How I bid drywall!
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- Biding dywall can be nerve recking if you are just starting off. Here is some pointers that I use to help me crank out the bids without shooting myself in the foot. Nobody wants to shoot themselve in the foot.
Great video. You nailed all of the key components in a very straight forward manner.
-efficiency, time is money
-show up, answer your phone
-know your worth
-pain is gain
SOLID!!! Thank you.
Love the sincerity and commitment. I learned a lot.
I glad to hear that!
Thanks for the advice, very helpful for start ups.
thank you for the feed back. I'm very happy you found the video useful
@@1mandrywallarmytv144
Hey man can you help me in how to estimate metal framing and acoustic ceiling please
@@jorgefmf1031 I can help with metal studs but nt t frid. i need some info regarding the framing that is being done.
I agree with you!! time is money, BUT this works pretty well when you are giving a rough price or a true price. But you could also waste money if you don't look at the finish schedule on the plans for each ceiling and walls and you end up over price or you do get the contract and not every wall or ceilings get drywall and you sent the material regardless, extra material on site its also a waste of money. this is mainly for custom homes or custom commercial in this days . I used the 3.5 rule and does work, but I feel confident to used it to provide rough prices.
thank you for this video though good stuff
It's differently a good starting point to bid drywall. Ultimately looking at the job to confirm the numbers makes sense is recommended on every job. And yes the finish will play into the big picture . Thank you for watching my friend!
Thank you for share your knowledge 👍 much appreciated
my pleasure
Thank you, your videos are great!
Pastor Gunner Johnson I appreciate you watching and supporting God bless you my friend
I'm not mad at the ridiculous idiots who slap mud on walls and call themselves drywallers either bro. I just feel bad for the negative experience the homeowner gets and our names being marred. Keep up the videos bro! I love the articulate content.
I am glad you're not mad at the ridiculous idiots who slap mud on walls and call themselves drywallers either bro....because......really ...THOSE idiots ....including yours truly....LOL...are called tapers. Lots of ignorant people seem to put the two trades together....but they are not the same at all...they are as different from each other ,as the framer is to the cabinet maker
@@MolloRelax Totally get what your saying Mollo Im talking about people who rip people off with shit work. I do million dollar homes in Colorado/Historic homes from 1800's in Manitou springs Cheyenne mountains and even those folks get chumpped. Its so easy for anyone who has never done drywall to buy a couple of sheets and a play with all elements of the craft in thier own time. Its So when I see folks get taken advantage of, I feel like theres no excuse for that bad business in our industry. Thats what I was getting at. I also appreciate what you said.
Appreciate your wisdom!!
Glad it was helpful!
You da man. Appreciate your perspective
I appreciate your input!
Said like a true professional
If you are drywalling duplexes,townhouses,or any multi-apartments buildings.... make sure to calculate the surplus boards required for fire code applications.A 20x8 wall that separates two adjacent units will have to be doubled up in thickness ,with fire code board,.....usually 5/8 thick too...., therefore adding quite a bit to the final estimate.
exactly why I say every job is different. Thank you for your input and watching
Great video keep working hard brother
Thank you for the insight!!
I do times 4 for 9ft ceilings. I'm also around the same price as you. Thanks for the vid
thats great to hear how somebody making that money. We are fighting against a low balling industry. Keep up the good work!
@@1mandrywallarmytv144 thanks man I agree.. cheers from Vancouver Island Canada 🍻🌞
you seem like an honest person, and that goes a long way with me rather than a fast and/ or smooth talker, I had a guy shamoo me once with all the fanciest terminology the trade had to offer, I was intimidated by his eloquent rhetoric and how fast his hands were working as he talked, I didn't want to seem like i wasn't as savvy as he was, so I hands him a blank check and the keys to my new pick-up for the materials, but when he doesn't show back up by that evening, I goes in to ask my wife had she heard from this guy, got a call or something, and low and behold SHE'S GONE TOO! well I says to myself as I grabs me head in my two hands " I been BAMBOOZLED'!
dang bro so sorry for that experience, I hope you are bouncing back quickly, best regards
Please do one about metal stud framing, thanks for your time and video👍🏽
I will, thank you for your input!
