would really love to see some industry standard tests. 1st layer test, some type of vfa test, some input_shaper maps. not gonna lie some smaller prints look passable. but those colours sbd type of prints are not exactly ideal. but most interested. in the unit u actually bought.
@TheRealSamPrentice well as I said. And don't get me wrong. You can see the current state of influencers. People being paid, bots in UA-cam comments and on reddit, these days you have to take things with a pinch of salt. It would really help with some standard test everyone uses as comparison. This is coming from someone who looked at reviews by popular reviewers, bought a k1m and basically had to rebuild the entire thing.
Sorry that was about the link, yeah I agree usually we get a release date and some guidelines, this is the worst release that I’ve been part of, and to be fair you might not see me doing much more with them after December.
This is a great review of the K2 Plus, Sam! I hope they consider adding a five-color system. I've run into issues with inconsistent layer lines in large prints too, so your tips on firmware updates are super helpful. For big single-material projects, I often use the FLSUN T1 . It’s really fast and perfect for large models. While it doesn’t support multiple materials like the K2 Plus, it’s incredibly reliable for high-volume printing.
Creality seems to have really upped their game. I'm impressed by the thought they've put in to this. I hope the quality control department doesn't let their engineering department down. Personally, I don't have anywhere I could fit this printer. A 250mm version (K1 Plus v2?) would be far more interesting to me. BTW, we do not consume a credit card worth of plastic per week. The study from the University of Newcastle (howay the lads!) that claimed that counted the number of particles and then assigned a average, standard particle mass that was far, far too high in order to come up with the total. Other researchers who have revisited the data have come up with much lower estimates. In some cases, as low as a grain of salt per week. I'm not suggesting that is good, I'm fully on board with microplastics being a very bad thing, but I do want to correct the error that everyone on social media is amplifying.
A tip on your switching materials. Get a roll of regular nylon preferably natural. Use it to purge until all the old filament is out of the nozzle and then do a cold pull to make sure all the old stuff is out. Having worked with high temp stuff for awhile now we do that anytime we are changing material. The nylon we have been using extrudes fine at 240c(low enough for even pla) and has thermal break down at 350. So up to 340c is easy. It is possible to purge out even PEEK with it but you have to keep the flowrate really high while purging until the temps drop down to under 350c.
@@Skott62 Bambu is copying Ultimaker or some other more pro 3D printer. What Bambulabs did was just make one that is more affordable. They did not invent the design.
After seeing it in person at the Creality Sharefest in Chicago, I came away pretty impressed. I have to say their CFS changing was pretty loud in comparison to Bambu and AnyCubic.
I got mine for 750€ so it was an amazing deal, but also for 1500 it's worth the money. The K2 Plus is one of the best printers I have used so far. The print quality compared to the K1 is amazing and the printer also seems like it's easy to maintain. And this time, the machine really feels like it's high quality, cause nothing is shaking weirdly thanks to the powerful and heavy frame. I'm not a Creality fanboy, but all in all I'm very happy with the product this time! They FINALLY did a great job!!
I also got one at 40% but it’s frustrating when you can see in my purchases that I got one on the first day also in my store purchases but was unable to complete the purchase because their system wouldn’t support the load. But at this price I think it’s really hard to beat. I will add a couple more CFS systems
this looks quite interesting. my local filament manufacturer/distributor actually has one on order and it should be arriving this week at their facility. I'm keen to pop in to see how it's working!
@@TheRealSamPrentice I know Sam. I have had a shipping email for a week but no tracking number to date. But Creality still opened regular orders today, while pre-orders are still not delivered, we are walking on our heads
@@TheRealSamPrentice ah that's too bad, I like that being in the Bambu Lab machine & slicer stock. I hope they production model is just as good as those 10
My biggest issue is the most recent delay for preorders were never told to the customers. I had to write in and ask why my order was never shipped and that’s when I found out that it won’t ship out until next month. How can you open up sales for a product when preorders aren’t even being delivered?
Just like with RatRig and the core 4 & IDEX... all of these companies have communications issues and they don't see why its a problem to keep customers in the dark.
