Overall I am very happy with the Printer. Its the first i can say that will give Bambu and run! I have literally, every creality printer. None are in my farm. They just havent been at the qualtiy level i need for our brand. Now, things have changed. The printer is a close to production version. The Firrmare is getting updated and new features are being added. I just got FLOW calibration and PA calibtration. I am currently testing what is the difference between each and how it impacts our prints. The pain is the fact that after the last update I have had to recalibrate all my profiles. There are surely changes in the firmware that impacted the print. Now the prints are not bad but I had gaps in my top layer. I like smooth top layers no ironing. This printer is a solid yes! I am wating to see what Bambu will have next year. but if you want a large printer this is it. I can print 4 parts per tray on the bambu, I can print 9 parts at time. Love it 🔥Get them here: techreviewslink.com/K2PLUSS Polymaker Filament techreviewslink.com/Polymaker
I'm really excited to see so many multicolor 3D printers hitting the market in 2024! It's awesome to have more options for multicolor printing. However, the prices are pretty steep, so I'll need to consider my actual needs and maybe wait six months to see if they’re worth the investment. If these printers are mainly targeted at farm operators, how do they stack up against the FLSUN S1 Pro? Can they handle fast, batch printing efficiently? Maybe one day they’ll become a part of my workflow.
I have the s1 pro in test right now. The s1 pro is about 20 min faster in every print I have made. It's crazy fast. It's also much quieter than the last model. I am working with flsun on quality. The prints I am getting are not to my farm standards. But to be fair, it's a pre production unit. Firmware, software changes are taking place now. I have been working with them on top layer finish. They got dimension accuracy down.
Thank you so much for doing reviews based on the ability to make technical products. I would love to see tests with parts that have to be bolted, pressed, work as joints... as well. Engineering stuff. The Bambulab X1C is fantastic, but like you I really need a larger build size - not so much Z height and really just the ability make long parts, so I would be very happy with a double/tripple wide version, as opposed to all the ones that work on cubic, as I really need to be able to make longer parts. What form factor would be best for someone like you? I would hand over the money right away if they came with a X2C
Because with all the problems that we had with the K1 series, I don't trust it. It looks quite large, which is very appealing to me. I wouldn’t choose it for multi-color printing, as my A1 setup meets my needs. By the end of November, I'll be deciding between the K2plus and the FLsun S1pro.
I just got into 3D printing last year with an Ender KE. I recently got the Bambu X1C with 4 AMS and its amazing. But i need a larger bed now to do larger items...so I just put in an order for the K2+ and two CFS units.. Hope i wont be disappointed
Bambu are going to have to think carefully about price on their big printer when it arrives next year, you will always get the people who will buy bambu regardless of the price but this printer really impresses me and will get my money eventually.
@@scarfa21every 3d printer is a stolen design. people find what works with physics and others copy to keep up. its about innovation , and bambu brought tons of extra innovation to the table with stuff like the AMS.
And did they improve quality control? Because with all the problems that we had with the K1 series, I don't trust it. To buy a machine as expensive as this one, I would wait at least 6 months to start seeing all the problems first.
I have been very happy with mine. I will say its a work in progress. For example I have not had the Flow Calibration and PA feature until now. With the last release I am testing this.but the prints are solid. Better than the K1, K1C, K1Max
you must of got the first round of k1 i am a die hard bambu guy own 14 bambu a1s and p1s mixed and i got a k1 to test last month and it is sick no issues think it is better in some ways then bambu. alot of early k1s had issues
I have needed a large format printer for a while now, several items I have designs for need to be cut because they are about 325mm. So far that rules out single print for me. I could borrow the local school's Ender 5 Plus to do the print on, but that's a PITA and I need to schedule time with the classes that use it. I heard Bambu was rumored to have a large format printer in the works for later in 2024 (but here we are in Mid-November and radio silence), but this? I mean, the quality looks to be there. 350C nozzle temp, heated chamber, hardened steel nozzle....and it should be available at my local MicroCenter soon? Yea...I may be skipping the wait on the Bambu Labs and getting this. Creality does 100% scare me, I've got 2 of their printers and I got 2 unicorns (I've never had issues as many others have), but I do know Creality can be a nightmare to deal with, and their printers can/do have issues. This though makes it look like Creality may have done some serious work to get a high quality printer out to market, and that bed size? That could just seal the deal!
Hi, there’s Creality Print v 5.1.6 out now, I’m getting much better prints now that I’ve done some calculations, my surface finish is smooth and the first layer surface is smooth, not that I had a problem in the first place. Because of the issues in C/Print 5.0 I went back to v4; I now use C/Print 5.1.6 which was released a few weeks ago now. I still have a slight cobweb stringing which I’m sure there’s a setting to adjust which should eliminate this. Also, I have a K1 using the smooth heat bed which I have the bed heat at 60c, I’ve only been 3D printing for nearly 12 months, but had been looking at 3D printers for about 5 years. Great video and interesting. Take care. Regards Gary
Hey this looks like a great printer. Coming from the Voron and Bambu world i think your first layer issues are z-offset issues most likely. Its a common issue with printers like the Sovol SV08. That screen looks very locked down even though it runs klipper. I would so a Z-offset calibration if it has one. You can use the Web UI to log in to the printer and do z-offset calibrate if your screen does not let you.
