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@Destiny I’m sorry but Ethan isn’t as much of a lefty as I once thought. Hasan is more of a lefty than Ethan… the leftist today are pro Palestine… leftist are more us vs them mentality than we see people of the center and the center right from my perspective. This doesn’t look good on hasan since he said radical shit like america deserve 9/11 soon and so forth have ties to Arab ancestry and show constant favoritism to his own origins… look at how he shit on European countries for everything regarding middle Eastern projections with Arab and Muslim based backgrounds. Hasan is Turkish first and use his blood relation to Greeks as an excuse to act out horrible acts… Have you seen what hasan liked on twitter? It reflects what he relates to or likes mentally. He is very much like he musli neo nationalist Turkish who exists to this day who also followed the same mentality as the Muslims and Arabs who pushed for the araynian (forgive bad spelling I’m studying while writing this so I had little time) genocide… Hasan believes any bullshit against Israel… the Iranian doctor literally don’t care about e lives lost… this act claiming the people that are actual citizens of Israel as “settlers” is bullshit claims because this group of people didn’t start acting like this until the 1970s… They lost their land because the results of world war 2 fair and square. Germany also lost and had to let go of all those countries they had control over. Israel was created as a result. The people committing these acts on are 40 at oldest not anywhere as old as the people who would have lived in israel back in the 1940s He claims the Israelis are far right to claim justifying the death of Israelis because he panders to leftists… hasan is subhuman when he makes these arguments. Hasan probably claimed people weren’t raped and claimed the babies weren’t beheaded as well to deny any reality to fit his world narrative. Hasan abuses all forms of history to justify violence and harm to other people.
"I'm glad we spent 2 hours talking about how evil Israel is." "Yeah man, me too. Okay let's talk about Hamas now" "No because it's irrelevant and doesn't matter" "okay how about we talk about people who support Hamas" "Oh that doesn't matter either. Nothing you bring up matters. Only what I bring up matters" - Hamasabi
it's not even that supporting terror attacks is what bothers me. Those lefties are building an entire narrative around the occupation and "freedom fighters", but they didn't ask Hamas what is its mission and why did it perform this giant massacre. Hamas mission statement is to destroy the state of Israel completely, kill the jews in the Jihad and to establish the Islamic state (a.k.a ISIS) on the entire land. I kid you not. Gaza is not under occupation, Israel has completely withdrawn in 2005 and gave it to the Palestinians. The reason for the massacre, according to Hamas, is "to free the Al-Aqsa mosque" (from non-muslims) in Jerusalem.
Why are you endlessly bringing up the Israelis casualties? That hurts the Palestinian(tm) brand, bro. Now let me talk endlessly about the grievances of Palestinians.
you know why is irrelevant to talk about Hamas now? BECAUSE THE F**** IDF IS CARRYING A STREAM LIVE GENOCIDE OVER GAZA, that's why. You know what people said when Hamas was doing the raid? "it doesn't matter what Israel did before, this is now, this massacre is happening now, are you supporting Hamas?" so it goes the same now, because the moment Hamas started doing the raid, the first thing the IDF did was send missiles to Gaza, they didn't even try to rescue their own people from the Hamas raid, they wait a full day before starting sending troops to the south, but the bombs over Gaza? those were there an hour after the first attack. but hey, it's more important to talk about Hasan's feelings and whatever bs he is talking about, priorities I guess
What were Palestinians suppose to do? I’m not admonishing them; just want to know what you personally think they should do; being on the prisoner end (Palestine- with no money and nowhere to go to) versus the worlds most powerful and influential demographic (Israelis/ Jews). Israel needs to take personal responsibility towards this situation. The have all the power and agency in this situation whereas the Palestinians have nothing. It was obvious it was going to get explosive. There’s only so many times you can “turn the other cheek”.
For hasan to cry then later to discredit ethan and laugh about it is so unbelievably disrespectful i do not blame ethan for pausing leftovers with hasan.
Baby settlers is the most insane and despicable thing ive ever heard in my life. Coming from people who pride themselves on being the good guys fighting for the oppressed is just peak.
They are straight up working backwards from the event. "Oh you hurt a bunch of kids? Well uh those kids were the children of bad people, they no longer should have your sympathy."
@@TheFatalcrest lots of word games democrats are glossing over. Palestine instead of Gaza. Settlers where there are no settlers, unless you don't think Israel has a right to exist then they are all settlers and colonizers. And we are decades down the long democrat road of vilifying colonizers and settlers. So just like jew hatred in Germany in the 1930s found fertile ground, this whole colonizer settler thing is now being down on fertile ground. Only way to combat it is to meet it head on. Otherwise you're weak just like Ethan.
The baby settlers term is literally the same thing the right says about illegal immigrants here in the states. Man this horseshoe in politics couldn't be more obvious
Hasan snickering, being condescending and making sarcastic jokes while his jewish friend is in pain and trying to explain why it's important to show empathy to both sides. Some people truly are immune to humanity
Its funny when its "innocent Palestinian 20 year old children" are on the screen, hasan cries like a little baby. But when its "evil white new Yorker Israeli settlers" its "oh they're oppressing marginalized people" there's not enough bleach for that manlet
@@IRepko Exactly. It sucks because besides Destiny and his community there doesn’t seem to be many people online who aren’t completely radicalized to the far-right or far-left.
@@IRepko As a capitalist who largely agrees with 90% of Destiny's policy positions, this past week has moved me further left. I will no longer considering to vote for Joe Biden or Donald Trump as long as they keep supporting Netanyahu's corrupt administration. Cornel west is the only candidate with a spine. Liberals who said they hated what America did to the natives and what Hitler did to the jews are actively cheering on the ethnic cleansing of the palestinian people. Even tucker carlson is calling for de-escalation but liberal and neocon congressmen freaks are calling to nuke Iran yet destiny focuses on the fringe minority of left wing content creator making reactionary comments who hold no power in society.
innocent people aka settler colonialists in an ethno-state, who are there because of mythologycal fantasy beliefs about being superior to everyone else and god's chosen
@fallsunset5862 context matters, like what was your comment about? Are you pointing out Hasan agreeing with Ethan or downplaying his point? Is Hasan taking offense to ethan's statement or to the disrespect Ethan was mentioning? Was your first reply calling your statement fake news or Hasan taking offense? Or the situation being discussed in general? Was your reply saying that they were attacked just for existing, and did nothing wrong? Or are you saying the only thing wrong they did was exist? I had to comment this because the I was actually confused by the first reply and your response, cuz its like there was more of a conversation but it was erased.
One group is fighting with modern advanced tech and artillery while the other side has sticks and stones…. It’s not a fair fight and never has been. And then make up a story about babies being beheaded?! Fuck them and free Palestine
This whole conversation was like watching an abusive relationship. One person is in pain, open to hearing the other side's issues, but ultimately just wants to be heard empathically. Hasan responds with the coldest, hand-wavy remarks to even the egregious indefensible Second Thought comments. You could tell Ethan came away very dissatisfied with the responses, but gaslights himself into thinking he just needs to be MORE good faith to these disgusting people who won't even give an INCH of empathy for innocent civilians. A week ago, regardless of Destiny's hatred for Hasan, I was largely indifferent. I now actively despise him and am genuinely concerned that he's such an infuencial figure. This guy is a literal sociopath.
He just started proving Destiny's point from the Taiwan debate. Hasan would put people in re-education camps and kill them if they kept disagreeing with him. He has the mindset of someone who justifies murder for his own benefit.
"I'm tired of Ethan acting like the morality police" This situation hits Ethan personally because he is married to Hila, who he met in Israel, he also lived in Israel as well and has dual citizenship. Hila's family lives in Israel as well. Also him and Hila have both stated that they are against the Israeli government and that the leader is horrible and that they are also pro palestine, just not Humas. People don't actually pay attention to anything.
Ok so what's your point? Being against acts of terror, but being also against isreal backing for more supplied weapons and land grabs is totally reasonable.
@@David-mz8xkthe point is both sides have awful way of dealing with their disputes get rid of the zionists and Hamas and you have the possibility of both sides having an agreement to become one state since that land has a lot of history of conflicting religions and having peaceful times it doesn’t take a logical empathic scientist to resolve the conflict something like your pea sized brain can’t handle your a extremest that likes the idea to murder civilians that want to exist.
@@kevaughnramsay9846 Hasan is a proud communist. The communist manifesto blames Jews for Capitalism (with no Citation of how they're responsible) and Hitlers Garbage pair of books Quote it directly. The communist manifesto literally sais Jews should be "Exterminated." Hasan's fans hating Ethan is no surprise. Commies are just Nazi's but enemployed.
Sure, Bro. But, a week after I posted this comment, Ethan Klein comes out and cancels Leftovers because of Hassan's anti-Semitic fans. He still loves Hassan though. @@kevaughnramsay9846
Watching Hasan manipulate and gaslight Ethan into apoligizing was insane to watch. I am just glad a strong, proud woman such as destiny was able to come to his defense.
He also said Ethan needs to take responsibility for folding so easily He needs to grow a backbone. Ethan wants so hard to look like he's the good guy and stay friends with Hasan that he allowed Hasan to possibly radicalize a huge audience. This is Ethans channel not Hassan but it's hard to tell the difference at this point.
I’m middle eastern. Half Palestinian.. and I gotta say destiny’s audience is some of the most centrist annoying biased ass losers of any fanbase I’ve seen. These comments are so frustrating as somebody who’s directly affect by this as well as my family and friends.
I hope Destiny does watch the full thing eventually, it’s kinda unbelievable to see Ethan get gaslit by Hasan and Dan into thinking he’s being the unreasonable one in the conversation. Ethan throughout the conversation showed insane sympathy toward both sides of the conflict and Hasan showed it toward only one.
After Dan showed himself to be a Hasan simp everything that has come from his mouth related to politics has been tankie bullshit. Watching Hasan leads you to brainrot, I now despise all the losers in this community that insisted that Hasan was a "net positive".
So so so glad to see someone talk about this as a Jewish fan of both Ethan and Hasan. I haven’t been able to watch hasan since the 7th because the way he talks about it makes me so upset, and you can’t even correct him when he makes factually/historically incorrect statements because you will get attacked by his pro Hamas fans
I'm not Jewish but I relate so much. I'm so disappointed in Hasan and other leftist commentators I used to look up to. Israel's actions don't justify antisemitism and terrorism.
I don’t like Ethan but it makes me genuinely sad that Hasan won’t give him any concessions or even just say “yeah, friend, I understand your perspective and it’s valid.” At every turn Hasan has to twist and manipulate, browbeating Ethan into agreeing with his horrible takes until Ethan just gives in. Such a terrible human.
Ethan needs to understand that if he and/or Hila had been visiting family in Israel on 10/7 and had been killed by Hamas, Hasan would not shed a single tear and the only thing stopping him from gloating would be the bad optics.
I think that's incorrect. He's pretty even headed. I think he is very Ottoman oriented in the thinking, mainly overlooking radicalization. But he'd never support Hamas, but up to this attack Hamas had done relatively little. In fact they were favored by Netanyahus party over other orgs
Occupation has been happening for 56 years or however long. Hamas has only existed for 30 years or so… This should immediately tell you that Hamas are the symptom, not the disease. Like many other examples, oppression has a tendency of giving rise to terrorism
This leftovers podcast was the first time I've listened to Hasan for an extended amount of time. I couldn't make it past an hour. The guy ego debated Ethan on every single point. I don't believe in that hour he ever came close to agreeing with anything Ethan said, while Ethan conceded every single time to try and have some empathy for the other side. I did my best to avoid Hasan for years, it's so unbelievably depressing to see that's what so many people listen to everyday. He was a propaganda machine with no empathy to offer Ethan and Hila. It felt so frustrating watching Ethan trying and failing repeatedly to get a shred of sympathy out of him, I just had to stop listening.
You just know if Hasan had been a guest on that episode of the tankie podcast, he would have let those comments from the other two slide - and maybe even joined in himself - and that would have been the end of his stint on Ethan's podcast. I wish that was this timeline instead of a different one.
