Good to see Kate back. An interesting story they told here. Does feel like maybe the first 2 were just a tad bit better. What was your reaction? Did we miss anything? Early Drops & Full Reactions on YT Memberships & Patreon: www.patreon.com/baddmedicine Backup channel Subscribe here ua-cam.com/channels/1CLUwA27dz-94o3FR0o3xg.html
Like u said, personal preference coz for me the next one is my favorite… although i love them all…..the next one was soooo good that I’m still HOPING AFTER ALL THESE YEARS for the next chapter if they ever decide to make one…NO SPOILERS, just my feelings and thoughts.
Regarding the heart... Its practically impossible to grab a heart from where she cut, she's cutting the abdomen whereas the heart is in the thorax between the two lungs.. There is a dome shaped muscle called diaphragm partioning the thorax and the abdomen.. Even if she cut the thorax you have to go through the ribs first and there's no space to just grab the heart its tightly placed between the lungs.. I'm no expert in vampire anatomy but i suppose it's the same as humans..😄 It would be more realistic if she had cut it higher and grab it slightly to left side of the lower chest.. I dont know why they make this kind of basic blunders.. They wouldn't even have to consult a medical professional, even just googling the basic human anatomy would have solved it..
Yes, heart massage does work, but as the other commentor said, the whole location was wrong. Going through the abdomen is not how you get to the heart for like what other person said plus hello intenstines. All she had to do was crack the sternum and gently massage the heart, but this is a vampire movie so I try overlooking all their medical flaws cause I kinda love these movies & ur reactions are always so great! thanks as always, u guys are so much fun!!
They changed the lore in this movie. If a Vampire gets bit by a Lycan they are supposed to die. The same way when Vampires bite humans they die they dont turn.. 🤷♂️
1 & 2 were great and this one I do believe is a step below, but I love the introduction of the kid and her powers. And I'm one who thinks the next one is the best one. Eager to see that one here.
Fun fact. After selene drank Alexanders blood in the second movie she became an evolved being. Which means she and her blood can create evolved vampires (day walkers). Her daughter is an evolved hybrid. With the powers and strengths of both parents.
For those who didn't know. So far we've seen not just the two major species but each species has sub species. ( apologies I'm about to go full need) While Michael is a hybrid he is what you call a lycan /vampire hybrid hence why his features are more wolf like. This is due to the fact that he was a lycan first. Some may speculate that Marcus gained his form after reviving from the blood of the lycan in the first movie, due to him being not only a descendant of corvinus his blood also contained the probability of evolving, so he became a vampire / lycan hybrid although this is speculation. Selene being a vampire drinking the corvinus strain pure made her evolved. Gaining extra strength than that of any vampire or vampire elder and removing her weakness to sunlight. Their daughter, an evolved hybrid also has no weakness to both silver or daylight. The lycan father and son who experimented with the blood of the daughter became evolved lycans, both without weaknesses to silver, the son gaining his size while the dad gaining a human lycan form if you can call it.
@@Adam-nm4dz I read somewhere that technically everyone is a hybrid except William that's why he could never turn back. Man I wish they would've finished this series. It would've been cool to have seen The Blade crossover they wanted.
Selene made a cut on her hand, to heal David's heart, so he came back to life, it wasn't just a heart massage, since Selene has the blood of Corvinus, which makes her a super vampire.
I never realized this before but Alexander Corvinus was cleaning up after the vampires and Lycans for hundreds of years after his death they are found out
While Michael does briefly appear in Underworld: Awakening, he's not played by Scott Speedman. Series creator Len Wiseman later explained that after focusing on the Selene/Michael dynamic in the first two movies, part 4 was intended to revolve around Selene and her hybrid daughter. It's unknown if Scott Speedman was approached for Underworld: Blood Wars and turned it down, or if producers decided the character had run his course. Speedman hasn't addressed his Underworld exit in the years since he last appeared, and franchise overseer Len Wiseman has also not acknowledged the actor's absence. Either way, the franchise gave Michael a rather blunt ending that somewhat undermines his status as one of the most powerful creatures within the world of the franchise.
It should be noted Scott also refused to return to the series. He has some bad blood with them I forgot what exactly the drama was about but I do remember him having some sort of beef about it.
Scott Speedman became incredibly famouse after this project, the fans loved the movies and his character Michael Corvin, but then they made the third instalment where he had no role. In the next movie they wanted to do stories about Selene and her daughter and for a strange reason Michael became a support role... "The creators clearly had a different vision", and they kind of wrote him off, Scott Speedman said ""I haven’t really thought about the specifics in terms of story; that’s a very cool character, who doesn’t have an 'origin story.' To see that character in his own thing, yes, of course, that would be interesting to me, in some capacity, whatever that would be. There’s many different tangents and storylines, many different worlds you could play around within all of that. Even within the styles of that genre, you could play around with that character, the dynamics in that world, him being outside of it and reluctant to be a part of it. I love that genre, so it’d be fun for me." I think the creators did not use the character as well as posible, and they just shiftedthe atention on the girls, they could also not kill him off fast because the fans were hoping for him to return... The way the character went was incredibly stupid and it kind of ruined the Universe... the writing just became bad and the last 2 movies killed the franchise.
I hope that Scott returns in the series that they will make of Underworld or at least in a new movie, I bought any invention to bring Michael back, I read an interview of him in variety or I don't know where he said he would be willing to return now or I think he had implied that by saying that he didn't close any doors or he doesn't think he's finished with anything, there is still hope momentarily.
@@JuanitoEsBonitoI remember that Len Wiseman got kinda jealous of the chemistry between Len and Kate during the first 2 movies (beware that Kate & Len were married at the time) so Len didn’t want to Scott to come back to the franchise. Very sad because his character was super interesting!
13:03 • in case no one told you…in the Underworld Universe vampires are alive. They breathe, eat, drink, bleed, have heart beats & so can have children. In one of the Underworld books it is explained that Sonja is the biological daughter of Viktor & his vampire wife Ilona making Sonja a pure blood vampire just like Lucian was a pure blood werewolf & the 1st Lycan. The next/last one, Blood Wars, is my fav!
Regular Vampires cannot revive their kind the way Selene did.. she's able to do that, because she got to trink Alexander Corvinus' blood in the second movie, which made her an advanced kind of Vampire, which David is now as well..