Ya know, obviously you can use any filament you wish with the CFS (assuming the CFS doesn’t have problems with some cardboard spools that some folks have reported) without encoding stickers on them. You can just enter the settings by hand. Perhaps in the not too distant future, the systems can be made universal so that any encoded spools can be used with any filament changing system, sorta like QR codes. 🤞
This confused my future purchase of a 2nd printer for my son this holiday. He got a Creality Ender V3 KE from a 3D printing camp this summer, and turned it into a little printing business for himself since. Wanted to gift him a 2nd printer since you can only do so much with one workload. I've settled on a Bambu P1S. To get that and an AMS for $750 seems like the best deal at the moment. If... i mean _when_ we get the eventual 3rd printer, he'll be paying for at least part of it. And I think by then all the kinks will be worked out of this model, or we'll know what large volume model Bambu has been working on.
I bet I will be very happy when the K2 arrives, but at the moment I'm just pissed off. Delay over 1 month, still no tracking (so not shipped I think) or any detailed information when it will be shipped. Some of the Pre-Sale bonus stuff are already in discount. I really hope my K2 will arrive this month.
Actually, there gave 5 promotional prices during their preorder. They sold the K2 at 50%, 40%, 30%, 20%, and finally at $1499.00. So, this is no 11/11 deal! They sold 400 units for $749.00 with the CFS at 50%. promotion. If they can give away 400 combo units for $749.00 then they can do much better for Black Friday.
Most ppl have to understand that copying is how things get better ! the k2 is a copy of many printers put together in the best way king of the hill now good job Creality and dont forget to say thanks to the (open source community)
Outstanding presentation Sam you did an awesome job with this and I am looking forward to more information from you on the K2 plus Mine should be here pretty soon, and I am looking forward to it and as you said the cables are kind of short so I’ve had to restructure my shelving unit to accommodate it because of the massive size of this printer, but I’m sure Creality will issue a new longer cable so people will have the option to move it to the side, which will make it much more convenient
Thanks Sam, balanced as always. Its always an 'exciting' learning curve with new Creality printers. Im starting to look forward to getting my teeth into this one.
Great review, bro. FYI, If you happen to have the longer cables that come with the Bambu Lab multi-AMS Hub kit... they work, and will effectively extend the CFS to 1.5 meters or more, I thin kit is. Mine is on a shelf above the printer now ;)
you can really see it well were the arms are cut off. it would drive me nuts. that alone makes me want to hold off on ordering it. be nice to see normal production units too.
@TheNerdArmory I’ve shot a fair amount already just concentrating on prints and print quality at the moment. I will say this release, which is the public release seems to work really well ! They’re just sending me an enclosure kit too
Those PPS-CF parts looked incredible. With multi-color printing in a heated enclosed chamber, maybe ABS will make a comeback despite the stinky smell, if there is a good vapor smoothing post process appliance that can vapor smooth an entire build platform. Multi-color structural parts is a trick that injection molding can't do. My application for multi-filament printing isn't color, it's printing parts in ABS and TPU, but TPU doesn't feed from the CFS.
@@TheRealSamPrentice - Maybe create a disposable part that cleans the nozzle by printing a material like ABS at higher than normal temperature when switching back from glass or carbon filled high temperature engineering materials to PLA/PETG/ABS? Having the CFS to swap filaments and leaving the nozzle cleaning part in the printer's memory would make that fairly fast.
good video as always, but could you maybe get a little more under the skin on how easy it is when the belt needs to be changed and the bearings are easier to change without having to completely separate it. how the belt tension is designed, whether they can be individually tightened, just like how the bed z movement is designed. is it the one with full open klipper or is it still their own version, you don't mention grace about in the video.
Grace ? So it’s the same as the K1 so it is open, but it’s not exclusive. On the belt side they will of course stretch over time but the setup should warn you when you need to do that, at the moment I’m just chucking prints at it and seeing what breaks
Thanks for the video Sam. I'm having a lot of concerns with the printer. Even your Jar Jar looked pretty bad and you said you were happy with it. I'm seeing similar issues from other reviews as well including: Too tightly rewinding in the CFS. Issues using cardboard spool. Bad quality prints/layer lines/shifts Unable to use PLA Silk in the CFS Difficulty with jams Issues with color shifts Etc I have one on pre-order and I'm experiencing a certain level of anxiety that it's going to be a nightmare, poor quality prints, and a waste of money. I'm getting stellar prints from my A1/AMS lite combo and was really hoping that this was going to be an issue free machine with high quality prints rivaling the A1 & X1C out of the box. It doesn't sound like it so far. Maybe you or others here can ease my mind a bit, or confirm my reservations.
