@@somerandomgamer8504 And then next he's gonna tell me that drinking a highly poisonous and irradiated soda doesn't give you invincibility for 8 seconds???///?
"I'm starting to think I'm being trolled." - Whoever got you to attempt to analyse the realism of the absurdity that is TF2 certainly had that in mind.
Just a reminder that Abraham Lincon invented stairs to replace rocket jumping, but lost the blueprints only for them to be rediscovered by Franklin D. Roosevelt.
@@d4s0n282 Yeah, I feel like journalism really doesn't have any standard when it comes to accurately portraying what they are talking about. Only fair to let him know the history of the game he's looking at or the reasons for weird inconsistencies.
In TF2 lore, the guy who sells the weapons to the mercenaries cares not about function or reason. He pretty much hot-glues miscellaneous gun parts together and sells them with even stranger hats. It kind of makes sense that these guns defy all known logic of weaponry.
The Medic's syringe gun is based on real life syringe guns. The little bulb that the Medic puts into the gun to reload is actually an air canister, implying that there is an infinite supply of syringes, but you have to load more air into the gun to propel them.
The reload sounds actually kinda makes sense now, since it sounds vaguely similar to putting a new cO2 canister into an airsoft gun and breaking the seal on it.
nah, it makes sense. shots are stored in the bottom barrel, and then sent to the top (maybe via a piston or something) and then fired out the top. it also explains the reload and the top barrel unusual.
In the original design of The Black Box, it was meant to have 4 barrels, but the game devs couldn't get the rockets to shoot out of different points on the rocket launcher, so they fell back to having it be single barrel instead. They also strangely have it only hold 3 rockets, as opposed to the 4 that it should be able to hold, making it one of the few weapons in the game to hold less ammo than it could in real life.
What I said had *absolutely nothing* to do with how many shots the weapon has versus how many barrels it has, and entirely to do with the weapon it was based on. I already made that clear, stop bringing up irrelevant game mechanics.
I love TF2's meta humor. I'd imagine many people who unlock the Ullapool Caber probably try to figure out how to actually throw it, frantically looking for the correct button so they can get back to playing. But you don't. You blow it up in your face by pummeling someone with it, because your character is drunk.
Вообще у инжа в пда есть спецальная управляющая матрица которая работает на всеми любимом золотом веществе и посути сентря имеет огромный спект сенсоров , инфакрсный , цветовой , тепловой , но не смотря на это пушка все равно не может обнаружить спая в инвизе или маскировке из-за чего можно сделать вывод того либо у шпика очень хорошее оборудование или сенсоры пушки далеко не идеальны
An interesting part of Pyro using the flare gun as a weapon is that many of their weapons aren't actually weapons. They can equip things such as mailboxes, garden rakes, and fire axes as melee weapons. The flamethrowers are also canonically improvised weapons.
@Robert Seasrs uhh lad you literally just insulted the TF2 player base. Plus not all weapons are fantasy weapons. Ex the stock pistol, luger, revolver, and several other shotguns such as the force of nature. Also that's part of the game lad the goofiness of the guns adds color to a game that literally uses cartoon graphics.
@Robert Seasrs imagine looking at a cartoony game and expecting realistic physics and logic. You can rocket jump for crying out loud you absolute spastic
Honestly it's a shame the Mythbusters stopped when they did. Would have been hilarious if they tested to see if the physics behind rocket jumping are even possible in real life. Assuming the rocket wouldn't hurt you, could you actually use an explosion like that to ride high into the air?
@@talonus202 I remember. It was a bit disappointing actually because the system they had for dropping Buster onto the mock train station failed and he fell way off target, but they declared it busted anyway because of the sheer amount of flying debris that would have absolutely killed him (including an iron bar completely wrapped around a tree branch).
"If they make a team fortress 3 they will have to animate the hammer" Clearly Jonathan is unaware of Valve's counting disability and the tf2 community's lack of care for logic
I’m surprised he didn’t have an aneurysm after seeing Scout’s Scattergun. I love how you can tell he’s an old gamer by him saying “frags” instead of kills. Loving this series and this gentleman.
Well, when talking about explosive weapons, generally fragmentation is the main lethal force. That said, given he references quake alot, he's definitely old school
@@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries To be honest, while it’s not as common anymore I still hear it. I’ve heard it a ton in CS:GO, weirdly enough considering that it’s one of the furthest games from Quake (granted, I play a lot of both so maybe it’s not as odd as I thought).
If they showed him everything, I imagine scenes of a scout and demo beating each other with a fish and a frying pan while an engie plays banjo in the background, will bless his dreams
This man is not just a firearms expert, he also knows his video games. I was impressed that he noticed the similarities to Quake, which is very accurate, considering that the original Team Fortress was just a Quake mod for Counter Strike.
almost correct but not a quake mod for counterstrike. it was originally a mod for Quake, then valve hired the team that made the mod and wanted them to port it to half life 1's engine.
@@CallofDutyBlackOps28 And thats completely wrong since there are multiple ammo boxes being dropped from dead players. There is probably a few clips with guns being picked up, but the ammo boxes stand out much more.
@@sud1881 Ye. It doesn't do enough to instant kill the user and often not the (other) victim either, but it can kill the user if their hp is low enough
@@dudewithmittens3004 Problem is, Valve can't count to 3. We're at Portal 2, Team Fortress 2, Half-Life 2 (If you don't count Alyx), and we don't even have Steam 2, just Steam Classic for downloading games online.
I suspect what is reloaded to the Syringe Gun is some sort of compressed air or pneumatic component to fuel the ejection of the needles, and that due to the size of the needles, the drum can hold the full 150 maximum capacity of syringe rounds that these guns typically carry without needing to be changed too often.
