Don't buy a SUBWOOFER until you understand... Subwoofer Parts Explained!
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- Опубліковано 10 тра 2017
- A subwoofer is more than just a big speaker, there are several components that make up the subwoofer's anatomy and having an understanding of what they are and what they do will allow you to pick the perfect subwoofer for you for your next car audio system.
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Which voice coil is better...copper or aluminum
This is a great introduction video Mark. Can you do a VERY in depth video on what makes the best subwoofer? As in what type of material is the best for the surround? Megaroll? Ribbed like DD subs? What type of metal for the voice coil copper? Aluminum? Flat wound aluminum? 4 layer flat wound aluminum? Size of voice coil? 3",4" 10"?! How about spider material? Nomex? Conex? Kevlar? 4 layer? 8 layer? 26 layer?! Linear or progressive spider? Double spider like that Fosgate your showing? Triple spiders with 1 linear in between 2 progressives? Where does it end? Single magnet? Double, triple, quadruple?! So many questions. That would be a great video and get LOTS of views for sure. Thanks again Mark!
Did a research paper about this in early 90's for my English class. Tech hasn't changed much. Innovation in the design has. Still believe less is more though. Long live old school!!!!
vincent cisneros : most car woofers are a waste of time.
4 8" pro woofers slaughter these low sensativity power hogs.
as they say, it not the size of the sub, its how you use it. I have a free-air 8 inch in my genesis coupe and people can't believe its a free air sub.. Bottom line is .. if the sub can handle 500W rms... give it at least that much or a bit more... Don't starve it !!
@@ACommenterOnUA-cam Bullshit. Free air a sub will reach Xmax long before it reaches rated RMS limits. A 1000 Watt RMS sub will already hit peak excursion at less then 100 watts.
you old
Wise man ,You're a great observer 👍
Excellent video, it's awesome you showed the unique design features of that sub so that people can understand how a company can engineer different aspects of the woofer for better performance. Much more to subs (and speakers) than a big magnet and how many watts of power it can handle.
Thanks for checking out the video! Want to see the layered subwoofer box I am making for the Jeep Project? Be sure to watch here: ua-cam.com/video/YmBiGzXCkQY/v-deo.html
Great loudspeaker lesson! Excellent job explaining the various speaker parts. Indeed, Rockford Fosgate makes top notch products ... great to go on par with your tutorial videos. Many thanks Mark.
Mark you are amazing man! You remind me of my days fabricating aircraft parts from alum and working fiberglass components in all shapes and sizes up to and including removing wings from jets, deskinning them, complete teardown and rebuild of new parts. Those tools you have, man, they melt my heart man they create art!! You have a set of subs you put in the back of truck that made the sub box look like fox eyes or something, it was bad ass. I want those templates but didnt see them on your store? Keep up the superb work you are second to none
I just found your channel!! I was doing car audio when I was 17/18 y.o, I was going to do it for a career but chose cabinet making instead! Your channel makes me want to get back into the car audio! keep up the great videos!!
I am about to install these exact subs this weekend Rockford Fosgate P3D2 12" x2
Nice video, many people don't understand speakers and how they work. One thing you forgot to mention is how the voice coil diameter affects the power capabilities of said woofer, as in a smaller voice coil will bottom out regardless of said power rating, RMS I'm talking about vs peak. A larger voice coil can take the same number of wraps as a smaller one, combined with a great suspension, spider, you can put way more power to it RMS or peak without the woofer bottoming out. Also a larger voice coil will cool off faster due to the diameter of the coil. I have a digital designs woofer with a 2.5 or 3 inch coil, and from my experience with pro audio where we used 4 inch VCs for a 15" sub vs a 2" coil for an example, Kenwood 12" 500 watt sub, I'll take my 2.5" coil 10" DD all day long, it has a fantastic spider, is made in the USA by top tier manufacturer's but looks like that fosgate has a 2 1/2 or 3" coil. Just saying that is a very important thing to know about your subs before you buy them. All in all, nice to show people who don't understand woofer basics instead of just saying I got these 500 watt subs that are awesome, but how much do you know about the sub before you buy it. Go made in USA always for a quality product like fosgate
I happen to have two Rockford Fosgate P3 12s so it's interesting to see exactly how they look/function. Nice video.
Jordan what kinda amp and do you like them?
Right now I'm using the Rockford Fosgate Prime 1200-1. Works very well for these subs but eventually I'd like to have a T1500-1 bdcp. Their punch 1000-1 would be a good match as well.