If it’s like the k1 you can do it in the slicer or on the machine itself. If like the K1 > Settings > Expert Mode > Z Offset. You can change it on the fly and then make it permanent in software.
Great video, very thorough! Thanks for sharing your experience and the pros/cons. Seems like the K2 Plus is a winner, if you are willing to compromise on some teething pains
I've watched all the reviews launched today. Yours is the best BY FAR. You clearly LOVE printing, you probably racked up more hours of printing on the K2 Plus over anyone else. You kept this thing working 24/7
I am about to buy my first ever 3D printer. The Prusa Mk4s was my top contender, but with the excessive cost of shipping, that is having me rethink. I was starting to settle on the BAMBU X1 Carbon, until I heard of this printer. Now I am not so sure.
Creality did a long long time and a lot of homework to bring a printer like this after the k1,k1c,k1max ender3 v3 the k2plus and the CFS are top now the best part will be the (CFS kit) nice video
If you're only printing fairly low temp materials like PLA, throw some of Slice Engineering's plastic repellent paint (PTFE nanosuspension) on your nozzle. The only drawback I see is that it's only rated for 290C.
I think one problem with the bambu x1 is lighting and the camera , but if bambu didn't bring out the x1 , creality would still be selling slow bed slingers . I think bambu did push the 3d market alone, but will have to see if bambu innovates or will they be happy with their share of the market.
So I’m Starting a Print farm in an area that’s more rural but has a lot of manufacturing other businesses. Some of the businesses have printers but a lot of them don’t use them. I currently have a Bambu P1S and I stopped buying printers because several brands released bigger or better designed printers. My question is would you recommend the K2 or any other printer over the Bambu printers?
What was your deal with Creality for this video? I just don't trust them after having two Ender 3s... Hopefully I'm wrong and this is something I can buy at some point
The problem with ender 3’s was they were already classified by many as tinker printers for their price. I own one moded to the teeth. I cannot complain because I know what I was getting into when I purchased it.
I think what they were saying is that in multi-color printing, a very low layer height can look like the colors are blending together, which is a possibility for all multi-color machines, including those from Bambu.
A couple of things I'd like to see is times for the following; 1). From getting a job, what's the time until it begins to print? 2). In the case of Multi colour, what is the time it takes to do a filament change and return to printing. My XL 5TH takes almost 9 minutes to start which seems an eternity compared to the others. But the filament change is 5 seconds compared to Bambu's almost 30 seconds. This is where it kills the single toollheads for print speed. Single colours mostly my 5M Pro will knock the job over quickest or if it's busy, the Bambu. But Muti colour the lack of waste and the speed it will always be the XL.
I have a Prus XL. Frankly I have had so many issues that I have given up on it. Its off on the corner. Big waste of 3k. I will look at start times today. I cant compare it to my prusa xl because is dead for now I have a two print head version and both have heat block issues.
@@MekazaBitrusty nope. I have been doing reviews on UA-cam for over 10 years. Over 80 million views. Never have nor never will sign a contract that requires preview or approval. I actually turn down many who do. I have been a user of creality for a very long time and have had every printer they have created. Frankly they are OK not great. Bambu crushed it when it first came out. I also have prusa. Do you see prusa here on my channel? My prusa xl is off in the corner collecting dust. It's is a horrible machine. But many will not say that. This is genuinely a great machine. It worked to my surprise and worked well. Now I am testing two other printers large that I am on email daily with the maker. High potential but poor execution. That has not been the case with the k2 plus. It's a solid machine
It looked like your layer was failing to stick on right front side on CF item printing in last minute of video? I do love the gold PEI built plates best...Nice looking machine, loving what has been released in printers in recent year or two. Waiting to see Bambu latest and greatest release. Right now very happy with my Q1 pro and Plus4(they fixed heater chamber issue on units going out and for early release 115V stuff) from Qidi, at $799 the Plus4 with 305mm plate does fine job. Will be waiting til sometime in 2025 before I choose larger than my 305mm machine(hope to see greater than 350mm footprint at least say a 375-400 on Z, but will go with a multi color or multi tool setup. Time will tell. I am curious to see how the AMS unit for my QIDI works out once released. Sure seems like the whole RFID tag thing is becoming popular. They should create stick on labels for other brands one can setup for RFID...... Thanks for the great review and excellent job highlighting those fantastic details, great job! Outstanding work! Love you print farm! The mask in Creality machine looks great, what is that Ant man or something like that, I don't really keep up on all the movie stuff going on.
The print in carbon fiber when you are talking about the noise levels at the end of the video. The first layer isn't adhering and the print is failing.