Although Selene is "evolved" since she drank the Corvinus blood, Victor's real daughter did become pregnant in the "Rise of the Lycans" prequel. Her (Victor's Daughter) pregnancy was why he had her put to death.
I don't know why anyone should feel guilty over this lol.. it's a great franchise and badass movies. why call it guilty pleasure. that would apply to something stupid like Twilight lol
@@mayaamis It is just fun and cheesy but well done. I like it but it is more on the cheesy side of movies that is enjoyable but not the greatest plot ever hahah that is why I consider it a "guilty pleasure"
@@lillianbarbieri7771I also have to disagree with u. Nothing cheesy in these movies. When they came out they were considered well made badass horror action movies. They may be a bit dated nowadays but weren’t silly looking at their time. I also have a guilty vampire pleasure movie franchise and its called Twilight.😂
One thing that I must point out: these series aren't settled in the UK. First movie is located in Budapest, the second one in diverse Hungarian locations, Rise of the Lycans somewhere in Hungary, and Awakening is unknown, but it seems like it also takes place in Hungary. Also, the low-budget lycans are a thing that they chose to maintain along the saga. You may like them or not, but they became a thing back in the day and they decided to keep them.
@@strangerthings88 They actually did mix animatronics , puppets and makeup in with the CGI for the Lycans, Super Lycans, Hybrids and Werewolves though as well as Viktor and Marcus`s desiccated forms when they first came out of hibernation . The Underworld franchise doesn`t use as much CGI as most people think. The CGI is mostly for the transformation scenes and when the Lycans` eyes go full white.
@@aspieanarchist5439 I’m aware that’s what I said with a few exceptions. Most other movies don’t even put any effort into it because kids will see whatever I guess. It’s a shake just like the first Matrix was almost perfect then they ruined all the films with awful in your face CGI.
To answer your question on if the truck driver Selene bites in the beginning would turn into a vampire: they established in the 1st movie that vampire/werewolf bites are usually lethal to humans and only a small percentage actual survive long enough to transform.
Also fun fact: despite the fact that Selene is an enhanced vampire and being one of the main characters, she has never once ever growled, hissed, roared or snarled in the series.
That's a good question. But the thing is she's several hundred years old. And I know you might say that if course Viktor is way older what's my point. She might have just out grown that. Not to mention everyone's personality is different. Animals alike. So some react to situations one way, and others react different. She was easily the dopest vamp in her coven. Kraven sucked. She just had a different energy to her. Do to me she was above that because she would rather think than just go all animal in situations. But these are just my thoughts. Nothing more.
The first 2 movies and the prequel they watched before this one all make that clear. They even actively commented on it when it came up in Rise of the Lycans.
Lily Mo (Kate’s daughter) was being bullied in school. One day she took a magazine with a promo shot of Selene holding two guns to school.. next time she got bullied she pulled it out. “THAT’S my mommy”! 😂 Had a movie night with my stepmom when this came out. She didn’t tell me she was terrified. Watched the ENTIRE movie with a smile to make me think she was okay. My dad asked what we watched because she’d been having nightmares for a month. I kept asking if she wanted me to turn it off, and put in another movie. Kept saying no. 😭
I think at this point the crappy cgi/visuals on the werewolves have been such a part of the franchise, I would honestly be sad if they suddenly had amazing looking ones.
Aeon Flux and Ultraviolet were fun, female-fronted futuristic fantasy sci-fi movies too. Aeon Flux is played by Charlize Theron and Ultraviolet was another Milla Jovovich movie. Loved both. I watched the Aeon Flux "anime" back in the 90s as well.
Keep in mind Selene has the blood of a Corvinus in her, she is no longer just a regular vampire which is why she can now walk in the sun, heal somebody with her blood she’s has the blood of one of the first vampires ever. I also think Scott didn’t get to come back to the franchise (this is just what I read) is because him and Kate had an affair but that could just be a scandal and they needed a reason but again just what I read years ago.
This is what one could or would call a cult movie series. Not the biggest budgets some times cheesy but a ton of fun that people still watch decades after they where released .
To be honest with you I didn't really remember this this movie as much as I thought I did but I enjoyed watching your guys's reaction refreshed my memory about it a little bit can't wait for the next one
@@carlosruben3045Based on similar lore that I’ve read, natural born vampires stop aging once they reach physical maturity. That would be somewhere between 18-25.
41:40 That is the whole series. It's made for a specific audience and that audience is getting exactly what they want. This series is not for the average viewer, though even for the average viewer the series is still entertaining, which is good enough for most people.
I actually like the bulky, larger werewolves from the Underworld Franchise. Makes them look more menacing and a force to be reckoned with rather than derpy wolves from other movies. I think the CGI wasn't just up to par considering the budget when you think about movies from today and their ridiculous cost.
13:26 Immortals can have kids you saw it being possible in the last movie. The caveat is from what I’ve seen it’s EXTREMELY RARE & only extremely old and strong vampires or Lycans can I’m talking 1st or 2nd generation immortals. Selene is a 3rd generation immortal through Victor but she’s the first ever Vampire corvinus hybrid. She is right now one of a handful of vampires that has the purest strain of corvinus’s blood in their system. Everyone has been turned via a bite or born from a person without tasting a corvinus’s blood up until Selene. This makes her not just a hybrid now but also now a progenitor. The same goes for Michael as he is the first hybrid ever. Lucien almost had a child with Sonja that kid would’ve not just been the first hybrid but the first natural born one. Though now Eve is as she’s the first natural born hybrid and also a direct corvinus descendant of Alexander making her basically immortal royalty &a immortal steroid for any immortal or human being if she’s bitten or if she bites someone else
8:10 when u asked if the driver was gonna turn, just feeding on victims doesnt impart the virus they need to feed the victim some of their own blood to turn like she did with Michael in the first film
Yeah, the direct "heart massage" after thoracotomy works. It is indicated in cardiac arrest after chest perforating wounds (bullets or stabbing objects). In these cases, normal CPR with chest pumps is not indicated. Have never done it myself, one of my instructors had and he described the experience of feeling the strong cardiac muscle refilling with blood, contracting and start pumping again inside your palm as unique.