"Today we're going to examine a pirate ship's wheel that magically makes the user charge at an unbelievable speed, all while highlighting their silhouette"
@@compeas Team Fortress 2 Episode 1 and Episode 2 soon coming to The Orange Box 2 Along with Half Life Alyx and Portal Alyx, *three* great games, one package. "awkward cough"
5:01 I think the point of the weapon is that it's supposed to be strange. To me, because of the name, it has that theme of "I know it's weird, but I got it half off at the shop, so I'm going to use it."
"Yes I am overthinking this" Isn't that exactly why we're watching? To watch a guy comedically overanalyze the realism of a distinctly not realistic game?
I love how he actually pays attention to and observes the tiny details like the amount of damage done per shot that others wouldn't notice, it gives him a better understanding and shows he actually cares about learning more
Its like shrödinger's cat, on hit, both of ye and the person ye hit are placed in a box in which there is 50/50 chance that yee die, you can imagine this as either the caber explodes in the box and frags yer every single atom or it just blows putting some shrapnels in yee little body. Now many people connected caber explosions to ye lord Gaben, but as ye can see I don't. (although random crits are totes under Gaben's control)
Would love to see his reacting to the revised versions of the TF2 guns in Hotdogs Horseshoes and Hand Grenades, where Anton had to figure out how to add rational loading logic to these highly irrational weapons lol.
The description for the caber literally states "A sober person would throw it" Demoman is too drunk all of the time to realize the caber isn't supposed to be a melee weapon.
The 2-barrel grenade launcher actually originally did fire 2 grenades, but it was changed in a balance patch on 4 September, 2012. Other TF2 weapons I'd like to see you react to: Sydney Sleeper, Rainblower, Beggar's Bazooka, Loose Cannon, Huo-Long Heater, Showdown.
I want to see him look at the hotdogs horseshoes and hand grenades version of TF2 weapons because they actually made it operate somewhat realistically.
Old revolver reload was amazing, fuck you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111 (especially when it had the speed loader with bullets)
today, we'll see a man launching himself by rockets in point-blank range, slamming a teenager with a shovel, and starts to scream in a patriotic manner
@@yukowolfang8645 and considering that TF2 is a game where it literally breaks multiple war crimes almost every game (Gas Passer is pretty much a chemical weapon, bots are basically an even worse version of torture, and SURPRISE BUTTSECKS), that’s saying something.
the thing is that most of these weapons have somewhat realistic animations it's just that the game has been coded and changed by so many different programmers and developers that it's pretty buggy on top of that currently the game has only one to two developers working on it so if it's not game breaking it will most likely stay like that leading to unfinished looking animations like for the ambassador or the grenade launcher
The animations used to be much smoother and detailed, but as valve has been updating the source engine it's been breaking the animations and graphics. It's why The Ambassador revolver doesn't appear to actually load rounds into the gun. It used to, but it doesn't anymore.
Nah, the Ambassador's animations never included bullets getting loaded in the first place. Yes, the Ambassador's reload animation has been changed. The old animation (where the barrel of the gun moved to cover your crosshair) also moved the bottom of the cylinder to be below the viewport, meaning that it was impossible to see that no bullets were getting loaded. It's just that the updated reload, which now doesn't cover your vision, also doesn't hide the fact that the Ambassador's reload never put bullets in. Only the stock revolver + enforcer ever had animations that involved bullets actually getting put into the cylinders.
It's not because of Source updates. It broke because they changed the whole viewmodel system to a c_model system, away from the v_model system. It's better, because it makes the hands and their animations into one model, rather than them being duplicated in every viewmodel. So there's just one hand model with all the weapon handling animations, and then the weapon model itself is just bonemerged with it, and it works. The trouble is: They also began using one weapon model for both first-person and third-person. Previously, there was a worldmodel (or w_model), and a viewmodel (v_model). But now, there's just one c_model. So they had to remove the subtler details since they'd be unnecessary for third-person. It's entirely fixable -- it's just not worth their time.
@@randomcatdude Yeah that's probably a better technical way of putting it. I don't have extensive knowledge on TF2 or the Source engine, all I really know is the game used to look much more detailed and smooth and Valve's updates to the Source engine has been breaking things. TF2 still has a massive playerbase but it seems Valve just desperately wants to move on from it.
@@targetshades2320 I wouldn't really say so. I think it's more that nobody at Valve really wants to work on TF2 anymore. The game is mostly still working on its own, after all. Even ignoring the poor state of the codebase... the overly demanding community that also constantly insults and makes jokes at the expense of Valve, is probably not helping their morale...
The sniper actually does put another bullet into his rifle. You can’t see it in game, but you can see at the end of meet the sniper that he actually pulls the bolt back and grabs a bullet from his shirt pocket and puts it in before pushing the bolt forward again. All before the ejected bullet casing even hits the ground...
@@claimingagate I haven't played eternal and 2016 is rotting in my steam library so how do the weapons in those games compete with doom and doom II's guns?
@@OutlawedPoet eternal's weapons look almost the same to the classic games with stuff like the plasma rifle , shotgun and super shotgun with a meat hook on the super shotgun for spiderman swinging using enemies, the rocketlauncher reloads using an automatic demonic mechonism and the bolista can charge up shots like a crossbow, there's a lot more about the doom eternal weapons. I just really want to hear his opinion on the BFG
@@OutlawedPoet it still functions basically the same attacking any enemy on screen but now it travels slowly with the longer it traveling meaning the more damage it does making players think about positioning and it shoots out tendrils and can attack any enemy that doesn't have a wall between them and it
Mima is (still not) back That should be the description of the weapon instead, and just a random question: What if they made a drug for soldier similar to how bonk works for scout but glue is the base.
"Here we have a sample of urine collected from an adult male Australian. The diet of the male Australian contains enough acids and heavy metals to actually be corrosive to human skin."