Jordan the constant power amps aren't worth the money. just get the standard t1500
I am Coast2coastLoud pioneer gm-d9601 works good too for half the price.. shop smart
I have these exact P3 12"s also and am quite fond of them. There are of course FAR superior subs out there, but these have been serving me well over the last 3 years. Pushing them with a SoundQubed SQ2200.1 (the model without the words "sound" and "qubed" flanking the logo, and it hits HARD! The amp is only seeing 2 OHMs because i didnt know that a: its actually easier on the electrical system for certain amps at 1 ohm than 2 and b: didnt want to "push the amp too hard" at 1 ohm, which turns out to not be the case with certain amps either. Great subs for the price, but id definitely get sundowns in the event that i was shopping for subs again.
I got my Fosgate stereo and speakers in 1999 the HX3 subwoofers I'm still using it every day. Best I'v ever used 👍🏽
1100@1 and 800@2 amps I even got the old series 1 speakers and amplifiers too.
i have 2 of the p3d4s. great subs. ive had them for 3 1/2 years and have been pushing them hard everyday and have not had a single problem. sound great and can take a good amout of power
knucklehead69deland really really ?
Wish every company has a model that shows the internals like that so everyone can know how to make a better decision
I learned parts of a subwoofer and how things work but, You really don't have to understand how it works before you buy one. Seems the title was to get people's attention.
I don't consider it a click bait title. Most people watching this are not just your basic people. They are more serious in this hobby. So when you are putting together a well balanced high performance sound system this video helps you to completely understand what you are looking at when comparing subwoofers
Sick vid. Great job explaining all the components, this is great info so someone can understand what the companies are talking about when they list features.
love my fosgate prime amps....havent used the newer woofers or miss and highs....but they have made good stuff for decades....nice video.
I had almost every brand system in the last 3yrs and as soon as I put the Rockford Fosgate back in my truck I'm done for real it's the best you can buy . BDCP with T 1 subs will destroy all thanks Rockford Fosgate
I've learned so much from you're page and am excited to keep going and eventually do my build. Thanks man
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You and your informative videos are fantastic Mark. Keep it up!
+motoman22atgmail thank you. I appreciate the kinds words.
Very great information. I dont usually subscribe to people but you definitely got my first subscription! Love your shirt too! Currently im running all fosgate. Punch full range and components, a single t1 10 with t600-2 amp. Thanks for this video man!
why am i watching this, i dont even have a car...
because a car is the ONLY thing that has a subwoofer LOL
Me 2 I even dont have driving license 😂😂😂😂
I dont have a car, but im a noob on car subs so i gotta learn
i own a vehicle jusy get the darn licence boys
You need a subwoofer to get a car, so you can get a licence
Great video!!! Can't wait for the next video about t/s parameters!
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I have a 10 inch P3 DVC from Rockford Fosgate, and I'll tell you all that one 10 inch sub can really deliver some heavy bass
Hey Ron Markus instead of you buying subwoofers but a dictionary
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I'm considering buying this sub. What amp do you have pushing it and did you get a custom box for it or prefab?
Hey guys got a question, just had my 15's wired in to my 16 Impala through the factory stereo, I have an aftermarket DB drive output converter, I'm wondering if I'm better off using my remote subwoofer control knob through the output converter or if I should run one from the aftermarket amplifier?
Another great informational video Mark thanks. I did just support Fosgate again by buying 2 p1s4-10's. Can't wait to integrate and enjoy them!
Maybe I spaced out and missed it while you were talking about the spiders but I thought I'd seen a Fosgate video explaining that their reason for having two on their larger more powerful subs was to also help control excursion etc, in addition to the attributes/functions you described.
Thanks again and yes, I for one make to the end of all of your great videos.
brilliant video, thank you so much.....can you explain what would happen if I swapped my car sub driver 4 ohm into my REL home sub 8 ohm ?
If any P3 owners come here and have a rattling sound inside your box, it's most likely the joint where the upper spider meets the cone. The resin cracks and becomes loose, introducing a very annoying vibration. It sounds like your trunk lid is vibrating when it's actually coming from the speaker itself. All you need to do is pick up some resin (Loctite 5 min epoxy works well) and run a bead around the top of the spider and the cone to glue them back together. Cheers
Very well done!! Thanks for the info!!
Your videos help me alot. Thanks for making them
what about compact underseat subs? how do you determine those are any good?
Great video Mark!
Woahh.very good explanation man ..ive learned a lot.all your videos are very helpfull for me thx a lot
Very informative, you are the best.
Good vid. I have a performance technique amp 2000 w and i m planing connect a 12' single sub massive audio gtx 124 , 1400 w subwoofer. Please advise.
Well done. Thanks so much
Thank-you its a great explanation
Nice video, I like your work
I learned a lot. Thanks!
does this video apply to home audio subwoofers aswell?
