Pierre Schaeffer & Pierre Henry: Orphée 53 (1953)
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- Опубліковано 16 лют 2013
- Pierre Schaeffer (1910-1995) & Pierre Henry (1927-2017): Orphée 53, Spectacle Lyrique, per nastro e campionamenti (1953).
I. Prolog
II. Premier air d'Orphée [01:15]
III. Premier récitativ d'Orphée [03:17]
IV. Les Monstres [06:37]
V. Parade d'Eurydice [10:00]
VI. Débat d'Orphée [13:24]
VII. Rupture finale [18:39]
Cover image: Pierre Schaeffer and Pierre Henry.
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This totally changed my concept of "experimental" and "ahead of his time"
Goodbye Pierre Henry :(
1927 - 2017
Innovator of Composed Sound / Pioneer of Musique Concrète / My Hero
De la musique industrielle avant l heure ! Incroyable ! 1953! Des génies !
These early pioneers of musique concrete were very insight and inventive. Long live GRM.
Get high, turn off the lights, and take a shower to this music and the devil himself will appear to ask you how your day was
@ZionHillCalling Why would you roast him
Excellent !!!!
sounds so plausible I am almost scared to try
Hmmmm.....thankx for. tHe recommendation, I haven't talked to hiM in a while.
@@Dark-Taboo me either. covid eh.
They are the real time travelers.
Original innovator and pioneers of acousmatic-electroacoustic and contemporary music (1927 - 2017 ), a concret classic opéra .
This is incredibly ahead of it's time.
This could easily pass as the latest Nurse with Wound release.
Yep, it's all been done before . Just think about what technology they had to use back then . Remarkable .
@Doomsday Defense 1977 oh! well heart ;)
hummm
This is amazing, I don’t notice i’ve spent 20 minutes. I think I just traveled through dimensions lol.
1953?
fabulous
Absolutely glorious!!!!
I doubt I'll ever understand what this musique concrète music is all about. But I know I love it, because these 20 minutes felt like 2 minutes of pleasure!
Great!!! Thank you for uploading.
50年代 現代音楽と言うよりノイズ系音楽は
無性に聴きたくなる時があります
マックもサンプラーも無い時代
スゴイです
No words, simply great...
This is amazing.
Salut Pierro ! Belle Carrière !
I like that one of them is wearing a suit with a tie and other one just a T-Shirt. 😃
Pierre Henry: The ultimate music for dropping acid
Beautiful
Enfin une photo de nos maitres ! Lalalalala ! Musique concrete ! Ancetre de la musique electronique et par sample !
On second thought, I love IT!
Nice this will clear out the room. Put this when u want ur guess to Leave.
THIS is solo goot.
R.I.P. Pierre Henry
Thanks.
8:10 This kind of a thing was still relevant deep into the 80s and 90s which is saying something wow, the saplings for electronic and industrial music just right there! You can hear where sound collages came out of just by listening to this stuff as well as the experimentation of the psychedelic era (i.e Tomorrow Never Knows & Frank Zappa) imagine creating something so timeless. If you listen to some modern industrial / experimental hip hop, this continues to be relevant now into the 2020s!
rest in piece Pierre Henry
Sounds like this could be a soundtrack for a horror film or a surreal thriller.
dude this is beautiful
Transportation of the inner mind at its’ finest 🙏🎛❤️ Rest In Peace ☮️ PS/PH
still love it!!
master and master...
Fantastic
I like it very much. Personally I am devotee of master stockhausen though
Check out his licht cycle :)
Ben Powell I have checked it out. It's a grandiose opera. My favourite
@@SaccidanandaSadasiva Have you heard the whole opera?
Ben Powell probably around 20 out of 29 hours. I have full mittwochs, donnerstag, freitag and samstag. And pieces out of the rest
On travaille sur cette chanson au collège XD JE L'ADOOOOORE OoO
Marie Baka pareilll😂😂😂
il tue ton collège
Very Interesting
Today this music would be considered noise music or maybe avant-garde. Has a real surreal quality to it.
It was considered avant-garde then, and this is not noise at all, noise was a lot more extreme and took full shape decades later, prior to its inception there were very few musicians or pieces that could be described as "noise music"
Lindo!
Bravo.
majestuoso
Grandioso...!
Blown away by the
richness and contrasts. "Threnody for Frank Zappa " by
Tony villodas composer
very cool
So this is where Mike Patton gets some of his ideas for Fantomas.
cool music
Outstanding aural conversation !
