These Keenserts were all over the 13ton aluminum M113A2s we used, I always wondered how those things were installed. I may have stripped one out some time during my 10yrs service.
Dude you made that look so easy. Idk what I’m doing wrong but my inserts won’t go in 😅 is it because I used a forming tap instead of a cut tap? Thanks man I’m stumped.
@jessevargas3289 that may work, the issue is its hard to control the minor diameter with a forming tap, you have to go back in a drill it correctly to spec. Remember, you have to drill the minor oversize (more than you normally would for a standard size)
@@wademoore2139 ok thanks. A 5/8-11 bolt fits very well but it looks like the insert would indeed need a bigger drilled hole for the minor diameter to fit. Thanks I'll go up a size. I used the recommended size of 37/64
Yes, they come in handy with aluminum plates, that need a higher thread strength. They wont gall easily like the aluminum threads will after extended use
What about for thin wall steel? I need something that would be able to grab onto the subframe of my car, which is much thinner than I'd like to put threads into.
@@MooreCNC thanks for the input. I ended up finding out about rivet but inserts which is essentially the same thing except they crush into place rather than weld.
Yes, the best tip for remembering them is to use them as much as possible. My father taught me to print out your G-Code when you have time, and go through it line by line to practice-- look up the codes you do not recognize in the manual for your machine. It is similar to learning a different language. A lot of G-codes are standard, for different controls. G41 is cutter comp left, on Hurco, Fanuc, Okuma, etc. but where G54 on a Hurco / Haas is work offset, it is G15 on an okuma.. But my brain knows that , because I use both controls every day and read through my G-Codes / M-Codes
@@MooreCNC oh ok thank you very much. It's my second year in my high school machining class (I'm a senior) and I'm going to college for machining also and we are starting to use our haas cnc mills/lathes so I appreciate this. Thank you.
Good way to repair stripped out threads. I just finished installing two of these in a very old transmission housing. Cast aluminum transmission case that would be thousands of dollars to replace, if it could be found at all. The 5/16 - 18 bolts had gotten overtightened, then someone installed helicoil inserts. The helicoils failed and caused a persistent oil leak. After I used the keyserts, I was able to apply full torque to the bolts. The nightmare is over.
That surface finish, oh baby.
These Keenserts were all over the 13ton aluminum M113A2s we used, I always wondered how those things were installed. I may have stripped one out some time during my 10yrs service.
Dude you made that look so easy. Idk what I’m doing wrong but my inserts won’t go in 😅 is it because I used a forming tap instead of a cut tap? Thanks man I’m stumped.
@jessevargas3289 that may work, the issue is its hard to control the minor diameter with a forming tap, you have to go back in a drill it correctly to spec. Remember, you have to drill the minor oversize (more than you normally would for a standard size)
@@wademoore2139 ok thanks. A 5/8-11 bolt fits very well but it looks like the insert would indeed need a bigger drilled hole for the minor diameter to fit. Thanks I'll go up a size. I used the recommended size of 37/64
@@jessevargas3289yes the minor has to be bigger or you will have interference, measure the inserts minor with calipers and you will see what I mean
What about Torque values when you Install a Screw ? Like 10/32 bolts only 1,5 NM like in table or More because selflocking inserts ?
What's the highest psi it can withstand
Can you install these inserts as deep as you want? Or does the install tool keep it from going too deep?
They stop at the key's on the insert.
What is the tool you use to screw them in?
Does installing mar the top surface finish at all despite the install tool initially only hitting the prongs ?
Yes, if you are not careful, it will mar. Make sure to make a big enough chamfer for the insert tool only to come into contact with the insert
Can you stack Keenserts?
Thanks for showing, but what's the purpose of inserts in this application?
Are there any benefits to just regular taped/threaded holes?
Yes, they come in handy with aluminum plates, that need a higher thread strength. They wont gall easily like the aluminum threads will after extended use
Somehow missed it's aluminium, makes a lot more sense now. Thanks.
What about for thin wall steel? I need something that would be able to grab onto the subframe of my car, which is much thinner than I'd like to put threads into.
My humble opinion would be to weld in a nut or some type of threaded bushing. These really only work for solid material.
@@MooreCNC thanks for the input. I ended up finding out about rivet but inserts which is essentially the same thing except they crush into place rather than weld.
@@nickhowell168 Rivnuts
Got any tips on remembering G and M codes?
Yes, the best tip for remembering them is to use them as much as possible. My father taught me to print out your G-Code when you have time, and go through it line by line to practice-- look up the codes you do not recognize in the manual for your machine. It is similar to learning a different language. A lot of G-codes are standard, for different controls. G41 is cutter comp left, on Hurco, Fanuc, Okuma, etc. but where G54 on a Hurco / Haas is work offset, it is G15 on an okuma.. But my brain knows that , because I use both controls every day and read through my G-Codes / M-Codes
@@MooreCNC oh ok thank you very much. It's my second year in my high school machining class (I'm a senior) and I'm going to college for machining also and we are starting to use our haas cnc mills/lathes so I appreciate this. Thank you.
What is the use of putting these inserts?
Good way to repair stripped out threads. I just finished installing two of these in a very old transmission housing. Cast aluminum transmission case that would be thousands of dollars to replace, if it could be found at all. The 5/16 - 18 bolts had gotten overtightened, then someone installed helicoil inserts. The helicoils failed and caused a persistent oil leak. After I used the keyserts, I was able to apply full torque to the bolts. The nightmare is over.
more on conversational side
Is that good or bad? I dont know how to stop talking lol
@@MooreCNC very good