I measure every wall. Typically I get a pdf of the floor plan. I mark up the wall heights on the floor plan pdf, or printed floor plan. And then use specialized measuring software to measure the job. Unless it is a remodel where there are no relevant plans. Then I measure with a laser distance tool all walls and ceilings. I charge per window wrap. I charge extra labor for anything over 9 or 10 feet in elevation. I measure and charge for linear feet for Fry Reglit. I charge extra for round walls, etc.
sounds good. Everybody seems to have a different way to tally the total number. I really appreciate the reply you just gave. In the end not every job do i bid the same, ultimately making good money is my primary objective. thank you for watching
Thanks, I feel honesty here!!!
awesome video.
I like to style man ;) I look forward to work in Dry Wall in Canada pretty soon.
Greetings from Uruguay!
How Is going in Canadá Cristian?
your the best brother love ya god bless
Great video!
I appreciate that , thanks for watching
Getting better after this cool guy advice!!!💯💯💯
hahahaha thanks for watching may you prosper abundantly!
@@1mandrywallarmytv144 give this man a thumbs up guys.
Love the video and the information. Question, this is just for hanging correct? Not taping included? Thank you for the video and your knowledge!
Greatvideo. Couldnt help but notice the two lightening bolts on inside of arm.
I have a question, I feel stupid asking this, as I've done it both ways, but what is the correct way. When there's a recessed joint running across the wall and butt joint intercets and runs vertically into it.
When your mudding the butt joint, do you stop as your approach the beveled seam , or do mud right through it , stopping on top of the beveled seam?
Does this philosophy include hang finish and texture?
Sir thanks for your video.
Could you make a video on how to estimate steel frame and how the payment process works when you get the contract, how we determine that from the start day of work when I will get money to run business expenses at the running project.
I plan in it. I am current Down with covid Im sitting on 2 commercial jobs as soon as I get out of here
Hi @1mandrywallarmytv Could I request your help? My father recently had a stroke and became very ill. He ran a small Drywall business where he would give bids. I am trying to bid while he is recovering but I am not too sure how to interpret his past bids. I keep seeing the number (4.8) where you have your (3) in his notebooks which reminds me of your rule of 3's. Do you have any idea what that could signify?
could you provide more info regarding this 4.8 number so i can help find its relevance
Good stuff thanks buddy.
I appreciate that
@@1mandrywallarmytv144 God bless 😁👍
Nice video. Thanks
Can you do a video on board count? Thxs
Hello 1mandrywall firt time here you earn my subscription . thank you.
Just want to ask for a big favor
¿How does the 3.5 works?
If I understand right you want to know about 3.5 Times floor spare. Meaning if a home is 1000 square ft in floor spare than if you use the 3.5 Times rule giving you approximently 3500 in board space . This allows you a preliminary view of the job before you actually see it in Person.
Question??? A hurricane just hit florida. I just ran a great flood demo gig. Went great. I’ve done drywall for a year as employee. I want to run my own business, LLC and insured ect. Can I get away with charging $20k an average size house. Just to sum it up and move on?
Good question. However it is a little loaded . To be honest you are being very vague by saying the average size house. How about speak in terms of total sq ft of board space and the type of texture and ceiling height and so forth. Those are the thing that matter when it comes to bidding. Does the job require. What part of town make a difference as well. I like how you are ambitious but put the client first! Build relationships and base pricing around that and the actual cost of doing business and their budget. Not every job opportunity gonna work out right for you. You will learn how to jump or run. I've run from many jobs opportunities if I get red flags blaring off of the charts I don't bother. That take time and experience to avoiding the losers. I wish you the best. Best regards Andrew
So how much would u charge for 1,129total sq ft of wall space that drywall/tape/mud till primer ready
Nice channel I just subscribed!!!
Ken FromtheFuture Thank you your comment means a lot.
it usually does. Every job is different. Make sure you make a reasonable amount of money.
Thank you I am glad that you found my Video uswful. Much regards
Excellent video breakdown. What would you charge to sheetrock, tape and mud a 2100 sq ft house? Based on your experience what is a competitive price & what price is highest robbery?
Such a loaded question. So many variables. Let's say 2100 square foot with 8 foot ceilings. Orange peel texture. No paint. Standard rental dwelling type of unit. $5000 labor $1500 material and stocking fee total $6500! 1 day to hang and 2 days to finish. 1 extra day to cover surprises 4 calendar days get it done taking your time make more than reasonable good money. I work 6 months a year in the pricey county of San Diego California and still live comfortably!
@@1mandrywallarmytv144 2100 sq ft of drywall or 2100 sq ft floor space? How many men to hang this in 1 day?
@@jamese9283 3 to hang. 2100 sq ft of Board space. Lol no records wete broken.