8:13 Well technically, in real life, if you fire a rocket at the ground you will be propelled upwards... as well as every other direction at the same time, you may not survive it... but you will get propelled.
I like this guy's attitude: "It's unrealistic but I here's the real world counterparts, I assume changes were made for the game's aesthetic, balance and performance issues"
![Why [TF2] has (Almost) Perfect Melee Weapons](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/NArb-D-M8aU/mqdefault.jpg)
Next you're gonna tell me that I can't build a sentry gun in real life by hitting it repeatedly with a giant wrench??
Lol
And next after that he's gonna tell me that I can't shapeshift into another person by wearing a paper mask of them??!!!!
I can't make a haunted sword into an even more haunted axe? This is some bullshit
@@somerandomgamer8504 And then next he's gonna tell me that drinking a highly poisonous and irradiated soda doesn't give you invincibility for 8 seconds???///?
Damn
They gave a firearm expert a task to analyze weapons in a game where Abraham Lincoln invented stairs and died trying to rocket jump them
What where did you hear that lmfao
@@nicoanon Pretty sure it's in the comics somewhere, not 100% sure tho.
@@nicoanon the TF2 lore hits different
@@nicoanon Its part of the TF2 lore. ALOT of weird shit happened.
@@Zero001LP I gotta reread them lmfao I only remember Abraham Lincoln being a pyro or smth
"If a tf3 did come out they'd add that touch"
The community: *laugh track*
No No. The Joke Is That While Team Fortress 3 Will Never Materialize. The VR Exclusive Team Fortress Spy Will Release Way Into The Future
maybe with hl3 vr as well
I never want tf3 to come out tf2 is the best
lol
Stop Talking About New Weapons ! Tyler Showing People On The Community Cutting From Game Weapons ! You Guys All Us Need Learn To History ! Not New !
The ullapool caber’s description says “A sober man would throw it”
And it can frag you
*laughs in mute*
@@Gordon.F lol
Holy shit it's Gman
@@Gordon.F holy $hit its Gordon freeman
"This games weapon designs are not realistic"
TF2 Players: Yes
fish
@@antiqueland If you get smacked by a fish that large, you will _eventually_ die. Maybe not after 7 hits, but _eventually_.
Santon hail: gonna be honest just threw a bunch of rockets together and hoped it worked
@@pierrecurie well, you can smack out of living world someone under 7 hits, all you need is Taranka.
Well yes that's true, but the fact that you can die by getting fish slapped 3-6 times is cool and fun either way
"I don't know what the hell is going on there, quite frankly, but it looks like fun."
He's got the right spirit.
when?
He a little confused but he's got the spirit.
4:39
Literally everyone who plays TF2 with 0~10000 hours be like:
@@callmefox630 Wait, what happens when you ascend past 10000 hours of game time?
“What a strange gun” man you just summed up this games entire arsenal.
@ThreeDee mines the sandvich
@ThreeDee the red tape recorder
@@FallinWizard stock medigun
@@thedemoman5421 the wrangler
@Emilio Dimas force of nature
"I'm starting to suspect i'm being trolled..." is my favorite line of this whole video
Same
Not to mention his right
"I'm starting to think I'm being trolled." - Whoever got you to attempt to analyse the realism of the absurdity that is TF2 certainly had that in mind.
This is what he gets for trolling us, in the splatoon review.
And sometime the game is completely aware oh how little sense it can make
“A sober man would throw it”
the people who asked him to react to mass effect and team fortress are stupid
Xdxdxdxd
Gotta play to that algorithm
Just a reminder that Abraham Lincon invented stairs to replace rocket jumping, but lost the blueprints only for them to be rediscovered by Franklin D. Roosevelt.
Soldier is that you??
really?
That is tf2 lore, n'yes
FDR building the first modern stairs... If only that was true, it would be the cruelest irony.
Doubt FDR would have gotten much use of them.
Huge missed opportunity to not show him the sniper rifle that literally shoots piss
@Flyin' Steve sydney sleeper
And the full piss loadout
Sydney pd2:
*heavy breathing*
@Flyin' Steve what do you mean? It’s a jar of lemonade and a yellow snow rifle
It doesn't shoot piss, it shoots piss needles.
Or the fuckin jarate, literally dongle juice ina jar mate haha
The Loch N Load originally had 2 rounds, but when its damage characteristics were changed, it was increased to 3 without a model change.
was looking for this comment ^ same for a few other weapons
@@d4s0n282 Yeah, I feel like journalism really doesn't have any standard when it comes to accurately portraying what they are talking about.
Only fair to let him know the history of the game he's looking at or the reasons for weird inconsistencies.
@@skorpers 100% agree, also I believe in older versions, reloading looked way better
It was better when it was 2 with the extra damage
@@CommentFrom obv, thats why they nerfed it LMAO cus it was op
In TF2 lore, the guy who sells the weapons to the mercenaries cares not about function or reason. He pretty much hot-glues miscellaneous gun parts together and sells them with even stranger hats. It kind of makes sense that these guns defy all known logic of weaponry.
But lets be honest, we all have fun with those guns and we wouldnt want them any other way
@@xstep2955 absolutely.
Name of said character?
@@VincentGonzalezVeg Saxton Hale
he once tried to sell Miss Pauling a twin Force-of-Nature
It’s like if a cop analyses the police from GTA or a bank heister analyses payday
Lol pretty sure someone has done the payday one before
Gamemology
@@kylestallings9684 yep
Both of which have been done of course
Hi heavy
This is like getting a biologist to analyse Tom and Jerry's animal behavior
I can imagine that, but he already expressed that
great analogy!
Do it!
That would be interesting
@@helbramsgibbs3280 aqq
The "Labor of Love" actually sounds like a great name for a Spy weapon.