Thanks for the review. Can you provide some advice to someone looking to pick up work for clients doing production parts. I am quite comfortable with the CAD software I use as well. I guess I’m mostly wondering how you market yourself to get this kind of works. Thanks!
which one would you recommend in an office for people that are not very used to 3d printing? We want a printer that doesn't require a lot from the user but delivers good quality. We will use the printer for both concept and presentation models. Thanks for the good content!
Thank you für your Work and this video. I´m coming from a Creality Ender3 S1 Pro and was on the way to switch over to am Bambu X1C. They will come in 2025 with new( i think bigger) printers. I think, i´ll wait for problems, that may be will come up withe the new K2 Plus in the next Month (like the Qidi) and what Bambu is going to show up.
I recently bought a K1 Max. I think I should have waited to get the K2 instead. Oh well. I'll get one down the road a bit. I still have and use my original, first generation Ender 3 that I bought at least ten years ago. I've done a lot of upgrades to it, though most were not necessary. I just like to tinker.
Appreciate the review, but I have many concerns with this machine. Especially around multi-color... the example you showed is, we'll call it, a single layer. The benchy wouldn't count either as it just changes color completely at a certain layer. How does the machine do with true multi-color prints? Also, based on what I'm seeing from other videos, I'm seeing and hearing: 1) Difficulties with jams 2) TERRIBLE prints 3) TERRIBLE layer lines 4) Unable to use silk PLA in the CFS 5) Too tightly rewinding filament in the CFS 6) Issues with cardboard spools 7) A lot of Z-wobble 8) A very noisy CFS 9) Issus with power failure recovery 10) Issues with color shifts 11) Not being able to print multi-color below .2 mm Have you experienced or can you speak to any of these? I have one on pre-order and I'm experiencing a certain level of anxiety that it's going to be a nightmare, poor quality prints, and a waste of money. I'm getting stellar prints from my A1/AMS lite combo and was really hoping that this was going to be an issue free machine with high quality prints rivaling the A1 & X1 out of the box. It doesn't sound like it so far. Maybe you or others here can ease my mind a bit, or confirm my reservations. Thanks again!
No to all except 11. I have not done. Multicolor below..2.its been very stable. I had one jam in the cfs because the spool was too wide. It was a plastic wide spool. But jam cleared easy with release button under cfs. I have 2 a1 and the rest of my farm is p1s and x1c. I can't say that this is 100% at the same level as the firmware is getting updated and features are being opened. For example PA and flow testing just became availble. That said, I can tell that the ai works. I see differences in prints where PA and flow have been calibrated. All in all it's been a great experience. This is not common for creality
From looking at things and thinking about it; im starting to feel like some farms don't actually make money from their printers. But from social media coverage instead. I've met a wide variety of regular people and small businesses ownes, and sometimes we talk about 3d printers. I cannot say a single one has purchased a printed product. So im wondering where are all these supposed customers? (Aside from the laser jigs mentioned, of course. Those are a little different.)
I like the k2 but very hesitate my first and current printer is the ender 5 plus and its nothing but a headache. Theres basically no support they cant even release a proper firmware update
I appreciate this but I have been finding there is an inherent lack of information on these new printers and how well they work with different materials. For example, most of these high speed printers completely lack in the department of 95 A TPU/TPE. I see 0 info on any of this stuff. I am growing a little irritated with it because I feel like these machines are completely ignoring it. For instance, the Bambu printers knot the ever living heck out 95. Some other printers like the Prusa mk4 are a different beast all together making a great machine for flexibles.
My small business prints all of our products in TPU and some are tall with a thin wall, so bed slinger designs cause the part to move as it's printing. Even on a coreXY printer where the XY gantry moves on top and the part only moves slowly in the Z axis, TPU flow characteristics don't allow high speed printing. I'm mostly interested in the newer printers for input shaping and more precise motion control hardware for better print quality, for a larger bed that allows more parts to be printed in a single print job, and more refined hardware that is more reliable. The latter is not yet proven for the K2 Plus, and Creality's history makes me wonder, but I'm liking what I'm seeing so far. They seem to have upped their game with the K2 Plus. I think I'd be able to pull the glass top off the K2 Plus and feed TPU directly into the extruder from an overhead bearing hub reel, eliminating the long reverse Bowden tube. For a future product, I'd love to be able to print ABS and TPU together in a single part. This would require a heated chamber and probably a directly fed extruder for the TPU. Bambu now has a TPU that works in their AMS. Presumably it's a higher durometer, and presumably it'd also work in the Creality K2 Plus with a CFS. Possibly my best hope is a Sovol SV08 with an enclosure, either passively heat the chamber or add my own thermostatically controlled chamber heater, and implement a swappable print head that the Sovol/Voron community has developed. If that could be made to be reliable, the added advantages would be much less filament waste when changing filaments and faster filament swaps. My product is ABS on the bottom and TPU on the top, so it would only need the filament swap for a few mm in the middle.
