Priests are being imprisoned in Ukraine? 🇺🇦🇷🇺
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2023
- The Russian backed Ukrainian Orthodox Church and Patriarch Kirill are unwanted has been "banned" yet as you'll see in today's video that as of mid-October, 2023 they are still in operation. I give you a tour of the thousand year old catacombs in the Kyiv Pechersk Lavra, show you the forbidden upstairs of the main church, and explain why the UOC is now disallowed in Ukraine.
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That cathedral is centuries older than Moscow is.
@@Kangh88 Quite simply it shows that Ukraine was there before Moscow and the Russian Empire existed.
@@Kangh88 so what? Part of Russia’s problem is that they’re claiming that Russia existed first before Ukraine 0:28
It's a good point, and important part of Ukrainian and Kyiv history.
@@littledikkins2253 Thats shows the chatedral was there, not that Ukraine existed. Dont be stupid. Ukraine is a very new nation, not even a 100 years old. You wont be able to find any history of them.
@@moisesperez4605 Because Russia existed before Ukraine. Even the Ukrainian language became from the Rusisan language. Dont make easily disprovable claims.
Honestly? The Russian church telling the UKRs what they can/cant do? Kick them out!
Yes. Kickout every Ruzzian influence.
Kick yourself out.
I would have also thrown out the priests from Moscow! No need for them to be in Ukraine!! Silly, for anyone to think the aren’t spying or indoctrinating the congregation!!
As I am Greek Orthodox I found this very interesting thank you Johnny ❤
Johnny, if the shoe was in the other foot, Ukrainians would’ve been long gone, so my suggestion would be kick their rear ends back to Moscow. There’s a war going on in their backing Russia, so that pro Russian faction, should be deported back to Moscow ASAP. In a immediate deportation.
I would have my foot in the middle of the butt going back to Moscow I still cannot believe when you just said Johnny, we’re in the war and they have Russian synthesizers within Ukraine is ridiculous.
It's sacrilege, Johnny, what the russian orthodox Faith did inside Ukraine's sacred places. And it's so sad that these sacred places of sanctity were refused by the russian orthodox clergy to the wounded troops, especially as they have a hospital building there. That almost sounds like they were well aware that russia was likely to target any hospital that was treated Ukrainian wounded military. And if they were in cahoots with their boss-man back in russia, then it's not difficult to see that there was russian propaganda being pushed to the Ukrainians who attend their regular churches.
That was so sad to see how they just painted their own mural there, as you say, right next to Jesus Christ.
So many of the churches and cathedrals across Ukraine are so beautiful and many are very ornate, but even those that are less so, I'm sure feel so right to be in. I've seen pictures of a fair few, and of course the ones in my family's regions.
My Mother *always* covered her head and wore dresses or skirt to church, as did we, the girls in our family. My Father had I believe a scarf he'd give to Mum to wear, and it has a beautiful story behind it. I didn't inherit that, but that's okay, I will likely make and embroider my own headscarf before I come to Ukraine.
How gentle and polite was that priest who asked you to excuse him. This is the way, the good manners I knew that my late Father had. That was how we were raised.
I am so sorry that your guide carries such sorrow in his heart. That pained me to see and I do so hope he will take strength from knowing that churches are precious but it is the congregation that is the true church. Ukraine I am sure will build such beautiful churches after her victory. Cultural history gets handed down through the generations - we never lose it even if someone thinks they have stolen it from us. But you know that, Johnny.
Thank you so much for taking us with you.
I love the serenity and the calmness when inside churches. That is what makes them a place of sanctity and refuge.
russia commits the hugest of sins, and larger sins when their war causes so much death and destruction, especially bringing destruction to God's house, as our priests used to call sacred buildings.
You should do more videos like this. I'm from Ukraine but I never been there. Very interesting.
So you're not from there then, but your parents are.....
Oh, did you mean you've never been to Pechersk Lavra? It is very beautiful from what I've seen online. I hope to see many churches when I finally come to meet Ukraine.
Donetsk berdiansk!!!!!!