I got you, I was happy with the jar jar print, you have to remember that’s also called from a 3 inch file, but from a file that I will paint I am happy. The CFS is loud, but I’ve not had any crazy jams, plus the bottom of the cfs has easy access to clear any blocks. The profiles do need tuning, and it’s NOT an x1c out of the box. The belt tensioner has had some issues and if that’s not “right” you will get some quality issues and potentially some movements on the color changer.
@@TheRealSamPrenticeoh my bad. Was to hyped to listed fully. Still watching right now! I was gunna say, I never saw the kickstarter campaign for it 😅 yes I remember the 50% off release fun
@@TheRealSamPrenticesorry while your here at 17:10 you showed fluid access with of course :4408 Is that already available straight away? As of course the K1’s we had to root and install proper Klipper & interfaces such as fluid or mainsail
It would be nice for them to add profiles for other filaments. I have a bunch of projects I need to print in abs but their choice of black, white, and gray leaves alot to desired for color choice... Don't get me wrong. Their hyper abs prints ( for what I have printed so far ) perfectly. I just would like a larger variety and I don't understand the tweaking of the slicer settings.. yet.. I'm learning.. Just need to find someone that can teach me. (I can't ask questions to a video.. well.. I could but .. lol.) Love the K1 max. Can't wait to get my K2 Plus!
Have you tried putting the CFS hub onto the back of the CFS? I have it on mine.. and sits perfectly on the side... I posted a picture on the Creality discord..
Yeah I saw that, and no I haven’t, Creailty very much made me cram for this review, I’m happy with it but would have been happier with the extra time they ended up giving. I did see the post as it happens and I’ll give it a go
Did you try printing multicolor at lower layer heights? I have seen another review where there were issues with printing multi-color at lower than 0.2mm layers.
Do you have any insight into the production run CFS cable and PTFE tube lengths? Will they be longer than what you received on the preview model? Their own marketing images has the CFS unit set to the side (I am referring to the shot of the four units, two each side somehow stacked with a shelf or frame) so I'd be pretty peeved if I paid Creality $2400 and I couldn't use all 4 CFS units at once...
The layer seems to be bad... The change is very visible. Unfortunately this is not the quality I was expected. Hope they will manage to have a good quality print,and not a waste of filament. Clean layer is the most important thing, and Creality is very bad in it.
Well, to answer the question posed in the title, does the K2 Plus offer greater utility than three Bambu A1's with AMS Lite, because that is an equal price comparison. Obviously, for certain use cases, the answer is "yes". Exotic filaments and large-format multi-color prints are two of those use cases, but it seems to me that the vast majority of people would be better served by three A1's, or more accurately one A1 for 1/3 the price. I don't think anyone can call the K2 Plus a "value" printer with a straight face other than those who got a freebie or were lucky enough to get a deeply discounted one. Am I mad that I didn't get an early bird model? Yes. That was a marketing debacle because my perspective now, like most people, is that I have to pay 80% more to get the printer. I was there, I was willing, but I couldn't get the price. Balls. So now I am in no hurry to get it, and if the Bambu large-format is released before I buy the Creality during a sale, I'll get that instead.
Did you have to "Root" the K2 to run klipper on it or did you really just SSH into it and klipper and all the macros/mainsail were already there?? Im new to klipper so not sure the protocal/steps to ve able to troubleshoot like you did
How K2 looks compared to QIDI plus4 (assuming thst srs issiue is fixed). Based on other reviews, i have some mixed feelings about print quality. Are they compsrable, or do we have the winner here?
@@mariuszzielinski2009 so the two main areas are going to be around firmware and your print profile, so dialling things in, slowing down on parts and I don’t rate the part cooling at the moment.. so slower for quality IMO
@@mariuszzielinski2009 QIDI won’t work with me as on the 3max I pointed out lots of flaws on the end they paid me not to put a video and instead paid me for r&d which they then didn’t fix.. shady shady company.
@TheRealSamPrentice, so what could I buy at a reasonable price with a little bigger volume than bamu? Is that just K2 or something else or should I wait for new bambu 2025? As everyone, I just need enclosed all in one machine multicolor capable with good quality and speed. (Nothing special... I know :)
The ordering process is confusing. The official Creality UK site states that is ships between 2-5 business days and that there are 33 available but pre-orders will start to be shipped on the 10th of next month. I have asked them which is which and whether it's worth cancelling my pre-order and buying again so that I can get it sooner. I don't expect a useful answer but would like to be pleasantly surprised.
