It probably cost a small fortune when it was new. Master Lock knows that a lock only needs to be good enough, then sell plenty of those to those who will swallow the snake oil.
@@noname-wo9yy I never said all locks are rubbish... but some just ain't evolving to come up with something better... because that takes time and money.
@@arekhabentangan9778 because companies want to sell what will make them the most profit. Why mass produce a good lock people can still largely afford when you can mass produce a cheap lock, charge just as much, and the vast majority of people will still buy it based on the packaging telling them it's Pickproof McUltratough?
LOL... The first actual usable power drill came out in the US in 1914 by Black & Decker. Most folks due to cost were still using hand crank drills into the 60’s and 70’s. Drills were cordless before they were cordless.
+Lock Noob I have one made by Corbin (Cabinet Locks div.), they don't seem very rare. CCL Security (the old Corbin Cabinet Locks) is still making tham with the exact same mechanism, but a different lock body. I think that it's are called the Sesamee 66.
Definitely very cool. Are you familiar with the DUO or the Alpha 800? Both really nice wafer locks. I have a couple videos on the DUO, a triple bitting wafer lock with about double the number of wafers as this one.
Wow ! I've always wanted to see one of these on video instead of line drawing and mech explosions. I really enjoy seen lock obscura like this. Thanks LPL!
When I first saw it I thought it was a warded lock... very impressed to see anti drilling pins on a lock that old with unusual wafers...I found an old waterbury metal detecting that had wafers... very nice piece you have....
At the time, you didn't have to worry about drilling. It looks like copper construction, so I'm going to assume it is, and therefore was weak to one thing. Sawing. So I believe those are not anti-drill pieces, but anti-saw pieces.
Pretty damn amazing for a company that wasn't even specialized in making locks. I'm 100% going to do some research on the inventor of that lock. The machining alone is absolutely beautiful
The majority of good we buy today are waaay better than the ones produced 100 years ago. But some are not. This lock definitely looks like one of those exceptions!
Wow for a 90 year old lock that was impressively formidable some modern companies could learn a few things from that lock the build quality alone makes it worth the money
Hi Harry, What a great little padlock! Expensive to produce even back in those days I would think. Clever angled topped wafers, and key security as well. I assume only Dudley could cut those keys back then. Well picked and explained. Regards, Brian.
I love seeing the different designs, especially the older ones. You can see how much more complicated,and less cost effective some of them proved to be in the long run, although mechanically extremely interesting.
I had no idea how many different lock brands and companies there were until I took up lock sport. It’s amazing how much a decent picker has to know to not have to start from scratch with every single lock... I’m not a decent picker 😞
I really like this lock. I don't think an amateur could pick it. By today's standards, it is overly complicated. But the designer has done a better job than most of today's lock designers even attempt. Thanks for sharing.
I feel like locks like this are the reasons for the whole channel. This lock is so old and so cool and so much better than most of the locks of the last 100 years
A. Amazing tech for the 30's. I wonder why we don't see split wafers anymore? B. How amazing is he to not only know how to pick everything but assembly and dis-assembly. I'm in awe.
Very nice lock LPL! I love the design of it. Thanks for the info on picking it. I have never tried to pick something like that. Nice old lock for the collection.
I have to wonder how long it would take a locksmith of reasonable skill to pick a lock like this without having the luxury of the key and disassembly up front. I suppose the same could be said of a number of novel locks even on the market today.
Wow...that thing had more "guts" to it than the high security locks that we used on our munitions storage bunkers when I was in the military...Definitely a work of art.
This is crazy impressive, I've just gotten my first kit and have had it for about 4 days. Just now getting down single pin picking basic standard pins on really basic locks, I have so much more respect. You make this look easy, thank you for the inspiration... I can see myself getting better everyday and hope to be half the picker you are one day.
I figured I would do a video here and there on locks I haven't seen picked on video, doesn't mean there not out there. I had to do a video on the community lock and I ended up doing a second on a Zi ikon padlock, nothing special just a nice looking lock.
Very interesting video thanks for sharing it, the lock itself looks more secure than many of todays locks, I would rather have something like that on my toolbox over an Abus rock or similar, well picked again, you always make it look easy.