25:36 Yes the heart massage is an actual procedure. I’m not medical professional. Though it’s not exactly a very common thing like it’s literally something people will do as a last resort or last ditch effort in certain cases. It does work but it’s not done the way Selene did it there would be WAY MORE PREPARATION AND PROCEDURE. There’s also something known as an open heart shocking ergo internal defibrillation which they assuming your heart is exposed will grab I’d call them tongs that hold your heart in place and they run a precise current through them shocking your heart into a survivable rhythm or possibly reset your heart. Medicine is fun to learn about honestly.
Know you all will not see this - but there are 2 movies that may be of interest... One on vampires starring Milla Jovovich (Resident Evil - Franchise) starring in Ultraviolet (2006) - were she becomes a vampire and her gun are reloaded through tech in her bracelets... It's soo cool... And, because you mentioned - Road House - try - Grindhouse Presents - Death Proof (2007) by Quinton Tarantino... Only try if you have nothing unique to react to and we haven't seen to the point of - over saturation...
I think you would like her in Van Helsing with Hugh Jackman. It has werewolves, vampires, and the Frankenstein Monster. You might like the effects better too.
underworld is definitely one of my favorite series which kind of falls in line with the resident evil movies with mila jovovich in feel. they arent big block buster movies and not critically aclaimed but they are a solid movie
I think you guys forgot last movie Sonia got pregnant by Lucian thus confirming that vampires can get pregnant. I still don't understand why they did Michael so dirty like he was in the movie for a scene and that was it I wish he had a bigger role but oh well
Thanks for reviewing these films and I'm glad you enjoy them and you can relate to what they are and the context they came from. I fell in love with the character of Selene from these movies and I love the stylistic, dark, Gothic vibe. If you like Kate Beckinsale as an action Queen with vampires and werewolves, you should also check out Van Helsing, which was made in the middle of these. She plays a similar type of character, but on the human side, although the mythology is very similar. Again, it's a medieval action fantasy, you don't need to think about it too much and the CGI is not perfect, but I don't think Kate has ever looked better. It's a one-off, but worth a look after you finish this franchise.
In England they do things differently like begin their counting starting at zero. I learned that in the video game Hogwarts Legacy. There's puzzles to figure out but the numbers don't start at 1 they start at 0. Love these movies.😊
Van Helsing with Hugh Jackman is great,..I LOVE the chick vampires. They're super badass. Queen of the Damned. Cheesy but still sweet is the Blade franchise...esp part 2. And I absolutely love 28 Days/Weeks Later movies.
This is the one I've only seen once, but it's still good! Involving the humans knowing about them took it in a new direction & we got introduced to new characters, glad Quinn is really enjoying them too! Again a very underrated franchise that's just bloody awesome!
I've only just found about you.. I don't know how. I've spent the week watching all your fantastic beasts and Harry Potter but I found you from underworld ✌️
The next one "Blood Wars" is another interesting add to the storyline. I really hope they will do at least another one. They do always leave the door open to do that. Love this series even though the CGI is not the greatest. Sort of reminds me of old movies without being perfect.
I never would have watched these movies BUT now that you guys are watching I am watching them right before you do. Been enjoying the journey with you guys. 😮😮
GREAT reaction fellas!! For the record, yes heart massage works😆I had a friend who was a surgical nurse and that was her main job in theater. She was hella short so she had a special step stool she'd bring into surgery so she could be at proper height to access the heart at an easier angle. They also had a way they could set up tool tables for her to lean her chest on to lower stress on her back if it was anticipated to be a scenario she would have to massage for long lengths of time. She told me the longest she ever massaged during surgery was over an hour and said she couldn't use her hands the next day from tightness and forearm cramps from being super worked. She was only 5'4" tall but she was strong!! She was also a ginger so I think that helped keep her going!😂 And yeah, this most certainly wasn't Stephen Rhea's finest work, not by a long shot but I just adore that man! His portfolio of films and theater is phenomenal, once he got my attention in Interview With A Vampire (Santiago) I wanted to see more and I wasn't sorry. He's done some AMAZING films. I'm SURE I've mentioned it in the past and I unfortunately can't remember if y'all told me you've already seen it back in the day, but I would LOVE to see you bois make it through Battlestar Galactica (2004) particularly because y'all are the age you were probably old enough to remember the original, at least in re-runs. Still my favorite Sci-Fi series to date, although Firefly and Farscape give it a helluva run for 1st place🤣
Saw this movie when it came out in 3D. The beginning water to froze bubbles transition was trippy. The silver particles in the air was really cool too.
To your point, the Underworld franchise is my favorite vampire series because It Knows What It Is, and it is a very successful exemplar of That Thing. If you don't like That Thing, then there isn't much in the movies to make you like them despite that. But if what you want is That Thing, you are, in fact, going to get That Thing.
I remember being pretty annoyed and upset that Michael wasn't in the film lol. He was my favorite character in the series so far. But the helpful detective guy or whatever and her daughter were both pretty cool characters, plus he ended up not actually being dead, so by the end I was placated enough. Really wanted to see the family together though. Can't say any more about annoyances in the future due to spoilers but yeah xD fun reaction yall
FYI… Celine usually uses a pair of Beretta 93Rs that have been modified to be fully auto. They have 30 round magazines. That being said, a little suspension of disbelief for the movie magic is also nice.
I appreciated the first 3 when it came out. I actually like the non-cgi werewolves. 4 and 5 are just downhill. You should watch Dog Soldiers! Go in blind (solo film)
Unfortunately, Scott didn't want to do another Underworld. They asked him if they could use his likeness in this film so they deep faked his face onto another person for the few scenes he was in. Rumor has it Scott wasn't happy with the direction the films were going.. which would make sense seeing how Michael just became Selene's lap dog than a unique hybrid creature that's never been created until now.
I think he only have himself to blame as he is originally written as the protagonist, Kate's screen presence stole the spotlight, but he could have done better himself.
Scott finally answered that question of why he wasn't back in the franchise by saying that it was because he simply wasn't in the right mental place to do more Underworld that he was drifting doing few things at that time or nothing at all. I never heard that rumor that he didn't like the script, in fact I didn't watch any of the movies where he wasn't there, which would be from the lycan rebellion to the end, which is a blood war.
