Motorcycle Fork - Stuck Oil Lock (GSF600 Bandit)
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Stuck oil lock in the fork stanchion tube is giving me serious irritation. Haven't found a whole lot of information about this problem besides a few forum posts from non-related bikes.
Let me first say, Thank you Sir!!! I'm working on a set of these forks and i could not get them apart. However, these forks are factory placed on a 2015 Victory Hammer 8 Ball. The Victory parts list diagram does NOT (Obviously) show the parts to these forks. A buddy of mine sent me this video. I watched it, and it was like the clouds parted and nothing but sunshine!!! Again, thank you for this video!! LIFESAVER!!!
Glad you found it useful Eric. I was losing my mind trying to figure out what in the world was going on, hah.
Maaaaaate!!!!! I have a Victory Vegas and after watching this video I was like you - the clouds parted and let the sun shine through. @matttriestodothings thank-you for this video
Mate, doing my first ever fork service and after everything was going somewhat well, put it back together and was just stuck, so had to take the whole thing apart again. Couldn’t find anything to do with the oil lock but thank god I found this video! Thanks 👍
Hopefully it was useful George. It's the little things that make these projects take forever!
My forks have been disassembled on my kitchen table since I gave up on freeing that oil lock 3 days ago. Thanks Matt! My wife is pleased! ...Because the forks are off the table, I mean.
Thank you for reaffirming that this isn't just an issue unique to me because I was losing my gourd over this trying to find out how to fix it!
@@matttriestodothings yup! I'm sure we both read through all the same threads on all the same forums... So thanks again for contributing to the collective vat of data. Your shared knowledge will save the world several man-hours!
This was a lifesaver. I was about to quit at life, completely lost my temper a couple times trying to figure out what the hell was wrong. In the video you said it doesn't take much force to pop it out....it took a considerable amount for me. Luckily PVC + duct tape didn't damage anything and I was able to finish it. Bike is back together, no leaks so far, works good. 2004 Yamaha V Star 1100 Custom.
Dude, thank you for justifying my position on this! I swear to god I could hardly find any reference of anybody else having this problem, and it was driving my absolutely nuts trying to figure out an answer. Mine originally took a little more force than what was shown on this video, but I expected to have to blast it given how stuck it felt.
Your comment makes me feel a lot better about posting this video, hah. Cheers!
This helped so much, I thought I was going crazy trying to put these back together
I'm just glad to know it's not just me that runs into these issue, hah.
Same here, thank you!
This has been a massive life and money saver. I had this problem and thank god i came across this. Going to share this to bandit forum on facebook to help people :)
Glad to hear it was useful Scott! It was an issue that drove me insane and I couldnt find any information about til I stumbled on the cause on like a Triumph forum or something. Cheers.
Today I was stuck at the same moment while assembling my front fork. Your video prevented me losing my sanity. Thx so much for sharing!
Sure thing RIck. Thanks for letting me know I'm not alone in getting stumped at this stage as well!
saved the day! I was about ready to part the bike. Thank you, thank you! Vstar 650
Trust me, I was right there with you for quite a while. None of it made any sense to me.
This just save my weekend. Thanks!
Absolutely Raymond. Glad it was useful. It definitely had me super confused. Cheers.
Lifesaver! I too was questioning my sanity. Thank you!
Thank you for reaffirming the fact that I wasn't the only person losing my sanity trying to figure this conundrum out!
you've saved my day!
I'm just glad to know I'm not the only person this completely stumped!
Thanks your video help me get my oil lock off. It's 1 am and I up trying to figure out the same thing!
Many many times I have been perplexed and cursing at inanimate motorcycle components at 1AM. Thanks for letting me know I'm not the only one! Cheers Brandon.
*Edit -- Damn, nice deadlifts btw!
@@matttriestodothings thanks for the compliment, but mostly thanks for helping me with my fork rebuild!