If I were to draw my interpretation of what Satan looks like it would look exactly like Kirill
Russian Orthodox Church AKA FSB. lol
вас наверное головой сильно ударили?/you must have been hit hard with your head?@@spkz0r
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Bow to the FSB operatives!
Russia trying to rewrite history reminds me of the book 1984
Exactly! I just rewatched that old movie on UA-cam. It’s been colorized and it’s very interesting! I highly recommend it; if people have not ever read the book or seen the movie before, please do so! We actually read it when I was in high school in 1984, and I think everyone should read it today to help understand the ruSSian mindset, and how russia treats its people!
An alternate history for an alternate future.
@@markmitchell457 You guys are doing that thou. Pick up a history book. You dont even find mentions of Ukriane before modern history.
The UOC is not run by Russia Metropolitan Onuphry has been outspoken in his support for Ukraine of course they are in Eucharistic communion but most of the Orthodox World is in communion with the Russian church.
This is an incredibly interesting and informative video
Definitely something worth seeing I love History! I have ti agree though I'd send the priest packing back to Russia as well
Just without their bags full of stolen relics. =)
The church as a instrument of the the state. Still enforcing treating women different.
What's all this "cover your hair" stuff for women. That's in just left over BS from ancient Middle Eastern religions.
I like what Roman's girlfriend did when they visited an Orthodox Church. They made her wear a scarf and then they loaned her a long skirt from a big basket of skirts. She stole them both😆
Very interesting. I’ve been to Kiev three times but never took a tour of any of the churches. Will definitely not make the same mistake next time I’m there.
Kyiv ; )
There is two theologically identical but organizationally separate Orthodox churches in Ukraine: Church loyal to Kyiv Patriarchate and Church loyal to Moscow Patriarchate.
I want to add some historical context:
Over centuries Kyiv was religious hub for Eastern Slavs and thus Patriarch of Kyiv was senior Orthodox leader. But in 1589, Patriarch of Constantinople Jeremias II travelled to Moscow and was pressured to consecrate Patriarch Job of Moscow as the Eastern Orthodox All-Rus Patriarch. This was contentious action because Patriarch Jeremias II was exiled from Constantinople (taken by Turks) and had little choice but to do what Tsar in Moscow wanted.
Hence primacy of Patriarch of Moscow is based solely on legally dubious act done 400+ years ago. In other words, this religious-administrative conflict is not invented by ‘Ukrainian nationalists’ or ‘Zelensky’ but actually predates first trip of Pilgrims to North America.
😂Неправда ти не український православний🤣
This is a really great trip and hope you learn a lot of history here and being able to see here is really great Thanks Johnny for your videos.😎👍
More to come!
When there were academies in Kyiv, instead of Moscow there was literally a swamp with frogs. Moscow is built on a swampy area.
and yet Kiev(Kyiv) is still mainly russian speaking city. Why is that?
@@vkt2805 In the Soviet Union, the Bolsheviks Russified all peoples and talked about one people, although this is not true, because Tatars, Chechens and Ukrainians are different peoples with their own languages and traditions. Books, training, documentation, etc. were in Russian for all countries that were part of the Soviet Union. Even after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia continued to impose the Russian language on former Soviet Union countries. Now when Ukraine is teaching in the Ukrainian language, Russia shouts the most about the oppression of the Russian language. Although no one forbids learning any language.
@@Overbet you stated Chechnya as an example and yet in Chechnya the most widely spoken language amongst people is not russian, despite all of the oppression of local languages, and Chechnya is still part of Russia(compared to Ukraine). Don't write BS. Я з України, і жив в Києві 5 років. Це ти можеш англомовним всяку пургу-отмазки втирати чому в києві по сьогодні українська не поширена в побуті. Поняв?
vt2805 is just another vatnik Orc spreading ridiculous propaganda. Thankfully, the fascist Ivans will soon be removed from Ukraine for good.
Bro i couldnt care less about Ukraine or Russia, but the fact that Moscow was built on a swamp makes it all the more impressive.
Kyiv is 650 years older than moskow, need to get rid of all ruzzian influence
Agree. Ruzzia is a curse on the modern world.
