The Dahvie Vanity Case + His Responses
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Who is Dahvie Vanity, why are people talking about him, and how has he responded? All this and more addressed in this video on the man who know goes by Kawaii Monster (real name Jesus Torres). A lot of info, but I did my best to create the most comprehensive video for a new person to get a good grasp on why he's being talked about.
Helpful videos on this situation by other youtubers:
Ready to glare's "Veil Lifted: Dahvie Vanity" - • Veil Lifted: Dahvie Va...
Repzilla's Dahvie Vanity video - • Dahvie Vanity: The Tru...
SM Creepshow's "please don't contact Dahvie Vanity" - • Video
TehMimi's "The Beautiful Lies of Jeffree Star" - • The Beautiful Lies of ...
If you have information or have been targeted by Dahvie and would be willing to share your story to the proper authorities but don't know how, please contact either Mal or Ashlee via twitter. There is an open FBI case at the moment. Ashlee's twitter: / ashleelilliex Mal's twitter: / mallevy_
UPDATE: The original version of this video included a segment featuring a youtuber who bumped into Dahvie at a hotel with a younger gal. I've since removed the segment since she has gone on to address her experience on her channel, @marieslifevlogsmysteries197. I will provide an update on this in the follow up video as I have also gotten in touch with the young lady. Update video will be on the side channel @HomeboyEdwin.
Links to New Year’s Day and Jayy’s statements in the pinned comment.
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Disclaimer: I work independently and my videos cover stories that expose certain aspects of human behavior through as much research as I can find. The objective is to breakdown stories and behavior through logic and psychology while also adding a personal perspective with commentary and a sprinkle of humor.
If you have information or have been targeted by Dahvie and would be willing to share your story to the proper authorities but don't know how, please contact either Mal or Ashlee via twitter or myself via email below with an appropriate subject line (though I may redirect you!). There is an open FBI case at the moment. Ashlee's twitter: twitter.com/ashleelilliex Mal's twitter: twitter.com/Mallevy_
Follow up video will be up soon on my second channel "Homeboy's Got Receipts" so keep an eye out for it. Thank you all for the support. Below are links to Jayy and Ash Costello's statements in regards to Dahvie Vanity.
Jayy regarding leaving the band: www.sputnikmusic.com/news/37328/Jayyvon-Opens-Up-About-Abuse/
Ash Costello regarding why she was kicked off Blood On The Dance Floor's tour: www.metalsucks.net/2018/08/01/blood-on-the-dance-floors-dahvie-vanity-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-multiple-women-many-while-they-were-underage/
Full response videos from Dahvie (reposted because he's taken them down despite saying asking viewers to share).
First response from 2015 titled "The Real Truth About Dahvie Vanity": ua-cam.com/video/DlsGZlCNIag/v-deo.html
Second response from 2016 titled "The Real Truth About Jesus David Torres": ua-cam.com/video/KbiRBiSEznc/v-deo.html
GET THEM EDWIN !!
I’ve reported him to Disney’s legal department for copyright infringement a few weeks ago
Hey hun the Ash Costello Video is a broken link it is saying when I click on it just fyi the other 2 work I got a few mins into 2nd video & got SO ANGRY I Had to exit...... If I didnt have a family I'd go hunt him down for real....... I have stage 4 metastatic breast and lung cancer. So yeah It would be worth BREAKING SOME ONE HIS BONES MAINLY HIS NECK N SPINE.... STAY SAFE YALL HUGS
@hayleyzevol bash I think the problem with jeffree in this situation is that he claimed to have witnessed Dahvie doing illegal things with underage girls, and then recanted his statement entirely and said he never actually saw anything and acted all buddy buddy with Dahvie after that. Lying about something like that is super scummy, especially in a situation like this where there have been so many other allegations. But that's just my opinion, I don't like or hate jeffree tbh
Thanks for showing some of the video of "his explanations" I didnt want to dig too much for them bc he angers me!
Painting your double chin black to make it less visible is big brain energy
Thanks for bringing a spark of laughter into this dark disturbing case, I needed it lol
@@witchcat8086 fun fact, his old Myspace name was "something something something 'The Hair God' " and that colorful mop on his head is actually a wig
I'm confused by this post?
@@LazyAlternativeBrat I knew about his wig but I can only imagine it smells like cat piss and old sweaty socks 🤮 hope he rots in a prison cell bald and makeup less
@@lehliladevandria5712 if u look at him closely, he has black paint in his neck so u can't really see it
I saw someone call him “Rawr” Kelly and my soul left my body
I literally gaFFAWED OMG😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Lmfao!!😂
LMFAO this is Gold!!!
10/10
It's with me now. If you want it back, please say vanity is virtue three times and cry. The exchange has been completed. Thank you and have a good day.
"Ävoiding the parentals" is not something adults can relate to for the most part... His music RESONATES with young immature little girls who have problems at home. Not grown ass women who don't have to listen to their mommys anymore.
Definitely interesting. I read it as avoiding the parents of his underage fans and/or victims. Hes a fucking disgusting man
@@Evelyn-nz4mp that could be it
But regardless of the context. You dont avoid parents of adult women lol what for?
@@Evelyn-nz4mp I grew up in alt/indie scenes and I think most people in it come from dysfunctional homes. Teenagers don't rebel against stable families.
The lyrics just... ugh
@@Gee-xb7rt Unfortunately very true. I just wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that he got off on the idea that their parents would not be ok with what he was doing with their children. Maybe he enjoyed that these children were keeping this big secret about him, possibly hurting their relationship with their parents. It seems like a power/control thing to me.
if he made the shows 18 and up no one literally no one would be there
lmao exactly
so true so sick /: this dude gross
thats the point
LITERALLY
"Give me your bras"
No they're so expensive. DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I PAYED FOR THIS???
Girl thank you!! Tell me about it!!
Heck even if it was a cheaper bra i wouldnt do it. Thats still another bra id have to buy
That was literally my first thought too 😂
Right they expensive
Literally $50 sometimes more
Says it’s geared towards women... also refuses to play 18+ venues and only does all ages shows. Mhmmm
There's also an interview Dahvie and Jayy did where they talked about how cool it was that most of their fans were younger because they were the nicest and most loyal at that age, something along those lines. Of course I doubt Jayy meant anything by it, BUT the fact that it was acknowledged then and Dahvie still wanted to say later on that his music was geared towards 18+? The scene style as a WHOLE wasn't an adult thing, literally nothing about it was adult-like other than the lyrics. His appeal was geared toward younger kids and teens and there's no denying it.
pastelbelle does an interview with a victim who did go to a botdf 18+ show, but her and her friends had fake ids and when Dahvie found out he used it to his advantage, and separated one of the girls from her friends and r*ped her :(
Pffft if he did that he would be broke right now.