@@Liberty4Ever Normal 85 TPU works fine in the printer. I dont really know what you were trying to get at here, but being concerned about the other features you said... all of those are written on the box before sale. The concern with things like 95 A is that these machines simply dont have a decent, small clearance between the extruder and the hotend. I can run TPE/TPU 95A an minimum speeds and it will still just stretch it. Then I can go over to my sprite hotend on an ender 3 and it works every time. Bambu just stretches the filament instantly. 85A isnt really a problem as its stiff enough not to stretch.
@@WhatsTheWordBozo - Shore 95A is a higher durometer than 85A. 95A stretches less than 85A, not more. The lower the durometer, the more difficult it is to feed and print.
Please make direct comparison video between the two! 2 same printed cubs with same filament and speed, 2 same multicolor samples with same filaments, noise comparison, feeder comparison and etc! This video not give us the needed info! We all know the build volume differences!!
Creality once again sending reviewers perfect pre tested machines and sending crap to consumers. Consumers who bought this have such high percentage of problems its worrisome going through their facebook pages. Once again shady practices by Creality.
So when this printer was announced, several content creators reported that the CFS system would be compatible with the latest gen Creality printers. none of the current creators reviewing this machine are saying anything about this. Sounds like a content embargo. Creality change their minds?
i was watching a live stream earlier from the official Creality account and someone asked about this. The guy said they are still working on it and should announce a date soon that it would be backwards compatible.
Maybe the Kit involves sending in your k1(max) and receive a k2plus. Jokes asside it would be interesting to see how they manage to build this kit. i mean changing the toolhead wouldnt be a big problem but there is also the question where the poop goes, ...
So the software on the K2 lacks. You lost my respect when you claimed the Bambu must be disassembled if it has a filament jam. I expected more from a farm owner. You replace entire print head assembly on Bambu rather than change a nozzle? wow. Dude that seems noobish.. Get an aftermarket nozzle. It is big and quiet.. but it is Chinese Creality.. they jam and break. It isnt perfect... but is Crealitys best. Nope. I will wait for Bambu. Very disappointed with Creality .
@@EmptyTelevision It's not how big it is, but how you use it 😉 and fwiw Creality has a reputation of promoting baldness from the hair pulling user experience that they specialize in.🤣
The bamboo X1 carbon is way better sorry to say just because this has a little more build room doesn’t mean anything. This machine requires lots of we versus the bamboo is pretty much ready to go with high-quality.
Overall I am very happy with the Printer. Its the first i can say that will give Bambu and run! I have literally, every creality printer. None are in my farm. They just havent been at the qualtiy level i need for our brand. Now, things have changed. The printer is a close to production version. The Firrmare is getting updated and new features are being added. I just got FLOW calibration and PA calibtration. I am currently testing what is the difference between each and how it impacts our prints. The pain is the fact that after the last update I have had to recalibrate all my profiles. There are surely changes in the firmware that impacted the print. Now the prints are not bad but I had gaps in my top layer. I like smooth top layers no ironing. This printer is a solid yes! I am wating to see what Bambu will have next year. but if you want a large printer this is it. I can print 4 parts per tray on the bambu, I can print 9 parts at time. Love it
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I gave up on Bambu for this year. I just ordered a K2 this morning (need it as an expense this year).
i wanna learn if i cant start a printer farm. its important to gauge how far you want to get into a industry period please pm me with any info
Fantastic deep dive into the printer and congrats on the print farm success!!!!
dont smash the door this time :) looking forward to your review
The video is far from deep dive :)! There is no real comparison between the printers what i expected to see...
I'm really excited to see so many multicolor 3D printers hitting the market in 2024! It's awesome to have more options for multicolor printing. However, the prices are pretty steep, so I'll need to consider my actual needs and maybe wait six months to see if they’re worth the investment. If these printers are mainly targeted at farm operators, how do they stack up against the FLSUN S1 Pro? Can they handle fast, batch printing efficiently? Maybe one day they’ll become a part of my workflow.
I have the s1 pro in test right now. The s1 pro is about 20 min faster in every print I have made. It's crazy fast. It's also much quieter than the last model. I am working with flsun on quality. The prints I am getting are not to my farm standards. But to be fair, it's a pre production unit. Firmware, software changes are taking place now. I have been working with them on top layer finish. They got dimension accuracy down.
Thank you so much for doing reviews based on the ability to make technical products. I would love to see tests with parts that have to be bolted, pressed, work as joints... as well.
Engineering stuff.
The Bambulab X1C is fantastic, but like you I really need a larger build size - not so much Z height and really just the ability make long parts, so I would be very happy with a double/tripple wide version, as opposed to all the ones that work on cubic, as I really need to be able to make longer parts. What form factor would be best for someone like you?
I would hand over the money right away if they came with a X2C
I dont make many of those, but i do have few. I am testing PLA CF Now
@@ebpman I like the Bambulab PLA CF and the PETG CF
Which format would you hope that Bambu came with in a larger printer?