Or Engineer
b o t h
And since valve is allergic to new weapons we can make it an ambassador reskin
That title is reserved for Scout.
@@duncookie ...Okay, that was funny.
"It reminds me of Quake."
Knowing Team Fortress's history, that's very accurate
well if you think about it tf2 wouldn't exist without doom
also this game Quake gun realy gun freely give who pre purches Quake
gun name is original
@@thecommunistloli1042 if you think about it, tf2 wouldn’t exist without gunpowder
@@bugdracula1662 If you think about it tf2 wouldn't exist without the concept of shooting
Well the original Is originally from a quake offer
"This is a very strange game" is a understatement
POOTIS POW!
@@soulknight5330 MARKET GARDEN and a rocket jumper I guess
Strange? Kiss your money goodbye!
me when I send a monkey into space in order to rid my company of weapons, the possession of which would otherwise put me at risk of senate inquiry
Me trying to uncover cloaked spies by throwing jars of urine: "Just a little strange."
Caber has a cool description saying : "a sober man would have thrown that"
Demonam team fort defense the second
@@bowlofsalad8777 Demolitions Man from the second Team of the Fortress
@@clockworkpotato9892 A male human with advanced knowledge of explosives bestowing upon the sequel to Community of the Defense Structure.
this comment section is getting more and more verbose
@@aunusuallylargecat1779 Brian
The Medic's syringe gun is based on real life syringe guns. The little bulb that the Medic puts into the gun to reload is actually an air canister, implying that there is an infinite supply of syringes, but you have to load more air into the gun to propel them.
so when he runs out of ammo, he only runs out of air??
@@ashleycd6487Don't think too much about it.
It's not an air can, it's actually poison.
This is the same universe where this same man can bring anyone back to life, and fix major injuries in a matter of seconds.
The reload sounds actually kinda makes sense now, since it sounds vaguely similar to putting a new cO2 canister into an airsoft gun and breaking the seal on it.
i like how his mind literally falls apart when he tries to examine the scattergun.
@ThreeDee
This comment made me audibly cackle.
ThreeDee
How about the F I S H.
@@kimberlysawadan2682 How about *T H E H A N D*
Mettawat Kutaninwat
How about a rolled wrapper and christmas tree ball?
@@kimberlysawadan2682 C A N D Y C A N E
I like how he shits on the Loch n Load having three shots, just like the rest of us did when they updated it to be that way XD
The stock grenade launcher has always been an oddity as well. Valve is allergic to making sense lol.
Remember when the Loch N Load actually made sense? 2010-2014
@@Dog-999i member when the game made sense? (This comment brought to you by the 2007-2008 gang)
@@DoitForTheLolz1 no, because it never made sense
nah, it makes sense.
shots are stored in the bottom barrel, and then sent to the top (maybe via a piston or something) and then fired out the top.
it also explains the reload and the top barrel unusual.
“I’m getting quake feels from this gun”
*The original enters the chat
No, this is UA-cam, it can’t have any dicks
@Shangex is this the krusty crab?
@Shangex _STOP POSTING ABOUT AMONGUS-_
@Shangex you kinda sussy amogus moment tbh
@@SonOfAFridge_ exactly, but if that’s BTS on your pic, I can’t agree with you.
In the original design of The Black Box, it was meant to have 4 barrels, but the game devs couldn't get the rockets to shoot out of different points on the rocket launcher, so they fell back to having it be single barrel instead. They also strangely have it only hold 3 rockets, as opposed to the 4 that it should be able to hold, making it one of the few weapons in the game to hold less ammo than it could in real life.
wdym? it was a community made item, and all the concept art only has 1 barrel.
M202 FLASH is the rocket launcher it's based on, which has 4 barrels.
It’s like how the lock n load has two barrels but 3 shots
i think the 3 rockets in the barrel are for balance purposes, they couldn't find another way to make it work
What I said had *absolutely nothing* to do with how many shots the weapon has versus how many barrels it has, and entirely to do with the weapon it was based on. I already made that clear, stop bringing up irrelevant game mechanics.
I love TF2's meta humor. I'd imagine many people who unlock the Ullapool Caber probably try to figure out how to actually throw it, frantically looking for the correct button so they can get back to playing. But you don't. You blow it up in your face by pummeling someone with it, because your character is drunk.
That's what makes TF2 cartoonish.
True Blackjack behavior
thats what i did when i first got it
@@SanguineSeth and that's exactly what it's going for
The Caber was the first weapon I "found" in TF2. I was EXTREMELY confused.
"If a team fortress 3 did come out"
Oh you sweet summer child
You need to go back
Hearing that really felt like an arrow to the knee. :c
Yeah no we skipping straight to TF4
It was 666 likes for a second lol
i audibly cackled when he said that.
I want to see his reaction to a sentry gun.
Like... how can it distinct friends from foes?
@GenerikUser then how does it determine if somethings dead?
Engineer has 11 phd’s, i’m sure engi could figure it out
let along spy's disguise tool, and how teammates only see the mask, and the enemies see the full disguise
Вообще у инжа в пда есть спецальная управляющая матрица которая работает на всеми любимом золотом веществе и посути сентря имеет огромный спект сенсоров , инфакрсный , цветовой , тепловой , но не смотря на это пушка все равно не может обнаружить спая в инвизе или маскировке из-за чего можно сделать вывод того либо у шпика очень хорошее оборудование или сенсоры пушки далеко не идеальны
racism
An interesting part of Pyro using the flare gun as a weapon is that many of their weapons aren't actually weapons. They can equip things such as mailboxes, garden rakes, and fire axes as melee weapons. The flamethrowers are also canonically improvised weapons.
Actually the stock flamethrower (and the rainblower by association) are not improvised, however all the other ones are
Surely, he will only say good things about the tomislav. Surely.
*Narrator voice*: “He didn’t.”