🤢
Bc those venues would be empty if they were 18+ only shows lol
A 17 year old girl is still a child in my eyes
until they’re 18, they’re a child
in most states the age of consent is 16 which means as long they consent its fine if the other persons over 18 the problem is when there 10 or 11
@@lundon4458 just because it's legal doesn't mean its right. A 30 year old man has no business being interested in a 16 year old girl
@@mikebohuslavseligman892 just say you like 17 year olds and go
Mike Bohuslav Seligman dude what??? Are you okay
The fact that his victims from 2011 are still in their 20s in 2020 is disgusting.
Right
Not giving up bras isn’t being a prude it’s because that bras are expensive and no one wants to give that up 😅
Omg...I needed this comment xD
If I were one of those tweens and just shelled out $50+ of my hard-earned allowance money to see a concert, I'm not going to toss you my $30 bra so I can go home and explain to my mom that I need her to take me bra shopping because I 'lost' mine.
FullMoonOctober exactly! And not all kids get an allowance, I didn’t get one growing up that’s for sure 😅
That and they’re mostly literally little girls.
@@EllaB3399 Thank you! I got 2 € (which was 0,95 USD per 1 EUR, so 1,90 USD, I looked it up!) a week! I couldn't afford a basic bra that fit me within a fucking year if I didn't need to buy pencils and shit with that as well! 😂
i called him fatty patty and he blocked me 😌💅🏼
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂 lmfao!
omfg 😂😂😂 doing the lord's work lmao
😂😂😂
The Jessie slaughter video was so sad, it’s messed up how he made a song about it and called a 12 tear old a slut. WTF
Only thing funny about jessi's video was cyber police and you don goofed. Everything else was disturbing
Also the fact that he released it ON Jessis 12th birthday. Ruthless.
He made her a slut then shamed her for it.
@@Wombedful That's literally what every guy does.
@@cellblocknine5385 what
"We can't control who comes to our shows" ummmmmm..... You sure can, every rave/festival/show I've gone to as an adult has been 18 plus
@The Great SteveO the shows were all ages, no one made the shows 18+.
miss Anie Bananie exactly I was underage and went to a BOTDF concert in Minneapolis, MN at Skyway Theater that was on June 17th, 2014.. 4 days after I would be turning 14. the venue was so dark and people were making out.. and touching each other.. not appropriate at all looking back at it..
@@ladylove2123 right? Like all they would have to do is ID people at the door. That way if an underaged person got in it is because they have a fake ID but the VAST majority of people (if not all attendees) would be of legal age
@@missaniebananie6473 yes you’re right! They never asked for ID though.
@@missaniebananie6473 Not defending this dirt bag by no means but I was able to get into an age restricted venue when I was 17. Lol Just told the person I forgot my wallet at home and they let me right in. Sometimes the whole ID thing doesn't matter and the Venue determines the age restriction.
As a grown woman I can confirm we do not listen to his “music”. It’s clearly not made for us!
Right lol the music stopped appealing to me almost immediately after my first year of college in 2013.
I mainly listened to k-pop, emo bands and watched anime in highschool haha
You are a cool mom
Well yeah it's for teens
I've never even heard of this guy or his band. UA-cam recommended me this video lol.
Give me your Hello Kitty bra and gaming T-shirt.
Why isn't anyone talking about how creepy it is when he says "she failed the rape kit" like DUDE it's not something someone tries to pass or ace wtf
Andrew Jackson it looks for evidence of tearing/ripping of the vagina and also traces of semen.
Jevonte Hodge I seriously hope you don’t wind up in that situation because your comment would change
Jevonte Hodge not exactly true. There isnt always dna evidence or tearing. A rape kit can come back negative even if someone was raped thats why what Dahvie is saying is so ridiculous and proves nothing.
Jevonte Hodge nobody purposely puts themselves in a situation to get raped
Shit not even a rape kit can prove you were 100% raped. You can get tears from rough sex. You get little cuts every time you have sex. That’s why it starts to hurt inside sometimes if you have continuous sex or have rough sex🤷♀️ facts
"I was gearing that toward mature women"
He was holding up basically a training bra.
Come on now, don't all mature women wear hello kitty bras?
Yeah, for training little girls.
Lol
Right 🤦🏽♀️
When he was up there demanding bras, someone should’ve told him to buy his own.
Lmfaooo
Lol
I've been to multiple concerts, even 3 day shows where everyone gets shitfaced, not once have I seen any artists ask for bras ffs?!? But those artists have morals and I'm sure plenty of groupies of age, they don't target children and I've never once seen the artists ask females younger than their 20's on their tour buses. I was asked by a roadie for Uncle Kracker to come chill with them and I turned them down. I was 25 and NOT a groupie lol!
Pretty sure some ICP juggalo is gonna snatch that wig. There's plenty of juggalos in Florida, namely, Miami😁
Lmfao
he says he can't help who comes to his show, he can't stop underage kids from showing up....but it is absolutely possible to restrict the age of your audience at a show/performance..... I've seen lots of bands play shows that were 19+ only and they just ID you at the door.....so, what?
Yeah all this ‘I can’t help it’ is bs. He literally refuses play at gigs at venues that are strictly 18+ or else he’d have an empty venue
i believe one of the victims said he invited her to one of his shows that was 18+ but dahvie got her into the venue even though she was underage, so i feel like even if their shows were 18+ he’d still find a way to be a predator :(
those rules are usually set by the venue. places go out of their way to be all ages because it brings in more $. bands don't set the rules.
I know that when they were here in Glasgow UK, it was 18+ and everyone was ID'd I almost didn't get In until I finally had my partner bring it from home >< (i was 20 at the time) and knowing the venue staff personally, they don't age restrict anything but the bar area. Maybe that was a 1 off or something though? Idk tho
No one would be there if he restricted the age, but he can't say that because that's admitting his music ONLY appeals to kids.
Dahvie: "I check IDs! I don't hang out with anybody under 18!"