Lovely video
Thanks for all the tips and videos keep up the grate work, I have 3 drawing I would love your input on, how can I send them to you. I'm not sure witch one will sound best. thanks again Deon
I sell Rockford fosgate at my store and personally have a p3 in my truck. Thanks for giving me more insight. :)
I love rockford fosgate, live and die by them, but this video 100% feels like one long ad on why rockford is better then everybody else, and i dont feel like they are but they certainly entertain the beginner enthusiast well
I have a audiocontrol lc.1500 amp, and dual focal e25kx subs. Which ohm would you wire the amp and sub?
Great video thanks!
The surround also had the job of sealing & keeping the air pressure/vacuum separate from air outside the box yet still flexible enough to provide Xmax
NvTwist are you speaking on this particular sub being talked about
I have a 2014 Infiniti q60 and I want to add more voice and bass. It comes with a bose speakers. What kind of equipment should I get to improve the sound quality.
Great vídeo!!! Tkx!
great video man, thanx
Hey Mark! Do you have any recommendations for powerful yet musical subwoofers? I was looking at Sundown ZV3s as I’m looking for something in the 1500-2500 wrms range. Do you have any opinions of what might meet my needs? Thanks man
Heads up to Rockford Fosgate
I had a couple of P2 DVC 10 inch subs. How do DVC (Dual Voice Coil) differ, if any, from this P3?
I’m thinking about getting a focal E30 ex 12in subwoofer. What your take on it? Thank you
Very cool video
im stuck between getting an alpine swx12-1242d and a mrx-m110 amp vs memphis srx212 2-15s with a random amp idk which yet? not sure what to do
Hey I was wondering if you can give me some advice I have one single 15 orion hcca What do I need to look for in reference to a amplifier and rpm?Something that will be just right And would not destroy my sub.
First time to the channel. Awesome video. Like and subbed! ☺️
Glad to have you here
How this cut out woofer will sound??? We want to listen
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incomplete circuit won't even run.
It looks like the tinsel leads and the voice coil are still intact, so it should most likely still work.
I was wondering the same thing!
It'll still work
You got my subscribe mate!
Video was awesome and now have a better understanding, but my question remains unanswered, my sub works when pushed in n barely. I tried multimeter test n shows nothing, guessing its blown, or can it be tweaked to work...its a Sony explode 12in 1000w sub inclosed
that's an amazing sub
hello,
can you make a video of this woofer while running ?
yurian huizing llook for a cartoon explanation with moving diagram
*lifts subwoofer on shoulder*
*starts running*
@@Matthigast I thought of the same thing 🤣
I got two Rockford fosgate 10” subwoofer they have done me well and I will be getting two shallow mount Rockford fosgate 12” subwoofer
I am into Home Audio more than car, although I do have good car setups also. But I already knew all of the parts and terms. It was nice having the cutout sub. I just never understood the difference between overhung and underhung basket? Is it just build preference and not really important?
Nice to see on the sub I’m buying. Thanks
Earned my subscription.
Hi Sir, kindly advice. Which sub will have deepest bass between two subs, all parameters held constant save;
1st Subwoofer Pioneer TS-D12D2.0 with 72db, 600 wats RMS dual core 2 ohms vs
2nd Subwoofer: pioneer TS w3003d4 with 96db, and 600 watts RMS 4 ohm dual core.
Thank you Sir.
amazing, informative content.
Glad it was helpful!
Awsome video!!!!! Can you do the same type of video with for amplifiers?
Hi,
Can you suggest a DVC subwoofer which can be used for home theatre application, please reply
Good video .
Do you recommend threaded inserts for subs? If not what's top secure methods to mounting?
Thanks! will look into it 👍
Do you have any videos that elaborate on the individual parts of the "motor" function of a subwoofer? I.e. How, exactly, does changing the size of the voice coil effect the power handling and in turn effect sound output, or how the plates can effect the sound output?
I can't decide on what tenant subwoofers I should get. I'm either going to get the JL 10W3 or the Rockford fosgate P3. The p3s are $160 cheaper per sub. Anybody have any recommendation?
Just think..back in 1989 Rockford subs sucked. The voice pole wasn't long enough. They would reach the top, slide over, and lock up. The amps have always been top notch.
Yeah, I love their amps, but once you move past entry level on subs there is a lot to be desired.
$500 for a T1 that can't handle the power from a T1500.1 or at least the ratings would suggest it, and based on my toasted P2, I find it best to slightly under power their subs, not about to blow $500 to find out.
I’ll take a RF PRO -Series sun ANY DAY!!!
Mr Freeman at last buy the punch or step up to powers from 93.5-2004! And now the current T-2’s or a T-3.
@@033Fritz I have a single Skar ZVX 15. It can handle the RF T1500.1bdcp no problem. Only $350 for 3,000w max. RF T1 15 costs $700 and maxes at 2,000w.