Because with all the problems that we had with the K1 series, I don't trust it.
It looks quite large, which is very appealing to me. I wouldn’t choose it for multi-color printing, as my A1 setup meets my needs. By the end of November, I'll be deciding between the K2plus and the FLsun S1pro.
I just got into 3D printing last year with an Ender KE. I recently got the Bambu X1C with 4 AMS and its amazing. But i need a larger bed now to do larger items...so I just put in an order for the K2+ and two CFS units..
Hope i wont be disappointed
Bambu are going to have to think carefully about price on their big printer when it arrives next year, you will always get the people who will buy bambu regardless of the price but this printer really impresses me and will get my money eventually.
they will just steal someone else's design to come up with the new design.. bunch of scumbags
i heard from someone its gona be in the 2k range. i do some testing with flsun and in one group some one said 1999
@@scarfa21every 3d printer is a stolen design. people find what works with physics and others copy to keep up. its about innovation , and bambu brought tons of extra innovation to the table with stuff like the AMS.
bambu isnt making one.
It sounds like the major drawcard of the new bamboo could be active chamber heating. That will be huge thing for engineering applications!
And did they improve quality control? Because with all the problems that we had with the K1 series, I don't trust it.
To buy a machine as expensive as this one, I would wait at least 6 months to start seeing all the problems first.
I have been very happy with mine. I will say its a work in progress. For example I have not had the Flow Calibration and PA feature until now. With the last release I am testing this.but the prints are solid. Better than the K1, K1C, K1Max
@@tek9058 where and when was this sale?
you must of got the first round of k1 i am a die hard bambu guy own 14 bambu a1s and p1s mixed and i got a k1 to test last month and it is sick no issues think it is better in some ways then bambu. alot of early k1s had issues
I have needed a large format printer for a while now, several items I have designs for need to be cut because they are about 325mm. So far that rules out single print for me. I could borrow the local school's Ender 5 Plus to do the print on, but that's a PITA and I need to schedule time with the classes that use it. I heard Bambu was rumored to have a large format printer in the works for later in 2024 (but here we are in Mid-November and radio silence), but this? I mean, the quality looks to be there. 350C nozzle temp, heated chamber, hardened steel nozzle....and it should be available at my local MicroCenter soon? Yea...I may be skipping the wait on the Bambu Labs and getting this. Creality does 100% scare me, I've got 2 of their printers and I got 2 unicorns (I've never had issues as many others have), but I do know Creality can be a nightmare to deal with, and their printers can/do have issues.
This though makes it look like Creality may have done some serious work to get a high quality printer out to market, and that bed size? That could just seal the deal!
Great video, lots of detail. Thumbs up and thank you :)
Great review 🎉
Hi, there’s Creality Print v 5.1.6 out now, I’m getting much better prints now that I’ve done some calculations, my surface finish is smooth and the first layer surface is smooth, not that I had a problem in the first place. Because of the issues in C/Print 5.0 I went back to v4; I now use C/Print 5.1.6 which was released a few weeks ago now. I still have a slight cobweb stringing which I’m sure there’s a setting to adjust which should eliminate this. Also, I have a K1 using the smooth heat bed which I have the bed heat at 60c, I’ve only been 3D printing for nearly 12 months, but had been looking at 3D printers for about 5 years.
Great video and interesting. Take care. Regards Gary
Hey this looks like a great printer. Coming from the Voron and Bambu world i think your first layer issues are z-offset issues most likely. Its a common issue with printers like the Sovol SV08. That screen looks very locked down even though it runs klipper. I would so a Z-offset calibration if it has one. You can use the Web UI to log in to the printer and do z-offset calibrate if your screen does not let you.
If it’s like the k1 you can do it in the slicer or on the machine itself.
If like the K1 > Settings > Expert Mode > Z Offset. You can change it on the fly and then make it permanent in software.
Great video, very thorough! Thanks for sharing your experience and the pros/cons.
Seems like the K2 Plus is a winner, if you are willing to compromise on some teething pains
For a pre production unit its good. The best I have had from them. Small bugs for sure
I've watched all the reviews launched today. Yours is the best BY FAR. You clearly LOVE printing, you probably racked up more hours of printing on the K2 Plus over anyone else. You kept this thing working 24/7
I am about to buy my first ever 3D printer. The Prusa Mk4s was my top contender, but with the excessive cost of shipping, that is having me rethink. I was starting to settle on the BAMBU X1 Carbon, until I heard of this printer. Now I am not so sure.
@@scottf136 Bambu is solid. Any machine. With eyes closed. Bambu you can't go wrong
Great review. Informative and thorough..... What filament do you use for your laser jigs?
Would be cool if you could create a filament profile in Creality Print and then upload that profile to the printer for future use.
So are all other printer manufacturers playing catch-up to bambu?