Also Dahvie: openly admits to having sex with a 17 year old
@Jevonte Hodge Yeah I know, it was just an interesting contradiction
"Gimme your bras!" Most of his fans are 13........ gross
Age was pathetic, more pathetic is the extent he sounded like a whiny beta bitch begging for the bras.
right??? and then the clip where it says it was for the older mature woman in the crowd.. sure it was.. gtfoh
As he's tainting FF7 music
Descartes' Apparition not there sadly
Even 10
I love how women always have some sort of “mental issues” that report sexual assault or rape. I always hear this excuse from someone accused of this shit
First off anyone going to see a weirdo band like his needs to have their heads examined….
Even if they did wouldnt that just confirm the rape more because it means the woman wasnt in the right state to consent.
Except that specific case has been proved fake for good, and she had a huuuge track record of accusing celebreties of the same shit
to be honest it immediately gives you mental health issues and it only gets worse more and more over time.
i mean, getting molested will give you mental issues, and vulnerable children are more likely BOTH to get molested AND to have mental health issues
i’d pay money to see people yelling outside dahvies courthouse “dont be a prude!”
Lmaoo 😂
Would be great if rocks are thrown to his windows too
As opposed to paying with air.
@Jevonte Hodge How do you know?
Jevonte Hodge lol you don’t know what people would and wouldn’t do.
When I was 15 years old (2012) I went to go see BOTDF with a friend of mine (also 15). We got to the show super early, basically first ones there, and we saw them pull up and load their gear into the venue so we asked them if we could take a picture with them, totally fangirling at this point. A couple minutes later dahvie comes back out to talk to us and asks us if we know any place to eat in the area, we said we didn’t but there was a target nearby and he asked if we wanted to go with him. We literally got into their tour van and drove with him to target and hung out for about an hour. Nothing excessive happened (aside from a bunch of sexual jokes no adult man should be saying to underage girls) but now all this information is popping up and it honestly makes me sick to my stomach how naive we were and how willingly he was to take advantage of our innocence. At that point we were kids and were star struck and didn’t know any better, I’m just glad that nothing bad happened... my heart goes out to all his victims
I guess your parents didn't teach you stranger danger.
what did your parents think about that??
@@EmmuelleBerger2011 I guess his parents didn't teach him not to be a fucking creep.
Where tf were the parents of all of these young girls including yourself? They really let you attend an all ages concert by people making sexual music? Did you lie to them or something? My brain is just melting from the easy access this pervert had to children.
Edit: To be clear, I'm not blaming your younger self because many kids don't understand these things at all. I'm just genuinely confused at how stuff like this even happens???
Lol what a liar.
Where was this show? Venue/city?
I hate Dahvie, but tired of fakes undemining the real victims here.
I wonder how many predators have performed at Warped Tour.
40 lashes unfortunately I would bet a bunch (including J*)
A lot of people have negative stories from their experiences going to Warped Tour
Bria Bush Sleeping With Sirens did an interview where the singer said he’d never let his daughter go to Warped Tour and his other band mate said that underage girls constantly got groped while crowd surfing.
I used to beg my dad to let me go every summer, glad he never gave in to it. Lots of horror stories surrounding warped tour.
It’s beyond common sadly, you wouldn’t believe some of them that get involved in disgusting shit like this.
Oh and it doesn’t end for these sickos at warped tour. These bands do their own tours and their own damage...
Kevin Lyman protected alot of them too, he protected Austin Jones by shutting Deefizzy up. Especially letting people like Dahvie on HIS tour.
When I was 14, I was gonna go to one of his shows, but I got sick. I’m glad I didn’t go and meet him, I wouldn’t want to be assaulted or worse. My heart goes out to the girls who were violated by this pig who claims he’s innocent or not in the wrong, he has no respect for women and is an insult to musicians.
Jevonte Hodge 😐
@Jevonte Hodge Big yikes.
prayers go out to you and the other delusional woman who have accused the wonderful Lord D 🙏🏻
I don't consider what he does is music, guess I'm too old lol.
What did jevonte post? It must've been horrible enough to delete it?
“Positivity and love” has been weaponized for a while now...
The way he said that was so manipulative 'if you disagree you need help' 🤮
New age bs
The look of pain on Edwin's face whenever he had to read the lyrics was proof of bad music killing brain cells.
His song lyrics sound like they were written by a 12 yr old who's trying too hard to be explicit.
I mean, he did let kids "help" him write songs without paying them or giving them any credit, so you're not too far off the mark
I believe that was the point but idk
@@TheAshesvondust EXACTLY, MOST OF HIS MUSIC WAS WRITTEN BY TEENAGED GIRLS... DISGUSTING
He was attracting his targets with bait they would respond to.
Same same
It still blows my mind that they actually had fans bruh I’d rather listen to Justin Bieber’s baby lol
that song actually isn't bad tho
That song slaps
Justins way way WAY better then dahvie will ever be!
"mature" woman are not going to give you their bras 😂 oh wait "mature" woman wouldn't listen to botdf 🙄 x
I wish this were true... when BOTDF where huge, my cousin was “scene” and head over heels in love with them..all while being 20 YO. Thank LORT she came out that phase REAL QUICK, but sadly some adults were also blindsided back in the day too. This is how it goes so bad, it wasn’t only kids not seeing what he was doing, adults didn’t either. And the ones that did...well..we all know it’s taken them this long to SPEAK.
Honestly. Bras are too expensive to just throw on stage and never get back like what 😂
@@OrianaFunkhouser 😂😂 exactly! X
Exactly! His music is pure garbage. I’d never give my bra up for anybody. F that
“the kids are the ones who suffer” ... “i don’t make music for kids”
thought the same thing
He tries to correct it to "fans" as well.
Freudian slip
"We're not a fan base, WE ARE A CULT"
yeah.... red flag....
BMTH started doing that, so did a lot of new age rappers lol, so what?
GliTcH SKully Does that excuse Dahvie to be a fucking predator and a creep?
How the hell is he getting away with this? This guy must have ties to somebody in a high up position. And he's so cocky about it too.
I would have dipped and go home
omg I love Cults by Parcast they need to do a dahvie ep
As someone who was Underaged when I got married at 15 years old to a 24 yr old. Let me tell you NO we were NOT consenting Adults. I had NO idea what I was getting into! All I knew was he had the Biggest influence on my life. I'd never had attention like that before in my life! While also Ruining my life. I was used, abused, & taught to be a Play thingy for him. Yes I have proof. Statue of limitations does nothing in this State especially when it's been almost 15 years. And I was pregnant at 16 with a child that I had NO idea how to care for. It was to trap me in that relationship. So I know from experience that humans are Not mature or consenting as a minor or even at 18 yr old.
I hope you are doing ok as of today!
dang...
