Acid use on Aluminum with Evan's Detailing and Polishing

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  • Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
  • In this video I gotta give credit to Shiny Trucks up in Canada for the inspiration for this video. He did a killer job on showing what acid does to aluminum. I put my own spin on it since so many have asked us to do a video on acid but definitely check out his instagram or facebook for more shiny stuff.
    Now I personally try to avoid acid at all costs in my shop. I believe in most instances it does more damage than good and I find that the polish doesn't last as long if I have to use acid. Proper neutralization and dillution is utterly important and most I've seen using acid don't do that. Now I'm not saying acid doesn't have a place in the polishing industry I'm just simply saying I personally don't like it. I've seen lots of polishers get great results with it but I've also seen lots of horror stories also. I truly hope you find this video interesting and informative. I tried to make it as packed full of useful info to help you make a good decision on wether acid is right for you.
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  • @waynedooley9397
    @waynedooley9397 3 роки тому +3

    Once again another awesome video... thanks for all you do

  • @ChemX
    @ChemX 3 роки тому +6

    Awesome video man 👏👏👏 Yeah etching acids definitely thin aluminum over time, whenever I see a truck drive by that’s been acid washed for years it strikes me as a tragedy lol

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  3 роки тому +2

      That is a fact and most sulfuric acids can reactivate up to 3 months after application.

  • @danielyelle1070
    @danielyelle1070 3 роки тому +3

    Love your videos. Have learned a lot on polishing aluminum. I do use a product call Mirror X made by Ezoil . In Upper Peninsula there are no truck washes just one self service big enough to get a truck in. So I use this on my polished aluminum in the winter when I wash . It would be considered a light acid . It will streak polished aluminum if the aluminum is hot like a fuel tank but for me it helps me maintain my aluminium in the winter.

    • @MiTreeHugger11
      @MiTreeHugger11 3 роки тому

      I've been using a product from Alumaclear called TCI 503, works great for keeping polished aluminum shinny in between polishes.

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  3 роки тому +3

      That is a killer good product. I have used it before and it worked well. I have gotten away from it over the years but it worked well. It definitely gets the winter grime off. Alumaclear stuff works well too as a winter maintainer.

    • @Lawdawg31206
      @Lawdawg31206 10 місяців тому

      10-4 Thanks, that’s exactly what I’m talking about keeping polished; a fuel tanker.👍🏾

  • @danielharding2374
    @danielharding2374 3 роки тому

    Great vid as always Evan 👌🙌💯

  • @nathanclark8034
    @nathanclark8034 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks Evan. I have always hear the term “acid wash” but never knew what was really happening

  • @MNpicker
    @MNpicker 3 роки тому +2

    Awesome vid man!! Really puts it into perspective👍🏼
    Acid is a bad thing..
    Im glad you didn't leave it in overnight.. Those poor tools from the off gasing 😬

  • @Lawdawg31206
    @Lawdawg31206 Рік тому +1

    Hey Evan, what would you suggest using on a brand new polished fuel tanker, to keep it looking good the longest. Thx, Law Dawg

  • @mikekmalick
    @mikekmalick 25 днів тому

    I was going to use Superior Aluminum Brightener on an old aluminum boat to clean it UP a bit! It's 35 years old and never been cleaned! I don't think a one time cleaning will ruin the boat! What do you think?

  • @kindercarcaredetailing4768
    @kindercarcaredetailing4768 День тому

    Just ordered the kit off you late last night Sir. Bought the 35.3 Oz can of LUHMI AMGLOS off you sometime ago, Awesome Shit but just about out!
    Been polishing Metals for years(nothing nowhere near your level/skill) and I agree 100%, this is the metal polish I've ever used too. But have a question Sir, why do you use microfiber applicator to apply the time to shine polish instead of a Terry?
    Thank You!

  • @shawnmcmichael9044
    @shawnmcmichael9044 3 роки тому

    Great video,lots of knowledge learned. If you have grease or oil or tar on the aluminum what would be good to clean it first with?