That's the first time I've seen a wafer lock not be a massive disappointment on this channel. In fact, it actually seems to ne way better that half of the locks on the present market
WOW! From the time the tension rod went in until shackle release was about 2 minutes and 42 seconds. That is a *long* pick for you so that lock must be brilliant. Shame there aren't locks this hard to pick today. If there were, they would be best sellers I would think.
Am I the only one that doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. I just watched the videos and I'm in awe of whatever he's doing and talking about. I do know one thing for sure there is nothing that is pick proof. It can have the wackiest keys you've ever seen and it seems like it doesn't stand a chance.
+eclipsedave not sure why they serrated the bow. You sometimes see this on older keys to distinguish it from other models. But I don't know enough about old Dudley locks to say whether that's the case.
Awesome lock - very cool that it comes apart so nicely. A great mechanism - I wonder why there are no modern locks using it. And not to forget your skilled picking on it. By the way, how did you know which wafer you had to pick on each side?
Thanks. I knew which wafers to pick from looking at the patent drawings and from taking the lock apart and exploring. "I wonder why there are no modern locks using it." -- The EVVA DUAL is pretty close. Essentially the same thing, but with 12 wafers/sliders and with sidebars that fit into them.
+LPL Actually the four "anti-drill" pins on the side are "anti-saw", so you can't saw through the lock body, something the is not taken into account nowadays.
Lock from 30's can't believe they were that advance. THAT IS THE COOLEST LOCK I HAVE SEEN YOUR ARE THE GRAND MASTER PICKER IN MY EYES LOL LOL .CAN'T HARDLY BELIEVE A BLUE PRINT WAS STILL AVAILABLE AMAZING. THANKS FOR SHOWING ME THIS GREAT VIDEO. 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟😎
Hmm very similar idea to the Honda High Security split tumblers. That padlock was really ahead of it time, I have never seen such a thing. Crazy how you had to pick it twice as well.
Wow, very interesting lock. Are you sure it's 1930's? I had no idea they had the technology for something so intricate. The holes on the Bible that the wafers lock in to would have been punched out as a flat plate on a manual bench press with a bespoke tool, and then the plate would have been shaped in to a tube between rollers. Incredible amount of work must have been involved to make this lock. it's amazing to think it was made in mass production just 10 years after world war 1. What's happened to all that skill and expertise? It saddens me. Thankyou for a great piece of history. Interesting that the lock body profile is the same shape/geometry as the HSBC logo!
extrusion as a process had been used for around a century before brass extrusion was made feasible in the 1890s. so it could very well have been an extruded part in the 1930s, with holes punched or cut around a central rod.
wow, an actually competent wafer lock! practically unheard of. i can see why this probably wouldnt be made today..lots of cost to manufacture with all those parts including the key needing special cuts. still, im sure the part count could be slimmed down and make it viable.
It's not that bad. I played with the lock (disassembled and picked) for about 2 hours before shooting this video. As for shimming, it is technically possible, but the tolerances were good enough that my shims would not fit in the gap.
@@VineFynn You are still not answering the real reason why LPL does it. You're armchairng an answer, which I guess is better than nothing in a UA-cam comment field.
Pretty awesome how a lock from 30's is better than so many locks today. In some ways this is kind of sad, but it really does show that they don't make so many things like they used to. I guess lock technology hasn't progressed to the point that a good high security lock can be easily and inexpensively made.
it's a typical automotive style arrangement they're used by just about every auto manufacturer I cut my teeth on those I've been able to use wooden popsicle sticks (slightly carved) to bump or jiggle them open when a "cust" wanted a car with an intact ignition to ship over seas with no obvious damage
My parents worked for Dudley lock in Chicago in the late 30s early 40s. I have this same padlock with the word SAMPLE in the blank space where a number would presumably be engraved.I also have some Dudley cylinders. Do you have any idea what, if any value this lock may have? Thank you for this video. It certainly shows the superb workmanship done at the time.
Wow, am I the first commenter? Regardless, I wish more lock manufacturers were making locks like this today, with today's materials and other features. Nice job, LPL!