Hasan's chat spamming paraglider emojis while the dude in the video praises "killing hipsters" tells you everything you need to know. All while lots of mods(teal blue names) are present and have zero issues with it. Ethan will probably snap out of sooner or later but make no mistake, this is the bed he made on his own, he has nobody to blame for ignoring the red flag.
Hasan's Discord chat was being absolutely vile the entire time oh my god. Ethan should really open his eyes and realise what kind of audience Hasan brings to him.
Ethan: 'the right are all racists and nazies' The left: 'we are going to exterminate the jews!' Ethan: wait, wut I used to be left once. I did not leave the left. The left left me. Now, the only ones giving a rats arse about actual leftwing ideals: is (drumrol) the right.
When the video was showing the terrorist supporters chanting to gas the Jews, and Hasan's discord was saying, "What's wrong with this video Ethan" or "This looks fake" or "Ethan is being brain dead about this." That got me angry. I try not to let others influence my mood, but holy shit, these people are the scum of the earth. And to see it being said so openly without shame is insane.
@@rambo3rd471same here. Just to think there are discord servers filled with cringey 15 year olds who follow Hasan and his kind unironically and are so brainwashed just pisses me off
Ethan: 'But I thought we where friends!' Muslim: 'The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.' You know the story of the snake and the river? An other animal (cant remember which one) gave the snake a ride acros the river, hoping they would then be friends. But afterwards, the snake bites the animal, and while the animal dies, it asks: why? and the snake says: because I am a snake.
Where in the new testament does it say to kill anyone? How many people did Jesus kill himself? Hmm? How come when I show you the direct call to arms in the quran/hadith, and show you the blood it causes, you say: 'but what about....' ?@@messi-mk3cq Yes, what about christianity? Is it perfect? No. Did it kill people? Sure. But you can reform christianity: by asking 'what would jesus do'. He would not hurt a fly. Hence why christianity is no longer killing people. But you cant do that in islam, can you? Because the order to violence is coming directly from allah, and the example of the prophet, who himself KILLED MANY PEOPLE.
It’s honestly so sad to see Ethan just let Hasan completely dominate this conversation. Hasan is such a difficult person for me to even listen to for more than 5 minutes. How does one become so callous and insensitive?
When you think you are absolutely correct without a shadow of a doubt, those who oppose you are evil, and don’t deserve moral consideration. Whether it be Fascism or socialism, selective empathy is disgusting.
Hasan just wants to be popular. he wants the attention. he is addicted to the spot light. it's why he has openly admit to being a propagandist when asked in the past and why many of his takes on stream are always hate mongering and fear mongering, and why when actually engaging with another human he restarts and ums alot so he can have time to find a way to sound like he's agreeing while actively undermining the other person. actual scum worse than vaush if only because his reach is so much larger
“There are baby settlers” is beyond the pale. These people lose their mind over defending identities that you’re born with. People who are born in colonial civilizations also do not choose. That doesn’t make them a viable target of retaliation.
it's just hypocritical bullshit coming from a proud Turk - his people are occupying Anatolian Greek land. By his own reasoning if the Greeks were to rise up and butcher the Muslims of Turkic origin, it wouldn't be murder because they aren't civilians
@@OmniDan26 Babies are born innocent. Someone born to parents who are settlers did not choose to be born in that situation. If your conclusion of settler civilizations is “they’re all evil” you’re both dumb and inconsistent.
@OmniDan26 So it's ok to kill babies because they might grow up to be combatants? That's really the stance you're taking? The ones who aren't going to grow up to be combatants just get to die, too, i guess? Then i guess its fine for Israeli to kill babies as well and attempt to wipe out every Palestinian baby because they might be a combatant one day?
Bro nobody is calling for Jewish genocide, Palestinians and even Hamas don't want to genocide the Jews. The only thing they want is the end of decades of Palestinian subjugation. But let's take a look at what Israel wants. They have emphatically rejected a Palestinian state for 16 years now. Netenyahu does NOT want to stop occupying the West Bank. And the death numbers of Palestinians in the recent conflict are up to 20,000 or more. The Israeli casualties are 1,400. So who is really calling for genocide here? Could it be the overwhelmingly stronger force that is the IDF and the Israeli prime Minister who refuses to end illegal occupation and refuses to stop killing tens of thousands of women and children?
It was his decision to set his credibility on fire to appeal to people that very much want to kill his people. It was also his decision to say Ben Shapiro deserved to die first because Ethan really thought it was Ben who was playing with fire and not himself. Ethan gets the audience he fostered. All I'll say is that it is insincere of him to appeal to people's humanity after rejecting that very thing for years. Maybe his old audience would have heard him out, but he hates that old audience and fostered this new one. Maybe he should have thought about that a bit more.
@@LB-py9ig Yep, it's always easy to beg for empathy when you're the one under the boot. It's how you act when you aren't that matters, and Ethan showed his true colors long ago.
Yeah well, this is what happens when you let insane Lefties from Hasan's orbit intermingle with your own audience. Their ideas fester & permeate throughout H3H3's more moderate/progressive fanbase. This is entirely self-inflicted.
@@TheBakuganmaster99 despite the name of the movement, Antifa's ideology has no problem with authoritarian facism as long as their camp gets to make the rules that are enforced.
Tankies aren’t fascists. Tankies are authoritarian communists/socialists. Calling tankies fascists is a trick that online leftists like Vaush like to pull a lot in an attempt to sanitize socialism and communism and absolve these ideologies from the fact that yes, socialism and communism are authoritarian, often totalitarian, and do often lead to immense suffering, just like fascism.
It's justified in the same way slaves broke free and revolted against their masters and beat the crap out of their masters. Why feel bad for karma taking its course?
@@counselorguy5481Are you really comparing children to fucking slave masters? They didn’t do anything to anyone besides exist in a place that was taken violently. It’s horrible what Israel did but leave children out of it.
@@counselorguy5481No it’s not. Slaves killing masters is clearly different from Hamas killing civilians. Civilians who are not involved in oppressing Palestinians are not guilty for oppressing Palestinians. And even if one granted that Israel is oppressing Palestinians, that is in no way morally equivalent to full-blown chattel slavery.
Could you explain how there is an equivalence between slaves killing their masters and this situation? Palestinians are now "slaves" of Israel, apparently? Stop making shit up as you go. It's not working for you and it just makes you look stupid. @@counselorguy5481
Ethan is way too understanding, he needs to understand that those aren't his friends, and he has ABSOLUTLEY every reason, as a Jew and Israeli with a family in Israel, to ask every small detail for the solution they have towards the conflict. They have absolutley abused his already bad mental state coming into this.
@@kikiknojjI know you’re joking but honestly, seeing how Ethan just caved to hasan really made me think about the H-caust & how so many ppl caved bc it was the easiest thing to do 😢
@@scarletsletter4466alway bring up H to victimize yourself. That done work on us, it was the european who did not. That doest give u people the right to colonize palestine
It's still absolutely wild to me that Hasan isn't perma banned for defending genocide after genocide while Steven got perma banned for arguing against trans women in women's sports
Simple, Hasan brings in the moolah and he cannot be cancelled as he is the epitome of leftism, the biggest hypocrite of them all "fighting the good fight". No need to remind you most content creators are lefties, especially in the English speaking vtuber category, so if they banned Hasan then there would be major backlash for Twitch and Amazon would have to find new left brain rot puppets to run the place.
yea dude, i thought the same fucking thing. Wild is an understatement. It's the equivalent of Reckful getting banned on Twitch for taking his shirt off, while hundreds of girls were spreading eagle in hot tubs with immunity. Just makes no fuckin sense.
This was a frustrating watch. I'm struggling to see how Ethan even considers Hasan a "friend" after all this and the gaslighting toward the end was nothing short of disgusting. Got REALLY difficult to make it through the end of this video.
I’m a reformed tankie (it’s so embarassing lol) and I think the thing that finally made me reconsider was just that it felt like not only did they discourage you from showing basic human empathy for your “enemies”, they punished you for it. the fact that they’re not even trying to empathize with Ethan at all, even when he was crying for the Palestinian dad, shows they’ve replaced their humanity with a very stupid and cringe ideology. It’s very dangerous, I was extremely unhinged the entire time that I was a communist
Ethan empathized more for the Palestinians than Hasan with his NPC talking points did. Didn't he fake cry too later in the show so he doesn't appear like a psychopath? Lmao.
I really wish someone with a sane brain could talk to ethan long enough to let him know he doesn't have to associate with completely batshit morons. I legitimately can't believe what I'm watching right now.
*If you take Ethan and Hasan out of it, and just look at what transcribed, what do you think the average sane person would conclude to the questions below in bold ?* MR.X watched a stream ,live, (communicating with the streamers in a friendly fashion in the chat) of a person stating that all Israelis are settlers, so therefore it's okay to kill all of them. MR.Y then brings up said live stream to MR.X on their podcast, and MR.X won't concede that this statement is evil. MR.X later states that there are in fact baby settlers in Israel. *Do you think MR.X thinks that all Israli's are settlers, including babies ? And do you think MR.X thinks, that you should be allowed to kill all Israeli settlers, including "Baby settlers" because they are in fact settlers ?* *Again if you look at what has transcribed, what do you think the average sane person would conclude to the questions below in bold* MR.X has a community, that responded to the statements made on the previously referred to live stream as "based", "Giga Chad" and "correct" etc etc, and attacked MR.Y for disagreeing with the statements made on said live stream. MR.X has not made any announcement to ban said people, or made an announcement that such behaviour is wrong. *Do you think that MR.X believes that the actions of his community is acceptable ? And if so why do you think, he thinks such behaviour is acceptable ?* *From here on I will follow the same format of showing what transcribed, and then proposing a question in bold to the average sane person* Hamas had just killed a large number of Israeli citizens in some of the most horrendous ways possible, a person on the live stream MR.X and MR.Y are watching together, states that the Israeli hostages will be treated fairly and humanely, and MR.X responds by saying "He's not wrong on this" *Do you think MR.X is defending Hamas in bad faith here, considering the horrific things Hamas just did ? Why do you think MR.X would defend Hamas in such bad faith, and knowingly lie to defend them ?* On the stream being watched, a person states that they do not care that Israeli citizens were taken hostage (After Israeli citizens had just been killed in the most horrific way) and laughs about it, to which MR.X responds by referring to Israli's as fundamentalist settlers, and then refers to an international law, and states that these acts are legal because of that law. And then asks MR.Y if he would agree, that this law is morally correct. *Do you think MR.X is defending these actions ? Why do you think MR.X would defend these actions ? Why would MR.X ask MR.Y if he believes this law is morally correct ?* What law, states that it's legal to massacre civilians, and even babies ? *Why would MR.X knowingly make up such a law, which clearly doesn't exist ?* MR.X then states, that he does not, agree, that every single Israeli is in fact a settler, as others do, because he thinks it's not a reasonable solution, and will only lead to Palestinians being harmed because far right Israelis will use that as political fuel for their bombing campaigns (indicating that MR.X does not believe that Palestine can achieve a complete take over of Israel) *Do you think MR.X thinks branding all Israelis settlers is not a good idea, because it's wrong or immoral, or because doing so would tactically backfire against Palestine ? Do you think if Palestine could in fact take over all of Israel, MR.X would think that it is a good idea to brand all Israeli settlers ? If so, do you think, that MR.X thinks that it would be a good idea to kill all Israeli citizens, if Palestine had the capability to do so, since he referred to a law that justifies such actions, of massacring settlers?* MR.Y then states that the person in the live stream, is evil for thinking all Israeli people are settlers, so it's therefore morally okay, and justified to kill them all, and MR.X replies by, exhaling and tilting his head. *Do you think MR.X is considering, or trying to appear as if he is considering, if that is in fact evil or not ? And if MR.X is doing this publicly in front of a large audience, whilst sitting next to MR.Y, who is Jewish, and "his friend" that privately, he most likely does not think it's evil to hold such a view ?* MR.X then states "If this was happening in 1949 I would have a different opinion on the matter, but you can't say this in 2023" *Do you think that this means that MR.X thinks that in 1949, it would be morally okay to massacre every single Israeli ? And considering his previous remarks, do you think the only reason, why you can't "say this in 2023" is because, again, it would tactically backfire on Palestine ? And do you think the beliefs that it would be okay to say in 1949, because it possibly wouldnt' have backfired on Palestine, and that such a statement would be tactically possible to achieve ?* *Do you think that based on all this, that it is very sad, but MR.X is an evil person who need serious, serious prolonged therapy ? And if so, is it not the case, that something seriously horrendous must of happened to him in his life, as people just don't think this kind of stuff for no reason, like something very horrific happening during his childhood, whether it be physically, mentally or emotionally, and do you think we should all earnestly, and truly hope MR.X does get the therapy he needs, as clearly you can't think these things and not be absolutely scared, miserable, lost and severely troubled ?* There is obviously a lot more stuff that MR.X does, and states later in the podcast with MR.Y, that in many ways is a lot worse. Such as what you pointed out, laughing about the whole event in Israel etc, and defending people who are celebrating it etc etc etc, but I will leave it here, I think.