@@flat-seventh *proceeds to speak loving words about the brass beast*
Ive got some bad news for you, Mr. Large Joseph
Truly a sad day, Large Joseph physically hits testicles
S L O W
Watching Jonathan lose his mind trying to make sense of these guns is absolutely hilarious
he'd snap if he found out the flamethrower's alt fire is actually air, not gas
@Robert Seasrs I bet you're a riot at parties.
@Robert Seasrs I believe you disregard the idea that you have just insulted people who play tf2, I mean that was uncalled for.
@Robert Seasrs uhh lad you literally just insulted the TF2 player base. Plus not all weapons are fantasy weapons. Ex the stock pistol, luger, revolver, and several other shotguns such as the force of nature. Also that's part of the game lad the goofiness of the guns adds color to a game that literally uses cartoon graphics.
@Robert Seasrs imagine looking at a cartoony game and expecting realistic physics and logic. You can rocket jump for crying out loud you absolute spastic
Honestly it's a shame the Mythbusters stopped when they did. Would have been hilarious if they tested to see if the physics behind rocket jumping are even possible in real life. Assuming the rocket wouldn't hurt you, could you actually use an explosion like that to ride high into the air?
Massively underrated comment
I mean there's even a Rocket Jumper weapon made specifically for the purpose of not damaging you while rocket jumping
They kinda did with the 1000 lbs. Bomb in the train station. Don't remember how that one panned out but it was a similar concept.
I suppose a large enough rocket exploding at your feet would have some ability to chuck your lifeless corpse several feet into the air.
@@talonus202 I remember. It was a bit disappointing actually because the system they had for dropping Buster onto the mock train station failed and he fell way off target, but they declared it busted anyway because of the sheer amount of flying debris that would have absolutely killed him (including an iron bar completely wrapped around a tree branch).
"If they make a team fortress 3 they will have to animate the hammer"
Clearly Jonathan is unaware of Valve's counting disability and the tf2 community's lack of care for logic
I’m surprised he didn’t have an aneurysm after seeing Scout’s Scattergun.
I love how you can tell he’s an old gamer by him saying “frags” instead of kills. Loving this series and this gentleman.
Are the kids not saying that anymore? :)
Well, when talking about explosive weapons, generally fragmentation is the main lethal force. That said, given he references quake alot, he's definitely old school
@@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries died out once the MLG era died with it, ever since H1Z1 and the rise of PUBG people have called it kills
@@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries To be honest, while it’s not as common anymore I still hear it. I’ve heard it a ton in CS:GO, weirdly enough considering that it’s one of the furthest games from Quake (granted, I play a lot of both so maybe it’s not as odd as I thought).
wdym in my r6 days "top fragger" is the term for the guy who pushes
If they showed him everything, I imagine scenes of a scout and demo beating each other with a fish and a frying pan while an engie plays banjo in the background, will bless his dreams
i think ya ust inveted friendly 2fort server
This man is not just a firearms expert, he also knows his video games. I was impressed that he noticed the similarities to Quake, which is very accurate, considering that the original Team Fortress was just a Quake mod for Counter Strike.
quake is one of the earliest movement shooters, and probably, except for halo or tf2 nowadays, the most well known
almost correct but not a quake mod for counterstrike. it was originally a mod for Quake, then valve hired the team that made the mod and wanted them to port it to half life 1's engine.
He probably played Quake when was young.
Source engine actually still has Quake code in it
"I don't know what the hell is going on but it looks like fun"
Yeah this guy get's it
This is literally tf2 in a nutshell
"And yes I am overthinking this."
And that's what exactly we're asking for.
3:29 Jonathan using the word "Frag" for killing someone is such Quake-era language. I love it, it's like counting rings on a tree!
"a sober man would throw it"
-the caber's description
How about a drugged person ❓
Tf2: gets increased publicity on yt
Valve on social media:💤💤
did i hear a request for a portal 2 patch?
Valve just hits different
Dude, it’s not like TF2 is an obscure game or anything, it’s always been in the top 10 most played games on steam
@@tunners yeah, but valve never publicly talk about updates
Oh god, I hope Jonathan can handle the absurdity of these guns...
О, Пис, привет!
Just watching the H3VR meat fortress series has shown the absolutely confusing functions of the guns.
THE FISHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@Soldier [TF2] Yeah.
Здаров, Пис.
It's nice to see TF2 from a time where you don't get killed by a sniper bot the second you step outside your base
@@Suspicious-Carl it looks like old clips, cuse there's no ammo boxes on the ground, and they're picking up ammo from the gun scrap.
@@CallofDutyBlackOps28 And thats completely wrong since there are multiple ammo boxes being dropped from dead players. There is probably a few clips with guns being picked up, but the ammo boxes stand out much more.
@@ThatTonnatoTenrec "if you looked at this bit you can clearly see this stuff" Nuff to say.
"It would 'frag' him too"
Now that's a word I haven't heard for a very long time...
The best joke was when he said “if a Team Fortress 3 came out”
I do not think he knows that Valve cannot count to 3 unless is a very specific grenade launcher.
@@Lam3ch777 go on, what Launcher?
The loch ‘n load
@@pormpfspimperton6804 oh.
I thought it was name of something.
Wait a second, doesn't the Black Box fire 3 shots too?
@@Phycorax Yes, the Black Box fires three rockets... despite being based on a real-world four-barrel launcher.
This is the Equivalent of Sir David Attenborough analysing the animal behaviour of a Road Runner cartoon.
Based
It really, is...
I'd like to see sir David Attenborough do that.
Great comparison
"I'm getting real Quake/Quake 2 vibes from that rocket launcher." Who wants to tell him?