Thanks for the information. I'm glad someone has pursued that technology. It might not be much fun for you to do, but I'd be interested in seeing one or more videos on locks that have been extraordinarily difficult to pick and why they were troublesome for you.
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How is this a better lock _today_ than like 90% of all the other modern locks.. wtf
Seriously though, one of coolest locks I've ever seen.
sooooo..... master lock.... this thing was made 90 years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!
It probably cost a small fortune when it was new. Master Lock knows that a lock only needs to be good enough, then sell plenty of those to those who will swallow the snake oil.
@@gorillaau Well if all the locks on the market are shit why bother doing anything better
@@noname-wo9yy I never said all locks are rubbish... but some just ain't evolving to come up with something better... because that takes time and money.
In a cave, with a box of scraps!
They already got the memo, sadly. Master lock bought Dudley a while back
That lock is still safe today!
It's definitely better than most of the locks on the market these days.
Why they don't make more of this type of lock today?
Increased complexity leads to increased cost.
@@arekhabentangan9778 because companies want to sell what will make them the most profit. Why mass produce a good lock people can still largely afford when you can mass produce a cheap lock, charge just as much, and the vast majority of people will still buy it based on the packaging telling them it's Pickproof McUltratough?
Its about as tough as a kar key just from looking at it.
Wow. Producing such a complex and beautiful padlock would be infeasible in today's market. Look at how many individual parts this has!
Well, I guess the depression-era job market made it feasible!
Well, maybe with Trump, there will be such locks once again ; )
Or maybe not.
@@pinetree1616 Wow - bigotry much?
@Samuel Prince And Trump reducing regulations on business bringing manufacturing back to the U.S. was nothing huh? See a doctor about that TDS.
You know its going to be a great lock when lock picking layer makes a 10 minute UA-cam clip about it.
the scary thing is, I just Googled them and if its the same Dudley. They are owned by Masterlock now...
Oh no...
Edit: I just did some research of my own, and I have bad news.
oh no
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That Dudley was certainly ahead of its time with those anti drill rods before cordless drills, that was very surprising! What a beautiful piece.
LOL... The first actual usable power drill came out in the US in 1914 by Black & Decker. Most folks due to cost were still using hand crank drills into the 60’s and 70’s. Drills were cordless before they were cordless.
They definitely do not make them like they used to a work of art in and out
It sure it. I love interesting old locks.
Always blown away with what they could do in the past. That is a seriously neat lock.
Definitely! I've been looking for one of these at the right price for a while.
Really nice and rare to see a wafer lock padlock with a removable core. Great lock :-)
+Lock Noob Thanks.
+Lock Noob I have one made by Corbin (Cabinet Locks div.), they don't seem very rare. CCL Security (the old Corbin Cabinet Locks) is still making tham with the exact same mechanism, but a different lock body. I think that it's are called the Sesamee 66.
this has to be the coolest wafer lock i've ever seen!!!!
Definitely very cool. Are you familiar with the DUO or the Alpha 800? Both really nice wafer locks. I have a couple videos on the DUO, a triple bitting wafer lock with about double the number of wafers as this one.
I like the part where he took the big screw out, because it was the only part I understood.
Wow ! I've always wanted to see one of these on video instead of line drawing and mech explosions. I really enjoy seen lock obscura like this. Thanks LPL!
+Jess Hull Thanks. I've wanted to get my hands on one of these for a while.
The gutting is almost as difficult as the picking ! Nice little lock ! Great video and explainations as usual.
Thanks. This is definitely a tricky lock to open. More so if I removed the individual wafers!
When I first saw it I thought it was a warded lock... very impressed to see anti drilling pins on a lock that old with unusual wafers...I found an old waterbury metal detecting that had wafers... very nice piece you have....
Thanks.
At the time, you didn't have to worry about drilling.
It looks like copper construction, so I'm going to assume it is, and therefore was weak to one thing. Sawing.
So I believe those are not anti-drill pieces, but anti-saw pieces.
Even by today's standards, that's a high security lock. Very nice piece of history. They don't make them like that any more. Cheers! Chris.
Thanks.