While he “explains” you can tell he doesn’t even believe himself lmao
Yessss
His response video he accidentally refers to his fans as kids while explaining that his music is geared toward adults and stuff he says on stage is directed at the adult women in the crowd. Ya know, the ones wearing hello kitty bras, those adult women. 🤔
When you were reading the lyrics, my soul cringed
Right my skin started crawling
Girl right......and that's coming from a black woman who's listened to trap their whole life. But none of those rappers rapped about hiding from parental. I'm appalled.
Yes, painful.
YinYang Qui You’re pretty
My jaw literally dropped like wtf, this was music?! My god.
I think Jeffree is just trying to save his own ass. Dahvie probably has some dirt on him and he wants to avoid having it get out, so he's acting like everything he said abt dahvie was a lie.
I agree. Likely they both have something on each other.
There are videos of Jefree seeing Dahvie sexually harassing and inappropriately touching underage girls in front of him so he’s clearly lying to save his ass.
Jevonte Hodge There’s literally a clip at 14:00 of this video.
Jevonte Hodge Pls get your eyes checked
@Jevonte Hodge tf? she looks twelve!
Jeffree is lying about Dahvie, it’s been confirmed that he’s lying about things he knows.
Oh I remember back in the day Jeffree took part in making light of a situation where this Dahvie person had sex with a 10 year old. Only when he started to be deemed an enabler did Jeffree claim to "no longer support" him. Jeffree star is a joke, and idk why anyone still supports him. Google "you done gooft"
Jeffree is 100% trying to cover his own ass.
Dahvie is guilty, even Chris Hansen has proven Dahvie's predatory advances. He's gross
“I was very clearly only asking for bras from adults, my whole audience is teenagers, but I blinked twice and that means 18+ everyone knows that” give me a break dude 🙄
FINALLY
Edit:
He blocked me on my Instagram because I sent him a meme of Chris Hansen strangling him 😔🤙🏻
Hahahahaha
Omg a true soldier. 🇺🇲😎🏴☠️
Gods work 💀
I should send him a picture of jail
Well congratulations. 😂👌
I CANNOT believe how blatant Dahvey Vanity was in his lyrics about his disgusting desires for underage girls!
*Edit, OMG, thanks for the likes you guys, I've never had so many!!!!*
This is my British sarcasm btw, I get 2nd hand embarrassment when people do this in the comments of UA-cam. Is it because they're under-18, so social media likes increase their self-esteem? I'm really trying to understand da yoof and toxic internet communities (aspects of 4Chan and Reddit, the Fappening etc). If I ever had an emo kid of mine getting into bands and wanting to go to gigs and festivals, I wouldn't want to fail to protect them just because I would want to give them some independence, and we like similar music. For example I love Marilyn Manson, NIN, Soundgarden, Smashing Pumpkins, Hole, Pearl Jam and Nirvana, and still do now, so I had my share of edgy, rebellious, moody teen days. I know if 12-17 year old me had the opportunity to meet any of those bands, both male and female adults could have got away with a ton of arrestable offences and no one would have believed me too, despite none of their lyrics or musical styles being SO OBVIOUSLY aimed at little girls, like BOTDF.
Actually, I must go and listen to all the back catalogues of each band as penance for mentioning them in the same paragraph as BOTDF and "Elite Hair God", wig-wearing, painting his chin black to hide that he's the wrong, chubby side of 30 now, known paedo, Jesus (who I have as much faith in hanging out with girls between the ages 10-18 as I have faith that good guy Jesus could turn water into wine, which is to say ABSOLUTELY NONE!)😠
@@user-fo6jj4tm9m Really, dude? After I made a little joke, explained it away as a result of my sarcastic, British sense of humour, and then proceeded to think out loud about why young females may be attracted to an obvious sexual predator, your main concern was that I was acting "so judgmental"?!
I think you may need to get your priorities straight there, my friend; from here it looks like you're trying to pick a fight with someone attempting to understand this situation, and prevent it happening to other young music-lovers in the future again. Do better and be better.
Trish Delish don’t pay attention 🤣clearly it pertains to them. It’s not that deep it’s your opinion and it’s 100% valid. You’re not being judgmental at all.
@@DrT0705 its cause theres so many hateful incels in the world now
@@user-fo6jj4tm9m right. Theres a difference between being sarcastic and being a straight assholes
The bullying and eating disorder was what caused alot of my own daughters issues. She committed suicide on December 31 2019. She wss 20 and she shot herself in the chest. She was into the emo movement. This makes me very sad as a mom. Im 45 and a Type o Negative and Dax Riggs fan so my daughter was into these type of scenes. I'm terribly sorry for your pain growing up.
That's horrible I'm sorry to hear that I hope your doing ok
im so sorry for your loss :(
I’m so sorry. RIP.
He acts like he’s eternally 15 years old
I hate that Edwin implies only kids wear video game shirts. Other than that little comment, pretty solid video.
Even though the age of consent in that state is 17, it was still nonconsensual and he forced her to perform a sexual act on him. He knew what he was doing and he knows it wasn't consensual. How could someone consent when they just met and within minutes he's lured her to a secluded area and forced himself onto her? He did not even ask or discuss this with her beforehand. He was violent and aggressive, and she was afraid and probably in shock. It's just so disgusting how he severely downplays what happened.
plus this girl said he was so violent and forceful he actually made her bleed. he downplays it for the rest of society but he couldn't care less about what effect he's having on these girls.
yes!! and even if the age of consent is 17 she’s still a minor and it’s disgusting that he even got involved, he knows better.
Everyone: saying this music sucks how can anyone have heard this
Me: *sighs in 14-year-old shame*
Bruh I was like 7 lmao. Idk what I was thinking
Me: Hangs head in 12 year old same
I was like 16-19 years old...^^'
@@luxuriamorea ok YOU get to be embarrassed.
i’m proud of 12 year old me for knowing of them but never listening 🤢
wait a damn minute-
why are there underaged people on his concert if the music is 18+?
They shouldn't have let them at the concert in the first place.
General admission: I hate to do this,but bands like:Disturbed,dir en grey,Slipknot, motionless in white etc. all swear, and do crazy shit on stage, and the venue falls under general admission.
It depends on the venues also
Why is being a “prude” so bad anyways. Let people be comfortable with themselves jesus
Wait nvm. Read your comment wrong, I misheard
Exactly. Someone being uncomfortable with doing something (I.e. Throw your bra or other things) is not being a prude. It's having boundaries and following them.
No one has any modesty now a days
Using 'Jesus' as a substitute for 'fuck' is so much funnier where someone is actually called Jesus
thank you.