Their sub pricing to performance is a joke compared to other companies.
Mr Freeman imo I think the companies that build the majority of the new subs are wanting us to buy 2k watt amps and try to sell based on the wattage ratings, magnet size and excursion. I’ll stick with the 600wrms rating of my RF PWR’s 93db sensitivity, no im not referring to the new woofers. The Skar ZVX15 has a sensitivity of 86.3, & that’s a 15” sub. Why would you want two alts, and god knows how many batteries to run your subs. That’s just my opinion though, & I hope you enjoy your set up. I’ll stick with a power 650 & some pro series, Pwr or RFR 10’s or 12’s.
So if the cone has a break in it, can you glue it back together and it still be fine or is it trash?
I would think the reason others make a uniquely different design is for patent/copyright reasons and not to look like a copy. Thanks for the informative video, perfect timing because I'm about to disassemble a couple pairs I have and see what they need. They'll probably need a trash can.
Wow, I actually feel speaker educated, thanks!
What's the most efficient way to loosen up a speakers' spider? (my interest is in mid-woofers not subs, but I guess it's the same procedure) Is is playing a sine wave? if so, at what frequency?
Question? Could you not make a very deep/ looong coil sub out of thick flat wound copper. With a looong form. And put a real bulky surround, and a big spider, and get a sub to travel like 8” up and down this making killer bass from a single sub?
What do you suggest I see use on my Honda Pilot 2004
Hey could you do a video on the deaf bonce apocalypse sa27 subs? They're aren't many videos on them in English, and is love to hear your take on the quality of those subs.
ok does anyone have a video about ohms that is not for subwoofers? how do i get 2 ohm power from my amp? its 4 channel says at 4 omh x power at 2 ohm x power but how do i get to 2 ohm
I have a fosgate T1500 bdcp and my 12 inch kickers compvr couldn't take it. they lasted two months before smoking and burning the coil. I'm looking for deep bass for hip hop etc . whats a good pair of 12 or 15 inch for that amp???
ferndog681 look at SSA line of subs or Sundown or Skar audio. And put them in a really well made custom box and it will slap. I had 1 SSA ICON 12 being pushed by 1200 watts amin a custom built box and it killed my car.
I love you for this
Thanks for making this video I learned alot. So I have a important question, which you did not cover. I just ordered a used aw1200q, and it came in shitty shredded paper garbage. Some of it got in the hole on the backplate in the center on the bottom. Do I have to worry about getting it all out? Will it come out when I use the sub? Will it damage the sub and get into the magnetic gap? Thanks, i definitely do not want to ruin this beauty!
Hello, I searched your channel for NVX sub reviews. Could you possibly do a review for NVX VCW124 or even the 2-ohm version? Thanks.
I have a question. I bought a Punch P2D2 Sub with dual 2 ohm coils. It says power handling 400 rms, 800 peak. Does that mean per coil, or total power handling of BOTH COILS.
What are your thoughts on shallow mount subwoofers? Preferred brand for shallow mounts?
Back in the day... 90's... the size of the magnet determined how good the sub was... The larger the magnet, the better it was.. Not anymore...
This is a great introduction video Mark. Can you do a VERY in depth video on what makes the best subwoofer? As in what type of material is the best for the surround? Megaroll? Ribbed like DD subs? What type of metal for the voice coil copper? Aluminum? Flat wound aluminum? 4 layer flat wound aluminum? Size of voice coil? 3",4" 10"?! How about spider material? Nomex? Conex? Kevlar? 4 layer? 8 layer? 26 layer?! Linear or progressive spider? Double spider like that Fosgate your showing? Triple spiders with 1 linear in between 2 progressives? Where does it end? Single magnet? Double, triple, quadruple?! So many questions. That would be a great video and get LOTS of views for sure. Thanks again Mark!
Rockford Fosgate is the best
I am installing an older A/D/S RS8 sub in my car because it only needs 0.6 CF of air inside of the box to get the tuning I want. Plus it has sensitivity most component sets wish they had. Long live musical subs.
Rockford fosgate for the win! 😁
I wanna get one of their 10inch shallow subs. Do they work the same as the one you explained in this video?
I still have 2 pioneer TS-W1241C's from 13 yrs ago and they are still kicking.. !!!
Good demonstration. Suscribed.
+jeremy whittler glad to have you, thanks for watching!
good video, however, it would have been nice to let us know what we should be looking for to get better performing sub.
dalwin glasgow from st,vincent will i get the same low end out of a car subwoofer in my house
Can you make bundles(speakers withs amps) or builds for types of cars with good better best.
Two videos in a row, different people, Rockford Fosgate shirts on both.