This is by far one of the most interesting locks you've ever featured. What a gorgeous design!
when the 1930s have better locks than 2019
Pretty damn amazing for a company that wasn't even specialized in making locks. I'm 100% going to do some research on the inventor of that lock. The machining alone is absolutely beautiful
The majority of good we buy today are waaay better than the ones produced 100 years ago. But some are not. This lock definitely looks like one of those exceptions!
Wow for a 90 year old lock that was impressively formidable some modern companies could learn a few things from that lock the build quality alone makes it worth the money
Hi Harry, What a great little padlock! Expensive to produce even back in those days I would think. Clever angled topped wafers, and key security as well. I assume only Dudley could cut those keys back then. Well picked and explained. Regards, Brian.
+Brian Hignett Thanks. I'd love to see the 1930s key machine for these.
It says right on the key “Dudley Key Control”. So yeah, this is definitely a key control type of key :)
That was a good lock for its time, way cool.
Thanks, and agreed.
I love seeing the different designs, especially the older ones. You can see how much more complicated,and less cost effective some of them proved to be in the long run, although mechanically extremely interesting.
Me too... the more unique, the better!
@@lockpickinglawyer security by obscurity
Now *THAT* is one really clever lock! Good vid, thank you.
Thanks, and agreed!
Amazing lock, what a mind to design and manufacture something like that back in those days.
I had no idea how many different lock brands and companies there were until I took up lock sport. It’s amazing how much a decent picker has to know to not have to start from scratch with every single lock...
I’m not a decent picker 😞
It kinda says something when something this old outclasses most padlocks produced/on the market today.
And it's just really cool/unique
I really like this lock. I don't think an amateur could pick it. By today's standards, it is overly complicated. But the designer has done a better job than most of today's lock designers even attempt. Thanks for sharing.
This is the best padlock I’ve ever seen. It’s too hard to mass produce millions of them, but locks like this should still be produced today.
I feel like locks like this are the reasons for the whole channel. This lock is so old and so cool and so much better than most of the locks of the last 100 years
A. Amazing tech for the 30's. I wonder why we don't see split wafers anymore?
B. How amazing is he to not only know how to pick everything but assembly and dis-assembly. I'm in awe.
This is such a lovely lock and video, and it makes it really clear how wafer locks work.
That Dudley lock is a really cool lock! A nice peice of history and craftsmanship.
Very nice lock LPL! I love the design of it. Thanks for the info on picking it. I have never tried to pick something like that. Nice old lock for the collection.
+Drew Estes thanks. If you want to pick something like this, just look at the Honda box from the early 2000's. Very similar.
LockPickingLawyer I will definitely look for one. Thanks for the info!
I have to wonder how long it would take a locksmith of reasonable skill to pick a lock like this without having the luxury of the key and disassembly up front. I suppose the same could be said of a number of novel locks even on the market today.
Thank you for showing this lock. A real treat.
Imagine what a lock like this would be like using modern machining. What an absolute monster.
For a moment I thought, "This is the one!", but no... he opened it.
I love BBL. (That's Big, Brass Locks, of course.) This would be a great one to have in a collection.
WOW, that's a great old lock and in fantastic condition!
+Stefan Dembowski Thanks.
First time watching you 'un-pick' a lock.
Wow...that thing had more "guts" to it than the high security locks that we used on our munitions storage bunkers when I was in the military...Definitely a work of art.
This is crazy impressive, I've just gotten my first kit and have had it for about 4 days. Just now getting down single pin picking basic standard pins on really basic locks, I have so much more respect. You make this look easy, thank you for the inspiration... I can see myself getting better everyday and hope to be half the picker you are one day.
Wow very nice. I was thinking what a nice lock and then you said lets gut it. I was blown away you could.
Thanks... and I love the fact that I could look at the innards. There's only so much you can get from the patent drawings.
I figured I would do a video here and there on locks I haven't seen picked on video, doesn't mean there not out there. I had to do a video on the community lock and I ended up doing a second on a Zi ikon padlock, nothing special just a nice looking lock.
You’re an absolute legend when it comes to locks! I can’t believe just how much you know about them!!!
