The Borg vs The Dalek | Star Trek vs Doctor Who

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  • In this video, we will be reviewing and analyzing what would happen if the Borg went to war against the Daleks. Who would win? To find out who would win, we will be reviewing both factions technology, strategy, and abilities.
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  • @Concreteowl
    @Concreteowl 25 днів тому +75

    The Borg assimilate a Dalek. The Borg all kill themselves for not being Daleks.

    • @choalithikanthe2422
      @choalithikanthe2422 25 днів тому +17

      I doubt the Borg could manage to assimilate a Dalek, between the energy shields, the charged dalekanium armor, the active immune system of the casing, and then the geneticly engineered biomass within. But if they did... this. Totally this. A Dalek mind in the collective would be like a existential threat to the entire species. If the whole "Evil Machines Beyond the Rim!" message of the Zhat Vash was enough to sever a Borg Cube, then a Dalek's pure xenophobia would be like gulping down a glass of pure arsenic for the Collective.

    • @darthwiizius
      @darthwiizius 24 дні тому +5

      @@choalithikanthe2422
      More likely the Daleks, a single Dalek even, would take control of Borg systems. Every Dalek is a genius even without their tech. They'd go quite far if they weren't all genocidal maniacs.

    • @Concreteowl
      @Concreteowl 23 дні тому +4

      @@choalithikanthe2422 a Dalek might allow itself to be assimilated just so it could kill all Borg.

    • @nodak81
      @nodak81 23 дні тому +6

      @@darthwiizius Don't forget that the Daleks also had infectious nanite technology just like the Borg. Imagine a ship full of Borg drones suddenly sprouting Dalek eyestalks from their foreheads.

  • @kennethmelnychuk9737
    @kennethmelnychuk9737 27 днів тому +87

    “This is not war, this is pest control”

    • @kevinwestrom4775
      @kevinwestrom4775 26 днів тому +8

      The Daleks vs the Cybermen,.. such a great bit of smack-talk by the Dalek against the Cybermen army.

    • @DNulrammah
      @DNulrammah 26 днів тому +6

      "THIS IS NOT WAR, THIS IS CYBER-BULLYING!" "The Bitch Fight of Canary Wharf" - (Parody). LOL!

    • @YoLo-bb2vc
      @YoLo-bb2vc 24 дні тому

      @@DNulrammah lol man thaat never gets old two of dr who's greatest karens going at each other lol

    • @JeffreyTappan-bb8rr
      @JeffreyTappan-bb8rr 24 дні тому +1

      Isn't that what the Cybermen said to the Daleks?

    • @YoLo-bb2vc
      @YoLo-bb2vc 24 дні тому

      @@JeffreyTappan-bb8rr no it was the other way round XD

  • @kingfairytale4306
    @kingfairytale4306 23 дні тому +23

    Every time this guy says Dalek, I have an annurism.

  • @s.patrickmarino7289
    @s.patrickmarino7289 25 днів тому +25

    Each and every Dalek comes with a self destruct device. If the Borg started to assimilate one, it would go boom.

  • @haamidsharif4974
    @haamidsharif4974 27 днів тому +44

    My money is on the Daley, they are a Universe wide power, whereas the Borg are a Galactic delta quadrant power.

    • @shishoka
      @shishoka 24 дні тому

      Nah, the Doctor shows up to do wobbly-wobbly, timey-wimey stuff and gets assimilated giving the Borg the win. I would justify it with he's "half-human on hispther's side" but since the Cybermen started upgrading him in a similar manner to Borg assimilation the Borg would have little trouble.

    •  24 дні тому +1

      The Borg reproduce as quickly as they conquer, though, while the Daleks are notoriously picky.
      But a Dalek is a microcosm of the entire race, while an individual Borg is practically disabled.
      And, as has been pointed out, assimiliating a Dalek's brain would be like swallowing poison.

    • @shauntempley9757
      @shauntempley9757 23 дні тому

      Yes. A poison of pure hatred dialled past even Palpatine.

    • @chimera9818
      @chimera9818 18 днів тому

      @@shishokathe borg equivalent of doctor who when they became galactic powers tried to assimilate him and they failed so the borg has no chance

    • @chimera9818
      @chimera9818 18 днів тому

      But are far stronger

  • @Nick-pu3of
    @Nick-pu3of 26 днів тому +31

    Dude, the Daleks conquer whole galaxies while the Borg hold a tiny fraction of one galaxy. The Daleks build weapons which unravel matter. The scale mismatch is just so extreme it's laughable. The fight will last approximately five seconds and end in total Dalek victory.
    You can't do this sort of comparison, Doctor Who is on such a larger scale than Star Trek.

  • @attila535
    @attila535 27 днів тому +19

    If all else fails, the daleks can still rely on Davros' reality bomb.

    • @The_Blue_Otaku
      @The_Blue_Otaku 24 дні тому +4

      The Daleks could just recreate and use the time destructor from the Daleks Master Plan

  • @kevinwestrom4775
    @kevinwestrom4775 26 днів тому +28

    The Borg do have time travel of their own, as they did in the Star Trek First Contact movie.