But the city being old doesnt mean the nation holding it is originated from that time. Europe has plenty of cities that are older than the nations in them. I mean most european cities have Ancient Roman cities, but they arent Ancient Roman civilizaitons. How old are you 12? Go and listen to your history teacher.
Ukraine history starts in 1918 lol
@@avlach3088 They cant really comprehend that when Kiev was built there werent anything remotely related to Ukraine existing. This videos commentsection is a shame on some history teachers.
So glad you film in 4K. Really makes a BIG difference. Looks sooooo much better in 4K.!!! Thanks Johnny!!!😀😊😊
It would look even better at p60 like some Ukrainian youtubers do. Walking in Kyiv, Kyiv city walk and Lviv city walk. Tania Kovba is new lifestyle vlogger and makes quality videos with good English. p60 really makes fast moving camera pannings smooth.
Using Dji mic wireless would make these type of videos even better.
Amazing visuals and fascinating history! Thanks for taking us along, you are Ukraine’s #1 visitor guide
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
I was wondering if you’d ever get there…..lots of history, interesting, beautiful, but not a restaurant…..🥰
I've been wondering how it looks inside and this was the first time someone had the courage to show it. Looks amazing.
We went to a great restaurant attached to the church after, but I didn't film it. 😂
Hi Johnny. I never passed by an opportunity to go inside a church in Ukraine. There’s even s Shul in Kiev, near a restaurant (tee-hee)churches are all over. Lviv’s old town area is full of them. Many have fameous-miraculus icons, according to believers. There are icon ‘writing’ centers that are interesting to visit. Current folks making icons, even guilding with gold leaf. You also may enjoy visiting a few museums: artwork, handcrafts, antique items. Right near the Lavra is a military museum from WWII with fantastic statuary. The tall lady, like our statue of liberty loverlooks the military grounds. They recently put a trident on her shield removing a scythe. Also in Kiev is a museum of the Chernoble disaster. Ukraine has two Lavras. The other is in the Western part.
Nice to get a personal response. Thank you for supporting your country of choice. Baba Ma-roux-sha.
Moscow let's not forget, was only barren fields when Saints were buried here.
I was there a few months ago. It is really cool. Kind of weird how many people were there kissing all the coffins of the dead monks.
Bigwombat: Much of this veneration of relics stems from the Christian Crusades.
Those who fought in the Crusades were forgiven their sins by the Pope. As time went on, not everyone was healthy or strong enough to go and fight, but they could pay money towards supporting the Crusades. In return they gained Papal indulgences and remissions from their sins.
This carried on to selling relics ie. Splinters and fragments from the wooden cross that Jesus was crucified on and bones of the Saints and items touched by the Saints.
Pilgrimages were made from far and wide to visit such 'holy shrines' were Saints were buried.
Some of these Pilgrimages are still popular to this day in places. Santiago de Compestella in Spain and the Pilgrimage to where Thomas a Beckett was murdered by Knights on the instructions of Henry II.
Religion and politics have always been intertwined unfortunately.
During COVID-19 times? Kissing coffins is risky business. Same as kissing the Blarney Stone in Ireland. Too many codies for me.
What? No food. Brandon said you always have food on ( the coffee does not count ).
We actually ate at a really nice Ukrainian restaurant next to the Church after, but I didn't film it. Oops!
What would I do when the Russian priests wouldn't leave? It wouldn't have been pretty if a little persuasion didn't give them the idea that they should get the hell out of there and go back to the KGB in Russia.
But there is a reason no one lets me do any master minding now days.😎
22:49 do you wanna know why "they're too nice"? Because ukrainian "religion"(ПЦУ) is the minority, while russian "religion"(УПЦ МП) is the mainstream. The authorities are afraid because they know that people don't like when state's politicians interfere with religion. I am from Transcarpathian region(Закарпаття), and during this war only three churches in my 1mln+ people region moved/changed they status onto ukrainian "religion"(ПЦУ). While the rest remain as it was. For me for example - I am used to making my prayings in OldChurched-Slavic language, and I have no desire to do it in ukrainian, because its not natural for me and other majority of people.