Creality did a long long time and a lot of homework to bring a printer like this after the k1,k1c,k1max ender3 v3 the k2plus and the CFS are top now the best part will be the (CFS kit) nice video
If you're only printing fairly low temp materials like PLA, throw some of Slice Engineering's plastic repellent paint (PTFE nanosuspension) on your nozzle. The only drawback I see is that it's only rated for 290C.
I think one problem with the bambu x1 is lighting and the camera , but if bambu didn't bring out the x1 , creality would still be selling slow bed slingers .
I think bambu did push the 3d market alone, but will have to see if bambu innovates or will they be happy with their share of the market.
So I’m Starting a Print farm in an area that’s more rural but has a lot of manufacturing other businesses. Some of the businesses have printers but a lot of them don’t use them.
I currently have a Bambu P1S and I stopped buying printers because several brands released bigger or better designed printers. My question is would you recommend the K2 or any other printer over the Bambu printers?
What was your deal with Creality for this video? I just don't trust them after having two Ender 3s... Hopefully I'm wrong and this is something I can buy at some point
@@liminalnetworks7691 none. Lol. It's a good product.
The problem with ender 3’s was they were already classified by many as tinker printers for their price. I own one moded to the teeth. I cannot complain because I know what I was getting into when I purchased it.
Can't compare a $100 printer to a $1500 printer.
@EagleBayNightSupplies true. This is a good machine. Especially for production.
@@EagleBayNightSupplies I agree, but it felt more like an underbaked product. Creatilty has some brand reputation hurdles to overcome. We will see
Heya. Great video. There's talk about not being able to do multicolor prints with layers below 0.2 height? What are your findings?
I think what they were saying is that in multi-color printing, a very low layer height can look like the colors are blending together, which is a possibility for all multi-color machines, including those from Bambu.
A couple of things I'd like to see is times for the following;
1). From getting a job, what's the time until it begins to print?
2). In the case of Multi colour, what is the time it takes to do a filament change and return to printing.
My XL 5TH takes almost 9 minutes to start which seems an eternity compared to the others. But the filament change is 5 seconds compared to Bambu's almost 30 seconds. This is where it kills the single toollheads for print speed.
Single colours mostly my 5M Pro will knock the job over quickest or if it's busy, the Bambu. But Muti colour the lack of waste and the speed it will always be the XL.
I have a Prus XL. Frankly I have had so many issues that I have given up on it. Its off on the corner. Big waste of 3k. I will look at start times today. I cant compare it to my prusa xl because is dead for now I have a two print head version and both have heat block issues.
is it a reason why you not use pursa?
Did Creality make you sign a contract to send them the video for review before letting you post it? It just seems too positive for a genuine review.
@@MekazaBitrusty nope. I have been doing reviews on UA-cam for over 10 years. Over 80 million views. Never have nor never will sign a contract that requires preview or approval. I actually turn down many who do. I have been a user of creality for a very long time and have had every printer they have created. Frankly they are OK not great. Bambu crushed it when it first came out. I also have prusa. Do you see prusa here on my channel? My prusa xl is off in the corner collecting dust. It's is a horrible machine. But many will not say that. This is genuinely a great machine. It worked to my surprise and worked well. Now I am testing two other printers large that I am on email daily with the maker. High potential but poor execution. That has not been the case with the k2 plus. It's a solid machine
It looked like your layer was failing to stick on right front side on CF item printing in last minute of video? I do love the gold PEI built plates best...Nice looking machine, loving what has been released in printers in recent year or two. Waiting to see Bambu latest and greatest release. Right now very happy with my Q1 pro and Plus4(they fixed heater chamber issue on units going out and for early release 115V stuff) from Qidi, at $799 the Plus4 with 305mm plate does fine job. Will be waiting til sometime in 2025 before I choose larger than my 305mm machine(hope to see greater than 350mm footprint at least say a 375-400 on Z, but will go with a multi color or multi tool setup. Time will tell. I am curious to see how the AMS unit for my QIDI works out once released. Sure seems like the whole RFID tag thing is becoming popular. They should create stick on labels for other brands one can setup for RFID......
Thanks for the great review and excellent job highlighting those fantastic details, great job! Outstanding work! Love you print farm! The mask in Creality machine looks great, what is that Ant man or something like that, I don't really keep up on all the movie stuff going on.
Weird that it was failing the print at the end and you didn't address it.
@@ReEngineerTech Sorry. What part?
The print in carbon fiber when you are talking about the noise levels at the end of the video. The first layer isn't adhering and the print is failing.
Would I be able to print Nylon X on this?
Thanks for the review. Can you provide some advice to someone looking to pick up work for clients doing production parts. I am quite comfortable with the CAD software I use as well. I guess I’m mostly wondering how you market yourself to get this kind of works. Thanks!
@@ryleylamarsh it all about finding your niche. Once you do, social media, website seo do the trick
what is your electricity cost per printer and cooling/heating just seems like you'd have to charge a lot
compare with the qidi 4 plus
@@OG-ChokeMaster in will when I get their cfs ams version
I have an X1 Bambu but I am a beginner still is this beginner friendly or should I order another bambu
If you like this or any other printer, buy them now. Tariffs incoming will increase prices drastically.