    • @YoLo-bb2vc
      @YoLo-bb2vc 24 дні тому +4

      but they dont do it much it is suggested that the borg assimilated a krenim ship that one time and from that they learnt about temporal technology and thus the borg now understsnd how to time travel.......... man the krenim if this is correct have alot to answer for!

    • @sethjulien1271
      @sethjulien1271 12 днів тому

      The Daleks have time travel tech too you know.
      OMG... I just realised, another time war!!!

  • @OneCatholicSpeaks
    @OneCatholicSpeaks 24 дні тому +6

    One tactic I could see is the Borg doing a ramming maneuver into a major Dalek battle cruiser. Ramming the Dalek craft into sun or burn up in a planet’s atmosphere. The Borg would gamble on the ability to rebuild forces quicker than the Daleks could.

  • @michaelhughes7718
    @michaelhughes7718 24 дні тому +8

    This is extra amusing because the idea of the Borg was taken from Cybermen. And as any Whovian knows, there is one thing Cybermen are better at than the Daleks, dying.

    • @DoctorMysterio15
      @DoctorMysterio15 20 днів тому

      Classic era Cybermen might not agree. RTD downgraded them significantly and Moffat gave them super powers so the power scale is a nut case.

    • @michaelhughes7718
      @michaelhughes7718 20 днів тому

      @DoctorMysterio15 Mondassian Cybermen are still assimilated humans, just a lot less metal than new ones, and kind of goofy looking. Kind of closer to the Borg than Lumic Cybermen to be honest. I found it amusing that Lumic and Davros were both in power wheelchairs.

  • @rosswieloch1115
    @rosswieloch1115 24 дні тому +8

    If the Daleks started losing the war I could easily see them seeking out the Doctor for help. One of these "Our survival is your survival" scenarios.

    • @malhenning1608
      @malhenning1608 16 днів тому +1

      then the Borg seeks out Q. The Dr and Q form an alliance and its game over?

  • @mattwho81
    @mattwho81 24 дні тому +19

    Borg are basically Cybermen, and we’ve seen four Daleks wipe out billions of Cybermen.

    • @paulashe61
      @paulashe61 21 день тому +1

      Comic Borg Cyberman

    • @saulcross9690
      @saulcross9690 19 днів тому +1

      Not exactly, the Borg are more like bionic Wirrn seeing as they assimilate other species absorbing their memories and culture. The Daleks would still annihilate them in no time…

    • @mikewhitaker2880
      @mikewhitaker2880 18 днів тому

      the Borg are no where close to being like Cybermen... cCbermen have NO hive mind, and therefore no way to quickly assess and assimilate various situations, they also lack personal shields against energy based weapons.... the Borg most definitely would cause some major issues for Daleks, even if eventually Daleks won out against the Borg...

    • @saulcross9690
      @saulcross9690 18 днів тому

      @@mikewhitaker2880 The Borg wouldn’t last ten minutes against the Daleks who have more powerful weapon art, larger numbers, more advanced sensors, more computing power and absolutely no need to keep anything they consider inferior or a threat alive. Keep in mind the fact that the Daleks almost wiped out the Time Lords in a time war that lay waste to entire star systems…

    • @mikewhitaker2880
      @mikewhitaker2880 18 днів тому

      @@saulcross9690 the Borg would last a LOT longer than Cybermen... hell, new Who Cybermen are a joke, at least the Tom Baker to Sylvester McCoy cybers had some umph, and looked way better... and they would only stand for 10 seconds vs even the Borg...

  • @MTB.OG_95
    @MTB.OG_95 27 днів тому +15

    Such a war would lay waste to the entire galaxy. Leaving nothing alive, except the remains of the victor.

  • @bellakaldera3305
    @bellakaldera3305 27 днів тому +21

    It always occurs to me that simple projectile weapons should defeat the Borg, if you shoot them before they get near you. All the weapons that the Borg "adapt" to seem to be energy based beam weapons, but they don't seem to have anything that would stop a .45 slug from a 1911A1.
    Show me Kzinti vs. the Borg.

    • @justinhammer3196
      @justinhammer3196 26 днів тому +7

      Replicator weakness identified.

    • @molybdaen11
      @molybdaen11 25 днів тому +3

      Because most of they foes use energy weapons.
      But jes, using different projectiles may work - for a while.

    • @choalithikanthe2422
      @choalithikanthe2422 25 днів тому +9

      There was a 3rd Doctor episode where the Daleks crashed onto a planet that suppressed most technology, including their gunsticks. Within hours, every Dalek was shooting bullets on full auto. Bet the Borg would love a taste of that.
      Mind you, these were primitive Daleks; pre-Time War, fighting a war with Humanity across only four galaxies.

    • @iami3rian394
      @iami3rian394 24 дні тому +5

      My friend, the NX-01 had a navigational deflector, you think the Borg wouldn't adapt to slug throwers by like, the second shot?
      No way that takes down more than a dozen drones before they've adapted.

    • @choalithikanthe2422
      @choalithikanthe2422 24 дні тому +5

      @@iami3rian394
      Like they did in First Contact? Or Voyager? Or Picard?
      They seem to have trouble adapting to being hit by things. A sharpened piece of metal still works decades later.

  • @alexcamacho1842
    @alexcamacho1842 27 днів тому +15

    Cylons vs Terminators?