  • @cleetusra6956
    @cleetusra6956 Рік тому +1

    How would you recommend washing a milk tanker? There’s tons of old dried up milk splattered down the sides, they don’t necessarily need to be reflective since they are in a dirt field

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  Рік тому

      I would call a local wash company and look for a 2 part chemical wash setup. You would use a mild acid first then an alkaline to neutralize it. Scrubbing always helps also.

  • @Toodd112
    @Toodd112 3 роки тому +1

    A little Off topic, I cant find a video that explains proper keep up on polsiheds wheels and how often should i cut and color? TIA

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  3 роки тому +2

      I say cut and color twice a year will keep your metal nice and a hand polish anytime it looks like it needs it will keep you on point all year long. Thanks for watching.

  • @1scottrobert
    @1scottrobert 6 місяців тому +1

    Just found your channel and subbed. I love how detailed you get to give us “the why”… which rarely ever gets covered in videos like this.
    I have an aluminum horse trailer that has painted surfaces and natural aluminum surfaces.
    The painted surfaces appear to be etched with streaks coming off the roof. Someone suggested using acid, but after this video I’m leaning away from that.
    It’s a pretty expensive trailer and I don’t want to ruin it, so I’m inclined to hire a professional… but aside from don’t use acid on my trailer, what should I do to set boundaries?

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  5 місяців тому +1

      Manage your expectation from the beginning. Let them know what you are looking for them to achieve and if they can accomplish it. The hardest part is getting those perfect. I hope this helps.

    • @1scottrobert
      @1scottrobert 5 місяців тому

      @@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Yeah, hugely helpful. I would imagine neither one of us would want to let the other down. I try not to have unrealistic expectations, but I can be a pain in the arse at times.

  • @darrinstone49
    @darrinstone49 11 місяців тому +1

    What about the back of a wheel that has years of caked on brake dust in alot of irregular surfaces? I'm trying to clean them to a point I can at least seal the pores with a ceramic coating. No idea how to clean them otherwise? I would add a pic but saddly the new manditory updates will no longer all me to add pics

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  8 місяців тому

      I would use an iron remover. If just cleaning you can use acid but it will dry the wheel out and make it more susceptible to caking up worse next time.

  • @layzy24
    @layzy24 Рік тому

    What kind of acid is that? Looks like Krud Kutter the must for rust. I'm right aren't I?

  • @luishernandez9239
    @luishernandez9239 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you

  • @drewl4762
    @drewl4762 2 роки тому +1

    What's your tips to cleaning oxidation off of mill finished aluminum such as trailer sub frames? It's for my own trucks and I polish everything that I can, or I feel is worth my time but I find these areas hard to polish and I don't know how to get them back to a mill finish look. Would an acid wash work okay in this situation or still not worth it?

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  2 роки тому

      If you do acid wash it then throw a 180 grit sand over the top of it to give it a clean new finish. Not sure if this is the answer you are looking for but if you are talking about what I think you are talking about then this is what I would do.

    • @drewl4762
      @drewl4762 2 роки тому

      @@EvanStegerMetalPolishing sounds good, yeah I'm not looking to polish it to a shine just get the oxidation and discoloration out. Will have to give this a try thanks Evan!

  • @layzy24
    @layzy24 Рік тому

    What acid is this? Phosphoric? Muriatic? Hydrochloric?

  • @cfr7145
    @cfr7145 Рік тому +1

    just one question, how do you remove water spots from polished aluminum.

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  Рік тому +1

      Watered down ammonia. And then followed by a hand polish. But high speed buffing is the best way.

  • @darrendeal3103
    @darrendeal3103 Рік тому +1

    Unfortunately in Australia our alloy gets tarnished a lot from roadworks and red dirt from some states as I polish the alloy on a regular basis especially in winter time does my head in as the alloy gets stained and tarnished and the east way to bring it back up is a diluted acid wash which seems the simplest to me as I can’t see the time sanding it back every fortnight possible not enough hrs in the day 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  Рік тому +1

      I get it. As long as it is diluted properly and deactivated properly it can be a useful tool. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @georgehixon3944
    @georgehixon3944 3 роки тому +3

    How about the citrus shine they use is it ok or should not use it either

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  3 роки тому

      Citrus acid is still an acid. I noticed in my personal experience citrus isn't immediate damage it is more long term damage over multiple uses. It breaks down the aluminum on the inside and not the outside. Hope this explains it.