I’ve been trying not to use the word “hate” anymore because I don’t feel like I can actually hate another person, but Hasan is really making it hard for me not to.
Both sides have crap military but provocation from Israel is far more intense than the reaction of Hamas(not justifiable tho), but its the opposite in your scenario.
@@snehan8997 I understand both sides have been provocateurs, but Israel has made efforts to peace . It pulled out of Gaza in 2005 , it removed settlers and Jewish graves . The missiles from Hamas never cease . Israel could have returned fire but built the iron dome for defense. How can Israel make peace with Hamas when Hamas wants the death of all Jewish people. It’s obvious not just the land . They don’t feel the same about Egypt . So your thinking isn’t bad it’s just not informed, go and read up some
You just know if Hasan had been a guest on that episode of the tankie podcast, he would have let those comments from the other two slide - and maybe even joined in himself - and that would have been the end of his stint on Ethan's podcast. I wish that was this timeline instead of a different one.
The problem with Ethans concession at the end is that none of these lefty losers are saying any of this digusting shit out of anger, they acrually believe it. God ethan is so close to seeing through the facade of empathy Hasan like to put on so that he can seem agreeable with whoever hes talking at but Ethan just wants to preserve the freindship. Its so parallel to what happened with destiny and hasan and i think ethan might start to relize the toxic audience hes let into his community bc of Hasans dog whistles
i hope Ethan sees this video. i can only imagine the euphoria i'd feel watching someone call out the bullshit and realize i'm not crazy for feeling disturbed by the behavior shown by these leftists.
i remember one time i tweeted about left wing fascism being a thing and people dogpiled on me as if i was insane . im however not necessarily relieved to see i was proven right loll
he's on Twitter, and there it's extremely popular to be pro-hamas. I think he feels overwhelmed with that + Hasan + Hasan's stupid fans gaslighting him. I just can't watch him being treated like a child by Hasan while HE is the one who lived there for 5 years and has the knowledge
I think ethan was most likely caught off guard at how dismissive and insensitive he was to Israeli victims, especially when Ethan started off the episode with condemning and crying for Palestine people. Hasan is so disgusting like ugh his whole attitude was gross.
I still hope one day Ethan and Destiny get together and discuss how crazy this chapter has been for Ethan, and how Destiny went through a similar split with his audience and Hasan.
I'm looking forward to Destinys complete red pill moment. I'm watching a lot of him and he's getting closer and closer to the realization that his team (democrats) are far worse than the other 2 thirds of the country. Closer and closer. The more he hangs out with Ryan grim, Emma vigland and vaush, and the more he watches stuff like this, the closer he gets to that epiphany
Hasan believes in anything that absolves him and his filthy rich tanky friends of accountability for anything, and in anything that assigns maximum accountability to everyone else for anything they do regardless of how small or how many times they did it. He is a sociopath.
There is a point where a person has to realize that a person you consider a friend would laugh and point if you were killed over your ethnicity. That you would deserve it. At that point, you just need to cut off all contact.
@@kongvinter33 It has nothing to do with genetics. He’s a poorly read communist, a woke narcissist, a literal racist, and an overgrown spoiled millennial brat. That’s aaaallllll nurture. The first three make him dangerous, and the last one makes him infuriating AND dangerous.
You have to get a kick out of how much Hasan is leaning on ~international law~ to justify Hamas' behavior, but brings up _Hamas'_ violations (like hiding rocket launchers behind citizens) of the Geneva Convention precisely zero times.
I am no longer a fan of his. I gave him the benefit of the doubt at first but this is completely changed my view of him. I don't consider anyone who defends Hamas leftists.
Hassan has won the social media game of terrible takes. He always manages to out do his last terrible take. We might be in the territory of evil takes.
More people need to make content ousting Hasan for all the double standards and bullshit he did over the years. There's got to be so much material. All the takes on USSR etc. he never cared for oppressed countries. Only the ones that suit his narrative.
Might be? Bro he's clapping and cheering for families being massacred, children watching their parents executed in front of them, their siblings murdered in front of them...... The things Hasan and his buddies were calling "BASED" were just unbelievably awful, my fucking soul is forever branded with some of the videos I saw, and he's clapping for it. It's not maybe in the territory of evil, we are well beyond holocaust denial at this point, because at least they're pretending it didn't happen and not celebrating 6 million dead jews.....the far left is celebrating dead children, they're not pretending it's a false flag to hide their evil, they're saying "yes it happened and we're really really happy about it."
Wait, what exactly are you referring to? which videos were they watching? Was it the same guys from a video where hasan and them talk about how all israeli citizens are basically "military" because they all have to serve in the army or some shit?@@tooitchy
Hasan also wanted extreme lockdowns on the working class during covid. He has 0 principles and supported the biggest wealth transfer upwards we saw and the inflation now.
I’ve never seen someone squirm so much on a podcast. Honestly, hats off to Hasan for his ability to be utterly obtuse and cowardly in his defense of terrorism.
you should watch the full thing hasan was far more knowledgeable on the topic and ethan would just bring up random ass tweets and not real historical context on the conflict so it was laughable
@@saraearriazola4915 I watched live unfortunately. Ethan spent like 2 hours denouncing the actions of Israel and as soon as he brings up grievances with the other side Hasan immediately starts running defense and minimizing every criticism as "unproductive". He's an actual worm which is funny because he likes to use slurs like gusano.
@@saraearriazola4915 Hassan abuses Ethan's lack of knowledge on the topic in order to convince him of insane lies about Israel, and then act like he's actually educating him. I've been studying the Middle East and Israel/Palestine for 20 years, including international law, and Hasan has been saying absurd amounts of bullshit. Ethan is either too scared to defend himself against his massive crowd of far-leftists, or is just very uneducated on many of the relevant issues.
@@saraearriazola4915who gives a fuck about historical context, Hasan is justifying the torture of Israeli babies. It doesnt get more obvious how pro hamas he is.
@hasanAbi Hasan's chat reflects him. They're toxic bullies. His chat is either spamming emotes or bullying anyone who has a different opinion. When he spots someone with a different take he pulls their logs up to signal to chat to harrass the person and send death threats in their whispers. His chat is also extremely racist and they doxx and harass poc on the internet on a regular basis.
@@remko4112 because it 100% is about views for hasan. remember when Hasan got so invested in playing video games lives with big streamers like dunkey and critikal then like a few months later completely ghosted all those streamers he played games with? It's because he sees these collaborations as solely for getting more views and not building a community.
@@HerveyShmervyI still don’t understand how someone could be friends with a guy like Hansan he’s a rat that likes the idea of communism just so he could stay rich while the rest stay the same the guy is insurable enough to be in a room with him ,nothing this guy says can back up his disputes .
“Ethan shouldn’t let Hasan radicalize his audience” Me: “That’s what he’s actively been doing since he suckered Ethan into doing Leftovers. Now he has a fanbase of wokescolds and tankies who are out for blood.”
Ngl I was an h3 fan first then Ethan announced he’s starting a podcast with hasan. Has no idea who he was so I started watching his stream and got sucked into the tankie shit. It really is a pipeline just like the far right
@@scentlessxapprentice Except the far right isn't a pipeline, there's literally no connection between ben shapiro, and nick fuentes, they're universes apart because you go to the right as you realize gov't is horrible and ruins everything, so you want less and less of it in your life, then you what, get far enough right and reach the groypers and nazis who advocate for race socialism? ethnostate fascists do not connect with conservatives in any way other than they both are more traditional in how they'd like the culture to be, but politically they're not even in the same sport. whereas it's a fuckin interstate superhighway to go from default liberal to full on tankie, as every social media pushes you in that direction, culturally we're moving that direction, etc. Not to mention it's actually been shown that the "pipeline" actually moves people more to the center, from the right, whereas censorship and cancel culture (banning everyone with standard conservative opinions) pushes people directly to the "far right" because being banned doesn't change your views, it just isolates you from reasonable people, and leaves you nobody but the crazy extremists to speak to.
@@TubeWusel This is an aspect I wish Destiny wouldn't dismiss, and de-emphasize so much, it's a huge part of what is going on, to say palestinians dont hate israel for any reason other than their treatment, is insane, they teach from a very young age that killing jews is good, and god demands that they kill all the jews. They act this out in school plays, they chant this every day at mosque, they blame jews every chance they get, it's why they refuse a 2 state solution, it's why they chose to put Hamas in charge instead of focusing on improving Gaza and becoming a respectable nation, because they don't want that as long as israel exists, they would rather live like they are now, fighting to destroy israel, than to live in better conditions, in coexistence with israel. To say that even most of this is purely out of "treatment of palestinians" is absurd, because when they were in better conditions, but with more attacks on israel because of it, people said the same things. What I truly cannot understand, is why israel is responsible for conditions in Gaza.... They gave Gaza to palestinians, pulled out completely, that goodwill was met with violence and bloodshed, they responded by tightening the border and not facilitating trade with them, because why would they? Why should they have to do so much to help out people who want to wipe them off the planet? Gaza shares a border with Egypt too, they could easily facilitate trade through that border, but they don't, and Egypt doesn't even want to because the palestinians attack them when they don't blockade Gaza as well, they literally attack everyone who helps them out, so none of their allies in the region will help them with anything except weapons and bombs, because all they are to the muslim world is a political tool to attack israel, and a volatile people to physically attack israel.
Yeah, the history of Israel is pretty much being attacked by multiple armies (mostly Egypt and Jordan), winning, then offering a two-state solution, being denied this solution, repeat …
People need to give Hasan more pushback and accountabilty when he makes some of these insane claims. Ethan caves in way too soon sadly and gives his accusations about Israel instant merit even if they are blatantly false. I guess that is why Hasan likes him so much.
Defending Hamas is like supporting a school shooter because his family was killed by the school bully, so he decided to kill his bully and his family. Its not right but its a more fitting analogy than the most upvoted one.
Hasan doing to Ethan what he said Destiny did to Trihex over the N-word shit really is insane. The craziest part is that instead of something entirely inconsequential like potentially saying the n-word in private as a joke, it's Hasan dismissing Ethan while defending people laughing at and cheering for the murdering of innocent people.
Exactly. The line people like Hasan have is insane. He's again using shit like the Nword even used ironically and as a joke because that can eventually lead to someone actually murdering/rounding up black people. Yet, he and his friends can literally cheer on the brutal murder of babies while an actual conflict is happening. Not only does the responsibility for your platform disappear (which Hasan constantly wants his enemies to be responsible for evwry member of their audience) but the slippery slope goes away too. But yeah, Hasan and his friends can say the most insane deplorable shit about dead jewish babies cuz the N word is worse.
I was working when i listened to the whole leftovers this week, so maybe i missed some things or mentally tuned out a bit. I dont remember dan being that involved in the conversation other than wanting to move on to that taylor swift movie thing. What else did he say that was inflamatory? ( I havent watched this destiny review of it yet either. Just getting it in my watched list so i can come back to it)
I've found myself frustrated by dan in some of the more recent clips, but I really don't understand the issue with this most recent podcast, he barely spoke at all. he's also generally such a joy on 99% of the other episodes.
i watched this live and i felt so bad for Ethan. he can’t get a single shred of empathy out of Hasan despite showing overwhelming empathy for the other side. tough to watch tbh.