    • @molybdaen11
      @molybdaen11 25 днів тому +1

      T-800: „Get down here!”
      Cylons: „LOL - nope.”

    • @glubone
      @glubone 13 днів тому +1

      Cylon vs Borg

  • @RA10H56
    @RA10H56 27 днів тому +13

    I had a few dalek toys in the 1980's when I was a child and they were one of the Cobra Commanders numerous ultimate weapons. Needless to say, they were dispatched by satchel charges placed in strategic spots by snake eyes

  • @davidboose8426
    @davidboose8426 26 днів тому +9

    The Borg can time travel also, there's a whole Star Trek movie based around this.

    • @choalithikanthe2422
      @choalithikanthe2422 25 днів тому +5

      Borg have limited time travel, that seems to require a lot of energy and special conditions. They seem to refuse to use it in any way that the Enterprise isn't immediately on-hand to prevent. At no time have they ever just backed up the trolley and turned their canon defeats into victories.
      That's what the entire Time War was, Daleks and Timelords re-writing history with buckets o Uno Reversal Cards. They got so randy with the time-dickery that they had to start subjecting their individual drones to the Time Vortex to make them achronal... and thus immune to changes in the timeline. Some Daleks have time travel built into their individual armored casings, and absolutely every Dalek starship is both a time machine and a planet buster.
      I'm sorry, but saying the Borg can "time travel also" is like saying that because the Wright Brothers have flown, they are ready to take on a fleet of Harrier Jump Jets.

  • @nodak81
    @nodak81 23 дні тому +6

    Would be cool to see Davros trade barbs with the Borg Queen.

  • @shanenolan5625
    @shanenolan5625 27 днів тому +13

    They would hate each other

    • @molybdaen11
      @molybdaen11 25 днів тому

      But are the borg capable of hate 🤔?

    • @GrandmasterDevo
      @GrandmasterDevo 25 днів тому

      @@molybdaen11 The Queen certainly is. And the Queen IS the Borg.

    • @liborohanka5010
      @liborohanka5010 22 дні тому +2

      Yeah, they are ideological opposites. One about purity and other about mixing and combining.

  • @morgangallowglass8668
    @morgangallowglass8668 25 днів тому +6

    1,000 Quatloos on the Daleks to win! Just like a pizza, DALEKS ARE SUPREME!

  • @christophersnyder1532
    @christophersnyder1532 26 днів тому +9

    I have IDW's Doctor Who/Star Trek crossover, where the original/Next generation crew, sparred with the Cybermen.
    But, one of the best crossovers was, when Luke Skywalker, sparred with Jean-Luc Picard, in those Skip The Dishes ads.
    Now the Ood, vs the Pakleds.
    Take care, and all the best.

  • @thesteveruss
    @thesteveruss 27 днів тому +8

    You should make that Cyberman vs Terminators vs Dalek vs Borg.

    • @molybdaen11
      @molybdaen11 25 днів тому

      I fear even base line cyberman would be way better organized then skynet ever was.

    • @theiathegondia7349
      @theiathegondia7349 25 днів тому

      Vs sg1 replicators

  • @Peaceforall20111
    @Peaceforall20111 27 днів тому +9

    I guess it’s gonna all come down to you if the borg can assimilate a Dalic.
    If they can, they know all the information and they’ll know everything so I would really need to know. Can they assimilate daliks before I can really answer this

    • @kellyevans3254
      @kellyevans3254 27 днів тому +1

      I have no reason to believe that the dialaks can resist the Borg nanoprobes.

    • @thecommenter9678
      @thecommenter9678 26 днів тому +2

      @@kellyevans3254 Agreed, nothing suggests they could, so we must assume they CAN.

    • @molybdaen11
      @molybdaen11 25 днів тому

      We know however that the biologic parts of a darlek are very resilient and have a strong will.

    • @Peaceforall20111
      @Peaceforall20111 25 днів тому +2

      @@molybdaen11 you realy think that fact is so strong it over powers that the borg have assimilated thousands of different species?
      We may have heard that about the daliks but I rely on centurriee of experience assimilating everything over a simple statement never tested in a way it would be by the borg

    • @somthingbrutal
      @somthingbrutal 25 днів тому +1

      the daleks also have nano tech and have used it to assimilate members of other species. so probably have a defence against a similar attack

  • @pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
    @pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 25 днів тому +4

    The borg would likely abort attempts at assimilation after capturing 1 dalek, from then on the borg would try to destroy the daleks through a series of tactical withdrawls and punitive strikes...ultimately, the daleks would use Davros's knowledge to create a bioweapon/virus to destroy the borg collective, similar to that boy in Star Trek Voyager. the daleks have been around for thousands of years, and have unfathomably more resources over the entire universe to work with, whereas the borg only have a couple quadrants in 1 galaxy and a few hundred years at their disposal, in the event of a time war between the 2 forces.
    winner: the daleks.

    • @PlasmaMongoose
      @PlasmaMongoose 25 днів тому +1

      Also if the Darlek they captured doesn't believe it will be able to escape, it will self distract.

    • @iami3rian394
      @iami3rian394 24 дні тому +2

      Borg have been around for a few thousand my man. Just saying.