Very interesting video thanks for sharing it, the lock itself looks more secure than many of todays locks, I would rather have something like that on my toolbox over an Abus rock or similar, well picked again, you always make it look easy.
+Sheriff Locksteel Thanks... I'd love to use a lock like this, if only for the cool factor.
This lock is far better built that the majority of modern locks.
it proves there were smart people all through time. very nice lock.
And imagine designing and manufacturing it with no internet, no computers, no nothing
this man is the definition of having lockpicking at 100
@Мукура Блуд general Bethesda reference tbh, Fallout and Elder Scrolls titls both have lockpicking skills
Seems like a pretty impressive lock, especially with how old it is
That's the first time I've seen a wafer lock not be a massive disappointment on this channel. In fact, it actually seems to ne way better that half of the locks on the present market
WOW! From the time the tension rod went in until shackle release was about 2 minutes and 42 seconds. That is a *long* pick for you so that lock must be brilliant. Shame there aren't locks this hard to pick today. If there were, they would be best sellers I would think.
This video is 10 min…. So a worthy challenger finally comes.
what a tricky gutting great pick man
LOL... only the first time. This was my third. :-)
Am I the only one that doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. I just watched the videos and I'm in awe of whatever he's doing and talking about. I do know one thing for sure there is nothing that is pick proof. It can have the wackiest keys you've ever seen and it seems like it doesn't stand a chance.
I immediately noticed the angled wafer ends. Interesting serrated key bow, too.
+eclipsedave not sure why they serrated the bow. You sometimes see this on older keys to distinguish it from other models. But I don't know enough about old Dudley locks to say whether that's the case.
Awesome lock - very cool that it comes apart so nicely. A great mechanism - I wonder why there are no modern locks using it. And not to forget your skilled picking on it. By the way, how did you know which wafer you had to pick on each side?
Thanks. I knew which wafers to pick from looking at the patent drawings and from taking the lock apart and exploring. "I wonder why there are no modern locks using it." -- The EVVA DUAL is pretty close. Essentially the same thing, but with 12 wafers/sliders and with sidebars that fit into them.
+LPL Actually the four "anti-drill" pins on the side are "anti-saw", so you can't saw through the lock body, something the is not taken into account nowadays.
Oooohhhh
Lock from 30's can't believe they were that advance. THAT IS THE COOLEST LOCK I HAVE SEEN YOUR ARE THE GRAND MASTER PICKER IN MY EYES LOL LOL .CAN'T HARDLY BELIEVE A BLUE PRINT WAS STILL AVAILABLE AMAZING. THANKS FOR SHOWING ME THIS GREAT VIDEO. 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟😎
+Larry Marrs Thanks, I love working with cool old locks like this!
Great video, interesting lock. Thanks!
Now that is something most modern lock makers should take back up.
Crazy that you can gut it. But so glad you could.
I'm definitely glad that we could peek inside. It's too neat a mechanism not to explore.
Thanks for showing this one. What a great lock. Things are just not made the way these days.
I thought Duo locks were tricky, that lock would keep me up at night. Beautiful lock, and pick and gut.
Hmm very similar idea to the Honda High Security split tumblers. That padlock was really ahead of it time, I have never seen such a thing. Crazy how you had to pick it twice as well.
I had to look the Honda lock up. THANK YOU for pointing that out to me. I had not seen it. I have one inbound now.
Can't wait to see it man! It will be good to see as always. Im sure I will learn way more about it as well with you reviewing it.
Wow, very interesting lock. Are you sure it's 1930's? I had no idea they had the technology for something so intricate. The holes on the Bible that the wafers lock in to would have been punched out as a flat plate on a manual bench press with a bespoke tool, and then the plate would have been shaped in to a tube between rollers. Incredible amount of work must have been involved to make this lock. it's amazing to think it was made in mass production just 10 years after world war 1. What's happened to all that skill and expertise? It saddens me. Thankyou for a great piece of history. Interesting that the lock body profile is the same shape/geometry as the HSBC logo!
extrusion as a process had been used for around a century before brass extrusion was made feasible in the 1890s.
so it could very well have been an extruded part in the 1930s, with holes punched or cut around a central rod.
Wow! That is a secure padlock!