You know too little, mate. The narrative you propagate - is the propaganda of radical minority that are trying to make it look like it represents the whole ukrainian population.
Типова московитська брехня ;) ваша рпц піддана анафємє, яка досі не знята😂
musk is now worried about kgb priests. this is unbelievable. seems he is worried about the dying empire, never saying a word against it. moreover his actions render him like if he works for them in the info war, just like propagandist solovyov. hmm, how so?
Thank you Johnny for all that you do.
Thanks for watching and supporting!
How beautiful!
Grateful for this post! It breaks my heart that disagreement over religion and politics over land ownership causes so much killing, destruction, and pain…(all over the world).
The churches were wonderful, except for the political issues that were flaunted.😢😢😢
Nice video Johnny miss these type of informative tour vlogs from you haha
Beautiful buildings! I can only hope they won't get destroyed by russian missiles.
Yhis is just wrong christian fighting christian for nationalism
Thanks for this video👍
A sad case.
Ukraine has been wanting religious independence for hundreds of years. The russian church didn't start intil the 1600's. The Ukrainian orthodox church under Constantinople was thriving long before that. It's complicated but there's a great video by Politics with Paint called "Why russia and Ukraine also fight over religion". That video seems to describe it the best way.
We are currently voting at our local Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Protection of the Holy Theotokos Parish) about whether or not to change our calendar (to be in line with other Orthodox Churches such as the Greeks, Bulgarians..) I personally know many people (Priests included) who are choosing to abstain, mainly as I understood out of not wanting to involve politics with religion, but here we are.
Today was one of the most special holidays in our Church, Pokrova. It was the Feast Day of the Intercession (or Protection) of the Most Holy Virgin Mary, and also the day of Ukrainian Kozakdom, as the Kozaks always had the Virgin Mary as their patroness and protector. Either we will celebrate on the 1 October, which to me would personally be amazing since then I would celebrate this beautiful feast day every year coinciding with my birthday (and the Church New Year would be 1 September, my Name Day) or it will continue to be celebrated on 14 October. I believe in Ukraine they have already moved that date of Pokrova to 1 October, but traditionally some of my friends who are also patriots celebrated today.
We are in a very strange period now, where the Russian church thinks that Kyiv is their most important religious city (it always was, and they lost that claim after all of their atrocities in history against our nation) and Ukraine having to both defend itself in real life as well as sustain attacks from misinformed people commenting on current events (like Tucker).
My apologies for my longwinded, all over the place comment, and I want to show my gratitude to you Johnny for visiting this holy place for our Ukrainian Orthodox community. Safe travels and take care. SLAVA.
I am curious to see how many people celebrate Christmas on Dec 25th this year instead of the old January 7th date. I think it's going to be much higher than in the past.
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Johnny, i am so glad that you are touring this incredibly beautiful complex of churches. I was sad last time you walked around the courtyard and didn't go in. Thank you for the tour.
The russian Orthodox Church is lead by Kirl who said that Ukraine should be erased from the earth. Before becoming a priest, he was KGB.
Remember, under the USSR, churches other tgan the Russian Orthodox Church, were closed. They were illegal. That is why so nany Ukrainians now go to church after the USSR collapsed.
Thank you for the tour. I haven't been there since 1989. I was good to see tge beautiful inside.
I'm with you brother... As for what I would do, well...if I could start with removing Tuckems Carlson.😉😉 HEROYAM SLAVA
SLAVA UKRAINI 💪🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦✌️
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Its very powerful area, you feel like something in the air. The vide will not show you everything. I don't know how they allowed to make video in church.
I'm in the EU and planning on visiting Kyiv for 2 weeks (Oct - Nov). How's weather that time of year there?
Dont you have computers over there?
Very cool video, thank you for sharing.
Did you skip the meal today?
Haha we ate at a nice restaurant attached to the church after, but I didn't' film it.
Beautiful
Nice video Johnny, I had the privilege of visiting this place in 2018, it’s like being transported back in time to Constantinople in a sense.
They (the Russian patriarchy at Lavra) were always stirring scandals too; they were caught having parties with alcohol, molesting children, and operating illegal businesses on the monastery territory.