Fantastic piece. But it hardly sounds like my idea of concrete music or reduced listening. The sonic profile is, on the contrary, extremely evocative and dramatic. The whole piece is like an almost programmatic theatre piece in pure sound, perhaps suggestive of what blind people experience while watching movies (in this case an edgy short film). This powerfully suggestive piece of sound theatre seems to have gone in the opposite direction from abstraction or of any distancing from creating relatively concrete imagery. I could see this music having a script written to it where the visuals and action are well, and easily, suited to the sounds. Something Poesque or Kafkaesque perhaps.
+gnikcohs Then you may like Lt. Caramel and Vladimir Ussachevsky's "Film Music" album.
+Steven Streight
+gnikcohs I think that all that was meant by the term "concrete" at the time was just "recorded sounds" and nothing else particularly or philosophically abstract.
+atwaterpub
gnikcohs I think that at that time (1950's) , just using recorded sounds of any kind in a concert setting was itself a radical idea.
I am looking on Discogs for this release, the Orphee Ballet by Pierre Henry is different from this. Do you know if this release is available on vinyl?
Turn on, tune in, drop out... or get high. Lol. But it's really mesmerizing.
my mind is blown.
I am not criticizing anything. I think this is great! Big fan of Schaeffer and now, of Henry. Someone is going to hate on my comment for sure. You watch. It's just my opinion. This brings to mind, The Beastie Boys ans Paul's Boutique. That record changed sampling laws in my opinion and there is no way they could have made it today, or since then. So, my point and comparison is that Musique Concret, is heavily based on samples. Very long samples. Get my drift? Who are some current Concrete artists?
+ scott - i know what you mean - i´ve been making "concrete music" myself (without knowing this term and these composers here) from the late 70s into the 2000s, but i lost a bit of interest lately - just found a guy from belgium who goes in that direction and who recommended pierre schaeffer to me, very interesting indeed... :-)
we met at a basil kirchner album here on youtube, haha...
ua-cam.com/video/mh47AcSCQF8/v-deo.html
greetings from germany
That’s the point of Musique Concret. To showcase that music can be cut, mutated, and edited. The search for sound. Obviously the sampling that was done in this clip was of that age. But the functionality of Musique Concret is still alive (digitally, such as a DAW rather than tape). The editing done on this audio was done by cutting and re-aligning tape. Proving that music sound can be manipulated. The goal musique concret lives on
nice
Обалдеть!;)
Je travaille sur un projet de remix de mes vielles K7. Des morceaux électroacoustiques. Sauf que je n'ai plus de Lecteur de Band magnétique pour enregistrer sur ordinateur. Et des Bandes on disparut au conservatoire me concernant. Un collègue compositeur je suppose... Dur dur la reconstitution d'œuvres....
Les premiers VRAI DJ !
Why do I picture Ren Hoek having a freakout to this?
does anyone have a transcript of the spoken word parts?
Why is Pierre Schaeffer credited for this? As far as I am aware, he was the director of the studio, but isn't this composition by Pierre Henry. Is this from the vinyl disc Philips 'Modern Music Series' 835.484 LY (drame chorégraphique en huit tableaux)? Or is this yet another version of 'Orphée'?
I'm not sure which version of Orphée this is but in the translations of Pierre Schaeffer's journals, he reflects upon the moment he had the 'absurd idea' to do an Orphée, after seeing a 'sexless...' and 'not at all "operatic"' Marie Férès in Gluck. He also writes about his satisfaction over Maurice Le Roux standing down from the project, citing that Maurice wasn't as committed to the project as Pierre Henry and himself were
Was that callas in the beginning?
And at 16.00 those background synths were put there by the composers or they already existed?
Not callas... Sounds a bit like Janet Baker.
its the noise that. makes it uncredibly gooooood fucking recommend high
my girl is not going to understand tonight's theme....
LMAO you didnt
That’s FCKKKin on point!
Berios " Visage" great for lite bondage and spanking. Good for tripping too.
Why the long face(s)?
I've long loved this ancient cut-up-or-shut-up analog experimentation. In the mid-1970s the CBC ran a series on experimental music (many of it pioneers were Canadians); the style endures.
Somehow there is the sneaking suspicion that the more technology muscles in (particularly digital, which by its very nature is totalitarian: 0 / 1) the less effervescent creativity can bubble forth, on its own accord.
Just like pop music, which enjoyed its most rousing epoch in the 1920s / 1930s, never to return.
0 1 is the digital language?