Now I want a dudley padlock just to take apart and put back together. That looks like a lot of fun!!!
wow, an actually competent wafer lock! practically unheard of. i can see why this probably wouldnt be made today..lots of cost to manufacture with all those parts including the key needing special cuts. still, im sure the part count could be slimmed down and make it viable.
Much better than most modern locks. It must be expensive to manufacture compared to a Master or other mass produced lock I'm guessing.
A superb example of precision picking and lock.
Thanks a LOT, beautiful lock(core)
The fact it took this long for him to pick it is a good lock
that's a pretty tuff little lock, awesome pick
+Sidewinder Thanks.
Excelent job with that lock! For it's time I imagine it was probably quite expensive.
Thanks... I couldn't find anything about its price back in the day, and I did look!
Way better than a modern master lock
this thing looks like it would be a months work of prep-work to get into and another to gut it. do we know if its shimable?
It's not that bad. I played with the lock (disassembled and picked) for about 2 hours before shooting this video. As for shimming, it is technically possible, but the tolerances were good enough that my shims would not fit in the gap.
Can I ask a silly question? Why are lock pins referred to "that guy", or "got a click out of him". Is this a historical thing?
@@bbuggediffy no. That's just what he prefers to call them
@@bbuggediffy people anthropomorphise all sorts of stuff. Its just human psychology
@@VineFynn You are still not answering the real reason why LPL does it. You're armchairng an answer, which I guess is better than nothing in a UA-cam comment field.
That's a very impressively designed lock, especially considering it's age.
Nice lock. It seems that the wafers are more secure than pins.
+Bill Stafford They can be... have you seen my videos on the DUO wafer locks?
Pretty awesome how a lock from 30's is better than so many locks today.
In some ways this is kind of sad, but it really does show that they don't make so many things like they used to.
I guess lock technology hasn't progressed to the point that a good high security lock can be easily and inexpensively made.
I've never watched one finger so intently. Tension.
Great job picking brother. Nice addition. And thanks for the review!
Never before have I ever seen a lock that had to be picked to close.
You know a lock holds up when a lpl video passes the 10 minute mark
Wow. I wish we could buy more locks as good as this nowadays! *glares at Masterlock*
Masterlock noticed how a lock like this makes theirs look in comparison, and bought Dudley
Nice! Very cool lock. Thank you for the show and tell.
Thanks
Thanks for a great look at an interesting lock. Any idea why the key is notched with ridges?
+wetracy Thanks. The notch is for easy identification of the top of the key. It will only work when inserted correctly.
Now THAT is what you would call a lock!
it's a typical automotive style arrangement they're used by just about every auto manufacturer I cut my teeth on those I've been able to use wooden popsicle sticks (slightly carved) to bump or jiggle them open when a "cust" wanted a car with an intact ignition to ship over seas with no obvious damage
this should be industry standard
My parents worked for Dudley lock in Chicago in the late 30s early 40s. I have this same padlock with the word SAMPLE in the blank space where a number would presumably be engraved.I also have some Dudley cylinders. Do you have any idea what, if any value this lock may have? Thank you for this video. It certainly shows the superb workmanship done at the time.
Fantastic work, appreciate the time and effort to pick that !!!! Thanks for the video.
Thanks!
I can't wait to see your April fool's day video!!!
Great video and great lock
Wow, am I the first commenter? Regardless, I wish more lock manufacturers were making locks like this today, with today's materials and other features. Nice job, LPL!
Thanks... and there is something similar made today with modern materials and features: the EVVA DUAL
Thanks for the information. I'm glad someone has pursued that technology.
It might not be much fun for you to do, but I'd be interested in seeing one or more videos on locks that have been extraordinarily difficult to pick and why they were troublesome for you.
put that core in one of those giant Squire padlocks and you have a monster of a lock.
thanks for sharing your awesome lock.
+Arizona Outdoor Survival My pleasure.
Very cool lock thanks for your work LPL.
Thanks.
Now thats a nice lock
Very cool lock. Glad I don't have to reassemble it 😀
LOL... it's not that bad. Once you get the hang of it, I can put it together pretty quick.
Very well made lock...Nice to see..