All these Quake statements and they didn’t even show him the Original. Wasted chance
@@bot7070 or the classic
Pain-is Launcher
painis
Just imagine his reaction to Aperture Science's weapons. They fire the whole bullet. That's 65% more bullet per bullet!
On the Caber: It actually DOES frag the user, that's the joke.
Afterall the description reads: "A sober person would throw it."
Doesn’t frag mean kill in games?
@@sud1881 Ye. It doesn't do enough to instant kill the user and often not the (other) victim either, but it can kill the user if their hp is low enough
@@shrimpchris6580 it used to
@@sud1881 Yes it does, I used "frag" instead of "kill" because that was the word used in the video.
Yep -- the _explosion_ hits the user, but it won't kill anyone on full health without the damage from the melee hit.
Jonathan: "If Team Fortress 3 comes out."
Gaben: We don't do that here.
Team fortress 2 episode 2
yep just like half-life 3
*close the book* like it's going to append
blizzard: fine, I'll do it myself
also blizzard: I'll fucking do it again
“If we do get a TF3”
That’ll happen during the next singularity
I pray eveyryday to Valve just so that they would make a TF3 . If a tf3 never happens I will die a depressed , sad man .
@@dudewithmittens3004 Problem is, Valve can't count to 3. We're at Portal 2, Team Fortress 2, Half-Life 2 (If you don't count Alyx), and we don't even have Steam 2, just Steam Classic for downloading games online.
3 is an unlucky number in valve
Anygame with a 3 in it.
Valve: Wait, that's illegal
Valve revealing the next game: 1... 2... 2...
I suspect what is reloaded to the Syringe Gun is some sort of compressed air or pneumatic component to fuel the ejection of the needles, and that due to the size of the needles, the drum can hold the full 150 maximum capacity of syringe rounds that these guns typically carry without needing to be changed too often.
"Today we're going to examine a pirate ship's wheel that magically makes the user charge at an unbelievable speed, all while highlighting their silhouette"
And causing x1.35 damage
And beeing able to make him fly if he charges at stairs, but only some stairs
8:22 “A Bugs Bunny-level understanding of physics”
I’m going to have to remember that, it was hilarious.
but like, that's a perfect description of how tf2 works. it's looney tunes but the game... and with less anthropromorphic animals.
@@Arkantolas oh, I agree completely.
"if a team fortress 3 came out"
gentlemen, synchronize your death watches.
and proceed to take them off cause its never gonna fucking happen.
The only thing that maybe could happen is an "team fortress alyx"
@@compeas Good one.
@@compeas Team Fortress 2 Episode 1 and Episode 2 soon coming to The Orange Box 2 Along with Half Life Alyx and Portal Alyx, *three* great games, one package.
"awkward cough"
@@mark030a Half-Life 3 confirmed.
@@rdgrdmedflde4710 It'll take more than half my life for it to come out though.
5:01 I think the point of the weapon is that it's supposed to be strange. To me, because of the name, it has that theme of "I know it's weird, but I got it half off at the shop, so I'm going to use it."
"Yes I am overthinking this"
Isn't that exactly why we're watching? To watch a guy comedically overanalyze the realism of a distinctly not realistic game?
even if it isnt realistic its still fun as hell
@@ardayoruk9724 Nobody said otherwise?
@@TheGrumbliestPuppy I don’t believe he said anybody said otherwise :) he simply stated an opinion that related to this comment
@@itssouthbranch7949 Finally, someone who can respect another giving their opinions.
*Finally, a man of class.*
@@SliceJosiah if only it wasn’t class and just normal for people to think this way 😂
Ullapool Caber's flavor text: "a sober man would throw it"
too bad, as for its user is almost always drunk
"I'M DRUNK, YOU DON'T HAVE AN EXCUSE"
"I don't know what the hells going on there, but it looks like fun" perfectly describes every single gun in the game lmao
that's what I would say after a demopan charged and killed me... then starts a conga, everyone joins and then they use the kill bind
I love how he actually pays attention to and observes the tiny details like the amount of damage done per shot that others wouldn't notice, it gives him a better understanding and shows he actually cares about learning more
I love how the entire TF2 community collectively comes out of the woodworks to appear on a relavant video
the tf2 community is like some secret society. mostly silent, but always there
@@cornonthekobi I must say that is a beautiful pfp.
Oh no not this man is a member of the gun gang
@@TheRealMonkeyMan65 all day
@@cornonthekobi this comment made me laugh so hard, ty
"Somehow the ullapool caber doesn't frag you, it only frags them."
**inhales** WELL...
Sir i love your pfp
It used to, sadly it doesn't anymore.
@@clichenachos3109 Hey thanks! You should see my banner.
Its like shrödinger's cat, on hit, both of ye and the person ye hit are placed in a box in which there is 50/50 chance that yee die, you can imagine this as either the caber explodes in the box and frags yer every single atom or it just blows putting some shrapnels in yee little body. Now many people connected caber explosions to ye lord Gaben, but as ye can see I don't. (although random crits are totes under Gaben's control)
@@Crit-Chance
That's epic lol, "the D. Mon."
“Wow... This is a very strange game.”
You. Have. No idea.
316 likes with no comment wtf
@@ii0000 I had no idea this comment had so many likes until I was notified about your comment just now. Thanks!
Wait till he hears about the damageless rocket jumper.
I’m 100% sure I I is a bot
@@gage2189 Well that's creepy.
Would love to see his reacting to the revised versions of the TF2 guns in Hotdogs Horseshoes and Hand Grenades, where Anton had to figure out how to add rational loading logic to these highly irrational weapons lol.
The ullapool caber
“a sober man would throw it”
Meanwhile: The Bad Batch would probably do the same but with Thermal Detonators.
Stop Talking About New Weapons ! Tyler Showing People On The Community Cutting From Game Weapons ! You Guys All Us Need Learn To History ! Not New !