@@1mandrywallarmytv144 Yeah, sounds like a comfortable pace. I'm thinking you pay each of your guys ~250/day and your pay for this job would be ~750/day?
About 16 grand with garage
Have a question does the 3× rule include demolition??
It could if you are demoing the entire job otherwise I would measure it up and create a demo number all by it self. This way you are not doing any demo for free. I hope you will make righteous money on this job.
Thanks for info
you're welcome
Thanks for this video and taking the time to explain things clearly! I’m trying to start something with my husband, he knows all the labor work but I’m trying to learn the bidding and all the other details needed to run a drywall business. I know how to read and understand blueprints so that’s a big plus, and I’m about to buy the books for the state exam. Any advice for someone who wants to start? I think I’m mostly scared about not passing the state exams. Is the license necessary to bid? (Sorry if that’s a dumb question)
It's no problem. Rates differ from region to region so be sure to keep that in mind!
Definitely
I need to do drywall in your area! Lol
hey girl if you need help still with questions let me know help my husband as well
What's your IG? Instagram?
2.50 a sf to texture? Was that just an example bc people won't pay that around here for sure.. good video though
Just starting to branch out on my own doing drywall, and just finished my first job solo. I’m moving onto my second solo job, and the biggest obstacle I have run into is how to properly bid and getting correct amount of material. Any and all advice and tips are appreciated!
usually around 50-60 cents a sq foot for materials
How long it take you to do your first job
@@sourenlokes a little over a week, with no help, and no lifts. tough, but doable!
@@levihollis nice I want to start doing my own little jobs on the side
That’s why I’m asking
Thank you for the reply
have a good one
That is my issue. I GM haven’t found the sweet spot for bidding.
Thank you
Does that include installing the drywall or just finishing?
I was wondering the same thing. I used to do drywall but a long time ago. A one point, he makes reference to whether the work is smooth or textured. That made me wonder if he was talking the finishing.
I really hope anyone answers but how much do you ask upfront? Or how does that work? Any legal documentation in order to avoid getting stiffed? I brand new at biding and have gotten stiffed twice. I threatened one with a link after reaching out to the store unit real estate agent and they paid up. But how can I avoid this and wording it to them on how much I require upfront?
depends on many things in
California you can get only 1000 or 10% what ever is less for a deposit. Once you start the job ask for more. Have all of this in writing require a signature Be specific stating how much money on what dates and so on. Hope that helps
Can you teach us how to do a level 5 smooth finish without sanding a ton?
There’s no way you can do a perfect level 5 smooth without sanding.
@@PerezTony420 i can
I've done it, several times. Usually tape, then run 2 coats in the direction of the tape. 3rd coat: run the knife across the tape,... then 2 full surface skims... alternate direction on 2nd full skim. Should only need to use a sanding sponge in a few spots, when done.
Feria can you explain a little more please this sounds dope. Sorry for not knowing the lingo.
Thanks bro
Does anyone have tips on when to use 12’ or 16’ sheets over 8’. Obviously you will when you can, but not always.
On the 3xrule what if customer provides materials?thanks
just minus the materials from your number and there you have you labor number. dont forget to add profit and overhead.
3 weeks 24k job framing drywall
Can you explain to me a bit more the x3 rule?
it's a starting point to get going on how much sq ft of drywall space the job might have. It mainly applys to residential with 8 ft ceilings.
Can you tell us what is the right price to charge for metal Studs framing? Great video by the way 👍🏽
champ
price change in every state?
the actual rate could and does vary from state to state. This video shows the quick process that I use to bid jobs fast without using tons of time bidding jobs that I may not get. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching!
Does this method work for 9 ft walls?
that's a great question . And yes the higher you go the more you should be charging. Once your feet leave the ground your time just doubled at minimum. For example if you bid work at 8 foot ceilings then from 8 ft up would require a price increase. The client rarely understands how quickly high work slows down production. You need past performance to how data to work from. Adjust your numbers from there
Can you bid by the sheet ?
Yes
Good
Im glad you enjoyed that
Very good info, God blessed you!! Do you know how much could be the lowest for commercial jobs like hotels or stores lets say. Hung, finish and sand 4x12 sheet. I am in Ohio and and i know prices change from region. Thank youu!