@@bDub779 Sure thing. It's a good feeling once you've gotten the forks rebuilt.
Nice your broom handle trick definitely gets it free!!! (well same idea you used pvc I used a long broom)
It looks like they cheaped out with that plastic oil lock piece, all of the ones I've seen were made of alloy and slid into the fork outer just nicely without binding. Not a problem in your case, but the holes drilled in the damper rod were often never cleaned up, with swarf gouging the inner of the lock piece, they are worth a lick with a file.
Yep--the SV650 and Bandit are the only two I've run into this plastic type of oil lock on. I'm sure there's more of them, but I haven't seen them.
what a garbage design . got my head spinning around this thing too. thanks mate!
It drove me nuts for a while.
Finally a fu**ing explanation! Thx
That's exactly how I felt when I found some reference to the issue on a Triumph forum after searching for days, hah.
Mine was the same, but it was stuck so far in I had to destroy it to get it out. I have re-assembled the fork without it, I wonder if there will be trouble ahead..
Damn man, sorry to hear that. Pain in the ass it is sometimes. Everything sounds so easy on paper but reality throws a lot of wrenches into the equation! Good luck with the forks.
So if you put it back together without seizing the oil lock, filling the inner tube with oil and sealing the top, it will/can not get stuck again?
I don't think you'll get it locked again once it's fully reassembled. The issue is when you're filling it with fluid and moving the stanchion up and down, you want to be careful not to slam it downward to hard to lock it back up.
You put the spring inside ans screw together...than you can do the seal
Look your stanchions for schraches...my old bushings was contaminated with steel particels which caused damage to the stanchion
Yea, the stanchions look great, actually. It was just that oil stop piece getting stuck on the end. Currently assembling the other one now. Got the one (in this video) all put together.
I'd just never seen this happen before, but I read a few other accounts where people got stuck on the oil stop.
This seems to have happened to one of my Kawasakie W650 forks, when attempting to pump the oil out (the other is pumping fine), prior to a flush and then intended change to progressive springs; so it's and I'm totally 'stuck' with no idea how to fix; I don't have tools to further dismantle the insides...
I'm not familiar with those forks unfortunately. If you do end up trying to unbolt the damper rod bolt (if it's the same style as this), put the spring back in and cap it off. Use an impact wrench with Allen driver attachment to get the damper rod bolt loose if you're having trouble with the damper spinning in the unit.
@@matttriestodothings Cheers Matt
How did you get it to install correctly without it sticking?
I have another more comprehensive video that shows it. But the main thing was using a seal driver that did not clamp to the stanchion, holding the stanchion up a bit, and driving the seal without allowing the oil lock to strike the bottom of the fork lower.
I used duct tape wrapped around the fork, just make sure it is positioned to where it doesn't bottom out when you slam it down to seat the seal. Also try putting grease around the bushing so you don't have to use as much force. And make sure there is a healthy band of duct tape wrapped around in order to spread it out and not put too much pressure on the inside of the seal.
Hi Matt did you ever find a solution to the oil lock?
I was able to get it to work the way I did it in the video by being really careful not to squish the oil lock into the fork lower when I was driving the fork seal. It's not a good "solution", but it worked. At least I figured out what the problem was.
One "solution" people use is to just not run the oil lock(s). I'm not recommending it for street use, but I don't have the oil locks installed on my track SV650 which are essentially the same as the Bandit forks. You lose the safety of the soft stop the oil lock provides in that case though.
Okay thanks Matt, I wrecked one of the oil locks by tapping it into the bottom of the fork because I thought that was where it went (doh). I had to buy another one and I’m at the point of reassembling the forks. But sifting through you tube videos trying to find tips…thanks for your quick response….stay safe Keith
@@yzf750rukt Good luck Keith. Yep--I was pretty unsure of their function before I ran into this. I'd make sure to get some lubrication on the oil lock before assembly to hopefully keep it from sticking.
Me have same problem haha