Being a victim of him let me tell u there’s lots of his victims coming out and we are trying to put him in jail because he should not be walking around a free man.
I hope his ass ends up in jail for a very long time 🖤🖤🖤 I hope all of the many victims and/or survivors find some sense of justice in this terrible situation 🖤🖤🖤
I'm so sorry you had to go through that
3:34 How does one "fail a rape kit?" The girl said she was so disgusted she swished her mouth with coke wanting that stuff out of her mouth not realizing she was washing away evidence. However, she also provided a t-shirt she cleaned up with that the police didn't even bother to test. After a few years the police destroyed the t-shirt without notifying her and tried to claim that destroying evidence was routine so it can't be retested now.
Also police don't "prove your innocence" that's not how the justice system works. All that him being let go means is that either the police or district attorney felt there wasn't enough evidence to bring charges...not at all the same thing as being innocent.
That, or someone took a bribe...
Exactly, there’s no such thing as “failing” a rape kit. It’s not like a test that you either pass or fail 🙄
I am a nurse we take saliva which is included in a rape investigation and not sticking up for him but cola does not wash away semen.. We would find the DNA within the saliva.. If there was no DNA evidence then most likely it probably did not happen .. now I'm not defending I am just putting this out there ..I have done a few rape kit so to speak .. I truly despise pedophiles!
@@Nurse79 While she said she felt disgusted and washed out her mouth with Coke she didn't expressly say that he ejaculated into her mouth. He could have done it elsewhere which is supported by her needing a t-shirt to clean up with, a t-shirt that wasn't tested. Also, while a few swigs of Coke probably wouldn't wash away semen you don't know how vigorously she cleaned out her mouth.
the police had to have been bribed or are just the worse police in history.
Why are these bandmembers in their twenties acting like kids meanwhile I am sitting here turning 21, being a mom, studying, working my ass off, buying an apartment etc... I feel like these are a totally different kind of human beings.
Some people are really immature and don't care to make anything of themselves.
Good for you by the way! 😀
I'm 24 and see their behavior as so immature and so disgusting. My husband and I are looking at houses with a baby on the way in late October. I couldn't imagine doing anything like Dahvie 😓
The music scene is filled with babies
Because you are not a pedophile
Makes me sad to see this comment when im just a 30 year old with nothing going for him, playing nintendo x)
I'm glad you decided to add your voice to the mix because you showed a lot of clips and things I haven't seen yet, and I've seen a LOT. I'm glad you let that youtuber know who Dahvie is or those three young girls might have actually met him which is a scary fuckin thought
He is a sick fuck and has a sense of finding single mothers with young daughters.
I don't understand how Jefree Star is getting away with everything everytime he's involved in some drama
Because Jeffree Star gets away with _everything._ Even in the beauty community, which is often portrayed as bloodthirsty, any critique of Jeffree's storeyed past of controversy and currently unacceptable behaviour is brushed off -- though less powerful people are scrutinised and attacked for less.
MeewMeew001 because he is the king off manipulation.
Very good at manipulation and forcing emotion. Severely odd that we wouldn't hold a grown man accountable for allowing his friend to r*pe kids and only tweet about it and not call the cops. He probably knew, but didn't see anything, was pissed at Dahvie for something and then wrote that without realizing that it compromises him as well. Then he had to backtrack or he'd look bad.
money talks
He knows the right people, and he also has lots of money. Those two things are the key to getting away with anything.
That comment Jeffree said about someone in the crowd looking like they have autism & down syndrome is disgusting. I had relatives who had down syndrome, I knew other people who had it. I have Aspergers (a form of Autism). It's disgusting that Jeffree himself is barely called out on his behaviour.
it makes sense to me that someone who’d use racial slurs would also be ableist. lipstick nazi after all.
Totally agree! My son is autistic. Anyone who says things of that nature, as if it's an insult, is a despicable person. Shows how much he actually knows about it though, aye?
@@pissangelmindfreak I'll be calling jeffrey like this from now on and until the day I leave this earth
He doesn’t get called out today bc people in the industry are more than likely scared of him. Like he could literally ruin someone’s career in seconds with a single video.🥴
Jeffree Star should look in the mirror lol honestly
Please someone find a picture of him without his wig and makeup and double chin cover up
Exactly!!! I wanna see his receding hairline
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim same
I need my beard to cover my ugly face xD
toxicrainbowsxx
there's one floating around on facey/reddit!
There’s one pic on google if you search his real name and botdf bald
If his music was only for mature audiences then at concerts there should have been an age requirement of 18 and up. And not let children/ teenagers in.
Im sorry he said in a video "and were gunna have sex" when people can clearly see that he is with a child in that picture....put this person in jail
This girl Piper that I knew in high school had been featured in a couple of their music videos and also had boasted about being involved with him at 15. No one believed her back then and she ended up having a really hard time with it. One day she said she no longer was associated with him and never mentioned it again.
That's sad. might be worth reaching out to her. Maybe she'd like to tell her story or be made aware there's a case against him.
Hahah. I went to that BOTDF tour with Jeffree when I was 13(Seattle) It’s funny I’m seeing all this now... after the show I was getting merch and Dahvie was at the booth, as it’s about my turn he comes over to me and starts saying how beautiful I am and getting very friendly. I was excited because here’s this guy in a band that I loved complimenting me(remind you I’m 13 he’s in his late 20s) Then he asked me if he could give me a kiss. It kinda made me feel weird but I went for it thinking he was going to kiss me on the cheek and he straight up kisses me on the lips. I remember feeling dirty, very turned off and walking away confused. My best friend saw the whole thing, we talked about it for years and pretty much stoped listening to them right after that. Seeing all of this with my experience he is an absolute creep. At that same show tho Jeffree grabbed my head and shoved it in his crotch while he was on stage(I was in the crowd in the very front of the stage) and he grabbed my hand and put it on his junk during that performance multiple times, I was not trying to grope him.I was also very obviously underage. He’s a creep too.
Jeffree is a monster as well. Crypt keeper of lies
I was 15 when I went to see BOTDF. Looking back, it was super sexual and creepy at times considering most people were teens. My 18 year old friend went "backstage"/hotels after a few of the gigs.
Can we PLEASE call him by his real name? I feel like it's building his ego to keep calling him by his fruitcake stage name..
Descartes' Apparition honestly I’m shocked he didn’t make his stage name Jesus Vanity as he seems to think he’s a god lmao
Right!