    • @pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
      @pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 24 дні тому

      @@iami3rian394 well i suppose, i never watched anything that explained the origin of the borg, they had been around since before Captain Archer's time... but still, I would think the daleks have been around for several thousand more anyhow.

    • @iami3rian394
      @iami3rian394 24 дні тому

      @@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 almost certainly. The Borg probably aren't much older than say, the Roman empire.

  • @lightbearer313
    @lightbearer313 25 днів тому +7

    In Doctor Who the species can be roughly put in three levels - high (Daleks and Time Lords are here), middle (Sontarans and Cybermen are here), and low. The cybermen and Sontarans are above Borg. Borg are in the low level in Doctor Who.

  • @NerdWorldEmpire
    @NerdWorldEmpire 27 днів тому +5

    Good fight, my money would still be on the Borg but I'm bias 😁

  • @Clone683
    @Clone683 26 днів тому +8

    This would be over very quick as soon as the Borg assimilated a Dalek

    • @molybdaen11
      @molybdaen11 25 днів тому +5

      A borg darlek would be the end to the collective 😅.

    • @darthwiizius
      @darthwiizius 24 дні тому +4

      @@molybdaen11
      Yeah, the Dalek bit would make it even more compelled to exterminate every Borg, including itself. Though I doubt the Borg could, every Dalek is a genius that can carry out billions of calculations a second, it'd be like delivering Killer Kathy's, AKA Genocidal Janeway's pathogen all over again. I mean if one, albeit mass-murdering extinction levelling homicidal maniac, Starfleet admiral can lay waste to your entire species then ya gonna be in trouble with a Dalek.

    • @molybdaen11
      @molybdaen11 23 дні тому +3

      @@darthwiizius Janeway is for the borg what the doctor is for the darleks.
      🤣

    • @dennisduncan7561
      @dennisduncan7561 17 днів тому +2

      The Borg would have a nigh impossible time getting through Daleck technology and even if they assimilated a Daleck it's mind would be like a virus to the Borg.

  • @DianneElliott-rh7gw
    @DianneElliott-rh7gw 25 днів тому +2

    The Daleks created a race called the Robomen back in the 1960s which were reanimated humans, under Dalek control. Plus the Daleks did take on the Time Lords themselves, which ended in the near extinction of both species. A Borg and Dalek galactic war would be something worse. The Daleks, would assimulate the Borg and control them./

  • @mikethoroughgood16
    @mikethoroughgood16 26 днів тому +3

    They did cybermen vs Borg I think the cybermen would have won if the doctor and the Enterprise-D had not intervened but this case it would be bad enough en if the Daleks had used time travel however beta canon stated the Borg had assimilated the El-Aurians who can as Guinian has proved they can detect timeline changes so they might be able to detect the Daleks attempting to change time

  • @thego-o-dstuff1036
    @thego-o-dstuff1036 25 днів тому +2

    The Toclafane v the Megara.
    Just to clarify the Megara appeared in the story "Stones of Blood" with the fourth Doctor.
    And in that story the Megara blew up a whole galaxy because someone was in contempt of court.
    Go the justice machines.

  • @nicksmith5374
    @nicksmith5374 27 днів тому +4

    I have never seen a borg fire a hand held weapon. Only the borg that lore experimented on did so. Am I wrong?

    • @DojhromTRW
      @DojhromTRW 26 днів тому +1

      Elite Force had drones that adapted to prolonged warfare and fired bolts of plasma.

  • @bryguy9512
    @bryguy9512 23 дні тому

    Good video, lots to consider. Remember though, the Borg don't need to capture a live or active Dalek, they'll try and eventually will get some but for a good start on acquiring Dalek tech they only need to gather parts and pieces of their wreckage and they've gained a ton of new tech. They'll eventually gain access to a wounded Dalek as well, and drain its mind of knowledge, not only Dalek tech but all of Dalek operations, tactics, culture, military structure, tech wouldn't be the only knowledge gained. Huge nasty space and time spanning galactic battles indeed though.

  • @jhoncater227
    @jhoncater227 25 днів тому +2

    The borg vs the cybermen next please

    • @niymeh342
      @niymeh342 21 день тому

      There's a comic about that: Assimilation2 by IDW!

  • @shishoka
    @shishoka 24 дні тому +1

    Ah yes... the Deadliest Character debate.

  • @niyanlan8928
    @niyanlan8928 26 днів тому +3

    The Borg would win as every time they looked like losing Trekkies would just say ‘yeah, but they just adapted to that’ and so that plus plot armour would mean they always win.

    • @0SirHappy0
      @0SirHappy0 24 дні тому +1

      Basically that's true too. They can adapt to the energy weapons. e.g. their shield systems. To do this, adjust your weapons so that they do enough damage. Then the beaming. They could beam any Dalek out of their device and assimilate them, and then know what the Dalek knows, including their vulnerabilities. Ultimately the Daleks would lose. But the Borg would certainly have to accept losses. ^^

    • @dennisduncan7561
      @dennisduncan7561 17 днів тому

      ​​@@0SirHappy0Sorry but you severly underestimate the Daleks. They're geniuses and could come up with billions of new weapon frequencies before the Borg could adapt. Plus the Daleks have shields too(you really think they wouldn't be able to block Borg trsnsporters?) and thier Dalekanium armor is formidable.