I don't think it was about him being a main character. If anything Underworld set them both up as leads. But I do find it odd that MIchael is the only being to ever survive bites from both, his powers unknown and we never really touch on it again. @@TheBlackLakeSiren
8:08 Special rounds don’t matter to her anymore as she’s immune to solar radiation. Also he wouldn’t turn as the workers are all Lycan in disguise. Also fully drinking them stops them from turning
🖤LOVE the Underworld movie series!!! Kris Holden-Reid, the Mega-Lycan was a werewolf in the 'Lost Girl’ tv series -2010-2016 as Detective Dyson -Lost Girl, Bo was a succubus & included so many fantasy characters -Very creative tv series!
Me, my brother and sister love vampires and werewolves. We love the Underworld franchise. Awakening was the first one my mom watched and she loved it, especially Eve. She wanted to watch the others. We binged watched all of them with her. We spent the whole time referring to Michael and Selene as the "Baby Mama" and the "Baby Daddy" because of Eve. Also Viktor was Step Pawpaw Kraven was wannabe "Baby Daddy". We gave other characters nicknames too. 😂😂😂
All the talk about the look of the lycans cgi seems weird to me considering the ones in twilight are just big dogs..or am I missing something? I never watched twilight..I grew up on Anne Rice vampires.. twilight seems super campy to me lol
Hey, guys period love you reactions period if you wanna see Kate beckinsale be a total bad ass in a movie that I personally feel is completely underrated. Check out the total recall remake. It's a movie that keeps some elements of the original but is its own entity in and of itself. I quite enjoyed it. Kate beckinsale and Jessica biel. Victor is in it too in a small role.
“Vampires can’t have kids” Forgot that the whole reason the war started was cause Viktor killed his own daughter cause she was pregnant with Lucian’s baby. 😆
Alexander Corvinus himself said in the second film that he (and his organization) had been the ones who kept it all hidden from human society. With Corvinus dead and his organization destroyed, it was only a matter of time before humans discovered the truth. It's human nature to fear what you don't understand, and if those in power can't use it to serve their goals, they'll exterminate it.
Heart massages are sometimes done during surgery, but those are clean sterile environments. Doing that out in the open would likely cause more harm because the person would most likely become infected from various germs and bacteria. So yes, it is a medical technique that doctors can use to restart a heart, though it is not used often, and I highly doubt a doctor would try it outside of surgery.
Omg you guys should watch daybreakers. It’s about what happens if everyone gets turned into vampires where does the food come from? It’s honestly a decent cheesy(what vampire movie isn’t these days) vampire movie plus willam Defoe doing his best not be green goblin from Spider-Man but your brain still thinks “ok green goblin calm down… are you trying to do a southern drawl green goblin… lol ok”.
Kris Holden-Reid who plays Quint, the Uber-Lycan was the second lead in the TV series ‘Lost Girl’. The heroine in the series was a Succubus, a beautiful bad-ass woman in black leather who hunts at night. (Sound familiar?) Holden-Reid played Police Homicide Detective Dyson Thornwood, who happens to be a 1,500 year old ‘wolf-shifter’, a Werewolf! You guys seem to have watched the original theatrical version of the first film ‘Underworld’ where in Lucian’s flashback Sonja was played by an unknown actress and died as a helpless victim screaming in pain. Other reactors appear to have watched the ‘George Lucas’ version of the first film Underworld where they have replaced the unknown actress playing Sonja with Rhona Mitra from the prequel where Sonja faced her death bravely.
Did she hunt at night? I dont remember that when I watched Lost Girl. I know that she feeds off others but I dont remember her only "hunting" at night. I think it was more of a at random times thing. unless you are stating specifically all the times she has sex during the night?
Good to see Kate back. An interesting story they told here. Does feel like maybe the first 2 were just a tad bit better. What was your reaction? Did we miss anything?
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Like u said, personal preference coz for me the next one is my favorite… although i love them all…..the next one was soooo good that I’m still HOPING AFTER ALL THESE YEARS for the next chapter if they ever decide to make one…NO SPOILERS, just my feelings and thoughts.
Regarding the heart... Its practically impossible to grab a heart from where she cut, she's cutting the abdomen whereas the heart is in the thorax between the two lungs.. There is a dome shaped muscle called diaphragm partioning the thorax and the abdomen.. Even if she cut the thorax you have to go through the ribs first and there's no space to just grab the heart its tightly placed between the lungs.. I'm no expert in vampire anatomy but i suppose it's the same as humans..😄 It would be more realistic if she had cut it higher and grab it slightly to left side of the lower chest.. I dont know why they make this kind of basic blunders.. They wouldn't even have to consult a medical professional, even just googling the basic human anatomy would have solved it..
Yes, heart massage does work, but as the other commentor said, the whole location was wrong. Going through the abdomen is not how you get to the heart for like what other person said plus hello intenstines. All she had to do was crack the sternum and gently massage the heart, but this is a vampire movie so I try overlooking all their medical flaws cause I kinda love these movies & ur reactions are always so great! thanks as always, u guys are so much fun!!
They changed the lore in this movie. If a Vampire gets bit by a Lycan they are supposed to die. The same way when Vampires bite humans they die they dont turn.. 🤷♂️
1 & 2 were great and this one I do believe is a step below, but I love the introduction of the kid and her powers. And I'm one who thinks the next one is the best one. Eager to see that one here.
Fun fact. After selene drank Alexanders blood in the second movie she became an evolved being. Which means she and her blood can create evolved vampires (day walkers). Her daughter is an evolved hybrid. With the powers and strengths of both parents.
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For those who didn't know. So far we've seen not just the two major species but each species has sub species. ( apologies I'm about to go full need)
While Michael is a hybrid he is what you call a lycan /vampire hybrid hence why his features are more wolf like. This is due to the fact that he was a lycan first. Some may speculate that Marcus gained his form after reviving from the blood of the lycan in the first movie, due to him being not only a descendant of corvinus his blood also contained the probability of evolving, so he became a vampire / lycan hybrid although this is speculation. Selene being a vampire drinking the corvinus strain pure made her evolved. Gaining extra strength than that of any vampire or vampire elder and removing her weakness to sunlight. Their daughter, an evolved hybrid also has no weakness to both silver or daylight. The lycan father and son who experimented with the blood of the daughter became evolved lycans, both without weaknesses to silver, the son gaining his size while the dad gaining a human lycan form if you can call it.
@@Adam-nm4dz I read somewhere that technically everyone is a hybrid except William that's why he could never turn back.