Australia has a large MIddle-Eastern community, particularly Lebanese. Sydney is known to have enclaves of them. It's absolutely en-pointe for them to show up and chant something so despicable. They've done this sort of thing in the past, the country gets outraged, they lie low for 3 months and forget. It's basically yearly.
I was really starting to have hope for Ethan, but that apology is a really bad sign. He just bowed to the most radical elements of his fanbase. Absolutely embarrassing.
@@k.-flynn He's a millionaire who podcasts for a living. How the fuck is that "an impossible position?" If he's not in a position to tell the truth, no one is. You're just excusing cowardice at this point.
@k.-flynn yeah, pretty much. Like destiny said, Ethan is in an emotional state, which is totally fine and understandable, and trying to actually connect with hasan and hasan is just in debate bro mode.
@@redSUPERMAN2 Its funny when hes so anti debate bro, but then acts like this. Its so patronizing. I feel like ethan can run laps around him, hes got the chops to actually get to the meat of peoples positions. Hasan cant handle that so he blubbers his way through convos. Anytime ethan ask him to take a stance hasan cant and its weak. Its toxic for ethan. Hes coming in wanting to know what hasan feels and everytime hasan just gaslights and wiggles around. So far every convo between the two has been the same old dance.
People's true colors really come out in times like this. The things they will condone the things they will condemn and won't condemn really tells you a lot.
I would wager that Hasan doesn't even know that there wasn't a single Israeli (or Jew) in Gaza prior to this attack. Also, the absolute irony of people arguing that Jews have no claim to the land, but that it's Palestinians' ancestral homeland. Palestinians are only called "Palestinians" because Rome thought it would be hilariously humiliating to name the people it located there once it ousted the Jews (hundreds of years before Mohammad was said to have lived) after the Jews' historic enemies, the Philistines.
The inability to condemn Hamas is honestly mind blowing, pun intended. I would like to think that Hamas is not a reflection of Palestinian people and I don't think the current war effort by Israel is humane, so shocking IDF celebrations. But you have to unequivocally call Hamas a terrorist organization. I'm from Ireland and would call the IRA's actions in Northern Ireland as terrorist. But so were the UVF. You need to stop radical positions for peace to happen.
Few weeks ago I commented how I was afraid Ethan would crumble on a serious topic without support from his peers and it seems that is getting closer to reality... There is still a glimmer of hope that Ethan sees his "friend" for what he is, but it's getting dimmer every time he has to fight for his values alone. I lost hope for Ethan some time ago, but now that he seems to be getting reality check, I root for him more than ever before.
I’m with you. I am finding myself more aligned with Ethan than ever before. I really hope he sees things for what they are and sticks by his morals as I do believe he has a strong moral compass
Ethan is there with an open mind for a conversation with his friend Hasan is there with a closed off mind trying to have a debate with a possible political adversary
You just know if Hasan had been a guest on that episode of the tankie podcast, he would have let those comments from the other two slide - and maybe even joined in himself - and that would have been the end of his stint on Ethan's podcast. I wish that was this timeline instead of a different one. Also, obligatory reminder that Second Thought has another channel where he test drives luxury cars. You couldn't write this stuff better if you tried.
I've always cringed while watching Hasan talk about literally anything, but seeing the live feed of his Discord reacting actually made me cry. I can watch a figurehead babble nonsensically all day, but real human beings drink in this poison and mock dead children for no reason other than ideological purity is just too depressing. When will you have enough money to stop this, Hasan? You are turning a generation of kindhearted, normal people into bloodthirsty ideologues with no love for anything but theory.
I just love where the lines are with people like Hasan. If a youtuber/streamer simply still used gay to=lame and that youtuber/streamers audience followed suit. Hasan wpuld act like they are completely homophobic scum and that rhetoric feeds into greater homophobia to the point of eradicating gays. Yet, when his fanbase and his friends literally dehumanize jewish people and jewish babies who were brutally murdered and cheering that on. All of a sudden those youtubers have no influence and their opinions dont matter and they have no responsibility for thwir audience of a million subscribers.
It's more evil than even that because he's not doing it for the money. Once you realize that you'll see how fucked up he really is. He actually wants to be way more extreme than he is here and even on his own stream. This is him restraining himself.
This is probably gonna be the issue that breaks up the show and maybe even turns Ethan back a bit. He’s already been slowly inching away from far left takes by arguing with Hasan the past few months and this issue clearly impacts him and Hasan in completely different ways and their reactions/world views on such a fundamental issue (I.e. extreme political violence) are so completely different
By all the laws of physics and logic, people like Hasan Piker shouldn't exist. And yet he does, making me question the reality even further. Hopefully the universe will correct this error sooner rather than later.
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I thought the title was Hamas Defends Leftists Celebrating Hamas
Destiny, who can you parrot in these trying times?
Who’s position is “safe” enough to publicly repeat?
….Such trying times.
daddystiny
@Destiny I’m sorry but Ethan isn’t as much of a lefty as I once thought. Hasan is more of a lefty than Ethan… the leftist today are pro Palestine… leftist are more us vs them mentality than we see people of the center and the center right from my perspective.
This doesn’t look good on hasan since he said radical shit like america deserve 9/11 soon and so forth have ties to Arab ancestry and show constant favoritism to his own origins… look at how he shit on European countries for everything regarding middle Eastern projections with Arab and Muslim based backgrounds.
Hasan is Turkish first and use his blood relation to Greeks as an excuse to act out horrible acts…
Have you seen what hasan liked on twitter? It reflects what he relates to or likes mentally.
He is very much like he musli neo nationalist Turkish who exists to this day who also followed the same mentality as the Muslims and Arabs who pushed for the araynian (forgive bad spelling I’m studying while writing this so I had little time) genocide…
Hasan believes any bullshit against Israel… the Iranian doctor literally don’t care about e lives lost… this act claiming the people that are actual citizens of Israel as “settlers” is bullshit claims because this group of people didn’t start acting like this until the 1970s…
They lost their land because the results of world war 2 fair and square. Germany also lost and had to let go of all those countries they had control over. Israel was created as a result. The people committing these acts on are 40 at oldest not anywhere as old as the people who would have lived in israel back in the 1940s
He claims the Israelis are far right to claim justifying the death of Israelis because he panders to leftists… hasan is subhuman when he makes these arguments. Hasan probably claimed people weren’t raped and claimed the babies weren’t beheaded as well to deny any reality to fit his world narrative.
Hasan abuses all forms of history to justify violence and harm to other people.
@@Americansikkuntthe voice of reason is the voice of civility and negotiations.
When you justify violence you silence and oppress civility by proxy.
"I'm glad we spent 2 hours talking about how evil Israel is."
"Yeah man, me too. Okay let's talk about Hamas now"
"No because it's irrelevant and doesn't matter"
"okay how about we talk about people who support Hamas"
"Oh that doesn't matter either. Nothing you bring up matters. Only what I bring up matters" - Hamasabi
it's not even that supporting terror attacks is what bothers me. Those lefties are building an entire narrative around the occupation and "freedom fighters", but they didn't ask Hamas what is its mission and why did it perform this giant massacre. Hamas mission statement is to destroy the state of Israel completely, kill the jews in the Jihad and to establish the Islamic state (a.k.a ISIS) on the entire land. I kid you not. Gaza is not under occupation, Israel has completely withdrawn in 2005 and gave it to the Palestinians. The reason for the massacre, according to Hamas, is "to free the Al-Aqsa mosque" (from non-muslims) in Jerusalem.
🔥 🔥
Why are you endlessly bringing up the Israelis casualties? That hurts the Palestinian(tm) brand, bro.
Now let me talk endlessly about the grievances of Palestinians.
you know why is irrelevant to talk about Hamas now? BECAUSE THE F**** IDF IS CARRYING A STREAM LIVE GENOCIDE OVER GAZA, that's why.
You know what people said when Hamas was doing the raid? "it doesn't matter what Israel did before, this is now, this massacre is happening now, are you supporting Hamas?" so it goes the same now, because the moment Hamas started doing the raid, the first thing the IDF did was send missiles to Gaza, they didn't even try to rescue their own people from the Hamas raid, they wait a full day before starting sending troops to the south, but the bombs over Gaza? those were there an hour after the first attack.
but hey, it's more important to talk about Hasan's feelings and whatever bs he is talking about, priorities I guess
Hamasabi lmao
Defending Hamas is like supporting the school shooter because he was bullied
Sorry bud but that babies were settlers
What were Palestinians suppose to do?
I’m not admonishing them; just want to know what you personally think they should do; being on the prisoner end (Palestine- with no money and nowhere to go to) versus the worlds most powerful and influential demographic (Israelis/ Jews).
Israel needs to take personal responsibility towards this situation. The have all the power and agency in this situation whereas the Palestinians have nothing. It was obvious it was going to get explosive.
There’s only so many times you can “turn the other cheek”.
@Just_another_turtle truly one of the takes of all time
@@kattatonic8010it's just part of decolonizing some babies were just in the cross fire 🤷
@@kattatonic8010 Hamas≠Palestinians.
For hasan to cry then later to discredit ethan and laugh about it is so unbelievably disrespectful i do not blame ethan for pausing leftovers with hasan.
Baby settlers is the most insane and despicable thing ive ever heard in my life. Coming from people who pride themselves on being the good guys fighting for the oppressed is just peak.
So much for being on “the right side of history”…
"the oppressed" is just a convenient group to use to make their hatred acceptable
They are straight up working backwards from the event. "Oh you hurt a bunch of kids? Well uh those kids were the children of bad people, they no longer should have your sympathy."
@@TheFatalcrest lots of word games democrats are glossing over. Palestine instead of Gaza. Settlers where there are no settlers, unless you don't think Israel has a right to exist then they are all settlers and colonizers. And we are decades down the long democrat road of vilifying colonizers and settlers. So just like jew hatred in Germany in the 1930s found fertile ground, this whole colonizer settler thing is now being down on fertile ground. Only way to combat it is to meet it head on. Otherwise you're weak just like Ethan.
The baby settlers term is literally the same thing the right says about illegal immigrants here in the states. Man this horseshoe in politics couldn't be more obvious
Hasan snickering, being condescending and making sarcastic jokes while his jewish friend is in pain and trying to explain why it's important to show empathy to both sides. Some people truly are immune to humanity
That’s how leftists are
Its funny when its "innocent Palestinian 20 year old children" are on the screen, hasan cries like a little baby. But when its "evil white new Yorker Israeli settlers" its "oh they're oppressing marginalized people" there's not enough bleach for that manlet
@@IRepko Exactly. It sucks because besides Destiny and his community there doesn’t seem to be many people online who aren’t completely radicalized to the far-right or far-left.
@IRepko oh yeah. No one's more hateful racist and prejudice than a far left person with too much time on their hands
@@IRepko As a capitalist who largely agrees with 90% of Destiny's policy positions, this past week has moved me further left. I will no longer considering to vote for Joe Biden or Donald Trump as long as they keep supporting Netanyahu's corrupt administration. Cornel west is the only candidate with a spine. Liberals who said they hated what America did to the natives and what Hitler did to the jews are actively cheering on the ethnic cleansing of the palestinian people. Even tucker carlson is calling for de-escalation but liberal and neocon congressmen freaks are calling to nuke Iran yet destiny focuses on the fringe minority of left wing content creator making reactionary comments who hold no power in society.
Ethan: "I don't think innocent people should be killed and then disrespected online."
Hasan: "And I took offense to that"
innocent people aka settler colonialists in an ethno-state, who are there because of mythologycal fantasy beliefs about being superior to everyone else and god's chosen
Fake news
@@OmniDan26 the citizens didn't do anything wrong besides existing
@fallsunset5862 context matters, like what was your comment about? Are you pointing out Hasan agreeing with Ethan or downplaying his point? Is Hasan taking offense to ethan's statement or to the disrespect Ethan was mentioning? Was your first reply calling your statement fake news or Hasan taking offense? Or the situation being discussed in general? Was your reply saying that they were attacked just for existing, and did nothing wrong? Or are you saying the only thing wrong they did was exist?
I had to comment this because the I was actually confused by the first reply and your response, cuz its like there was more of a conversation but it was erased.
To be fair a lot of israelis are doing that as well.
I have no stake in this one though. I think the U.S. should just be hands off on this situation.