  • @user-jm2ou5mm4u
    @user-jm2ou5mm4u 21 день тому

    Some of us have to admit being old enough to remember the earliest days of Dr Who when the Daleks had a real mechanical foe - the Mechonoids from the planet Mechanus. A story called "The Chase" from c.1965 features both species in conflict with each other as well as the good Dr (William Hartnell at this time) and his companions. Unfortunately I haven't seen the story since it first aired on terrestrial TV nearly 60 years ago so I don't remember the outcome of the battle but I believe the story is still in the archives (6 episodes) so can hopefully be watched.

  • @danielwilliamson6180
    @danielwilliamson6180 25 днів тому +1

    The Daleks could easily the Borg with their death rays.

  • @Gothic7876
    @Gothic7876 25 днів тому +1

    Daleks carry this easily. Their standard weapons could easily overpower the drone shields.

  • @SirMCraftalot
    @SirMCraftalot 24 дні тому +3

    Extermination is Futile.

  • @Ahena994
    @Ahena994 18 днів тому

    "The borg are only superior in one regard, you are better at dieing"

  • @apricebcd
    @apricebcd 24 дні тому

    I think "Destiny of the Daleks" gives a good idea of what might happen

  • @neothedog5769
    @neothedog5769 22 дні тому

    I remember in doctor who when the cyber men proposed a team up with 3 darlecs when they said no the cyber man said but we are many you are just 3 to which the darlic replied "1 darlic would be sufficient to wipe out the whole of the cyber men race "

  • @VonRetex
    @VonRetex 24 дні тому +2

    Daleks win and it isn't close.
    The scale of threat both post is vastly different

  • @kennethmelnychuk9737
    @kennethmelnychuk9737 26 днів тому +3

    Your video was doing so well until you mentioned time travel.
    By continuing with that thread, the galena could have gone back in time and eradicate the time lords thus preventing the Great War.
    Or Doctor #4 could have changed his mind and eradicate Davros and the Genesis of the Daleks 🤔😀
    So using a time travel scenario is just so complicated and lame

  • @gijoel
    @gijoel 24 дні тому

    The Dalek. They don't send just one ship to conquer a civilization. They send all of their ships to conquer a civilization.

  • @trevormillar1576
    @trevormillar1576 24 дні тому

    The writers at Trek created the Borg when they learned that Patrick Stewart's first role at the Beeb was as a Dalek operator!

  • @DNulrammah
    @DNulrammah 26 днів тому +1

    If the Borg start acting up, The Federation ought to send the Jem'Hadar after them. That would be a hell of a fight.

    • @paulsmart4672
      @paulsmart4672 24 дні тому

      At some point you're feeding the borg a supply of drones with personal cloaking devices.
      Not a huge problem at first because of Ketracel White... but sooner or later the Borg start installing some kind of Ketracel White generator in all the Jem'Hadar drones.

  • @SingularityZ3ro1
    @SingularityZ3ro1 25 днів тому

    Borg have time travel, too. One example is the travel back into earth's history to assimilate earth, and to prevent the first warp flight to happen, so there would be no Federation. Second thing to keep in mind. The Q Collective fears the Borg and has the rule not to provoke them. I think that says enough ;-) - That said, from the introduction of a queen to go from collective to a single entity to lead them, everything went a bit down hill - but I guess a collective was too abstract for the people ;-)
    Commonality: Both are supposed to be super advanced, but look and move mostly less advanced as your average grandpa :-D

  • @chrishoughton2500
    @chrishoughton2500 26 днів тому +5

    Dalek victory !!!

  • @adambrown3918
    @adambrown3918 25 днів тому +2

    IDW Comics. Star Trek: The Next Generation/ Dr. Who cross-over series. 2012

  • @kevin9218
    @kevin9218 24 дні тому +1

    I think the daleks would win this one. The Borg do possess some time travel technology but the daleks have a far greater mastery of it.

  • @kellyjeaularson5786
    @kellyjeaularson5786 24 дні тому

    Dalek's once the learn about the Borg turning their own against them, would use time travel. They'd go back before the Borg could be a threat to them and exterminate them at that point. IMHO

  • @GrandmasterDevo
    @GrandmasterDevo 25 днів тому

    The Borg wouldn't be interested in Dalek biology as they're just shriveled blobs that are useless without their mech shells. Given that the Borg all seem to be humanoid, I don't see them putting in the effort to build new alcoves designed to house Dalek shells. They would absolutely love Dalek tech, though. Adapting that technology for themselves would be a tremendous boon to the collective.

  • @tetraquark2402
    @tetraquark2402 17 днів тому +1

    If the Borg seek perfection why do they still look like a dogs breakfast.