Man I wish they would've finished this series. It would've been cool to have seen The Blade crossover they wanted.
Selene made a cut on her hand, to heal David's heart, so he came back to life, it wasn't just a heart massage, since Selene has the blood of Corvinus, which makes her a super vampire.
David is also super too a new species
I never realized this before but Alexander Corvinus was cleaning up after the vampires and Lycans for hundreds of years after his death they are found out
So, he's pretty much the Grandpa who does all the hard work.
the lycans let it it slip to get rid of the vampires
Well wasn’t vampires also cleaning up too burning the body’s
Victory made sure and probably took the dead vamps back to the coven with him
Yes. They said as much in Evolution.
While Michael does briefly appear in Underworld: Awakening, he's not played by Scott Speedman. Series creator Len Wiseman later explained that after focusing on the Selene/Michael dynamic in the first two movies, part 4 was intended to revolve around Selene and her hybrid daughter. It's unknown if Scott Speedman was approached for Underworld: Blood Wars and turned it down, or if producers decided the character had run his course. Speedman hasn't addressed his Underworld exit in the years since he last appeared, and franchise overseer Len Wiseman has also not acknowledged the actor's absence. Either way, the franchise gave Michael a rather blunt ending that somewhat undermines his status as one of the most powerful creatures within the world of the franchise.
It should be noted Scott also refused to return to the series. He has some bad blood with them I forgot what exactly the drama was about but I do remember him having some sort of beef about it.
Scott Speedman became incredibly famouse after this project, the fans loved the movies and his character Michael Corvin, but then they made the third instalment where he had no role. In the next movie they wanted to do stories about Selene and her daughter and for a strange reason Michael became a support role... "The creators clearly had a different vision", and they kind of wrote him off, Scott Speedman said ""I haven’t really thought about the specifics in terms of story; that’s a very cool character, who doesn’t have an 'origin story.' To see that character in his own thing, yes, of course, that would be interesting to me, in some capacity, whatever that would be. There’s many different tangents and storylines, many different worlds you could play around within all of that. Even within the styles of that genre, you could play around with that character, the dynamics in that world, him being outside of it and reluctant to be a part of it. I love that genre, so it’d be fun for me."
I think the creators did not use the character as well as posible, and they just shiftedthe atention on the girls, they could also not kill him off fast because the fans were hoping for him to return... The way the character went was incredibly stupid and it kind of ruined the Universe... the writing just became bad and the last 2 movies killed the franchise.
I hope that Scott returns in the series that they will make of Underworld or at least in a new movie, I bought any invention to bring Michael back, I read an interview of him in variety or I don't know where he said he would be willing to return now or I think he had implied that by saying that he didn't close any doors or he doesn't think he's finished with anything, there is still hope momentarily.
@@JuanitoEsBonitoI remember that Len Wiseman got kinda jealous of the chemistry between Len and Kate during the first 2 movies (beware that Kate & Len were married at the time) so Len didn’t want to Scott to come back to the franchise. Very sad because his character was super interesting!
Has that been confirmed and not just a rumour?
13:03 • in case no one told you…in the Underworld Universe vampires are alive. They breathe, eat, drink, bleed, have heart beats & so can have children. In one of the Underworld books it is explained that Sonja is the biological daughter of Viktor & his vampire wife Ilona making Sonja a pure blood vampire just like Lucian was a pure blood werewolf & the 1st Lycan.
The next/last one, Blood Wars, is my fav!
Regular Vampires cannot revive their kind the way Selene did.. she's able to do that, because she got to trink Alexander Corvinus' blood in the second movie, which made her an advanced kind of Vampire, which David is now as well..
Although Selene is "evolved" since she drank the Corvinus blood, Victor's real daughter did become pregnant in the "Rise of the Lycans" prequel. Her (Victor's Daughter) pregnancy was why he had her put to death.
sonja was also BORN a vampire
@@houseofaction True, So I guess a set of functional ovaries was OE or perhaps the Corvinus blood jump started Selene's...;)
Yes we all saw the prequel already I don’t get your comment?
I love how ironically Oak loves Twilight. Those are still my favorite reactions you guys have done.
They were just so much fun to watch! -Oak
I would feel generous if I rated Twilight as a 2.
This will always be my guilty pleasure franchise. I'm happy you are checking it out.
I don't know why anyone should feel guilty over this lol.. it's a great franchise and badass movies. why call it guilty pleasure. that would apply to something stupid like Twilight lol
@@mayaamis It is just fun and cheesy but well done. I like it but it is more on the cheesy side of movies that is enjoyable but not the greatest plot ever hahah that is why I consider it a "guilty pleasure"
@@lillianbarbieri7771I also have to disagree with u. Nothing cheesy in these movies. When they came out they were considered well made badass horror action movies. They may be a bit dated nowadays but weren’t silly looking at their time. I also have a guilty vampire pleasure movie franchise and its called Twilight.😂
Yesss.. I don’t care what anyone says, this is my Twlight lol I was too old to for that franchise but this is my jam
@@NinjaBee81True. Special Effects are funny like that. When we see better we make that the standard.
Kate in a latex catsuit is always a good reason to rewatch the Underworld series.
One thing that I must point out: these series aren't settled in the UK. First movie is located in Budapest, the second one in diverse Hungarian locations, Rise of the Lycans somewhere in Hungary, and Awakening is unknown, but it seems like it also takes place in Hungary.
Also, the low-budget lycans are a thing that they chose to maintain along the saga. You may like them or not, but they became a thing back in the day and they decided to keep them.
They always looked terrifying to me except when they used too much CGI in this movie. Nothing beats practical costumes no matter what year.
@@strangerthings88 They actually did mix animatronics , puppets and makeup in with the CGI for the Lycans, Super Lycans, Hybrids and Werewolves though as well as Viktor and Marcus`s desiccated forms when they first came out of hibernation . The Underworld franchise doesn`t use as much CGI as most people think. The CGI is mostly for the transformation scenes and when the Lycans` eyes go full white.
@@aspieanarchist5439 I’m aware that’s what I said with a few exceptions. Most other movies don’t even put any effort into it because kids will see whatever I guess. It’s a shake just like the first Matrix was almost perfect then they ruined all the films with awful in your face CGI.
i always keep coming back for kate beckinsale.