@@C.A._Old Godzilla had a stroke trying to read this and fucking died
The description for the caber literally states "A sober person would throw it" Demoman is too drunk all of the time to realize the caber isn't supposed to be a melee weapon.
He kept bring up quake and they didn't show him "The Original" for shame
I was thinking the same thing!
I'd like to see his reaction to the original, sniper rifle, and clasdic
What about the beggars bazzoka
@@thomaswang2223 "w-what is this? a rocket launcher made of cans?"
Probably because it's nsfw
@@YurieSnowie don’t forget the one that does no damage
The 2-barrel grenade launcher actually originally did fire 2 grenades, but it was changed in a balance patch on 4 September, 2012. Other TF2 weapons I'd like to see you react to: Sydney Sleeper, Rainblower, Beggar's Bazooka, Loose Cannon, Huo-Long Heater, Showdown.
"Cabers are meant to be tossed"
actually, the description of the weapon states: "A smart person would toss this"
"A sober person would throw it"
“A sober man would just toss it”
"im drunk"
"xburpx"
"I'm drunk! You don't have an excuse!"
Nobody going to talk about how many friendlies were slaughtered for that Tomislav footage
The horrors of what would happen if you give guns to clowns in a war.
What we do? Kill em back =)
@@NotArles lack of training leads to unneficiency, you guys cant fight back lol
@@cralo2569 no i mean in tf2
"No russian"
I want to see him look at the hotdogs horseshoes and hand grenades version of TF2 weapons because they actually made it operate somewhat realistically.
He needs to do more H3VR videos. This would be a good one
He also needs to actually get a VR headset. Would be cool.
yes! i agreed
@@jacojerb what’s that
@@Geck_Gxng H3VR is the official abbreviation for Hot Dogs, Horseshoes and Hand Grenades, a somewhat realistic gun simulator in VR
He already has.
"Life changing injuries" is a wonderfully nice way to put what would happen to you. Gave me a good chuckle.
I instantly trusted this guy the second he said "frag" instead of "kill"
What would the difference be? Honest question
@@tyrantking2322 In Quake was Frag instead of kill
@@tyrantking2322 "frag" is a term old school gamers use.
You can tell he used to play some QUAKE deathmatch back in the day. My kind of guy!
@@tyrantking2322 one is a job and the others mental sickness
Watching John question his life decisions looking at the bonkers gun logic of TF2 is actually kinda hilarious
He shot friendlies to test Tomislav. What a monster.
Absolutely Barbaric!
Extremely devilish
He is going straight to hell for that
PFFT, perfect target practice.
@@mercenarygundam1487 **awkward silence**
10:37 A Sci-fi gun is more realistic than the most of the arsenal of TF2.
If he didn't like that Ambassador reload, he would've had a stroke if he'd seen the old one where you just smack yourself in the face with it lol
Wait what?
Or the dead ringer reload where you get 3 arms
@@BananaHoovyJ.Rabbit
Old Amby reload has the gun brought up to the player's face very close, at an upward angle.
Old revolver reload was amazing, fuck you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111 (especially when it had the speed loader with bullets)
@@unr34L- uh...ok?
today, we'll see a man launching himself by rockets in point-blank range, slamming a teenager with a shovel, and starts to scream in a patriotic manner
Lv. 100 American
scout is 20
@@HAARGLaga 23 to be exact
*(insert Heavy laugh)*
@@curtisleblanc5897 *Soviet laugh
Damn that first clip is brutal, killing a bunch of frendlies on 2fort lmao.
d i s g u s t i n g
They've commited a war crime
@@yukowolfang8645 and considering that TF2 is a game where it literally breaks multiple war crimes almost every game (Gas Passer is pretty much a chemical weapon, bots are basically an even worse version of torture, and SURPRISE BUTTSECKS), that’s saying something.
@@nickkayfabe6147 I don’t think the Geneva conventions apply to mercenaries the same way as it does to conventional militaries
@@nickkayfabe6147 bots aren’t “torture” they just break the Geneva convention
the thing is that most of these weapons have somewhat realistic animations it's just that the game has been coded and changed by so many different programmers and developers that it's pretty buggy on top of that currently the game has only one to two developers working on it so if it's not game breaking it will most likely stay like that leading to unfinished looking animations like for the ambassador or the grenade launcher
The animations used to be much smoother and detailed, but as valve has been updating the source engine it's been breaking the animations and graphics.
It's why The Ambassador revolver doesn't appear to actually load rounds into the gun. It used to, but it doesn't anymore.
Nah, the Ambassador's animations never included bullets getting loaded in the first place.
Yes, the Ambassador's reload animation has been changed. The old animation (where the barrel of the gun moved to cover your crosshair) also moved the bottom of the cylinder to be below the viewport, meaning that it was impossible to see that no bullets were getting loaded. It's just that the updated reload, which now doesn't cover your vision, also doesn't hide the fact that the Ambassador's reload never put bullets in.
Only the stock revolver + enforcer ever had animations that involved bullets actually getting put into the cylinders.
It's not because of Source updates.
It broke because they changed the whole viewmodel system to a c_model system, away from the v_model system.
It's better, because it makes the hands and their animations into one model, rather than them being duplicated in every viewmodel. So there's just one hand model with all the weapon handling animations, and then the weapon model itself is just bonemerged with it, and it works.
The trouble is: They also began using one weapon model for both first-person and third-person. Previously, there was a worldmodel (or w_model), and a viewmodel (v_model). But now, there's just one c_model. So they had to remove the subtler details since they'd be unnecessary for third-person.
It's entirely fixable -- it's just not worth their time.
@@randomcatdude Yeah that's probably a better technical way of putting it. I don't have extensive knowledge on TF2 or the Source engine, all I really know is the game used to look much more detailed and smooth and Valve's updates to the Source engine has been breaking things. TF2 still has a massive playerbase but it seems Valve just desperately wants to move on from it.