Are we deadnaming dhavie? lol
What IS his name?
Yea let's do that!!
............ Wh-....... What is his name?
Those lyrics sounded like a Dr Seuss riddle
Edgy talentless Suess
Leave the Legend Dr suess out of this lmao
siriuslyconfused1 u did the Dr. dirty
Dr. Suess would NEVER do anything like that.
Edwin saying "this is ghARBAGE"
I need this as a text tone.
He literally said, "The kids are the ones that suffer". Then right after that, realizing he messed up, he tried to correct it.
12:09 "The KIDS were the ones that suffered... uh... the-the fans" The fact that he can't control when the truth slips in in between 😂😂
I noticed that too lmao. Lies are hard to keep on top of. Surprised Edwin didn't point it out.
BIG OOF. How is this pos still alive?
Kaylah Elizabeth When he goes to jail he won’t last long I can tell you that.
Damn. Homeboy does have receipts. I’ve never seen half of these videos, but that “ghost hunting” one? It speaks for itself
How does it speak for itself? 🤔
I can’t help but to think that jeffree retracted his statements because he’s hiding something that he doesn’t want dahvie to expose
Jeffree star 😱
He probably was also doing something illegal maybe? And doesn't want it to come up again because it could ruin his career ?? Just a thought
@@cherry3158 there's videos of him talking about hunting underage boys down from 2007-2010 lmao
sameeee have u seen Liam mcEvoys video of jeffree ?
Agreed. I watched an interview with a woman who did merch for Jeffree and William Control (I forget her name) and the little she did say about Jeffree was not positive and she mentioned some things about racist comments being normal.
My heart breaks for all the young girls abused and assaulted by this evil man 💔
Yes
I can't believe they threw Torein's case out because she had just turned 17. Just because she's "old enough" to consent doesn't mean she did!!! Wtf!!!!
He said "the kids will suffer!" But then "i make music for an older audience" and then "i never asked the kids to come" bro im 🤯
Honestly when he said that I was like "nice job incriminating yourself." Truly.
@@sinnamonroll2780 i think the mold from his wigs seeped into his brain and made him delusional and he just cant get his story right and in the end will just dig his grave deeper and deeper
@@kyrahgeib5140 i hope he just confesses and goes away forever so he doesn't hurt more people.
@@sinnamonroll2780 i domt think he will until like, maybe until he's in police custody. Its obvious he doesnt think hes done anything wrong and he thinks he is untouchable. But he knows he is not gonna be forgot and he loves it but also it terrified. We will see!!!
First thing I want him to hear in prison is "Big Willie said you done goofed." Oh please, please can that happen?
12:09 "The kids are the ones that suffer..." * quickly corrects himself * "ehh, the fans do.. Now do I make music for kids or teenagers? No."
Bruh, outed himself.. 🤷♀️
“The kids are the ones who suffer.” Yeah, he let that slip, then quickly realized it and tried to cover it by saying he doesn’t make music targeting kids. Riiiight. But the “kids are the ones who suffer” when his venues are shut down. If this guy wants me, a mature WOMAN, to believe that he targets his music towards older fans../he’s delusional. Not only can no one over 17 relate to his music, since once your turn 18 school is over, you’re no longer (legally) beholden to your parents, etc. but I would feel like a perve listening to this guy sing sick s*it about school and sex. Not only that, but you notice how CRUDE he is in everything relating sex. I wonder if he was sexually abused when he was younger, because he has a VERY UNHEALTHY relationship with sex and intimacy. This guy sounds so similar to other predators we know of - R. Kelly, Jeffree Epstein, etc. - in his behaviors, it’s as if there’s a training course out there for predators.
It’s PAST TIME for victims to be heard, to be defended, to be vindicated. PAST TIME. This guy needs to be held LEGALLY accountable and stopped from creating more victims, more survivors. Just give me 15 minutes alone with him...just 15 minutes. I’m 51 years old, so what can I do? Just 15 minutes face-to-face with him and all I’ll do is talk.
He has a sex addiction/narcissistic personality disorder and doesnt seem to care how old his victims are
For a whole lifetime of what he has done and with what his age is now I think a discussion with him would take more than 15 mins
Our society is built to cater to predators. There’s no training - they just use the system already in place that doesn’t believe victims and is happy to call people liars.
He's in Denver Colorado.
At least from the last I heard.
Yeah honestly I’m sure he was abused in some way. Definitely a couple loose screws.
I swear he has to be having plastic surgery. It’s like he’s trying to appeal to the younger kids by making himself look younger too. He definitely looked nervous in that video. :/
It really just seems like a combination of soft features, weight fluctuation, and jawline-concealing makeup.
that or he's heavily photoshopping his instagram posts. I think a mix of both. It's clearly asian filters
@@ApparentlyMe he got a smaller nose and jaw to fit the look of Asian filters, since he's trying to be "kawaii" now
"Elite Hair God?" More like, "Inferior Wig Imp"........
Creepy Weave Goblin
@@happycat4838 okay i just spat my coffee out
Brutal. I love it. 🖤
Wig imp -- lmao! 🤣🔥
it was probably his real hair in the beginning then it died bc he straightened and used too much hair spray that he started wearing wigs lmao
"mature women?" Wow.... He knows damn well the age of his fan base, and that's just how he liked it. I pray that he will go to prison.
Me too. California prisons don't play. They'd get him ;).
I was a victim to him when I wasn
14 for two on going years. He absolutely violated me, and its heartbreaking this is still going on. Please contact me for more information. I have witnesses and and this all happened in Houston tx and over virtual communication.
You should contact the FBI, its really help stop what hes doing
Maybe reach out to him on Twitter or Instagram? He's most likely more able to see it there. I'd also recommend getting in contact with whichever law enforcement is looking into him.
You NEED to come forward to have this man stopped. If not enough people come forward, perhaps he may get off the hook and be a repeat offender. It will also help you clear your burden, and have closure. This is especially important for when you get even older, and the weight can get heavy, and with the addition life’s problems, it’s not healthy weight. I’m a victim of abuse for two years, to a much older man, similar to this and I wish there was a way I could’ve prosecuted. Now it’s too late for me. I often wonder if by me not coming forward-that someone else’s life was tortured. Take care. Hugs ❤️
i’m so sorry.. please talk to someone
I am so sorry u was a victim. I hope u can heal. Stay strong ❤
when he was otp with that person's mom and really said he came in their child's mouth, my mouth actually DROPPED,,,,
When you as an adult realize that that Sexting song was huge part of your early teen years and lot of your peers loved it really speaks loudly about his songs being for "mature audience"
I wonder where the rest of the (emo) people on Myspace went? Everyone seems frozen in time.