    • @tylersmith2029
      @tylersmith2029 3 роки тому

      Was hoping that question was in here - that’s what I’ve been telling my customers, just wanted to make sure I was on the right page! Thanks!!

  • @fastrich75
    @fastrich75 Рік тому

    What would acid do the sheet aluminum can you get a mirror finish after polishing??

  • @hhazelhoff1363
    @hhazelhoff1363 2 роки тому +5

    I used to drop,acid in college, it was a trip. It gets better when it sits for a while.

  • @gregsurdacki8722
    @gregsurdacki8722 3 місяці тому

    what is the name of that Acid

  • @gregfeatherston1618
    @gregfeatherston1618 2 роки тому +1

    What wheel cleaner do you use instead of acid

  • @austinarnold2193
    @austinarnold2193 3 роки тому +1

    Can you please do a video on a renegade aluminum kit and testing out the products?

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  3 роки тому +1

      No thank you. Sorry I no longer use their products and have no interest in purchasing their kit.

    • @austinarnold2193
      @austinarnold2193 3 роки тому

      Evan Steger alrighty well can you explain to me why you don’t anymore? I’m starting to get into this for my business and I’m only 16 so I having a lot of guys come in with a ton of aluminum wheels so what company would you recommend and why.

  • @gentibici
    @gentibici Рік тому +1

    bro , nice video but since I have to go to a weeding next week, I would like to know how to make a face like yours 🙄

  • @wallnutz3
    @wallnutz3 3 роки тому +1

    how often should i use zephyr pro 40 polish or any polish ever time i wash let me know no one talks about that

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  3 роки тому

      You can polish as often as you want or I recommend only when the shine dulls and you want it back. It is a judgement call on your part honestly.

  • @iwantyayo
    @iwantyayo 3 роки тому +1

    im having a real hard time with steps and diamond plates, please do a vid i believe you did already but if you can throw more tips in there thatd be great 👍

  • @rosinzombie4202
    @rosinzombie4202 Рік тому

    Great video! Interesting to know acid doesn't even cut as much as sanding. What a wasted step acid is. Plus acids crap on your health to deal with constantly. Glad Ive just been using glass cleaner, or degreaser if I'm washing it.

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  Рік тому

      Thank you. I appreciate you watching and agree there are health risks when using acid. Thanks for the comment.

  • @corymacdonald383
    @corymacdonald383 Рік тому

    What's best for cleaning dirtbike hubs? None polished surface .

  • @randyw34
    @randyw34 3 роки тому +1

    I only acid wash then sand, is that OK??

    • @jonathanmorgan5232
      @jonathanmorgan5232 3 роки тому +3

      A diluted acid is fine to use it cleans the metal quickly before hand polishing or buffing. I prefer clean aluminum myself. Aluminum is very porous and acid cleans the pores

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  3 роки тому

      As long as you sand below it. But I don't see a point in sanding after acid for the reasoning that when I sand I sand further down than acid typically penetrates so its wasted for me. But to each their own. If it is working for you then it isn't wrong. But for me as a business I try to cut any unneccesary spending when possible. If I have to acid and wash it takes time. Time that I could be spending sanding and not having to dry the part. But if time isn't an issue then you are good.

  • @dLikesDDs
    @dLikesDDs 3 роки тому +1

    been using diluted acid on trucks at work. its bringing tarnished alcoas back to near new shine without turning white.

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  3 роки тому

      That would be a first for me. I would love to see that.

    • @dLikesDDs
      @dLikesDDs 3 роки тому +1

      @@EvanStegerMetalPolishing i believe there is a very thin line while using the acid to clean before it begins to etch. one thing i found while cleaning the wheels was if left on for the advertised couple of minutes it would begin to etch the aluminum and turn white. i mix about 1 part acid to 10 parts water and leave the acid on for no longer than 20-30 seconds before power washing off, repeat till the shine comes out.