  • @worldtravellerkamil2942
    @worldtravellerkamil2942 27 днів тому +2

    Can you make s video of Borg against Kailon
    And Borg against Andromeda

  • @ManicPandaz
    @ManicPandaz 18 днів тому

    “Resisting extermination is futile” a Borg Dalek probably 🤷‍♂️

  • @ToxikDeth
    @ToxikDeth 24 дні тому

    Daleks during the timewar could delete entire timelines

  • @toyloliSpare
    @toyloliSpare 16 днів тому

    Its strange seeing these two paired up. Borg are more often compared to Cybermen as both groups spread by assimilation of other species. Daleks on the other hand are a clone race bred in factories and mass manufactured. There will always be more daleks. Borg and Cybermen run out when there are no more hosts...

  • @s.patrickmarino7289
    @s.patrickmarino7289 25 днів тому

    The Borg can time travel too.

  • @Ronald006
    @Ronald006 27 днів тому +11

    One thing you forgot is that the Borg only need to assilimate one Dalek to learn their tactics and the outside alien/human races and governments who'd want to keep the war going in perpetuity, hoping they'd destroy each other like how Janeway helped the borg defeat 8474 I'm sure the time lords would also assist the Borg in some way as well. What the old says, the devil you know vs the one who doesn't. And if I'm not mistaken, the Borg, according to Q, is the ultimate user. They'd wear the Dalek down and adapt to their weapons. We've seen the collective use of time travel to attempt to change history, and the Borg Queens are also tricky and deceptive beings. Resistance is Futile. lol

    • @kennethmelnychuk9737
      @kennethmelnychuk9737 26 днів тому +4

      @@Ronald006: assuming
      that the Borg could penetrate the Daleks energy shield and their armour.

    • @choalithikanthe2422
      @choalithikanthe2422 25 днів тому

      @@kennethmelnychuk9737 Or that the Borg Nanoprobes won't be annihilated by the Daleks' cybernetic immune system - a literal network of tiny disintegration drones patrolling the inside of its casing. Before it even reaches any biological matter.

    • @jameshead9119
      @jameshead9119 24 дні тому

      @@kennethmelnychuk9737 if I recall the Daley’s actually came a borg type race back in the seventies ( they were androids that ended in a stalemate where both fleets were jockeying to attack the other due to the first to attack should lose the battle the solve this dilemma the Daleks returned to skyro in search of their creator to solve their dilemma for them where they meet Tom Bakers doctor )

    • @kennethmelnychuk9737
      @kennethmelnychuk9737 24 дні тому

      @@jameshead9119: I believe that the Daleks were not cyborgs but rather encased themselves in an armoured “suit”.
      Remember when one Dalek (Sec?) merged with a human?

    • @jameshead9119
      @jameshead9119 24 дні тому

      @@kennethmelnychuk9737 their back story has changed over the years in the first time we saw them their armoured shell was was ment to protect them from the high radiation levels after an atomic war that was only partially successful in that when they tried to use the Thrauls anti-radiation meds’ they found they had adapted to the high levels that they would die with out it to the point they tried to increase the planets levels by detonating a dirty bomb to raise the planets levels to the point the the meds no longer protected the Thrauls so they would die off then in the later storyline where they invaded Earth they were given a fanny pack so they could live and move out side the Dalek city that they had been trapped in the first story it was much later that their story changed to being bio-mechanical weapons created by Davros

  • @davidwebb4451
    @davidwebb4451 25 днів тому

    The Doctor Who universe already contains the equivalent of the Borg - Cybermen.
    The two forces generally seem to avoid conflict with each other presumably seeing each other as too powerful and therefore preferring to postpone such a conflict for a future date after they have dealt with other less powerful species (or in the Dalek's case destroy them along with all other non-Dalek life via some other grand scheme rather than fighting - eg the Reality bomb in the New Who fourth series finale "Journey's End").
    The one exception was in the New Who series 2 finale "Doomsday". when Cybermen from a parallel universe fight Daleks at Canary Wharf. The Doctor saves the day by sucking both forces into the void between universes so we don't discover whether the Daleks or Cybermen would have won.

    • @niymeh342
      @niymeh342 21 день тому

      Considering the moment the Daleks refuse an alliance two Cybermen attack one of the Daleks and it does nothing to it, and the Dalek immediately one-shots both Cybermen, I think that gives us the answer to which side would win. The Cybermen are powerful (more so than the Borg), but the Daleks are on the level of the Time Lords - they just don't compare.

  • @tonyleyden2066
    @tonyleyden2066 25 днів тому

    One of the interest is the cybermen have challenge the borg in the comics but i dont know what the outcome was

  • @MadHax-wt5tl
    @MadHax-wt5tl 24 дні тому

    Dalak time travel isn't as precise as Gallerfrayn, however the Dakeks are extremely cautious about how they use it.
    The Borg however, seem to have limited time travel capabilities, but seem prepared to use it haphazardly.
    And though Dalek tech would be extremely desirable to the Borg, I cannot help but think the Borg would be apprehensive to assimilate the Karled mutant into their collective. They are horribly toxic and radioactive and their mutation is very specific to their species.

  • @gordonhardwick9552
    @gordonhardwick9552 24 дні тому

    Borgs have a defense against impure biologic components in there shells

  • @tyrrellr.parker3272
    @tyrrellr.parker3272 14 днів тому

    I believe the Borg, have better weapons and one reason they are less likely to use time travel as a weapon is to their better understanding of time travel and are weary of the unforeseen consequences of using it.