I... We... Ua.... Grew up?
They got jobs at alt coffee shops
We still here
They became hipsters.
Kiki Kanibal and her sister became models in Japan
When I was in middle school, about 12 or 13 years old, I listened to BOTDF ( I have no idea why I liked their music ). I'm almost 20 now and all of this makes me so uncomfortable. I had no idea about all of this at the time, but I still feel really weird that I supported them.
same I had a bunch of merch he followed me on twitter it was just a weird time when i just had no music taste at all
when i was 10 i listened to one of their songs and liked it but every other song i thought was complete shit LMAO. so glad i never got into it. also super glad i never went to warped tour
Same :(
I FEEL YOU. I'm there right now omg and I'm also 20, I just can't... the humiliation.
@@ashley7515 fr they had like 3 good songs max everything else was HORRENDOUS
When I saw that everything everything with Dahvie was coming to light in 2020 and people were surprised, I kinda had this moment of confusion. Being alternative in BOTDF's hayday, people knew about the stuff he did and the Jessi Slaughter case. Dahvie was known to block every single person who confronted him and it became like a badge of honor to be blocked by him. In 2014, I remember a girl 2 years below me at school saying that she was obsessed with Dahvie and when we confronted her about the fact that he's a r*pist she said "I want to be r*ped by him" and went around saying it to everyone.
I'll say this, there was a predatory undertone in much of the emo/scene scene back then. And that's not me justifying Dahvie, or anyone else's actions, I'm saying that because that's why I surprised that anyone was shocked by the revelation.
If we take a look at Internet "celebrities" from back in the early 2010s, we find a pattern of predatory behaviour- Dahvie, Austin Jones, VeeOneEye, Onision.
There were a lot of older guys in the scene where I'm from that were the "heads" of an all ages friendship group that would prey on the alternative girls with self confidence and mental health issues. It was guys 16+ "dating" 11-13 year olds.
I first found Edwin though Onision. Onision collabed with Cyr and so did Edwin and that's how I found the SexyEdwin channel. If someone had told me in 2014 that everyone would hate Onision and that Edwin would become the voice of reason in a cesspit of legal troubles, I'd have been very confused. And I'm not sure how it happened but I'm glad that Edwin didn't end up in the wrong side of everything that happened
Same sadly with the whole PTV Mike thing but it all happened in 2017 and there’s no proof at all
@@Just_niaxx I completely missed the whole PTV thing. They were my favourite band at one point. I'll have to look into it.
@Just Me Dahvie was a very polarising character back in the day. He had a lot of people who knew that he was an issue but he also had people who were too in gravitated to him by the idea that they could be noticed and made to feel of worth by a "celebrity" that they supported him whole heartedly. People were horrendous to Jessi Slaughter and she was only 12 but people were telling her to harm herself and that they're going to harm her.
I see a lot of comments like “where were their parents??” & I think what you have to remember is most of this happened in like 2009-2012. It was a LOT different back then. I grew up in a relatively small town (population of like 3,000) & was allowed to walk around the entire town with my friends unattended at age 10. 90% of people I went to school with was allowed to do the same thing. It was just a different world back then.
Exactly it
At that age I wasn’t allowed to do ANYTHING alone or walk anywhere but I’m also from Phoenix where it’s frankly not as safe to and there was a lot of construction in my area, and I absolutely would NOT have been allowed to go to a show. I think part of it was the fact that the internet was so different- I knew not to let my parents know I was listening to BOTDF and I knew how to be sneaky. The internet was newer and parents knew less about it. I could definitely see my friends with less controlling parents than me being able to go bc their parents didn’t fact check anything or monitor their internet use- I think nowadays with parents knowing how to use the internet and an increase in cancel culture (both a good and bad thing- in dahvie’s case- good) this is a lot less likely to happen nowadays
2009-2012 I was out of high school and wasn't allowed to go to events like this because I was a minor until 2011. I could walk around my town alone and pretty much do whatever, but a concert hell no. That was just irresponsible parenting to let any minor attend these events without a parent or guardian.
Haha my mom would have been there with me, and I’m so happy I never went to one of those concerts
I grew up in the 2010's in a small town too, I only went around places if I were at my cousin's house as they were allowed to. But as for my household being alone is a mega hell no.
"You gear your music towards older audiences? No, honey, no." 😂 As a grown woman, I can honestly say I had no idea who this clown was until all of this stuff came out, but was around high school age when the band started gaining traction and their shirts were being sold at Hot Topic and younger girls at my school were listening to them. I didn't know who he was, but had heard of the band. Never got into them. Was too busy listening to actual music.
Fact's
I’ve binged a bunch of videos on this dude, and Edwin, you’ve by far done the most comprehensive, thorough break down of this subject. Thank you, and nice job! I’ve worked with journalists for years, and you def lived up to the Avenger title, with this, Avenger Edwin.
Thank you, Jeremy! Organizing/putting this into a digestible piece was so difficult but I'm so pleased that it's being received well :)
@@edwinsgeneration you always do a thorough job Edwin. We thank you
What has me baffled is how these underage girls were even able to go to these shows. Did their parents not know about Dahvie's type of music ?
most likely not. when i was younger and into alternative bands id beg my mom to let me go with my friends and often times we'd be the first ones in line by ourselves for hours(like 8 hours+ sometimes). very dangerous and wish i wouldn't have been allowed to in hindsight.
Were you ever a teenager?
@@JMiN___ ya'll need more attentive parents. I just turned 20 and my mom would've never let me go to a concert like BOTDF when I was 10-15 years old. So irresponsible on the parent's end.
Scene and emo were REALLY edgy. It was forced in every aspect of the style. Not saying it was by any means okay but a lot of us didnt know how wrong it was...we were just kids who wanted to be unique, and have fun and many of our parents just didnt care to get involved. The music was absolute garbage and that's why its genre didnt last. I think most parents were just trying to make their tortured sad emo kids happy by letting them have these things. At the start of the scene social media was also really new. I think since then most parents have really learned of the damage over the years. Sexism and assault run deep in rock genres and is often time overlooked because of groupie culture. I miss the style like hell but it's a good thing this all died out.
Yeah what parent would pay for such shitty music?
Korn was the first band I saw live. I was maybe 12-13
I also saw Slipknot, tool, cradle of filth, etc at a very young age
I never felt anything other than safe at these events
I'm only about 6 minutes in but the best part of this has to be Edwin reading out/ singing the lyrics to these songs XD
I subscribed after that lol.