Thank goodness Trump will be in office again!
which one would you recommend in an office for people that are not very used to 3d printing?
We want a printer that doesn't require a lot from the user but delivers good quality. We will use the printer for both concept and presentation models.
Thanks for the good content!
Bambu a1 combo budget variant, but x1c btw better
YYY are you draying abrasive materials, what is the base polymer?
@@cgrosbeck I don't do much abrasive. A get a few requests for pla cf. Most is pla, some Asa and rare petg.
Thank you für your Work and this video. I´m coming from a Creality Ender3 S1 Pro and was on the way to switch over to am Bambu X1C. They will come in 2025 with new( i think bigger) printers. I think, i´ll wait for problems, that may be will come up withe the new K2 Plus in the next Month (like the Qidi) and what Bambu is going to show up.
But I'm curious to know how it prints flex filaments, has it been tested?
@@gianpaolo1331 I have to get some TPU. Didn’t have any
I recently bought a K1 Max. I think I should have waited to get the K2 instead. Oh well. I'll get one down the road a bit.
I still have and use my original, first generation Ender 3 that I bought at least ten years ago. I've done a lot of upgrades to it, though most were not necessary. I just like to tinker.
@@Waltkat this is pretty solid no need to tinker which I love.
Did you try asa, pc, pa, or some other material that can benefit from the heater chamber?
@@Twikiy Asa, PA CF and petg gf. I didn't have any of the others
Appreciate the review, but I have many concerns with this machine. Especially around multi-color... the example you showed is, we'll call it, a single layer. The benchy wouldn't count either as it just changes color completely at a certain layer. How does the machine do with true multi-color prints?
Also, based on what I'm seeing from other videos, I'm seeing and hearing:
1) Difficulties with jams
2) TERRIBLE prints
3) TERRIBLE layer lines
4) Unable to use silk PLA in the CFS
5) Too tightly rewinding filament in the CFS
6) Issues with cardboard spools
7) A lot of Z-wobble
8) A very noisy CFS
9) Issus with power failure recovery
10) Issues with color shifts
11) Not being able to print multi-color below .2 mm
Have you experienced or can you speak to any of these?
I have one on pre-order and I'm experiencing a certain level of anxiety that it's going to be a nightmare, poor quality prints, and a waste of money.
I'm getting stellar prints from my A1/AMS lite combo and was really hoping that this was going to be an issue free machine with high quality prints rivaling the A1 & X1 out of the box. It doesn't sound like it so far.
Maybe you or others here can ease my mind a bit, or confirm my reservations.
Thanks again!
No to all except 11. I have not done. Multicolor below..2.its been very stable. I had one jam in the cfs because the spool was too wide. It was a plastic wide spool. But jam cleared easy with release button under cfs. I have 2 a1 and the rest of my farm is p1s and x1c. I can't say that this is 100% at the same level as the firmware is getting updated and features are being opened. For example PA and flow testing just became availble. That said, I can tell that the ai works. I see differences in prints where PA and flow have been calibrated. All in all it's been a great experience. This is not common for creality
That's a great list of issues, thanks for summarizing that here.
this is why preordering a creality is a bad idea....look at early k1 owners. they will eventually get it figured out though
From looking at things and thinking about it; im starting to feel like some farms don't actually make money from their printers. But from social media coverage instead. I've met a wide variety of regular people and small businesses ownes, and sometimes we talk about 3d printers. I cannot say a single one has purchased a printed product.
So im wondering where are all these supposed customers? (Aside from the laser jigs mentioned, of course. Those are a little different.)
I like the k2 but very hesitate my first and current printer is the ender 5 plus and its nothing but a headache. Theres basically no support they cant even release a proper firmware update
One question. k2 or sermoon d3?
I can get the sermoon for 2 thirds almost half of the k2.
@@davdav1181 I prefer the k2 for the speed and bed.
@@ebpman thanks
is it quieter than the prusa MK3/MK4?
nahh, coreXY are usually louder
Much much quieter
@@ebpman oh that would be awesome, I think the prusa mk3 is nearly silent (but so slow)
Wish I could properly see the quality of these prints, but that camera focus was just really annoying the entire video.
Ohhhh deadpool mask! But was thinking about trying one of these
Now bring a smaller (Bambu size) Version and they can have my money. Not everyone needs such a massive printer.😊
Bambu H2D
I appreciate this but I have been finding there is an inherent lack of information on these new printers and how well they work with different materials. For example, most of these high speed printers completely lack in the department of 95 A TPU/TPE. I see 0 info on any of this stuff. I am growing a little irritated with it because I feel like these machines are completely ignoring it. For instance, the Bambu printers knot the ever living heck out 95. Some other printers like the Prusa mk4 are a different beast all together making a great machine for flexibles.