Ethan was literally shamed into downplaying terror against an ethnic group he belongs to... Wild.
One group is fighting with modern advanced tech and artillery while the other side has sticks and stones…. It’s not a fair fight and never has been. And then make up a story about babies being beheaded?! Fuck them and free Palestine
to all the cheers of his own community, disgusting
If he doesn't see how he's being directed by his own audience through this, I will lose all respect I gained for his takes on the Hamas situatiom.
He's a wuss in the first place, of course he did.
Based Ethan. The only based jew is a self-hating jew 😃
This whole conversation was like watching an abusive relationship. One person is in pain, open to hearing the other side's issues, but ultimately just wants to be heard empathically. Hasan responds with the coldest, hand-wavy remarks to even the egregious indefensible Second Thought comments. You could tell Ethan came away very dissatisfied with the responses, but gaslights himself into thinking he just needs to be MORE good faith to these disgusting people who won't even give an INCH of empathy for innocent civilians.
A week ago, regardless of Destiny's hatred for Hasan, I was largely indifferent. I now actively despise him and am genuinely concerned that he's such an infuencial figure. This guy is a literal sociopath.
He's definitely a terrible influence. I'm horrified that kids watch him. He's influencing an army of 13 ywar olds to believe this crap..
Israel is the abusive partner
Exactly.
He just started proving Destiny's point from the Taiwan debate.
Hasan would put people in re-education camps and kill them if they kept disagreeing with him. He has the mindset of someone who justifies murder for his own benefit.
Yeah it was very “okay, anyways..” or playing with the dog, like bro.. Very inconsiderate
"I'm tired of Ethan acting like the morality police" This situation hits Ethan personally because he is married to Hila, who he met in Israel, he also lived in Israel as well and has dual citizenship. Hila's family lives in Israel as well. Also him and Hila have both stated that they are against the Israeli government and that the leader is horrible and that they are also pro palestine, just not Humas. People don't actually pay attention to anything.
Ok so what's your point? Being against acts of terror, but being also against isreal backing for more supplied weapons and land grabs is totally reasonable.
@@David-mz8xkthe point is both sides have awful way of dealing with their disputes get rid of the zionists and Hamas and you have the possibility of both sides having an agreement to become one state since that land has a lot of history of conflicting religions and having peaceful times it doesn’t take a logical empathic scientist to resolve the conflict something like your pea sized brain can’t handle your a extremest that likes the idea to murder civilians that want to exist.
Blinded by group think and ideology.
It just hit Ethan that all his "anti-Semitic trolls" are Hasan fans.
Sure bro
@@kevaughnramsay9846 Hasan is a proud communist.
The communist manifesto blames Jews for Capitalism (with no Citation of how they're responsible) and Hitlers Garbage pair of books Quote it directly.
The communist manifesto literally sais Jews should be "Exterminated."
Hasan's fans hating Ethan is no surprise. Commies are just Nazi's but enemployed.
Are they actually though? I don’t know much about Hassans views or if he is antisemitic / if his fans are
Bro, Ethan Klein came out and confirmed it like a week after I posted this comment. So, according to Ethan Klein, yes. @@Youokhun
Sure, Bro. But, a week after I posted this comment, Ethan Klein comes out and cancels Leftovers because of Hassan's anti-Semitic fans. He still loves Hassan though. @@kevaughnramsay9846
It’s like watching the abused and the abuser. Sickening.
No kidding it feels like Ethan was being gaslighted for two straight hours.
Speaking as someone who has been in abusive relationships, that’s exactly what you’re watching.
Watching Hasan manipulate and gaslight Ethan into apoligizing was insane to watch. I am just glad a strong, proud woman such as destiny was able to come to his defense.
destiny is the woman of my dreams no cap
lol
He also said Ethan needs to take responsibility for folding so easily He needs to grow a backbone. Ethan wants so hard to look like he's the good guy and stay friends with Hasan that he allowed Hasan to possibly radicalize a huge audience. This is Ethans channel not Hassan but it's hard to tell the difference at this point.
Watching Destiny be best friend with Hasan was
I’m middle eastern. Half Palestinian.. and I gotta say destiny’s audience is some of the most centrist annoying biased ass losers of any fanbase I’ve seen. These comments are so frustrating as somebody who’s directly affect by this as well as my family and friends.
I hope Destiny does watch the full thing eventually, it’s kinda unbelievable to see Ethan get gaslit by Hasan and Dan into thinking he’s being the unreasonable one in the conversation. Ethan throughout the conversation showed insane sympathy toward both sides of the conflict and Hasan showed it toward only one.
Babies were settlers
After Dan showed himself to be a Hasan simp everything that has come from his mouth related to politics has been tankie bullshit. Watching Hasan leads you to brainrot, I now despise all the losers in this community that insisted that Hasan was a "net positive".
@@TurtleChad1He didn't 😞
@@TurtleChad1 imagine thinking a baby is guilty of taking someone's land by simply just randomly being born there with no say. So absurd.
@@gnoogieI think that was the point
So so so glad to see someone talk about this as a Jewish fan of both Ethan and Hasan. I haven’t been able to watch hasan since the 7th because the way he talks about it makes me so upset, and you can’t even correct him when he makes factually/historically incorrect statements because you will get attacked by his pro Hamas fans
I'm not Jewish but I relate so much. I'm so disappointed in Hasan and other leftist commentators I used to look up to. Israel's actions don't justify antisemitism and terrorism.
I don’t like Ethan but it makes me genuinely sad that Hasan won’t give him any concessions or even just say “yeah, friend, I understand your perspective and it’s valid.” At every turn Hasan has to twist and manipulate, browbeating Ethan into agreeing with his horrible takes until Ethan just gives in. Such a terrible human.
What’s your icon pic?
It's a microcosm of the Left in the US. Pol Pot Hipsters bullying liberals into jumping off a cliff into Khmer Rouge territory.
Because he's racially motivated.
That was very well put
Ethan needs to understand that if he and/or Hila had been visiting family in Israel on 10/7 and had been killed by Hamas, Hasan would not shed a single tear and the only thing stopping him from gloating would be the bad optics.
Hasan is fighting the hardest fight he's ever fought in trying not to completely come out supporting Hamas...
I think that's incorrect. He's pretty even headed. I think he is very Ottoman oriented in the thinking, mainly overlooking radicalization. But he'd never support Hamas, but up to this attack Hamas had done relatively little. In fact they were favored by Netanyahus party over other orgs
@@awtodor Ottomans were the empire with the genocide of Armenians - is that what you mean by Hasan being "Ottoman oriented"?
Occupation has been happening for 56 years or however long. Hamas has only existed for 30 years or so…
This should immediately tell you that Hamas are the symptom, not the disease.
Like many other examples, oppression has a tendency of giving rise to terrorism
@@CTemboeveryone talking about “Hamas Hamas Hamas” like the PLO wasn’t just as bad if not worse with its terrorism
@@jasonkatz4430 armed resistance is inevitable
hasan is pure evil incarnation
This leftovers podcast was the first time I've listened to Hasan for an extended amount of time. I couldn't make it past an hour. The guy ego debated Ethan on every single point.
I don't believe in that hour he ever came close to agreeing with anything Ethan said, while Ethan conceded every single time to try and have some empathy for the other side.
I did my best to avoid Hasan for years, it's so unbelievably depressing to see that's what so many people listen to everyday. He was a propaganda machine with no empathy to offer Ethan and Hila. It felt so frustrating watching Ethan trying and failing repeatedly to get a shred of sympathy out of him, I just had to stop listening.
Yeah I’ve never been able to tolerate him for more than a few minutes. It’s kinda concerning how many people look to him as a sort of role model
@@MisterK-YTsome of the comments outright celebrating the massacres were certainly eye opening.
i cant even watch ethan. Hes just so weak on all his beliefs here. He looks like a doormat
Hasan is without a doubt, the most cult-minded successful person that ever made it in media.
Hamas piker
He is Turkish, what do you expect?
Nah best actor in social media.
Two words: Sean Penn
You just know if Hasan had been a guest on that episode of the tankie podcast, he would have let those comments from the other two slide - and maybe even joined in himself - and that would have been the end of his stint on Ethan's podcast. I wish that was this timeline instead of a different one.
Hasan's chat spamming paraglider emojis while the dude in the video praises "killing hipsters" tells you everything you need to know. All while lots of mods(teal blue names) are present and have zero issues with it. Ethan will probably snap out of sooner or later but make no mistake, this is the bed he made on his own, he has nobody to blame for ignoring the red flag.
Hasan's Discord chat was being absolutely vile the entire time oh my god.
Ethan should really open his eyes and realise what kind of audience Hasan brings to him.
Ethan: 'the right are all racists and nazies'
The left: 'we are going to exterminate the jews!'
Ethan: wait, wut
I used to be left once. I did not leave the left. The left left me. Now, the only ones giving a rats arse about actual leftwing ideals: is (drumrol) the right.
When the video was showing the terrorist supporters chanting to gas the Jews, and Hasan's discord was saying, "What's wrong with this video Ethan" or "This looks fake" or "Ethan is being brain dead about this." That got me angry. I try not to let others influence my mood, but holy shit, these people are the scum of the earth. And to see it being said so openly without shame is insane.
@@rambo3rd471same here. Just to think there are discord servers filled with cringey 15 year olds who follow Hasan and his kind unironically and are so brainwashed just pisses me off
@@donovan4222 Socialists when a terrorist organization kills children 🥳
My mouth dropped in real life. I am only just seeing how bad his echochamber is recently due to his recent war opinions.
Ethan was far too kind to Hasan and Hasan took full advantage of him for it.
Watching how broken Ethan was during this made me sick….. Hasan is truly disgusting
Ethan: 'But I thought we where friends!'
Muslim: 'The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.'
You know the story of the snake and the river? An other animal (cant remember which one) gave the snake a ride acros the river, hoping they would then be friends. But afterwards, the snake bites the animal, and while the animal dies, it asks: why? and the snake says: because I am a snake.
@@baskoning9896HISSAN 🐍
@@baskoning9896 You are thinking of the story of a scorpion and a frog.
@@baskoning9896😂😂yes we will fight the zionist in the end times not and u should also read the torah/bibel!
Where in the new testament does it say to kill anyone? How many people did Jesus kill himself? Hmm? How come when I show you the direct call to arms in the quran/hadith, and show you the blood it causes, you say: 'but what about....' ?@@messi-mk3cq Yes, what about christianity? Is it perfect? No. Did it kill people? Sure. But you can reform christianity: by asking 'what would jesus do'. He would not hurt a fly. Hence why christianity is no longer killing people. But you cant do that in islam, can you? Because the order to violence is coming directly from allah, and the example of the prophet, who himself KILLED MANY PEOPLE.
It’s honestly so sad to see Ethan just let Hasan completely dominate this conversation. Hasan is such a difficult person for me to even listen to for more than 5 minutes. How does one become so callous and insensitive?
When you think you are absolutely correct without a shadow of a doubt, those who oppose you are evil, and don’t deserve moral consideration.
Whether it be Fascism or socialism, selective empathy is disgusting.
easy start thanks to nepotism + victim complex + money (made on preaching about everything despite not knowing anything about literally any topic)
Hasan just wants to be popular. he wants the attention. he is addicted to the spot light. it's why he has openly admit to being a propagandist when asked in the past and why many of his takes on stream are always hate mongering and fear mongering, and why when actually engaging with another human he restarts and ums alot so he can have time to find a way to sound like he's agreeing while actively undermining the other person. actual scum worse than vaush if only because his reach is so much larger
He’s Turkish
He didn’t dominate anything.Just usual word vomit making him look worse to anyone with a brain.
“There are baby settlers” is beyond the pale. These people lose their mind over defending identities that you’re born with. People who are born in colonial civilizations also do not choose. That doesn’t make them a viable target of retaliation.
Can't justify anti yt sentiment without baby settlers
it's just hypocritical bullshit coming from a proud Turk - his people are occupying Anatolian Greek land. By his own reasoning if the Greeks were to rise up and butcher the Muslims of Turkic origin, it wouldn't be murder because they aren't civilians
Babies grow up to be combatants. What don't you understand about this?