To answer your question on if the truck driver Selene bites in the beginning would turn into a vampire: they established in the 1st movie that vampire/werewolf bites are usually lethal to humans and only a small percentage actual survive long enough to transform.
Aye, because it's an infection, with immortality being a side effect if you survive. Possibly even being WHY you survive.
Also fun fact: despite the fact that Selene is an enhanced vampire and being one of the main characters, she has never once ever growled, hissed, roared or snarled in the series.
Because she didn't need to. She was so above that.
@@chimerius24 so guessing from that logic, characters like Viktor or Michael shouldn't be doing that either right?
That's a good question. But the thing is she's several hundred years old. And I know you might say that if course Viktor is way older what's my point. She might have just out grown that. Not to mention everyone's personality is different. Animals alike. So some react to situations one way, and others react different. She was easily the dopest vamp in her coven. Kraven sucked. She just had a different energy to her. Do to me she was above that because she would rather think than just go all animal in situations. But these are just my thoughts. Nothing more.
She was a domesticated house... vampire hybrid.
You guys weren’t paying attention. The first two movies spoke about victors daughter being pregnant by lucian
Additionally, David was born a Vampire.
The first 2 movies and the prequel they watched before this one all make that clear. They even actively commented on it when it came up in Rise of the Lycans.
I dont know if you guys have seen Daybreakers (2010) but that is an awesome vampire movie, and its somewhat of a scientific take on the genre.
Alexander corvinous's blood brought him back. Now he is immune to sunlight.
Lily Mo (Kate’s daughter) was being bullied in school. One day she took a magazine with a promo shot of Selene holding two guns to school.. next time she got bullied she pulled it out. “THAT’S my mommy”! 😂
Had a movie night with my stepmom when this came out. She didn’t tell me she was terrified. Watched the ENTIRE movie with a smile to make me think she was okay. My dad asked what we watched because she’d been having nightmares for a month. I kept asking if she wanted me to turn it off, and put in another movie. Kept saying no. 😭
I think at this point the crappy cgi/visuals on the werewolves have been such a part of the franchise, I would honestly be sad if they suddenly had amazing looking ones.
The werewolves at the beginning of Evolution were pretty damn convincing and good looking.
Aeon Flux and Ultraviolet were fun, female-fronted futuristic fantasy sci-fi movies too. Aeon Flux is played by Charlize Theron and Ultraviolet was another Milla Jovovich movie. Loved both. I watched the Aeon Flux "anime" back in the 90s as well.
Good ones!
Also Salt!
You guys are the only ones I can find who have reacted to this movie so thank you!!!!
Same!
her grabbing his heart to bring him back was more having to do with her special blood from Corvinus
Sonya was pregnant with Lucian child
And Selena and Michael are hybrids
And a new generation
Keep in mind Selene has the blood of a Corvinus in her, she is no longer just a regular vampire which is why she can now walk in the sun, heal somebody with her blood she’s has the blood of one of the first vampires ever. I also think Scott didn’t get to come back to the franchise (this is just what I read) is because him and Kate had an affair but that could just be a scandal and they needed a reason but again just what I read years ago.
This is what one could or would call a cult movie series. Not the biggest budgets some times cheesy but a ton of fun that people still watch decades after they where released .
To be honest with you I didn't really remember this this movie as much as I thought I did but I enjoyed watching your guys's reaction refreshed my memory about it a little bit can't wait for the next one
I would advise "Dracula untold" as a must see
Yes, vampires can have kids. Victor was sonja’s father.
When vampires are naturally born do they grow old???
Possibly in this universe vampires can only have children with nonvampires.
@@carlosruben3045Based on similar lore that I’ve read, natural born vampires stop aging once they reach physical maturity. That would be somewhere between 18-25.
I just want to say the rate at which you guys give us content is amazing. I really appreciate you guys
41:40 That is the whole series. It's made for a specific audience and that audience is getting exactly what they want. This series is not for the average viewer, though even for the average viewer the series is still entertaining, which is good enough for most people.
Selene's blood brought him back and also let him walk in the sun
Ok no need to spoil the next movie
I actually like the bulky, larger werewolves from the Underworld Franchise. Makes them look more menacing and a force to be reckoned with rather than derpy wolves from other movies. I think the CGI wasn't just up to par considering the budget when you think about movies from today and their ridiculous cost.
Hawkeye massaged a heart in MASH, so you know it's real 😮😂
13:26 Immortals can have kids you saw it being possible in the last movie. The caveat is from what I’ve seen it’s EXTREMELY RARE & only extremely old and strong vampires or Lycans can I’m talking 1st or 2nd generation immortals. Selene is a 3rd generation immortal through Victor but she’s the first ever Vampire corvinus hybrid. She is right now one of a handful of vampires that has the purest strain of corvinus’s blood in their system. Everyone has been turned via a bite or born from a person without tasting a corvinus’s blood up until Selene. This makes her not just a hybrid now but also now a progenitor. The same goes for Michael as he is the first hybrid ever. Lucien almost had a child with Sonja that kid would’ve not just been the first hybrid but the first natural born one. Though now Eve is as she’s the first natural born hybrid and also a direct corvinus descendant of Alexander making her basically immortal royalty &a immortal steroid for any immortal or human being if she’s bitten or if she bites someone else
8:10 when u asked if the driver was gonna turn, just feeding on victims doesnt impart the virus they need to feed the victim some of their own blood to turn like she did with Michael in the first film
Yeah, the direct "heart massage" after thoracotomy works. It is indicated in cardiac arrest after chest perforating wounds (bullets or stabbing objects). In these cases, normal CPR with chest pumps is not indicated. Have never done it myself, one of my instructors had and he described the experience of feeling the strong cardiac muscle refilling with blood, contracting and start pumping again inside your palm as unique.
My friend joked Kates husband didn’t want Scott Speedman back after that sex scene in the second film
He’s the one that made them do it…
25:36 Yes the heart massage is an actual procedure. I’m not medical professional. Though it’s not exactly a very common thing like it’s literally something people will do as a last resort or last ditch effort in certain cases. It does work but it’s not done the way Selene did it there would be WAY MORE PREPARATION AND PROCEDURE. There’s also something known as an open heart shocking ergo internal defibrillation which they assuming your heart is exposed will grab I’d call them tongs that hold your heart in place and they run a precise current through them shocking your heart into a survivable rhythm or possibly reset your heart. Medicine is fun to learn about honestly.