They are considered the most corrupt people on earth.
If you're more corrupt than the Chinese, you're pretty bad.
Catholics in Rome were also caught in scandals of molesting minors. Question -Why Catholic church is still not banned?
А ссылочку, откуда инфа? Просто похоже на очень пьяный бред, мадам.
@@user-xl2mr8km6bthank god i was raised protestant
I can't believe they let you film inside the caves. I've been there many times in the upper and lower caves, and it was always frowned upon taking photos in there. Looks like you were in the lower caves. Let me know when you find the "dragon" caves in Kyiv.
The infrastructure of religious suppression.
Nice! Thanks for the video Johnny, you always have good content, this was no exception. Thanks for all you do brother!
Thanks for watching and being a subscriber!
Well then. O.o
Мне грустно, потому что православные христиане делятся и разделяются и среди них разжигаются проблемы в пользу группы злых людей.
Very beautiful, I visited 4 years ago. my mother lived in Ukraine for 20 years. Appreciate everything you do!
Excellent vedio content I share out in community and telegram page I give u like 👍.
22:58 how to know that you are being manipulated? by the super worried face like that... tucker... putinson has...
ps and musk pumps him up 🤦 harder times ahead?
tucker is based,
@@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356- Based in bullshit.
Україна для українців геть!!!! 🇺🇦♠️♥️ ☦️
This guy has a video titled *"I USED TO BE A MILLIONAIRE 🇺🇦 Before Russia Invaded Ukraine…"*
And I'm supposed to trust this guy's history lessons when he's this biased against Russia?
No not true ukraine never imprisoned ukraine
I want those doors 🇺🇦🙏🕯🌻🇺🇸🇨🇦🇬🇧🇪🇺
Это лавра?
Так
Your friend has a NY Mets baseball cap. He must be a very good person :)
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You herro !!!!! Bald and global treats want video!!!!
Do they still have the orphanage in the Lavra? The wailing children still haunt me. I will never forget at the end of a very hot day, the young boy who walked around with a big sack and gave the Lavra beggers some corn. Do they still beg at the Lavra?
I didn't see any children nor beggars there.
May Russia be blessed and repent for what they have done.😭
all those paintings are alright,,, of course i could do better in 24hour easy..... hahahaha like balls i could, its really pretty mind blowing to be honest... thanks Johnny and the guides was a really interesting watch
Thank you so much 😀
I love beautiful orthodox churches they are special places. No one should have to lose their love ones on both sides .
Tell that to the Russia's who keep sending their Husbands and fathers to go kill in Ukraine.
What's a fake. There are no and there were no russian priests. All priesthood are from Ukraine, Ukrainian citizens. Ukrainian Orthodox Church is separated from russian one from 1991. The very first day Ukrainian Orthodox church condemned russian invasion
Lavra is being now raided and turned into museum but it is and it was from the very beginning a monastery. Monks and orthodox people dis everything here. But now it's almost empty. It's not good.
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Very nice! Why so many dislikes though?
Russian bots.
Wow 😂😂😂
Just for the history the Ukrainian Orthodox Church was under the jurisdiction of Moscow Patriarchate until 2019 when for geopolitical reasons it was given autocephaly by the Ecumenical Patriarchate. All the rest is plain BS.
Типова московитська брехня ;)
@@Oleksandr_Kryvenko the Patriarchate of Constantinople granted on 5 January 2019 autocephaly to the Ukrainian Orthodox Church thats plain fact.
You can believe any other BS you want, and BTW I'm Greek and those news where first page here back in 2019.
I think banning radical Catholics is not a bad idea. We need to do the same here in the United States.
Anybody who is preaching violent overthrow of the local government needs to be removed from positions of power!
Ban radical fundies too. Extremists and biblical literalists are just as much of a menace as militant fanatics in Islam.
I am not a fan of the Catholic Church, so I agree with you.
Banning any church is bad even when it is just Russian propo. I am sure the Ukrainians will choose to ignore the propo..
Навіть якщо церква - філія КДБ?
Let me guess... Christian?
Eastern Orthodox
UOC is not yet dissallowed in Ukraine. It is still active.