@@OmniDan26 Babies are born innocent. Someone born to parents who are settlers did not choose to be born in that situation. If your conclusion of settler civilizations is “they’re all evil” you’re both dumb and inconsistent.
@OmniDan26 So it's ok to kill babies because they might grow up to be combatants? That's really the stance you're taking? The ones who aren't going to grow up to be combatants just get to die, too, i guess? Then i guess its fine for Israeli to kill babies as well and attempt to wipe out every Palestinian baby because they might be a combatant one day?
I will never understand how people can so easily advocate the slaughter of “occupiers” when that is literally what they are themselves
It’s crazy . Why doesn’t it apply to Americans or how far do we go back … turkey use to be Byzantine….
Demoralization.
@@sek3ymisek3ymi imo we need retribution for all the mammoths killed by the native americans 20,000 years ago.
@@phoenixjones7191 oh snap !!! Hey , you are right! Also let’s declare war on all asteroids . No one hits my earth without a swift death !
@@sek3ymisek3ymi based
Wow, watching Ethan apologizing for not being charitable enough to people who want to genocide him because of his ethnicity just makes me sick.
Bro nobody is calling for Jewish genocide, Palestinians and even Hamas don't want to genocide the Jews. The only thing they want is the end of decades of Palestinian subjugation. But let's take a look at what Israel wants. They have emphatically rejected a Palestinian state for 16 years now. Netenyahu does NOT want to stop occupying the West Bank. And the death numbers of Palestinians in the recent conflict are up to 20,000 or more. The Israeli casualties are 1,400.
So who is really calling for genocide here? Could it be the overwhelmingly stronger force that is the IDF and the Israeli prime Minister who refuses to end illegal occupation and refuses to stop killing tens of thousands of women and children?
It was his decision to set his credibility on fire to appeal to people that very much want to kill his people.
It was also his decision to say Ben Shapiro deserved to die first because Ethan really thought it was Ben who was playing with fire and not himself.
Ethan gets the audience he fostered. All I'll say is that it is insincere of him to appeal to people's humanity after rejecting that very thing for years. Maybe his old audience would have heard him out, but he hates that old audience and fostered this new one. Maybe he should have thought about that a bit more.
@@LB-py9ig Yep, it's always easy to beg for empathy when you're the one under the boot. It's how you act when you aren't that matters, and Ethan showed his true colors long ago.
Sad to see Ethan caving in to terrorist sympathizers
I think it’s just like the Israeli experience. Trying to make peace and being as generous as possible…. Only to be met with hate and folded arms
True, sad to see him keep supporting Israel
Yeah well, this is what happens when you let insane Lefties from Hasan's orbit intermingle with your own audience. Their ideas fester & permeate throughout H3H3's more moderate/progressive fanbase.
This is entirely self-inflicted.
How he condemned both sides and sympathize with Palestinian plight not the hamas.
@@Based_Lord_Waifuoh no the troll is here
Hasan is a Tankie. Tankies are fascists. This explains the behavior.
It isn’t too hard to understand
I think you’re confused
Yet he makes fun of fascists and supports antifa.
@@TheBakuganmaster99You got him bud
@@TheBakuganmaster99 despite the name of the movement, Antifa's ideology has no problem with authoritarian facism as long as their camp gets to make the rules that are enforced.
Tankies aren’t fascists. Tankies are authoritarian communists/socialists. Calling tankies fascists is a trick that online leftists like Vaush like to pull a lot in an attempt to sanitize socialism and communism and absolve these ideologies from the fact that yes, socialism and communism are authoritarian, often totalitarian, and do often lead to immense suffering, just like fascism.
It’s crazy how Hasan just refused to say “yeah that’s messed up man, not good” instead of just “I don’t think it’s useful for our political goals”
Jesus Christ, imagine justifying the killing of children and the helpless. Do human lives mean nothing if they are on the other side?
It's justified in the same way slaves broke free and revolted against their masters and beat the crap out of their masters. Why feel bad for karma taking its course?
@@counselorguy5481Are you really comparing children to fucking slave masters? They didn’t do anything to anyone besides exist in a place that was taken violently. It’s horrible what Israel did but leave children out of it.
@@counselorguy5481No it’s not. Slaves killing masters is clearly different from Hamas killing civilians. Civilians who are not involved in oppressing Palestinians are not guilty for oppressing Palestinians. And even if one granted that Israel is oppressing Palestinians, that is in no way morally equivalent to full-blown chattel slavery.
@@jodawgsup Anti Zionist joos are beyond based.
Could you explain how there is an equivalence between slaves killing their masters and this situation? Palestinians are now "slaves" of Israel, apparently?
Stop making shit up as you go. It's not working for you and it just makes you look stupid.
@@counselorguy5481
Ethan is way too understanding, he needs to understand that those aren't his friends, and he has ABSOLUTLEY every reason, as a Jew and Israeli with a family in Israel, to ask every small detail for the solution they have towards the conflict.
They have absolutley abused his already bad mental state coming into this.
Just insane...They might convince him he doesn't deserve to exist because he's jewish too!
This 100%.
@@kikiknojjI know you’re joking but honestly, seeing how Ethan just caved to hasan really made me think about the H-caust & how so many ppl caved bc it was the easiest thing to do 😢
@@scarletsletter4466alway bring up H to victimize yourself. That done work on us, it was the european who did not. That doest give u people the right to colonize palestine
It's still absolutely wild to me that Hasan isn't perma banned for defending genocide after genocide while Steven got perma banned for arguing against trans women in women's sports
Because trans people are the most protected class on social media, that and Hasan has too many connections.
TRUE. This is why banning people for language that isn’t outright a call to dangerous action/violence is stupid to begin with though.
Simple, Hasan brings in the moolah and he cannot be cancelled as he is the epitome of leftism, the biggest hypocrite of them all "fighting the good fight".
No need to remind you most content creators are lefties, especially in the English speaking vtuber category, so if they banned Hasan then there would be major backlash for Twitch and Amazon would have to find new left brain rot puppets to run the place.
Twitch is pro left. If you have been on it since at least 2015 you know what im talking about. There’s like 1000 exemples.
yea dude, i thought the same fucking thing. Wild is an understatement. It's the equivalent of Reckful getting banned on Twitch for taking his shirt off, while hundreds of girls were spreading eagle in hot tubs with immunity. Just makes no fuckin sense.
This was a frustrating watch. I'm struggling to see how Ethan even considers Hasan a "friend" after all this and the gaslighting toward the end was nothing short of disgusting. Got REALLY difficult to make it through the end of this video.
because he got used and lied to by most people around him
Ethan is a weak pos who will cower to anyone on the radical left even those who support the Hamas baby torture
I’m a reformed tankie (it’s so embarassing lol) and I think the thing that finally made me reconsider was just that it felt like not only did they discourage you from showing basic human empathy for your “enemies”, they punished you for it. the fact that they’re not even trying to empathize with Ethan at all, even when he was crying for the Palestinian dad, shows they’ve replaced their humanity with a very stupid and cringe ideology. It’s very dangerous, I was extremely unhinged the entire time that I was a communist
Congrats on stopping the redfash pill
Ethan empathized more for the Palestinians than Hasan with his NPC talking points did.
Didn't he fake cry too later in the show so he doesn't appear like a psychopath? Lmao.
@@JP__Deltathank you, i’m 100% happier and way better off in every single way but tbh I’m deeply ashamed of how cruel my beliefs were
@@bananianyes 💀 that was insane
@@katoe908 happy in the moment + ashamed of the past = proud of your future 😊
I really wish someone with a sane brain could talk to ethan long enough to let him know he doesn't have to associate with completely batshit morons. I legitimately can't believe what I'm watching right now.
Seeing Hasan get more emotional about a Nickmercs tweet but then laughing at terrorist attacks is a little disturbing.
He's like a recruitment agency for Isis and Hamas lol
*If you take Ethan and Hasan out of it, and just look at what transcribed, what do you think the average sane person would conclude to the questions below in bold ?*
MR.X watched a stream ,live, (communicating with the streamers in a friendly fashion in the chat) of a person stating that all Israelis are settlers, so therefore it's okay to kill all of them. MR.Y then brings up said live stream to MR.X on their podcast, and MR.X won't concede that this statement is evil. MR.X later states that there are in fact baby settlers in Israel.
*Do you think MR.X thinks that all Israli's are settlers, including babies ? And do you think MR.X thinks, that you should be allowed to kill all Israeli settlers, including "Baby settlers" because they are in fact settlers ?*
*Again if you look at what has transcribed, what do you think the average sane person would conclude to the questions below in bold*
MR.X has a community, that responded to the statements made on the previously referred to live stream as "based", "Giga Chad" and "correct" etc etc, and attacked MR.Y for disagreeing with the statements made on said live stream. MR.X has not made any announcement to ban said people, or made an announcement that such behaviour is wrong.
*Do you think that MR.X believes that the actions of his community is acceptable ? And if so why do you think, he thinks such behaviour is acceptable ?*
*From here on I will follow the same format of showing what transcribed, and then proposing a question in bold to the average sane person*
Hamas had just killed a large number of Israeli citizens in some of the most horrendous ways possible, a person on the live stream MR.X and MR.Y are watching together, states that the Israeli hostages will be treated fairly and humanely, and MR.X responds by saying "He's not wrong on this"
*Do you think MR.X is defending Hamas in bad faith here, considering the horrific things Hamas just did ? Why do you think MR.X would defend Hamas in such bad faith, and knowingly lie to defend them ?*
On the stream being watched, a person states that they do not care that Israeli citizens were taken hostage (After Israeli citizens had just been killed in the most horrific way) and laughs about it, to which MR.X responds by referring to Israli's as fundamentalist settlers, and then refers to an international law, and states that these acts are legal because of that law. And then asks MR.Y if he would agree, that this law is morally correct.
*Do you think MR.X is defending these actions ? Why do you think MR.X would defend these actions ? Why would MR.X ask MR.Y if he believes this law is morally correct ?*
What law, states that it's legal to massacre civilians, and even babies ?
*Why would MR.X knowingly make up such a law, which clearly doesn't exist ?*
MR.X then states, that he does not, agree, that every single Israeli is in fact a settler, as others do, because he thinks it's not a reasonable solution, and will only lead to Palestinians being harmed because far right Israelis will use that as political fuel for their bombing campaigns (indicating that MR.X does not believe that Palestine can achieve a complete take over of Israel)
*Do you think MR.X thinks branding all Israelis settlers is not a good idea, because it's wrong or immoral, or because doing so would tactically backfire against Palestine ? Do you think if Palestine could in fact take over all of Israel, MR.X would think that it is a good idea to brand all Israeli settlers ? If so, do you think, that MR.X thinks that it would be a good idea to kill all Israeli citizens, if Palestine had the capability to do so, since he referred to a law that justifies such actions, of massacring settlers?*
MR.Y then states that the person in the live stream, is evil for thinking all Israeli people are settlers, so it's therefore morally okay, and justified to kill them all, and MR.X replies by, exhaling and tilting his head.
*Do you think MR.X is considering, or trying to appear as if he is considering, if that is in fact evil or not ? And if MR.X is doing this publicly in front of a large audience, whilst sitting next to MR.Y, who is Jewish, and "his friend" that privately, he most likely does not think it's evil to hold such a view ?*
MR.X then states "If this was happening in 1949 I would have a different opinion on the matter, but you can't say this in 2023"
*Do you think that this means that MR.X thinks that in 1949, it would be morally okay to massacre every single Israeli ? And considering his previous remarks, do you think the only reason, why you can't "say this in 2023" is because, again, it would tactically backfire on Palestine ? And do you think the beliefs that it would be okay to say in 1949, because it possibly wouldnt' have backfired on Palestine, and that such a statement would be tactically possible to achieve ?*
*Do you think that based on all this, that it is very sad, but MR.X is an evil person who need serious, serious prolonged therapy ? And if so, is it not the case, that something seriously horrendous must of happened to him in his life, as people just don't think this kind of stuff for no reason, like something very horrific happening during his childhood, whether it be physically, mentally or emotionally, and do you think we should all earnestly, and truly hope MR.X does get the therapy he needs, as clearly you can't think these things and not be absolutely scared, miserable, lost and severely troubled ?*
There is obviously a lot more stuff that MR.X does, and states later in the podcast with MR.Y, that in many ways is a lot worse. Such as what you pointed out, laughing about the whole event in Israel etc, and defending people who are celebrating it etc etc etc, but I will leave it here, I think.
you realize isis and hamas are enemies right? you are showing ur ignorance as a westerner@@bananian
@@bananian for no particular reason. I would put hasan's muslims fans on a watchlist. No particular reason to be clear.