Know you all will not see this - but there are 2 movies that may be of interest... One on vampires starring Milla Jovovich (Resident Evil - Franchise) starring in Ultraviolet (2006) - were she becomes a vampire and her gun are reloaded through tech in her bracelets... It's soo cool...
And, because you mentioned - Road House - try - Grindhouse Presents - Death Proof (2007) by Quinton Tarantino... Only try if you have nothing unique to react to and we haven't seen to the point of - over saturation...
I think you would like her in Van Helsing with Hugh Jackman. It has werewolves, vampires, and the Frankenstein Monster. You might like the effects better too.
Effects are terrible in that movie
underworld is definitely one of my favorite series which kind of falls in line with the resident evil movies with mila jovovich in feel. they arent big block buster movies and not critically aclaimed but they are a solid movie
I think you guys forgot last movie Sonia got pregnant by Lucian thus confirming that vampires can get pregnant.
I still don't understand why they did Michael so dirty like he was in the movie for a scene and that was it I wish he had a bigger role but oh well
Plus, she was a vampire's daughter.
@@TheBlackLakeSiren that too!
My first watching this my mouth dropped when I seen the big Lycan lol
I believe the movie "I, Frankenstein" was originally written to be set in the underworld universe. You might want to check it out.
What really?
Thanks for reviewing these films and I'm glad you enjoy them and you can relate to what they are and the context they came from. I fell in love with the character of Selene from these movies and I love the stylistic, dark, Gothic vibe. If you like Kate Beckinsale as an action Queen with vampires and werewolves, you should also check out Van Helsing, which was made in the middle of these. She plays a similar type of character, but on the human side, although the mythology is very similar. Again, it's a medieval action fantasy, you don't need to think about it too much and the CGI is not perfect, but I don't think Kate has ever looked better. It's a one-off, but worth a look after you finish this franchise.
Did I wanna be their child as much as I wanted to be a mermaid as a kid yeah I did 😂
This was always my favorite of the franchise because of the whole humans finding them out and stuff.
In England they do things differently like begin their counting starting at zero. I learned that in the video game Hogwarts Legacy. There's puzzles to figure out but the numbers don't start at 1 they start at 0. Love these movies.😊
Van Helsing with Hugh Jackman is great,..I LOVE the chick vampires. They're super badass.
Queen of the Damned. Cheesy but still sweet is the Blade franchise...esp part 2. And I absolutely love 28 Days/Weeks Later movies.
I had to look up about Scott Speedman and ot say they used archive footage and stand ins. It was bugging me too😂
It was...complicated. There are interviews with Scott on this topic. There are UA-cam videos on the making of this film.
I love when you're doing franchises in general, it's always fun to rewatch with y'all :D
I really hope you guys watch Dracula Untold, Van Helsing, Queen of the Damned, 30 Days of Nights and Daybreakers.
Omg YESSSSS!!! PLEASE!!!!! 🤩
Good October movies! And Kate is beyond gorgeous in Van Helsing
YESS
Yeaaaaa
Bram Stokers Dracula is amazing too
off topic but Mason’s absolutely rocking those bracelets lol love it
This is my favourite vampire franchise, watched it at least 15 times every one, love it
This is the one I've only seen once, but it's still good! Involving the humans knowing about them took it in a new direction & we got introduced to new characters, glad Quinn is really enjoying them too! Again a very underrated franchise that's just bloody awesome!
I've only just found about you.. I don't know how. I've spent the week watching all your fantastic beasts and Harry Potter but I found you from underworld ✌️
The next one "Blood Wars" is another interesting add to the storyline. I really hope they will do at least another one. They do always leave the door open to do that. Love this series even though the CGI is not the greatest. Sort of reminds me of old movies without being perfect.
Yes I have seen cardiovascular surgeons, massaging the heart with their hands as the patient is rushed back to surgery.
Should do Ultraviolet next. :D Still sort of Vampire.
Sometimes in open heart surgery i believe they do massage the heart back into pumping so it is somewhat based in science
Fun fact, the guy who plays the main werewolf also plays a werewolf in lost girl. I guess he was not acting after all !
He plays a zombie in the movie The Returned as well.
I never would have watched these movies BUT now that you guys are watching I am watching them right before you do. Been enjoying the journey with you guys. 😮😮
Kris Holden-Ried also played a werewolf in the TV show "Lost Girl".
I’ve been waiting for the last two..enjoy guys !!
GREAT reaction fellas!! For the record, yes heart massage works😆I had a friend who was a surgical nurse and that was her main job in theater. She was hella short so she had a special step stool she'd bring into surgery so she could be at proper height to access the heart at an easier angle. They also had a way they could set up tool tables for her to lean her chest on to lower stress on her back if it was anticipated to be a scenario she would have to massage for long lengths of time. She told me the longest she ever massaged during surgery was over an hour and said she couldn't use her hands the next day from tightness and forearm cramps from being super worked. She was only 5'4" tall but she was strong!! She was also a ginger so I think that helped keep her going!😂
And yeah, this most certainly wasn't Stephen Rhea's finest work, not by a long shot but I just adore that man! His portfolio of films and theater is phenomenal, once he got my attention in Interview With A Vampire (Santiago) I wanted to see more and I wasn't sorry. He's done some AMAZING films.
I'm SURE I've mentioned it in the past and I unfortunately can't remember if y'all told me you've already seen it back in the day, but I would LOVE to see you bois make it through Battlestar Galactica (2004) particularly because y'all are the age you were probably old enough to remember the original, at least in re-runs. Still my favorite Sci-Fi series to date, although Firefly and Farscape give it a helluva run for 1st place🤣
The way I yell "Badd medicine is BACK" with you guys is getting out of control...😂❤
Saw this movie when it came out in 3D. The beginning water to froze bubbles transition was trippy. The silver particles in the air was really cool too.
This was better than I remembered it being. I hated that Scott Speedman wasn't in it ( they cgi'd his face on another actor)!
Healthcare provider here 👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾…, NO, NOPE!! You cannot not restart a heart in that manner. Not how that works. But I do love this franchise!!!!!!!
The guy that played the bulky wolf also played a werewolf in lost girl too
To your point, the Underworld franchise is my favorite vampire series because It Knows What It Is, and it is a very successful exemplar of That Thing. If you don't like That Thing, then there isn't much in the movies to make you like them despite that. But if what you want is That Thing, you are, in fact, going to get That Thing.