  • @zomfragger
    @zomfragger 24 дні тому

    We found out in season 2 of Picard that the Borg possess the abilty to monitor timeline changes and multiple time lines which to my knowledge the darleks do not. The borg also are able to communicate accross time thru temporal transceivers inplants as seen in voyager.
    To me the most likely outcome would be a stalemate since the borg would become aware of any timeline changes by the Darleks and adapted accordingly. The Darleks would eventually see they can not just wipe the borg away with time travel and instead adapt to a slower course of overwhelming numbers and fire power.
    Also just about forgot. It's hinted that the borg got time travel technology from the Doctor when the borg and cybermen formed an alliance which if not for the intervention of the doctor and the enterprise d crew would have resulted in both the destruction of the borg and all organic life.

    • @shauntempley9757
      @shauntempley9757 22 години тому

      The Daleks do monitor time. They have fleets of ships that patrol the time vortex, no different than Daniels does for this very purpose, and those ships have been around since Classic Who.

  • @richpontone1
    @richpontone1 23 дні тому

    How about Species 8472?
    Why are they not getting any love, here?
    They may live in “Fluidic space”, but the Borg knows where they live and the reverse is true too with the Dalecks getting the leftovers.

  • @ricgillingham8056
    @ricgillingham8056 26 днів тому +1

    A Darlick is a genius about to possess a million million calculations per second 😊

    • @stevedickson5853
      @stevedickson5853 25 днів тому

      Dalek

    • @GreatestCornholio
      @GreatestCornholio 24 дні тому

      Borg are a singular hive mind made up from trillions of connected minds. So I’m guessing they are pretty smart too!

  • @silverknight1966
    @silverknight1966 18 днів тому

    Stalemate is most likely, reference the Daleks vs the Movellans

  • @larrytalbot3824
    @larrytalbot3824 21 день тому

    Someone told me the Daleks were once defeated by their own _shit?_
    Idk if that was a joke or not but, that might be something the Borg want to look into, not literally of course.

  • @jamesevans886
    @jamesevans886 25 днів тому

    Any or all Daleks would not allow perversion of the supreme being or except that the Borg collective is superior. Any attempt to adapt a Dalek would result in the Dalek self-destruction. The Cybermen vs. Borg is far more interesting, with both being highly adaptive and instant adaptation. A cybermat infestation of a Borg Cube would be very interesting.

  • @TheBlindDyslexic
    @TheBlindDyslexic 25 днів тому

    Here''er three more.
    Klingons & Sontarns
    Rutans & Changelings
    Gorn & Wirrn

  • @gholt39934
    @gholt39934 23 дні тому

    The Borg? The Dalek would slaughter them.

  • @KeriDeYoundercotte
    @KeriDeYoundercotte 22 дні тому

    Would draw your attention to what was shown in First Contact, is Personal Energy Shields are useless against fast firing projectile weapons like a Thomason Sub Machine Gun. The Daleks redesigned their energy based weapons to a Projectile based weaponary in Pertwee Era story Death to The Daleks when a planet wide Energy Damping Field made their energy based weapons useless

  • @R_SENAL
    @R_SENAL 24 дні тому +1

    Ok, 0:21 in and you've already pronounced Dalek as DaHlek and I'm already worried you've never actually watched the show...
    Time mastery means the Daleks would wipe the floor with the Borg. A more deadlocked battle would be Cybermen Vs Borg. Watch episode Nightmare in Silver to see how even then, the WHOniverse villain would probably still smote the Trek one.

  • @danielharris5044
    @danielharris5044 24 дні тому

    Whoever wins, we lose

  • @glubone
    @glubone 13 днів тому +1

    How about Borg vs Cybermen?

    • @UtopianBroadcast1
      @UtopianBroadcast1  8 днів тому +1

      Planning to release that video next month. 😀

    • @glubone
      @glubone 8 днів тому

      @@UtopianBroadcast1 thanks

  • @timothymorgan1175
    @timothymorgan1175 22 дні тому

    The real war would be between the Borg and Cybermen.

  • @-JA-
    @-JA- 26 днів тому +3

    🙂👍

  • @Davidjackman572
    @Davidjackman572 24 дні тому

    how about the daleks vs the stargate replicators

  • @kennethmelnychuk9737
    @kennethmelnychuk9737 26 днів тому +3

    FUCK, I hate auto correct

  • @chomper720
    @chomper720 23 дні тому

    Borg are just Cybermen that can time travel, they do have better shields than the Cybermen but in the long run I think Daleks will win.

  • @frankreynolds445
    @frankreynolds445 22 дні тому

    Species 8472 will be a better challenge.

  • @navy3001
    @navy3001 21 день тому

    Daleks use energy weapons, borg adapts.

  • @bettyswunghole3310
    @bettyswunghole3310 27 днів тому +2

    Whoever wins, we lose...
    ...actually, I think this strapline might have already been used by another sci-fi franchise...😅

  • @vic5015
    @vic5015 23 дні тому

    What will the Daleks do when the Borg adapt to neutralize their weapons?