I'd call it on brand
Ethan was waking up, but Hasan is right there with the tranquilizers to force him back into slumber
Waking up to what? Are you one of those people who wants Israel to ethnically cleanse Palestinians as well?
The thing that annoys me most about Hasan is that he's always chewing a very tiny piece of gum and it makes him 10x more punchable.
And chews it like a camel.
I’ve been trying not to use the word “hate” anymore because I don’t feel like I can actually hate another person, but Hasan is really making it hard for me not to.
I hate the guy who invented the crunchwrap because I gained like 20 pounds eating those everyday in middle school.
@@humanmerelybeing1966I hate you for keeping taco bell in business
@@LunarLocust that makes 2 of us
@@humanmerelybeing1966 the crunchwraps are so tasty tho 💀
This is basically like saying a girl was abused and instead of saying that was bad. You ask what she was wearing. People justifying Hamas is insane.
Yes exactly
Both sides have crap military but provocation from Israel is far more intense than the reaction of Hamas(not justifiable tho), but its the opposite in your scenario.
@@snehan8997 I understand both sides have been provocateurs, but Israel has made efforts to peace . It pulled out of Gaza in 2005 , it removed settlers and Jewish graves . The missiles from Hamas never cease . Israel could have returned fire but built the iron dome for defense. How can Israel make peace with Hamas when Hamas wants the death of all Jewish people. It’s obvious not just the land . They don’t feel the same about Egypt .
So your thinking isn’t bad it’s just not informed, go and read up some
@@Based_Lord_Waifu⚒️ vs 🔫, think they'll be just fine
@@Based_Lord_Waifu You're unhinged
Selctive empathy is a new term for me. Thank you so much destiny for sharing your thoughts
I would disagree with it as it's not true empathy. It's weaponized emotions
@@JustAnotherAccount8 true. but it is a good term to use because it reveals the facade in some peoples positions.
@@JustAnotherAccount8 Performative empathy is what I'd call it.
i never thought hasan could be worse and I could despise everything about him any more.. yet..... here we are.
Agreed
I know... There's nothing redeeming about him.
I'll just say 2 things
Hasan is Originally muslim and Turkish, that should be enough to let you know lol
@@user-dd8we9kv2l I’ve never heard of turkey. I have heard of Byzantine though heheh 🤭
You just know if Hasan had been a guest on that episode of the tankie podcast, he would have let those comments from the other two slide - and maybe even joined in himself - and that would have been the end of his stint on Ethan's podcast. I wish that was this timeline instead of a different one.
The problem with Ethans concession at the end is that none of these lefty losers are saying any of this digusting shit out of anger, they acrually believe it. God ethan is so close to seeing through the facade of empathy Hasan like to put on so that he can seem agreeable with whoever hes talking at but Ethan just wants to preserve the freindship. Its so parallel to what happened with destiny and hasan and i think ethan might start to relize the toxic audience hes let into his community bc of Hasans dog whistles
I don't always agree with Destiny but I'm totally on board when he calls out how stupid Hasan is.
i hope Ethan sees this video. i can only imagine the euphoria i'd feel watching someone call out the bullshit and realize i'm not crazy for feeling disturbed by the behavior shown by these leftists.
i remember one time
i tweeted about left wing fascism being a thing and people dogpiled on me as if i was insane . im however not necessarily relieved to see i was proven right loll
They went so far left they circle back to the right.
@@bananianantifa and neo-nazis are kissing on the lips in the streets for the world to see.
I really hope the staff on the podcast supports Ethan. I’m not a fan of him but what Hasan did was gross
His rich jewish friend is fine, but Palestina children are not. The way u western make averything about yourself is crazy
It's kind of insane how disrespectful Hasan was to Ethan. By what Ethan probably considers a friend no less.
I wonder what Hila thinks about Cenk's Nephew?
ethan isn't loyal to anyone but money at the end of the day. he's not stupid yanno
@@trailer.princewell Hasan is loyal to terrorist.
We can see nothing good in that too
Ethan is a snake just like Hasan.
@@donovan4222war isn't genocide
Hasan legit is one of the biggest tools on the internet, right up there with fresh n fit...
It never ceases to amaze me that people will use their own suffering as a justification to inflict the same or worse on others.
The phrase "hurt people hurt people" exists for a reason. Seems that's the way it goes.
@@thealgorithmluvsu3788 I found that out a long time ago. It only gets more disgusting with time.
The entire conflict is basically turning into one gigantic murder-suicide
Thats the modus operandi for terror groups. Magnify your suffering and minimise your suffering.
Ethan should have stood his ground.
if he doesnt stand his ground when babies are murdered, then he wont stand for anything
He doesn't want to ruin the show I guess.
he's on Twitter, and there it's extremely popular to be pro-hamas. I think he feels overwhelmed with that + Hasan + Hasan's stupid fans gaslighting him. I just can't watch him being treated like a child by Hasan while HE is the one who lived there for 5 years and has the knowledge
The problem is Ethan sees Hasan as a true friend.
While Hasan sees Ethan as a useful idiot.
That his people colonized palestine
I think ethan was most likely caught off guard at how dismissive and insensitive he was to Israeli victims, especially when Ethan started off the episode with condemning and crying for Palestine people. Hasan is so disgusting like ugh his whole attitude was gross.
I still hope one day Ethan and Destiny get together and discuss how crazy this chapter has been for Ethan, and how Destiny went through a similar split with his audience and Hasan.
As always though, destiny content coming through to make the day better
Babies were settlers
Naw, I’m just a casual dgger, been a fan since the Jon Tron debate years ago. I touch too much grass generally to spend time in the disc
Same
I'm looking forward to Destinys complete red pill moment. I'm watching a lot of him and he's getting closer and closer to the realization that his team (democrats) are far worse than the other 2 thirds of the country. Closer and closer. The more he hangs out with Ryan grim, Emma vigland and vaush, and the more he watches stuff like this, the closer he gets to that epiphany
What a truly beautiful world Hasan has constructed for himself; all the benefits of being a massive influencer with none of the responsibility. Cool!
Not only an influencer; a political influencer preaching solidarity and shit.
*8th grader‘s level of geo-politics and world history, too.
Hasan believes in anything that absolves him and his filthy rich tanky friends of accountability for anything, and in anything that assigns maximum accountability to everyone else for anything they do regardless of how small or how many times they did it. He is a sociopath.
His rich jewish friend is fine, but Palestina children are not. The way u western make averything about yourself is crazy
socialism is when no house no money! grow up man@@TubeWusel
I'm in support of destiny reaching out to Ethan and giving him a crash course in debates strategies, and the sociopathic nature of Hassan.
There is a point where a person has to realize that a person you consider a friend would laugh and point if you were killed over your ethnicity. That you would deserve it. At that point, you just need to cut off all contact.
he is a Turk after all, there isnt any ethnicity they havent abused. its the old Ottoman genetics.
@@kongvinter33 It has nothing to do with genetics. He’s a poorly read communist, a woke narcissist, a literal racist, and an overgrown spoiled millennial brat. That’s aaaallllll nurture. The first three make him dangerous, and the last one makes him infuriating AND dangerous.
You have to get a kick out of how much Hasan is leaning on ~international law~ to justify Hamas' behavior, but brings up _Hamas'_ violations (like hiding rocket launchers behind citizens) of the Geneva Convention precisely zero times.
Still dont get how people actually watch Hassan, dude's an actual psychopath
I am no longer a fan of his. I gave him the benefit of the doubt at first but this is completely changed my view of him. I don't consider anyone who defends Hamas leftists.
Hassan has won the social media game of terrible takes. He always manages to out do his last terrible take. We might be in the territory of evil takes.
More people need to make content ousting Hasan for all the double standards and bullshit he did over the years. There's got to be so much material.
All the takes on USSR etc. he never cared for oppressed countries.
Only the ones that suit his narrative.
Might be? Bro he's clapping and cheering for families being massacred, children watching their parents executed in front of them, their siblings murdered in front of them...... The things Hasan and his buddies were calling "BASED" were just unbelievably awful, my fucking soul is forever branded with some of the videos I saw, and he's clapping for it. It's not maybe in the territory of evil, we are well beyond holocaust denial at this point, because at least they're pretending it didn't happen and not celebrating 6 million dead jews.....the far left is celebrating dead children, they're not pretending it's a false flag to hide their evil, they're saying "yes it happened and we're really really happy about it."
Wait, what exactly are you referring to? which videos were they watching? Was it the same guys from a video where hasan and them talk about how all israeli citizens are basically "military" because they all have to serve in the army or some shit?@@tooitchy
Hasan also wanted extreme lockdowns on the working class during covid. He has 0 principles and supported the biggest wealth transfer upwards we saw and the inflation now.
I’ve never seen someone squirm so much on a podcast. Honestly, hats off to Hasan for his ability to be utterly obtuse and cowardly in his defense of terrorism.
Hasan without a doubt was celebrating when Jewish women were getting raped while their family was getting executed.
you should watch the full thing hasan was far more knowledgeable on the topic and ethan would just bring up random ass tweets and not real historical context on the conflict so it was laughable
@@saraearriazola4915 I watched live unfortunately. Ethan spent like 2 hours denouncing the actions of Israel and as soon as he brings up grievances with the other side Hasan immediately starts running defense and minimizing every criticism as "unproductive". He's an actual worm which is funny because he likes to use slurs like gusano.
@@saraearriazola4915 Hassan abuses Ethan's lack of knowledge on the topic in order to convince him of insane lies about Israel, and then act like he's actually educating him.
I've been studying the Middle East and Israel/Palestine for 20 years, including international law, and Hasan has been saying absurd amounts of bullshit.
Ethan is either too scared to defend himself against his massive crowd of far-leftists, or is just very uneducated on many of the relevant issues.
@@saraearriazola4915who gives a fuck about historical context, Hasan is justifying the torture of Israeli babies. It doesnt get more obvious how pro hamas he is.
Bro this was insane poor ethan being manipulated by an absolute psychopath
chillout, he isnt even the 1% of what is a psychopath or sociopath, he's bad at both, like the fake laugh, touching hair, eating nails
@@ErcoleBellucci Yeah Hasan is pretty dumb.
Hasan and Hasan's chat are nightmares. Im surprised Ethan and Hasan can still work together.
@hasanAbi Hasan's chat reflects him. They're toxic bullies. His chat is either spamming emotes or bullying anyone who has a different opinion. When he spots someone with a different take he pulls their logs up to signal to chat to harrass the person and send death threats in their whispers. His chat is also extremely racist and they doxx and harass poc on the internet on a regular basis.
Only because Ethan values the friendship more than his views. Even though Hasan won't think the same about that.
@@remko4112 because it 100% is about views for hasan. remember when Hasan got so invested in playing video games lives with big streamers like dunkey and critikal then like a few months later completely ghosted all those streamers he played games with? It's because he sees these collaborations as solely for getting more views and not building a community.
@@HerveyShmervyI still don’t understand how someone could be friends with a guy like Hansan he’s a rat that likes the idea of communism just so he could stay rich while the rest stay the same the guy is insurable enough to be in a room with him ,nothing this guy says can back up his disputes .
Update...Ethan disbanded the podcast so it's all over now
This was a crazy awful leftovers and everyone was dogging Ethan for having a good take and hypeing hasan like he wasn’t fake crying.
its fucking pathological
“Ethan shouldn’t let Hasan radicalize his audience”
Me: “That’s what he’s actively been doing since he suckered Ethan into doing Leftovers. Now he has a fanbase of wokescolds and tankies who are out for blood.”