My small business prints all of our products in TPU and some are tall with a thin wall, so bed slinger designs cause the part to move as it's printing. Even on a coreXY printer where the XY gantry moves on top and the part only moves slowly in the Z axis, TPU flow characteristics don't allow high speed printing. I'm mostly interested in the newer printers for input shaping and more precise motion control hardware for better print quality, for a larger bed that allows more parts to be printed in a single print job, and more refined hardware that is more reliable. The latter is not yet proven for the K2 Plus, and Creality's history makes me wonder, but I'm liking what I'm seeing so far. They seem to have upped their game with the K2 Plus. I think I'd be able to pull the glass top off the K2 Plus and feed TPU directly into the extruder from an overhead bearing hub reel, eliminating the long reverse Bowden tube.
For a future product, I'd love to be able to print ABS and TPU together in a single part. This would require a heated chamber and probably a directly fed extruder for the TPU. Bambu now has a TPU that works in their AMS. Presumably it's a higher durometer, and presumably it'd also work in the Creality K2 Plus with a CFS. Possibly my best hope is a Sovol SV08 with an enclosure, either passively heat the chamber or add my own thermostatically controlled chamber heater, and implement a swappable print head that the Sovol/Voron community has developed. If that could be made to be reliable, the added advantages would be much less filament waste when changing filaments and faster filament swaps. My product is ABS on the bottom and TPU on the top, so it would only need the filament swap for a few mm in the middle.
@@Liberty4Ever Normal 85 TPU works fine in the printer. I dont really know what you were trying to get at here, but being concerned about the other features you said... all of those are written on the box before sale. The concern with things like 95 A is that these machines simply dont have a decent, small clearance between the extruder and the hotend. I can run TPE/TPU 95A an minimum speeds and it will still just stretch it. Then I can go over to my sprite hotend on an ender 3 and it works every time. Bambu just stretches the filament instantly. 85A isnt really a problem as its stiff enough not to stretch.
@@WhatsTheWordBozo - Shore 95A is a higher durometer than 85A. 95A stretches less than 85A, not more. The lower the durometer, the more difficult it is to feed and print.
Why do you have the Bambus if you think they are less than?
You're right, he should just throw away thousands of dollars of Bambu gear now that the K2 Plus has been launched.
@cr4zyg047 haha yeah I know right? XD
Please make direct comparison video between the two! 2 same printed cubs with same filament and speed, 2 same multicolor samples with same filaments, noise comparison, feeder comparison and etc! This video not give us the needed info! We all know the build volume differences!!
Why do you use a camera that everything is out of focus ? I would like to see this video but i am going mad....
The movement at 1:01 was kinda strange
Lmao
Creality once again sending reviewers perfect pre tested machines and sending crap to consumers. Consumers who bought this have such high percentage of problems its worrisome going through their facebook pages. Once again shady practices by Creality.
So when this printer was announced, several content creators reported that the CFS system would be compatible with the latest gen Creality printers. none of the current creators reviewing this machine are saying anything about this. Sounds like a content embargo. Creality change their minds?
i was watching a live stream earlier from the official Creality account and someone asked about this. The guy said they are still working on it and should announce a date soon that it would be backwards compatible.
Maybe the Kit involves sending in your k1(max) and receive a k2plus. Jokes asside it would be interesting to see how they manage to build this kit. i mean changing the toolhead wouldnt be a big problem but there is also the question where the poop goes, ...
I have not heard anything on that yet.
@@horstschlemmer1337 Maybe it'll print a poop tower and then use the tool head to yeet it off the build plate out the front door. 😂
Hi dear, can you test cfs on K1 model? Why does Creality claim that the CFS is only compatible with the K2 Plus model?
You've had this printer for 2 months did you mean 2 weeks?
No actually two months. I have an early version.
@ that’s awesome, will you be doing a quality comparison with the bamboo ?
@@JustAlb1n I think he aleady did in this video XD
@@crusader-hcq I heard but I thought he was was mistaken, he’s had the printer a long time.
So the software on the K2 lacks. You lost my respect when you claimed the Bambu must be disassembled if it has a filament jam. I expected more from a farm owner. You replace entire print head assembly on Bambu rather than change a nozzle? wow. Dude that seems noobish.. Get an aftermarket nozzle. It is big and quiet.. but it is Chinese Creality.. they jam and break.
It isnt perfect... but is Crealitys best. Nope. I will wait for Bambu. Very disappointed with Creality .
At $750, id get one. At the current price, ill pass.
$1299 for this vs $1199 for X1 Carbon with AMS 😂
Not sure what they were smoking 🚬
X1 carbon is too small for my needs as I print cosplay. K2 plus is Awesome and at a great price.
@@EmptyTelevision It's not how big it is, but how you use it 😉 and fwiw Creality has a reputation of promoting baldness from the hair pulling user experience that they specialize in.🤣
@rrb79 what did you smoke? K2 is much more than bamboo
The bamboo X1 carbon is way better sorry to say just because this has a little more build room doesn’t mean anything. This machine requires lots of we versus the bamboo is pretty much ready to go with high-quality.