@@targetshades2320 I wouldn't really say so. I think it's more that nobody at Valve really wants to work on TF2 anymore. The game is mostly still working on its own, after all.
Even ignoring the poor state of the codebase... the overly demanding community that also constantly insults and makes jokes at the expense of Valve, is probably not helping their morale...
very informative, thanks :-)
The sniper actually does put another bullet into his rifle. You can’t see it in game, but you can see at the end of meet the sniper that he actually pulls the bolt back and grabs a bullet from his shirt pocket and puts it in before pushing the bolt forward again. All before the ejected bullet casing even hits the ground...
He is a professional with standards
And scout is a magician
@@imnotaracistokay Laughs In Dead
@@imnotaracistokay *And* hes a gift from God to all women, TF2 lore is weird.
But here’s the thing, looking at the bolt, there’s no opening, he shoves the bullet through the metal somehow
He talks about Quake's rocket launcher when it's actually in this game, it's called The Original.
We need him to look at the doom weapons
@@claimingagate I haven't played eternal and 2016 is rotting in my steam library so how do the weapons in those games compete with doom and doom II's guns?
@@OutlawedPoet eternal's weapons look almost the same to the classic games with stuff like the plasma rifle , shotgun and super shotgun with a meat hook on the super shotgun for spiderman swinging using enemies, the rocketlauncher reloads using an automatic demonic mechonism and the bolista can charge up shots like a crossbow, there's a lot more about the doom eternal weapons. I just really want to hear his opinion on the BFG
@@claimingagate the BFG is the same, right? I would love to hear his opinions on that beauty. thanks for the info
@@OutlawedPoet it still functions basically the same attacking any enemy on screen but now it travels slowly with the longer it traveling meaning the more damage it does making players think about positioning and it shoots out tendrils and can attack any enemy that doesn't have a wall between them and it
This mans take made me realize even more just how odd my favorite FPS game is, I couldn't be more proud of the crazy world of TF.
Gamespot: "The rocket jumping seems to work on Bugs Bunny logic."
Me: *waiting in anticipation for him to look over the Beggar's Bazooka.
that glue smells fricking amazing!
an orange bearded mann
Mima is (still not) back
How many hours did he spend sniffing on the glue?
@@kimberlysawadan2682 dunno man, all I can tell is, beggar bazooka increase skill in glue sniffing
Mima is (still not) back
That should be the description of the weapon instead, and just a random question:
What if they made a drug for soldier similar to how bonk works for scout but glue is the base.
can you imagine if they showed him the jarate jar and then it cuts to him with a mason jar of clear yellow liquid.
a review of different kinds of piss in games
“We’ve had this in the collection for a good few years now”
@@keatonlivesvrc "We don't know who made it, it just showed up in one of our bathrooms one day so we decided to display it."
"Here we have a sample of urine collected from an adult male Australian. The diet of the male Australian contains enough acids and heavy metals to actually be corrosive to human skin."
8:13 Well technically, in real life, if you fire a rocket at the ground you will be propelled upwards... as well as every other direction at the same time, you may not survive it... but you will get propelled.
[sees syringe gun]
"This is sort of a left-field weapon"
Scout: [laughs in Holy Mackerel]
smack!
To be honest at least the Macarena has realistic physics! Killing someone with a fish does take a while
@@darkos1012 macarena
@@darkos1012 It's Macaroni.
@@Spartan375X no its marinara
Ah yes, my favorite TF2 character: "The Flamethrower Class".
@ThreeDee my favorite is gotta be P I S S
@@obiwankenobi8494 Jarrett!!
@@obiwankenobi8494 i am a P I S S M A I N
@@mikadosannoji553 i cant talk right now im makin P I S S *three days grace plays*
@PoweringIndecision Professional cosplayer? More like Professional weeb
I like this guy's attitude:
"It's unrealistic but I here's the real world counterparts, I assume changes were made for the game's aesthetic, balance and performance issues"
The Loch-n-Load originally only fired 2 rounds.
I love how the clip of the tomislav is just a heavy killing a bunch of friendlies
that heavy at the end looked so disapointed xd
I can't believe they would do this
@@-YELDAH "No!"-Hoovy 2021
Next video: Psychology Expert analyses TF2's chat.
There will be like 5 psychologists
Good luck.
Next video: therapists react to tf2 voice chat
@Aquarium Gravel and they will need psychologist to get over it.
vaporeon
We're getting dangerously close to showing him the M4 from CounterStrike and watching him have a meltdown on air when he sees the reload
Ah the ol' forward assist charging handle
Wait till he sees the bullet pattern of every single gun
And the fact that it can't instakill with headshot from 5 cm
I appreciate how this guy doesn't pretend to know everything, and is open to people correcting him.
its a shame, the genius level engineering of MANco was lost on him.
It goes with a double N
its a shame, the genius of the MannCo naming conventions was lost on him
Weapon expert cries after being informed about jarate
...mad milk
...Sandvich
Wrap assassin
Bonk! Atomic punch...
...Gas Passer
“There’s not a lot of realism...”
Me Playing TF2 for Years: Yesn’t
If I applied to the army I would only use tf2 stylised weapons
@@Aspilm249 so were basically the same in a sense we only will you weapons we want even if it's stupid
@@questionfor9502 wat?!?
11:53 believe it or not, that detail was present in earlier versions of tf2, but they removed it for some reason
Its for the 0.03 fps improvement
"The Ambassador is a labor of love"
With the engraving, yes.
Love for scout's mom.
But engravings give you no tactical advantage whatsoever
@@chu-do can't blame them, though, the shooting's pretty good
Description of the Ullapool caber: "A sober person would throw this"
I did hope that they would of mentioned that in the vid.