  • @daniels7907
    @daniels7907 23 дні тому

    The Daleks were able to take on the Time Lords, who have technology that can *eat* galaxies! The Borg wouldn't stand a chance. Their ability to assimilate is dependent on them being at least a little bit more advanced than their target. More advanced targets can overwhelm even the Collective. Remember that the Borg discovered to their great loss that Species 8472 and their otherdimensional biology could resist assimilation, while their bioships could destroy all the cubes and planets they wanted without the Borg being able to adapt.

  • @rickyesney2273
    @rickyesney2273 16 днів тому

    What about, the Q vs the timelords? Who would win that?

  • @ghostmachine71
    @ghostmachine71 23 дні тому

    One on one, the Dalek wins. More than that, the Borgs adapt to the Dalek guns, and wipe the floor with them.....if they can penetrate the Dalekanium armor.

  • @ian2081
    @ian2081 23 дні тому

    While the Daleks do have time travel, they don’t use all that often and rarely strategically. Going into the past implies that they cannot fight something in the present. Which would make no sense since “Daleks are the supreme lifeform in the universe.” The Daleks will retreat, but only after catastrophic losses.
    A conflict between these two would come down to a simple fact: the Borg can evolve, the Daleks cannot. The Borg will assimilate, develop, or adapt new technologies and even new ideas, and can do so quickly. The Daleks on the other, um, tendril, really don’t advance that much, and when they do it’s over centuries or millennium. They have used others technology when they absolutely had to, but to them this is abhorrent to them. As doing so would imply they are some how not the smartest, or worse, wrong.
    The Daleks would have an initial advantage, but the nature of the two races would result in the Borg overtaking them in a few generations

  • @gordonhardwick9552
    @gordonhardwick9552 24 дні тому

    The Borg would self destruct if assimilated and very very over powered weapons

  • @haakonstenseth
    @haakonstenseth 23 дні тому

    WE ARE THE BORG. YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED. YOUR UNIQUENESS WILL BE ADDED TO OUR COLLECTIVE. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

  • @rodan9773
    @rodan9773 27 днів тому +9

    The Borg have no chance.
    The Daleks have reality warping capabilities invented better Time Tavel Created better Weapons better Armour and better tactics no amout of adaption can save The Borg even if they had The Chance to Adapt The Daleks Adapt too and faster.

  • @normanhines5189
    @normanhines5189 16 днів тому

    Better comparison: Borg v. Cybermen. Both want to assimilate you.

    • @UtopianBroadcast1
      @UtopianBroadcast1  8 днів тому

      True. It is a better comparison. Planning to release that video next month.

  • @darthwiizius
    @darthwiizius 24 дні тому +1

    The Borg are superior in one regard, dying

  • @shaunryan-izzard8110
    @shaunryan-izzard8110 24 дні тому

    Ok, simply put, an armada of Borg stand no chance against a single Dalek.
    Why?
    Simple
    1) Dalek weaponry. The Dalek particle disrupted is effectively a vehicle class weapon used as a personal weapon. It acts to disrupt all organic and technological systems it impacts. This would effectively nullify or massively impair the Borgs ability to adapt, as this relies on the drone relaying information back to the collective. The Dalek particle disruptor would simply create massive, simultaneously, catastrophic failur of all the drones systems.
    2) Dalek Pathweb. Lime the Borg, the Daleks are connected to a hive mind. Unlike the Borg though, individual Daleks are not dependant on it. This means that all data collected would be instantaneously relayed to all other Daleks whilst also gaining the collective processing resources of the Pathweb. This seems similar to the Borg, but...
    3) Individual Daleks. Each Dalek is extremely intelligent, capable of cracking complex codes in seconds. Borg drones have no Individuality, and therefore cannot react to a given problem as quickly as a Dalek.
    4) Bonded Polycarbonate armour. The Dalek machine is made of materials capable of withstanding massive energy and concussive forces. The machine is a self contained environ0ment, able to.withstand hard vacuum to high pressure ocean. It would almost certainly be resistant to Borg nanoprobes.
    5) Dalek physiology. Daleks are a radioactive mutation, enhanced by the Kaled cheif scientist Davros to survive at all costs. This means that, even if a Dalek ages to the point of its cellular cohesion breaks down, the individual cells aggressively attack any other living creature, including Daleks. This means that the very cells of a Dalek would be resistant to assimilation in much the same way as Species 8472.

  • @justinhammer3196
    @justinhammer3196 26 днів тому

    What war? Davros would smex up the Borg Queen and then they would wipe out the Federation and Time Lord's. Also the Borg should have retired after Seven of Nine anyway as they had achieved perfection at that point.

  • @ralphscholz9533
    @ralphscholz9533 23 дні тому

    Two words. TIME TRAVEL. While nowhere near as potent as time manipulation, it would still be the ultimate game changer in any fantasy conflict if applied correctly.

  • @darkreflection9087
    @darkreflection9087 25 днів тому

    (Doctor Who) Cybermen vs (Star Trek) Borg

  • @PaulDavies4
    @PaulDavies4 20 днів тому

    Easy win for the Daleks. The Daleks can literally travel through time.
    The Borg and Cybermen would be a better comparison as they both are cyborgs, and both asilimate species, both remove individuality and emotions, and both have a hive mind.
    If anything the Cybermen and Borg would probably agree to a merger, as they are so similar.