Turn off your mind and float down the stream
What equipment did they use to make this early electronic avant garde? I'm intrigued
Phonogene. Tape recorder, probably not more than 4tracks, that along with great hand made editing.
Big machines. Very big machines.
And a lot of cutting and repositioning of section of tape.
Magic and secrets elements from the future: A microphone, A tape, Scissors and Glue
its not avant garde
Listen !
Pierre Schaeffer, Pierre Henry, Pierre Boulez ...
Wish I could translate all the words! Spell-binding piece...
is "50s burial" a fair comparison?
banger alert
Is it really from 1953? The sound quality is more like from 10 years later at least...
Legal até mas
God damn I want to put this in a horror movie xd or a horror videogame xd would fit 10/10
great Dramaturgy.
Has this ever been used in a scary movie? This is amazing but creepy.
Good point
Wow nice trip Rico suave I'm flying ;)
Not true look up Hector Berlioz
fumar un porro antes de escuchar esto es altamente recomendable
Ordinario como empanada de polenta
Amargo como pedo de vieja.
Gorgorino de pilto sira se mueve al toltil tol. Polenta si! Couscous no! jajaja... entonces, cual es la diferencia entre tu percepcion de este musica sin/con el porro?
@@calcairecamhi tendrás que fumar uno para saberlo mi amigo
Who is the singer? Janet Baker?!
Perso cette musique je l’écoute en cours de musique 😂
Pareil 😭😂😂
God Music
Nos MAESTROs et non stomae ... ORPHEE opus 53...
How was your day?
@11.33
Too busy to do the Dr Who theme. Thank goodness
Sá porra da medo, credk
q nada musica concreta e 1 obra de arte musical
Ele tem umas q dão bemmmmmm mais hahahahhaha
這不是真正大鍵琴的聲音吧！應該是電子大鍵琴才對 。
👁️🍄👁️
Ne pas confondre Morphée et Orphée !
fritagogo1 orphée et eurydice 😂😂😂🤪
SOS= On va détruit la maison studio de Pierre Henry à Paris et 10 000 bandes sonores avec... indignés que l'on traite un compositeur mondialement célèbre et fondateur de l'audio la TV Française et GRM ??? patrimoine ???... SOS
This sounds like liminal spaces
Les compositeurs de musique contemporaine après 1980 on du mal a ce faire reconnaitre. Après les Maestros qui ont tout prit l'espace musicale. Que reste-il ?...
je n'ai plus composé depuis plus de 5 ans des moreaux ( Œuvres musicales ) Dégoût, Solitude, provincial, Rejet, Manque de moyen, Bof !...
Si c'est pour la reconnaissance que tu compose, je te suggère de choisir une autre voie pour obtenir ta reconnaissance ; Tu n'as qu'à faire des vidéos UA-cam par exemple, des memes, ou poster des top commentaires.
Effectivement, l'environnement musicale actuel laisse peu de place à l'individu (en fait je pense même que la course a la reconnaissance sera bientôt complètement vaine dans tous les domaines). Je compose moi même de la musique complètement personnelle, sans doute merdique aux yeux de n'importe qui, avec des moyens de clochards, et ce n'est pas le manque de reconnaissance ou un environnement plein de concurrence qui m'arrêtera un jour de faire ce que j'aime.
Et puis comme il a été prouvé qu'on aime la musique quand elle nous est familière, la seule manière d'être reconnu de son temps c'est de faire comme ce qui existe déjà. Donc en soit, composer pour être reconnu de son temps, c'est a la fois vain et contre productif.
Tu compose donneur de leçon ...
Respect les ancien du conservatoire en premier et en second: tous on n'avait pas la même chance ! Mes amis compositeurs travail ailleurs mais ils composent toujours ! Au bon moment au bonne endroit c'est cela la chance et opportunité !... On n'a pas de leçon les vieux compositeurs des années 1980 à recevoir !
Pour la province c'est toujours plus difficile même avec le Web !
Après Jarre c'est toujours difficile ! L’éditeur de Jarre ayant refusé de m'aider ! Je dois avoir la lettre de refus comme preuve ! et d'autre éditeurs Island Virgin etc...
étrange...mais Orphée est bien là
Kathrine Oram
Que musica mas fea
Por que no tienes cerebro ni capacidad mental que te lleve mas alla de lo superficial. Andate a escuchar Bad Bunny es lo correcto para ti niño
C'est de la musique de schizophrène!
This music is jarring and unpleasant.
That’s the point. Random sounds. Based on mathematical equations
Boulez does not approve this
Cringe