@@TheRealSamPrentice I ordered it from CrealityUKOfficial about a month ago, not via the link. I needed a larger bed for a project that's currently on hold and I'm completely in the dark as to when the printer will be shipped. I'm seriously considering cancelling the order and getting another large bed machine (that actually exists!) 🙂
I have real bags and a lot of them. I have a friend who buys the kislux we put them side by side and guess what ?! Itâs unbelievable!!! I am at the Chanel boutique with her and no one can tell she has a fake
Yeah seeing this is a "plus" I'd imagine a standard version is coming. Seeing they didn't use the "MAX" name from the K1 I wonder if that means theres a max coming too. Would be weird to put that nomenclature away after 1 model.
It's creality, so it's still trash, I have 3, did have 4 until I sent the k1 back, arrived inoperable, hotend issue, another 3v2, sensor issue, another with a constant problem with this or that, don't order trash to save money pay another $100-200 get a bambu and never have a problem again. If you like working/fixing on 3d printers vs using 3d printers stay with creality.
@@crusader-hcq Oh I'd agree. If Bambu lab wasn't closed and I could use Octoprint on it, I'd 100% consider that. Considering I can do that with Creality, I'm more likely to purchase a k2+ because I'll actually be able to use it with my computer rather than fiddle about with a less than needed touchscreen.
If you want to buy a 3D printer better get one before Trump gets into the White House. I think we're going to see some see more tariffs on anything Chinese.
Order now: shorturl.at/16OOp (aff link)
would really love to see some industry standard tests. 1st layer test, some type of vfa test, some input_shaper maps. not gonna lie some smaller prints look passable. but those colours sbd type of prints are not exactly ideal. but most interested. in the unit u actually bought.
Anyone else get ERR_ADDRESS_INVALID for that url?
It’s working
@TheRealSamPrentice well as I said. And don't get me wrong. You can see the current state of influencers. People being paid, bots in UA-cam comments and on reddit, these days you have to take things with a pinch of salt. It would really help with some standard test everyone uses as comparison. This is coming from someone who looked at reviews by popular reviewers, bought a k1m and basically had to rebuild the entire thing.
Sorry that was about the link, yeah I agree usually we get a release date and some guidelines, this is the worst release that I’ve been part of, and to be fair you might not see me doing much more with them after December.
This is a great review of the K2 Plus, Sam! I hope they consider adding a five-color system. I've run into issues with inconsistent layer lines in large prints too, so your tips on firmware updates are super helpful. For big single-material projects, I often use the FLSUN T1 . It’s really fast and perfect for large models. While it doesn’t support multiple materials like the K2 Plus, it’s incredibly reliable for high-volume printing.
We need the promised upgrade kit for the K1 Max!
Creality seems to have really upped their game. I'm impressed by the thought they've put in to this. I hope the quality control department doesn't let their engineering department down. Personally, I don't have anywhere I could fit this printer. A 250mm version (K1 Plus v2?) would be far more interesting to me.
BTW, we do not consume a credit card worth of plastic per week. The study from the University of Newcastle (howay the lads!) that claimed that counted the number of particles and then assigned a average, standard particle mass that was far, far too high in order to come up with the total. Other researchers who have revisited the data have come up with much lower estimates. In some cases, as low as a grain of salt per week. I'm not suggesting that is good, I'm fully on board with microplastics being a very bad thing, but I do want to correct the error that everyone on social media is amplifying.
@@JonS www.newcastle.edu.au/newsroom/featured/plastic-ingestion-by-people-could-be-equating-to-a-credit-card-a-week this one ??
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A tip on your switching materials. Get a roll of regular nylon preferably natural. Use it to purge until all the old filament is out of the nozzle and then do a cold pull to make sure all the old stuff is out. Having worked with high temp stuff for awhile now we do that anytime we are changing material. The nylon we have been using extrudes fine at 240c(low enough for even pla) and has thermal break down at 350. So up to 340c is easy. It is possible to purge out even PEEK with it but you have to keep the flowrate really high while purging until the temps drop down to under 350c.
Great tip right here!
That is one big boy machine! 1000% with you on they should have tried to do 5 or even 6 colors multi material to fit with this new big machine!