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  3 роки тому +1

      @@dLikesDDs I'm not disagreeing with you since I am not there to see it, but I have a hard time believing the results with the science I have seen on a microscopic level. It is not very likely that acid gives a polished look. Acid by nature is a drying agent on all things. It may not on the first time but on a microscopic level it is definitely cracking the surface and making it dry out much quicker. But I've been wrong many times in my career. So it is possible.

    • @penniesfromheaven2511
      @penniesfromheaven2511 2 роки тому +1

      JustGoogleIt those are Durabrites- they have a clear coating on them. That’s why the acid doesn’t turn them white.

    • @dLikesDDs
      @dLikesDDs 2 роки тому +1

      @@penniesfromheaven2511 not clear coated bud. the acid i used was quite capable of turning them white. its how the acid is used, like stated before, theres a point where the acid begins to etch and turn it white, if thats happening you're being too aggressive with the acid wash.

  • @randyw34
    @randyw34 3 роки тому +2

    Is it hydrochloric or sulphuric?

    • @kp__truckin
      @kp__truckin 3 роки тому +4

      Usually blended phosphoric /sulfuric

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  3 роки тому +2

      The stuff I have is a blend of sulfuric. but hydrocloric works also. But they all do about the same damage on the microscopic level.

    • @haydnpaull5447
      @haydnpaull5447 3 роки тому

      @@EvanStegerMetalPolishing are you sure it's not Hydrofluoric acid? Alibrite here in Aust is 9% Hydrofluoric which is a very nasty substance, you wouldn't be handling it without PPE.

  • @Sidumpn2021
    @Sidumpn2021 3 роки тому +2

    A driver hit his wheels with acid 3 days after I polished them. Yea to say he undid everything is an understatement.

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  3 роки тому

      Yeah it doesn't take much to undo everything.

    • @daytonrogers821
      @daytonrogers821 3 роки тому

      Look bro this green ain't working. I'm working with steel. What you recommend a white? I will go to your store and BUY???

  • @dankley9969
    @dankley9969 2 роки тому +1

    Also different kinds of acid react with aluminum differently

  • @kowboy.kez359
    @kowboy.kez359 3 роки тому +7

    Can’t tell you how many truck washes I’ve been kicked out of because they’ve used acid after I said not to. My dad has been kicked out of about all but 3 truck washes from Pa down to Florida. Absolutely despise acid.

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  3 роки тому

      Me too. It makes cleaning a breeze but really messes up nice stuff. Thanks for watching.

  • @robertcrawford7585
    @robertcrawford7585 3 роки тому +2

    If you put acid on aluminum and then not immediately polish ,it will make it three times as hard to polish it after running it down the highway.

  • @bobbymoody7
    @bobbymoody7 3 роки тому +2

    Never use it straight. Never let it just sit on it. Spray rinse cut color hand polish is my gig. I don't like cutting dirty aluminum. But everyone's different

  • @michaeldunmoyer5383
    @michaeldunmoyer5383 Рік тому +2

    When I used acid I laughed so hard my face hurt all day the next day

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  Рік тому

      Everyone has their own method. Not saying it can't be done. Just saying why I don't use it. Thanks for watching.

    • @clutchitup9861
      @clutchitup9861 7 місяців тому

      He was talking about the drug lmao what a jokester

  • @ronniehayward3730
    @ronniehayward3730 3 роки тому +2

    I WOULD LIKE TO BRING MY T660 UP AND HAVE YOU POLISH IT OUT THE REST OF THE WAY

  • @vernon207
    @vernon207 6 місяців тому

    That’s good to know wicked shit

  • @traviscockrell158
    @traviscockrell158 3 роки тому +1

    I have been flashing Aluminum and Stainless Steel since I was 14 years old never had any problem at all I think it comes out cleaner