Yep H3 subreddit is pretty cringe now
Ngl I was an h3 fan first then Ethan announced he’s starting a podcast with hasan. Has no idea who he was so I started watching his stream and got sucked into the tankie shit. It really is a pipeline just like the far right
@@scentlessxapprentice Except the far right isn't a pipeline, there's literally no connection between ben shapiro, and nick fuentes, they're universes apart because you go to the right as you realize gov't is horrible and ruins everything, so you want less and less of it in your life, then you what, get far enough right and reach the groypers and nazis who advocate for race socialism? ethnostate fascists do not connect with conservatives in any way other than they both are more traditional in how they'd like the culture to be, but politically they're not even in the same sport.
whereas it's a fuckin interstate superhighway to go from default liberal to full on tankie, as every social media pushes you in that direction, culturally we're moving that direction, etc.
Not to mention it's actually been shown that the "pipeline" actually moves people more to the center, from the right, whereas censorship and cancel culture (banning everyone with standard conservative opinions) pushes people directly to the "far right" because being banned doesn't change your views, it just isolates you from reasonable people, and leaves you nobody but the crazy extremists to speak to.
@@TubeWusel This is an aspect I wish Destiny wouldn't dismiss, and de-emphasize so much, it's a huge part of what is going on, to say palestinians dont hate israel for any reason other than their treatment, is insane, they teach from a very young age that killing jews is good, and god demands that they kill all the jews. They act this out in school plays, they chant this every day at mosque, they blame jews every chance they get, it's why they refuse a 2 state solution, it's why they chose to put Hamas in charge instead of focusing on improving Gaza and becoming a respectable nation, because they don't want that as long as israel exists, they would rather live like they are now, fighting to destroy israel, than to live in better conditions, in coexistence with israel. To say that even most of this is purely out of "treatment of palestinians" is absurd, because when they were in better conditions, but with more attacks on israel because of it, people said the same things.
What I truly cannot understand, is why israel is responsible for conditions in Gaza.... They gave Gaza to palestinians, pulled out completely, that goodwill was met with violence and bloodshed, they responded by tightening the border and not facilitating trade with them, because why would they? Why should they have to do so much to help out people who want to wipe them off the planet? Gaza shares a border with Egypt too, they could easily facilitate trade through that border, but they don't, and Egypt doesn't even want to because the palestinians attack them when they don't blockade Gaza as well, they literally attack everyone who helps them out, so none of their allies in the region will help them with anything except weapons and bombs, because all they are to the muslim world is a political tool to attack israel, and a volatile people to physically attack israel.
Yeah, the history of Israel is pretty much being attacked by multiple armies (mostly Egypt and Jordan), winning, then offering a two-state solution, being denied this solution, repeat …
People need to give Hasan more pushback and accountabilty when he makes some of these insane claims. Ethan caves in way too soon sadly and gives his accusations about Israel instant merit even if they are blatantly false. I guess that is why Hasan likes him so much.
Defending Hamas is like supporting a school shooter because his family was killed by the school bully, so he decided to kill his bully and his family. Its not right but its a more fitting analogy than the most upvoted one.
Hasan doing to Ethan what he said Destiny did to Trihex over the N-word shit really is insane. The craziest part is that instead of something entirely inconsequential like potentially saying the n-word in private as a joke, it's Hasan dismissing Ethan while defending people laughing at and cheering for the murdering of innocent people.
Exactly. The line people like Hasan have is insane. He's again using shit like the Nword even used ironically and as a joke because that can eventually lead to someone actually murdering/rounding up black people. Yet, he and his friends can literally cheer on the brutal murder of babies while an actual conflict is happening. Not only does the responsibility for your platform disappear (which Hasan constantly wants his enemies to be responsible for evwry member of their audience) but the slippery slope goes away too. But yeah, Hasan and his friends can say the most insane deplorable shit about dead jewish babies cuz the N word is worse.
Oh no the n word. That totally is equal to people being murdered. Grow up kontol
This younger generation is doomed.
Says every older generation.
Every time I think it's not possible to like Hasan less, he surpasses my expectations.
I am once again here to say Dan is an absolute weasel
I was working when i listened to the whole leftovers this week, so maybe i missed some things or mentally tuned out a bit. I dont remember dan being that involved in the conversation other than wanting to move on to that taylor swift movie thing. What else did he say that was inflamatory?
( I havent watched this destiny review of it yet either. Just getting it in my watched list so i can come back to it)
@@TheFBergeris that who he's talking about I was thinking it was destiny's orbiter Dan and I wanted to know what he did.
@@74rocktiger74 now im not sure which dan he is referring to honestly haha. Ill watch this in a bit and find out i guess
Yea he genuinely seems like a terrible person. His condescension and self righteousness are absolute cringe.
I've found myself frustrated by dan in some of the more recent clips, but I really don't understand the issue with this most recent podcast, he barely spoke at all.
he's also generally such a joy on 99% of the other episodes.
I don’t know why they call them “settlers”, Jews have been lived there for thousands of years, even before Islam was created.
in the end of the day its just a word used to argue racist/xenophobic beliefs tbh
because there are israeli settlements lmao
@@yeriscarat9241 why didn’t they call it a Arab settlement after the Muslims came 7th century after the Romans
i watched this live and i felt so bad for Ethan. he can’t get a single shred of empathy out of Hasan despite showing overwhelming empathy for the other side. tough to watch tbh.
When you've convinced yourself that you're on the "good" side, you can justify anything.
He is rich jewish man living in the west! How many Palestinians die complaire to israelis! Imagine people colonizing your land and make u the bad guy
@@messi-mk3cqsociopath behavior. Innocent lives are still innocent lives
@@messi-mk3cq pee pee poo poo
Hasan's unceasing mindless anti-US stance on any and everything never fails to blow my mind.
So you support baby settlers taking Palestine land !!!??
BuT hAvE yOu CoNSidErEd aMeRIcA bAd?!
90% of anti western people reside in comfy western countries
Pretty sure at this point you can file a terrorist report on him and have it actually go through
I mean it's made him a lot of money, so why change now
Australia has a large MIddle-Eastern community, particularly Lebanese. Sydney is known to have enclaves of them. It's absolutely en-pointe for them to show up and chant something so despicable. They've done this sort of thing in the past, the country gets outraged, they lie low for 3 months and forget. It's basically yearly.
I can't wait for the day that Destiny replaces Hasan on LeftOvers. I'll actually start watching it that day.
how likely do u think that’s going to happen? I dont wanna get my hopes up
I was really starting to have hope for Ethan, but that apology is a really bad sign.
He just bowed to the most radical elements of his fanbase. Absolutely embarrassing.
I don't blame him, he's in an impossible position.
@@k.-flynn He's a millionaire who podcasts for a living. How the fuck is that "an impossible position?"
If he's not in a position to tell the truth, no one is. You're just excusing cowardice at this point.
@k.-flynn yeah, pretty much. Like destiny said, Ethan is in an emotional state, which is totally fine and understandable, and trying to actually connect with hasan and hasan is just in debate bro mode.
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Its funny when hes so anti debate bro, but then acts like this. Its so patronizing.
I feel like ethan can run laps around him, hes got the chops to actually get to the meat of peoples positions. Hasan cant handle that so he blubbers his way through convos. Anytime ethan ask him to take a stance hasan cant and its weak. Its toxic for ethan. Hes coming in wanting to know what hasan feels and everytime hasan just gaslights and wiggles around. So far every convo between the two has been the same old dance.
I wouldn't hold this convo against Ethan, he's trying to be so good faith he's getting bowled over.
People's true colors really come out in times like this. The things they will condone the things they will condemn and won't condemn really tells you a lot.
reading Hasan's discord is like a try not to become radicalized challenge
but micro aggressions are the biggest problem in the world
Hasan's community would make for a fascinating case study on irony poisoning.
Hasan's audience has taught me to believe that any self-proclaimed empath is actually a narcissist under the hood.
It is nice to see people show their true colours so openly.
Not that it surprises me.
I know right. Israel is finally just comitting warcrimes in the open.
I would wager that Hasan doesn't even know that there wasn't a single Israeli (or Jew) in Gaza prior to this attack.
Also, the absolute irony of people arguing that Jews have no claim to the land, but that it's Palestinians' ancestral homeland. Palestinians are only called "Palestinians" because Rome thought it would be hilariously humiliating to name the people it located there once it ousted the Jews (hundreds of years before Mohammad was said to have lived) after the Jews' historic enemies, the Philistines.
The inability to condemn Hamas is honestly mind blowing, pun intended. I would like to think that Hamas is not a reflection of Palestinian people and I don't think the current war effort by Israel is humane, so shocking IDF celebrations. But you have to unequivocally call Hamas a terrorist organization. I'm from Ireland and would call the IRA's actions in Northern Ireland as terrorist. But so were the UVF. You need to stop radical positions for peace to happen.
Few weeks ago I commented how I was afraid Ethan would crumble on a serious topic without support from his peers and it seems that is getting closer to reality... There is still a glimmer of hope that Ethan sees his "friend" for what he is, but it's getting dimmer every time he has to fight for his values alone.
I lost hope for Ethan some time ago, but now that he seems to be getting reality check, I root for him more than ever before.
I’m with you. I am finding myself more aligned with Ethan than ever before. I really hope he sees things for what they are and sticks by his morals as I do believe he has a strong moral compass
Ethan is there with an open mind for a conversation with his friend Hasan is there with a closed off mind trying to have a debate with a possible political adversary
I always saw Hasan as a lazy clown but this...
This is fucking unreal.
You just know if Hasan had been a guest on that episode of the tankie podcast, he would have let those comments from the other two slide - and maybe even joined in himself - and that would have been the end of his stint on Ethan's podcast. I wish that was this timeline instead of a different one.
Also, obligatory reminder that Second Thought has another channel where he test drives luxury cars. You couldn't write this stuff better if you tried.
Ethan has more in common with Destiny then Hasan honestly
Hasan doesn’t have anything in common with anyone near normal
Ya'll keep using the term "settlements" these weren't settlements, these are towns in Israel. The settlements are in the west bank.
Every time i think Hamas Piker cant be more of a scum, he just proves me wrong. Amazing!
hasans chat during this is actually frightening to watch holy fuck
I lost it at "there ARE baby settlers"
I've always cringed while watching Hasan talk about literally anything, but seeing the live feed of his Discord reacting actually made me cry. I can watch a figurehead babble nonsensically all day, but real human beings drink in this poison and mock dead children for no reason other than ideological purity is just too depressing. When will you have enough money to stop this, Hasan? You are turning a generation of kindhearted, normal people into bloodthirsty ideologues with no love for anything but theory.
There doing that to gain soldiers for when these middle people attack the west and it’s Allie’s they’ll have sleeper cells in the country
were they kind hearted to begin with?
@@lowserver2they were children. And now they’re growing up to be evil adults.
I just love where the lines are with people like Hasan. If a youtuber/streamer simply still used gay to=lame and that youtuber/streamers audience followed suit. Hasan wpuld act like they are completely homophobic scum and that rhetoric feeds into greater homophobia to the point of eradicating gays. Yet, when his fanbase and his friends literally dehumanize jewish people and jewish babies who were brutally murdered and cheering that on. All of a sudden those youtubers have no influence and their opinions dont matter and they have no responsibility for thwir audience of a million subscribers.
It's more evil than even that because he's not doing it for the money. Once you realize that you'll see how fucked up he really is. He actually wants to be way more extreme than he is here and even on his own stream. This is him restraining himself.
Baby settlers are the worst.
Those damn! Baby settlers!!!
It's genuinely upsetting watching Hasan treat Ethan like some out of touch older relative. "Ya okay buddy let's slow down now" it's so patronizing.
This Ethan guy as just realised that all his friends hate him
This is probably gonna be the issue that breaks up the show and maybe even turns Ethan back a bit.
He’s already been slowly inching away from far left takes by arguing with Hasan the past few months and this issue clearly impacts him and Hasan in completely different ways and their reactions/world views on such a fundamental issue (I.e. extreme political violence) are so completely different
“Selective empathy” is more accurately characterized as performative pity
Hamas Piker has no spine
*In a perfect world, people like Hasan Piker don't exist... But this is not a perfect world.*
By all the laws of physics and logic, people like Hasan Piker shouldn't exist. And yet he does, making me question the reality even further.
Hopefully the universe will correct this error sooner rather than later.