“This was geared to a mature audience” but also has lyrics saying “avoiding the parentals” like wtf
It’s sorta weird to me how many “alternative” previously “scene” or “emo” influencers and youtubers are suddenly coming out outraged about this. This was STANDARD. All shocking phrases and insults and the inappropriate behavior was standard in the counter culture. I’m not mad it’s being called out, I’m mad you’re acting shocked like this is news to you.
I feel like a lot of people who were teenagers at the time didn’t realize it, even if it was obvious.
Cause if you came out about it back then the slash gash terror crew will come after ur page and spam u, they were the barbs and beyhive of that time
Wow at 19:13. I never knew Jefree star said that. I literally just ordered my first product from JS yesterday. I’m so heartbroken and angry to give him my business. Anyone who makes fun of special needs people are absolutely repulsive. I will be returning my lip glosses. I remember JS vaguely from MySpace but didn’t pay attention to him till Shane’s video series and I thought wow this guy rebranded himself and changed but seeing how he lies a lot and inserts himself in all drama makes me feel so dumb and easily fooled. I also hate Trisha Paytas and Shane is a big supporter of her too. Makes me question Shane honestly. Who you keep around as your company saids a lot about you.
Sucks to hear him say that from my end too. I was never a fan, but I have a younger brother who was into that whole genre who has autism, he'd be hurt to hear those words from someone he likes.
You must remember that this was long ago and he was young. He have since then apologized numerous times and I think people have to forgive and know that we all make mistakes and try to learn and grow from it.
I have ADHD and my son to and we of all should know that tings can be said in the moment when young without thinking. But that doesn't mean that we should hold that against them 10 years later.
Erika Böndergaard nah
Erika Böndergaard In this day and age (not 10 yrs later but right now), he is claiming he never saw Dahvie commit any sexual crimes against underage girls when there are videos showing Jeffery witnessing Dahvie sexually harassing underage girls. He doesn’t deserve forgiveness when he’s intentionally defending a child predator, just so he doesn’t look like the bad guy and people don’t see him as somebody who witnessed predatory behaviour and did nothing to stop it. He hasn’t learned from his mistakes if he continues lying despite evidence proving otherwise.
There are videos of him saying the n word too. He’s vile. He also named his first makeup brand “lipstick nazi” and promoted the brand by posing with swaztikas and self harm wounds that were apparently real.
Back when I went through my emo phase, I didn’t dare give this band a more than a second to listen to their music. I was really questioning life that is that what the emo kids jam to? This ain’t it. Then I proceeded to listen to my daily My Chemical Romance.
YAS GIRL! Gerard would NEVER
Girl same !
Good. MCR is 100 times better musically and Gerard Way is a fucking king
Lol my friend and I were both emo back in the day and used to roast his shitty ass music 😭
I still listen to MCR when I get In that mood
Your face whilst listening to his ‘music’ is priceless.
Right on
I saw someone call this dude Rawr Kelly and it sent me
When he says “when I was asking for bras onstage, I was asking them from mature, older women, I wasn’t asking them from teenagers” I got a flashback to the Blaire White/Onision debate where Greg just kept saying he likes underdeveloped women, but then backtracked and said “I like a variety of mature women. Just because they’re not developed doesn’t mean they’re not mature.”
I would say this guy is worse than Greg, but both are pieces of absolute garbage who should be in prison.
I don’t know, I don’t get the hype for Dahvie. I was part of the MySpace 2006/07 scene cringe, but even my group of friends did not like BOTDF. The music is trash. And that’s coming from someone who unironically listened to BrokeNCYDE and Millionaires for a while. Lol
also dahvie: *proceeds to ask for a hello kitty bra*
My god. If I was that young attending this kind of ‘concert’, my mother would drag my ass right back home. It’s so disgusting, and those lyrics 😂
I have an ex who was abused by Dahvie. To this day, she doesn't want to talk about it to anyone cuz of the way it makes her feel and she'd rather pretend it didn't happen at all. I just happened to meet her right at the end of the whole affair and it was her need to vent to someone that I turned a sympathetic ear to and we started a friendship (it wasn't until years later that it became more, then mutually established we make better friends than lovers so are still on good terms but thus the "ex" part). After everything she said though....
I want nothing more than to take a supersoaker full of 3 week old hobo piss and spray him as he comes off a tour bus.
I've had relationships with women who had problems. Never ended up in jail
As a woman with mental issues, no one I’ve hooked up with has ever ended up in jail either, I don’t follow why he thinks that’s just a thing that happens.
Ive been witha crazy chick for 4 years. Ive been in jail for her crazy shit.
@@AlienRsrchPrjct Fucking run, bro.
You are the most reliable youtuber for stuff like this
You dont seem at all bias at all and you are great at finding evidence and showing it without rehashing the same information everyone else is showing
You back up everything you say.
Top tier youtuber
Edit: you brought a lot of ne info to my attention
I went to one of his shows back in 2010 in Virginia Beach, Jeffrey star was there the whole crew and their was lots and lots of underage girls. He legit was all over everyone he ate that shit up like candy!! He’s such a liar if he said he didn’t know girls are underage , he was pretty much in the crowd meeting everyone after the show was over.
Even Mötley Crüe knows how to behave smh
and he ate a bat so that says something about him😭😭😭
No they don't
@@alex-pr6fp ozzy ate the bat lol unless this is a joke and I don't get it
The clip of him n tht girl is them 100% them getting caught. Thts exactly how i used to look wen my parents caught me kissing my bf.
time stamp?
diana 24:53
No? Lmao we were doing a shoot. What exactly would we get caught doing in a public hallway anyways? 🤔
LMFAO he was at the San Diego zoo and NO, he looks just so bad in person
I honestly thought it was a joke about him looking like a fat zebra... my bad...
And they let him out?!
Does he live in San Diego now?
Have a great day! No, I’m pretty sure he still lives with his parents in Florida...bc he is still a fucking loser in his 30’s! 🤣
Have a great day! Idk, he might. I saw him just before the shut down. He's probably in Florida right now. He was spotted in a hotel with an underage girl pretty recently.
He's so old he thinks # still means phone number
🤣 😂 😆 and he’s still on dial up and not on wifi 🤣
It's said he wears makeup and such to retain a more youthful look, a way to lure young girls.
Ishiru Taekakura it’s said that it’s cheap so if you throw water on him it will melt off 🤣 😂 😆