    • @traviscockrell158
      @traviscockrell158 3 роки тому +1

      When I buff it out

    • @jonathanmorgan5232
      @jonathanmorgan5232 3 роки тому +2

      Yep same here I wouldn't start on anything without it being clean first

    • @Justinmikehunt
      @Justinmikehunt 3 роки тому +2

      Jonathan Morgan the point is that if something is smooth enough to not need to be sanded...it’s not gonna be dirty enough to need acid either then for sure. So if you’re gonna sand which you almost always will then why do you need it to be clean first? Sanding with the first grit will usually completely clean the surface and it will leave the texture way less harsh and damaged. You just have never seen the difference under a microscope or don’t have the eye for it in person like Evan does. I will agree I have used it before when stripping down inside drive wheels that were completely black, mainly just to try it out, and it makes it nice...so it seems. But it’s just an extra step considering you’re going to sand it all out anyways. Acid works great for cleaning up aluminum trailer frames...and for a fleet of company trucks that isn’t going to spend the time polishing tanks and wheels, etc, then acid/aluminum brighter does leave those parts of a truck looking better than it would otherwise. those are about the only real things I would consider acid to be useful for. Like Evan said....It is so harsh it actually damages the pours to the degree of ripping soft buffs. For a guy that is one of the best and probably the most knowledgeable and for sure the most well rounded and non bias source of information in the industry...I think there’s no debate that if you’re gonna polish and are looking to keep a surface in the best condition that you can, which would always be his goal right...?...then acid is bunk lol.

    • @jonathanmorgan5232
      @jonathanmorgan5232 3 роки тому +5

      We've been polishing trucks for 40 years I think we have a few things figured out by now.

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  3 роки тому +2

      I'm definitely not saying anyone can't use acid. Simply showing why I don't and what I've seen under the microscope. You guys do great work. Shine on. Thanks for watching.

  • @keithsamuel3856
    @keithsamuel3856 3 роки тому +1

    Ah my ocd the devils tonic 😂😂😂

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  3 роки тому +1

      Devil's tonic in deed. It has its place from time to time but not in my everyday use. To each their own I suppose.

  • @daytonrogers821
    @daytonrogers821 3 роки тому +1

    Brother I have been in the business you are in 17 years ago. I have bought this sks, I am operating with wrong rouge. A small green rougher came with this Dremel kit I bought It is not right for steel. Get with me please. I need a white bar or something. Frustrated. Been working on this over a month

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  3 роки тому

      What type of material are you working on? If steel you are going to have a tough time doing it with a Dremel.

    • @daytonrogers821
      @daytonrogers821 3 роки тому

      Yes it is steel. It is a 1957 chineese sks rifle. It was in terrible shape. I am restoring it. I stripped all the bluing off with vinegar. And Bagan sanding and polishing. I am using a dremel because it is alot of small parts. Would you mind sharing an email so I can send you some pictures and get advice??? Thanks Dayton

  • @dankley9969
    @dankley9969 2 роки тому

    Using acid is an art form just like polishing is, if you don't do it correctly ofc it's gonna be awful

  • @gremlin1396
    @gremlin1396 3 роки тому +1

    HI

  • @georgegouvas27
    @georgegouvas27 2 роки тому +1

    diluted muriatic acid is what it is not straight acid, straight would have melted the hell out of aluminum quickly.

  • @james10739
    @james10739 2 роки тому +1

    I mean most acids you can buy are already watered down

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  2 роки тому

      Most acids are made for polishing. Most are made for cleaning with no care about polishing.

  • @waltersettler7404
    @waltersettler7404 2 роки тому

    I'd like to stop in and let u polish up my wheels?

    • @EvanStegerMetalPolishing
      @EvanStegerMetalPolishing  11 місяців тому

      Sorry I did not respond. If you are still interested reach out to sales@goshineon.com

  • @daytonrogers821
    @daytonrogers821 3 роки тому +1

    Need help

  • @TJWintheWorld
    @TJWintheWorld Місяць тому

    Biggest mistake so far, taking on acid washed wheels and well the truck is just pitted so bad. Should have started at 80 grit.... Bad frontal lobe thinking 😏🤔

  • @Audi-rp8oh
    @Audi-rp8oh Рік тому

    Worry about your lung’s brother, not the aluminum.

  • @davidgowing7124
    @davidgowing7124 2 місяці тому

    Who is gonna use straight acid and leave it for days? Not realistic results. Even multiple uses it would never equate to this example.

  • @in2thewild276
    @in2thewild276 3 роки тому

    I can personally say acid destroys all your hard work.I wish people that wash trucks would stop using it .