I'm kinda new to all this but all I do right now is I plaster walls/tape, patches, and texture(Age 20) and would like to know how to charge because lately we have been doing alot of remodeling and when it comes down to getting paid we get paid cheaply over here in Vegas. I would like to know if anyone could give me some advice or a link to a video to help me have a better idea how to accurately charge prices for Taping, doing Patches, and texture.
at 20 I can feel your ambition. However bidding requires planning, budgeting and hard work. Dont sell yourself short. With time you will understand the game. Vegas aint that cheap so get that out of your head. You can make good especially in commercial. Cheers
@@1mandrywallarmytv144 do you know the proper way to charge because I have been doing this ever since age 18 right now I understand and know how to do everything when it comes to taping, patches, and texture but what I don't understand is how to properly charge and it's been getting to me because sometimes I have to be up 12-15 balancing on a plank or on stilts off ground on remodeling houses and for us to get paid very little since it's three of us who are doing this as a group it sucks but hopefully I'll figure out something.
@@martindelira5014 Hey man I'm currently studying for my drywall contractor's license. I strongly recommend you purchase "walker's building estimator reference book" as a great starting point for guidance on how to bid drywall properly. I strongly recommend you also purchase "Builder's guide to accounting". And one final word of advise: develop labor and material time and cost records!!! Why? So that you have a point of reference for future work base on on your past experience. Remember the point of the bid is to compensate yourself for the value you bring even after paying all your direct cost and overhead. Also keep in mind that the sweet spot is having privity (direct contract relationship) with the client: from there, the money flows down. Therefore: Aim at eventually getting your license if you don't have it yet. Good luck man!
@@johnp4871 thank you very much
@@martindelira5014 Of course.
If its lots of bead and vaults just go $3.00 aft
How can I bid on only installation of drywall
Thats easy. If you are just hanging board you can either submit à number and do it by thé job oe give them à sq ft price. Always pay yourself right! Drywall can be brutal so you should be compensated properly. Thanks for watching
3 for estimate , 3.7 for the invoice !! I think its 4.2 for 9'
sounds good my friend I need to raise my prices, lol thanks for watching
Not getting a job is not the worst. Working for free is the worst!
Where are you located 1mandrywallarmytv
San Diego county!
Sorry but I’m trying to understand the 3x? Where did that number come from? Thanks
3x method is used to calculate how much sq ft of drywall space yo should have on a residential drywall job with 8 ft ceilings. The 3x ruler is used as a preliminary method calculate the amount of drywall there without measuring every single wall. Hope that helps
Nobody wants to shoot themselves in the foot, das facts
Amen to that. Alot of people do though
I CHARGE 1 TO 2 TIMES MATERIALS IS THAT WRONG
that could work in certain situations, however if you did every job that way that could get you into trouble. Itemize your expenses that way you are covered!
Anybody from Georgia?
$9000 for a 10x10 wall? No damn way!
I wish, lol. But 1000 sounds good to me no paint
isn't it 100x100?
3.5 divided by the size of the rock being uses
huh?
@@1mandrywallarmytv144 47 years,3.5 works perfect
@@1mandrywallarmytv144 and you still have to figure stairwell seperate
actually 3.75 a room 12 /12 is 144 sq times 3.75 is 11.25 pcs of 4/12 rock no guessing as you seem to do
@@ronparrish5895 47 years is a long time.
I LOVE MUD !!
$150 to $200 a sheet. simple.... 3000 divided by 32, a board sq ft times $150 equals $13,950. these days the numbers are good. When this video came out Trump was in office. In the Biden Corporation economy all materials are up 300% and labor must be up accordingly
you are right on! I should do an update video but i lost interest in doing youtube videos. Money goes nowhere like it did with Trump!
i will you your technique of square footage. After years of doing construction your numbers work out. Thank you so much for the tip.@@1mandrywallarmytv144
Everyone is doing it wrong . Let’s say you have 200 sheets my system is to make money . 7 k is what I bid on 200 sheets they pay for material . That’s how I do .
I know guys still doing by the sheet . That’s crazy this work is hard and deserves money like any other trade
Duuuuuuuudddddeee!!! I embarrassed to call myself a contracto!!!r If you are trying to call yourself a craftsman and business man...STEP 1 put down the beer can and turn the camera OFF!!
Hey Shawn are you ok. First off I do not even drink beer second off your spelling has me guessing what exactly are you saying but you sound super mad.
That a sure way no to get a job
please explain Ray love to hear
Blahhh, Blahhh Blahhhh?!! So just get to the $ part....
Lmmfao! This vid should have been 3 minutes max. But ya'll go ahead 🤣
I bid drywall higher than anyone..because were just that good....hire a rookie and you'll see what expensive is....