I remember being pretty annoyed and upset that Michael wasn't in the film lol. He was my favorite character in the series so far. But the helpful detective guy or whatever and her daughter were both pretty cool characters, plus he ended up not actually being dead, so by the end I was placated enough. Really wanted to see the family together though.
Can't say any more about annoyances in the future due to spoilers but yeah xD fun reaction yall
FYI… Celine usually uses a pair of Beretta 93Rs that have been modified to be fully auto. They have 30 round magazines. That being said, a little suspension of disbelief for the movie magic is also nice.
Already in the book "The Little Amateur Surgeon", this type of heart massage is very well described.
Michael is subject 0 because his bloodline is the base for their experiments since his a descendent of the original Lycan
In my opinion this is the less beautiful, too urban. But Eve's character.....The most scary character in the franchise. I like her!
Heart massaging is an actual; method used by doctors albeit rare.
I appreciated the first 3 when it came out.
I actually like the non-cgi werewolves.
4 and 5 are just downhill.
You should watch Dog Soldiers! Go in blind (solo film)
Unfortunately, Scott didn't want to do another Underworld. They asked him if they could use his likeness in this film so they deep faked his face onto another person for the few scenes he was in. Rumor has it Scott wasn't happy with the direction the films were going.. which would make sense seeing how Michael just became Selene's lap dog than a unique hybrid creature that's never been created until now.
I think he only have himself to blame as he is originally written as the protagonist, Kate's screen presence stole the spotlight, but he could have done better himself.
Woof woof
Scott finally answered that question of why he wasn't back in the franchise by saying that it was because he simply wasn't in the right mental place to do more Underworld that he was drifting doing few things at that time or nothing at all. I never heard that rumor that he didn't like the script, in fact I didn't watch any of the movies where he wasn't there, which would be from the lycan rebellion to the end, which is a blood war.
Well his character was never the main character
I don't think it was about him being a main character. If anything Underworld set them both up as leads. But I do find it odd that MIchael is the only being to ever survive bites from both, his powers unknown and we never really touch on it again. @@TheBlackLakeSiren
12:07 I’ve seen a cop in a corvette anything is possible
8:08 Special rounds don’t matter to her anymore as she’s immune to solar radiation. Also he wouldn’t turn as the workers are all Lycan in disguise. Also fully drinking them stops them from turning
🖤LOVE the Underworld movie series!!! Kris Holden-Reid, the Mega-Lycan was a werewolf in the 'Lost Girl’ tv series -2010-2016 as Detective Dyson -Lost Girl, Bo was a succubus & included so many fantasy characters -Very creative tv series!
I've loved the Underworld movies from the opening scene in the first. Selene is just so cool and who doesn't love super sexy vampires.
I agree with the Oak Rise of the Lycans is my favorite one out the entire series.
Me, my brother and sister love vampires and werewolves. We love the Underworld franchise. Awakening was the first one my mom watched and she loved it, especially Eve.
She wanted to watch the others. We binged watched all of them with her. We spent the whole time referring to Michael and Selene as the "Baby Mama" and the "Baby Daddy" because of Eve.
Also Viktor was Step Pawpaw Kraven was wannabe "Baby Daddy". We gave other characters nicknames too. 😂😂😂
Bloodwars is nuts. Should 100% watch that one
All the talk about the look of the lycans cgi seems weird to me considering the ones in twilight are just big dogs..or am I missing something? I never watched twilight..I grew up on Anne Rice vampires.. twilight seems super campy to me lol
It's fascinating seeing Americans finding out their government has been lying to them all their lives.
Hey, guys period love you reactions period if you wanna see Kate beckinsale be a total bad ass in a movie that I personally feel is completely underrated. Check out the total recall remake. It's a movie that keeps some elements of the original but is its own entity in and of itself. I quite enjoyed it. Kate beckinsale and Jessica biel. Victor is in it too in a small role.
Love these movies more than Twilight. Not sorry cause they came out before Twilight.
“Vampires can’t have kids” Forgot that the whole reason the war started was cause Viktor killed his own daughter cause she was pregnant with Lucian’s baby. 😆
Alexander Corvinus himself said in the second film that he (and his organization) had been the ones who kept it all hidden from human society. With Corvinus dead and his organization destroyed, it was only a matter of time before humans discovered the truth.
It's human nature to fear what you don't understand, and if those in power can't use it to serve their goals, they'll exterminate it.
Next up: Blood Wars 🎉
It would be awesome if they did a crossover with blade where they meet each other
Heart massages are sometimes done during surgery, but those are clean sterile environments. Doing that out in the open would likely cause more harm because the person would most likely become infected from various germs and bacteria. So yes, it is a medical technique that doctors can use to restart a heart, though it is not used often, and I highly doubt a doctor would try it outside of surgery.
I think you should watch “Dog Soldier “ it uses same design werewolf
Omg you guys should watch daybreakers. It’s about what happens if everyone gets turned into vampires where does the food come from? It’s honestly a decent cheesy(what vampire movie isn’t these days) vampire movie plus willam Defoe doing his best not be green goblin from Spider-Man but your brain still thinks “ok green goblin calm down… are you trying to do a southern drawl green goblin… lol ok”.
Kris Holden-Reid who plays Quint, the Uber-Lycan was the second lead in the TV series ‘Lost Girl’. The heroine in the series was a Succubus, a beautiful bad-ass woman in black leather who hunts at night. (Sound familiar?) Holden-Reid played Police Homicide Detective Dyson Thornwood, who happens to be a 1,500 year old ‘wolf-shifter’, a Werewolf!
You guys seem to have watched the original theatrical version of the first film ‘Underworld’ where in Lucian’s flashback Sonja was played by an unknown actress and died as a helpless victim screaming in pain. Other reactors appear to have watched the ‘George Lucas’ version of the first film Underworld where they have replaced the unknown actress playing Sonja with Rhona Mitra from the prequel where Sonja faced her death bravely.
Did she hunt at night? I dont remember that when I watched Lost Girl. I know that she feeds off others but I dont remember her only "hunting" at night. I think it was more of a at random times thing. unless you are stating specifically all the times she has sex during the night?
LOVED Lost Girl series!!!