar sphere. As the Philosopher teaches, the operation follows the being, and the simple is superior and more powerful than the composite. Therefore, the acts and motions of the planets affect the rational creature which lives in the lower realm, but they do not affect its intelligence, but only its will, which is linked to its body. LOL. If I lived in this time, I would replay more or less in this way.
    Thank you, so interesting text!!! The more I read this kind of literature, the more I like it.

    • @renaissanceman419
      @renaissanceman419 10 місяців тому +1

      If I lived in this time, I would respond, sed contra, that the will is not ontologically distinct from the intellect, and hence inherits the simplicity of the intellect , as the will is simply the appetite of the intellect. Therefore, these bodies would not influence the will either.

  • @VivekaAlaya
    @VivekaAlaya 11 місяців тому +9

    savonarola seems to have been a horrible person

  • @euphoricdesignstx
    @euphoricdesignstx 10 місяців тому +1

    I looked for tyis piece, and the few versions I found this chapter is missing.

  • @ptcosmos
    @ptcosmos 11 місяців тому +16

    I still worship the sun lads

    • @ptcosmos
      @ptcosmos 11 місяців тому +1

      @@dirkjensen969 you silly

    • @TheModernHermeticist
      @TheModernHermeticist  11 місяців тому +6

      Brothers of the moon lasses

    • @ptcosmos
      @ptcosmos 11 місяців тому

      @@TheModernHermeticist brothers forever

  • @ENKI7477
    @ENKI7477 10 місяців тому +2

    Nice voice. Continue your channel.

  • @justynjedraszewski6094
    @justynjedraszewski6094 11 місяців тому +9

    His death at the stake on 1498 was very helpfull for young Copernicus, aged 25, because, being present at that time in Italy and studying Canon law, he could see how far he must be cautious discovering new astronomy contradicting biblical literal understanding of Genesis creation story; so he kept his De Revolutionibus manuscript almost secret and allowed its
    first edition in the last year of his life in1543,
    Galileo had to lie to save his skin 1633 and Bruno was burnt in 1600. There is no heresy in Savonarola's writings, he died as a rebel, a public menace.

    • @linguaLatinae
      @linguaLatinae 17 днів тому

      He wasn’t convicted because of his writings but because of his actions as a political figure. He became kind of a dictator in Florence for a short time…

  • @Cholatemilk1
    @Cholatemilk1 11 місяців тому +3

    Heck ya dan

  • @vincentfarrell3868
    @vincentfarrell3868 8 місяців тому

    St. Savonarola, pray for us!

  • @j3fr0uk
    @j3fr0uk 2 місяці тому

    Whoever wrote this clearly never spoke to our celestial bodies haha

  • @byurBUDdy
    @byurBUDdy 11 місяців тому

    Astrology is the 'study of stars', while astronomy 'is the naming of stars'.

    • @saxeisrap7846
      @saxeisrap7846 11 місяців тому +3

      Actually, astronomy is more like "laws of the stars", from the greek astron= star or cellestial object, and nomia=law. So it is more to be considered as a study of the laws that command the celestial objects and its relationships.

    • @1ntrcnnctr608
      @1ntrcnnctr608 11 місяців тому +1

      @@saxeisrap7846n there one is salvaged from being lost in translation yet once again 🤩

    • @LunnaJannah
      @LunnaJannah 10 місяців тому

      @@saxeisrap7846beautifully put ❤

  • @timnizle1
    @timnizle1 11 місяців тому +1

    Uh oh apparently there is proof im an unreasonable man😅
    🙏🙏🙏

  • @connorcreegan
    @connorcreegan 10 місяців тому

    based.