20 color cfs and heated, it does print carbon fibre like a beast tho, and I’m looking forward to seeing you unboxing this
@UncleJessy Pro tip: Mind the glass door 😅
They are just copying Bambu despite what Sam said
Yeah but Uncle Jessy didn’t break a Bambu door did he! The bloody legend!
@@Skott62 Bambu is copying Ultimaker or some other more pro 3D printer. What Bambulabs did was just make one that is more affordable. They did not invent the design.
After seeing it in person at the Creality Sharefest in Chicago, I came away pretty impressed. I have to say their CFS changing was pretty loud in comparison to Bambu and AnyCubic.
Was nice meeting ya in Chicago at creality Sharefest. Still waiting to get shipment status of my k2 but I'm excited to get it.
I got mine for 750€ so it was an amazing deal, but also for 1500 it's worth the money. The K2 Plus is one of the best printers I have used so far. The print quality compared to the K1 is amazing and the printer also seems like it's easy to maintain. And this time, the machine really feels like it's high quality, cause nothing is shaking weirdly thanks to the powerful and heavy frame. I'm not a Creality fanboy, but all in all I'm very happy with the product this time! They FINALLY did a great job!!
Wow, I thought no one got it for 50% (I got mine for 40%)
@vladislav8660 Yes, I got it on the second day when they released another 200 units for 50%
I also got one at 40% but it’s frustrating when you can see in my purchases that I got one on the first day also in my store purchases but was unable to complete the purchase because their system wouldn’t support the load. But at this price I think it’s really hard to beat. I will add a couple more CFS systems
I got mine for $1199 USD, I think that was a great deal 😅
@@krmnalmind has it arrived for you yet? because I'm still waiting for mine
So, another influencer/reviewer showing prints with lots of layer lines in PLA prints..... So we need to wait a while for better firmware updates.
this looks quite interesting. my local filament manufacturer/distributor actually has one on order and it should be arriving this week at their facility. I'm keen to pop in to see how it's working!
Great video as always, many thanks for your comments and analysis on this machine which is still taking a long time to arrive here!
Yeah there’s no excuse IMO I also ordered one and I’m waiting also..
@@TheRealSamPrentice I know Sam. I have had a shipping email for a week but no tracking number to date. But Creality still opened regular orders today, while pre-orders are still not delivered, we are walking on our heads
Now that the K2 Plus is out I'm really hoping they speed up development for the K1 lineup CFS-compatible upgrade kits
I'm hoping they come up with some profiles for the Polymaker line of materials.
I have some private tuning profiles that once complete will be on the polymaker discord. Creailty won’t do it that’s for sure
@@TheRealSamPrentice ah that's too bad, I like that being in the Bambu Lab machine & slicer stock. I hope they production model is just as good as those 10
My biggest issue is the most recent delay for preorders were never told to the customers. I had to write in and ask why my order was never shipped and that’s when I found out that it won’t ship out until next month.
How can you open up sales for a product when preorders aren’t even being delivered?
Yep comms have been terrible and it was the same with this release schedule
Those who buy now will probably receive it sooner than those who bought in advance. I expect this behavior from Creality.
Just like with RatRig and the core 4 & IDEX... all of these companies have communications issues and they don't see why its a problem to keep customers in the dark.
Ya know, obviously you can use any filament you wish with the CFS (assuming the CFS doesn’t have problems with some cardboard spools that some folks have reported) without encoding stickers on them. You can just enter the settings by hand.
Perhaps in the not too distant future, the systems can be made universal so that any encoded spools can be used with any filament changing system, sorta like QR codes. 🤞
This confused my future purchase of a 2nd printer for my son this holiday. He got a Creality Ender V3 KE from a 3D printing camp this summer, and turned it into a little printing business for himself since. Wanted to gift him a 2nd printer since you can only do so much with one workload.
I've settled on a Bambu P1S. To get that and an AMS for $750 seems like the best deal at the moment. If... i mean _when_ we get the eventual 3rd printer, he'll be paying for at least part of it. And I think by then all the kinks will be worked out of this model, or we'll know what large volume model Bambu has been working on.
I bet I will be very happy when the K2 arrives, but at the moment I'm just pissed off. Delay over 1 month, still no tracking (so not shipped I think) or any detailed information when it will be shipped.
Some of the Pre-Sale bonus stuff are already in discount.
I really hope my K2 will arrive this month.
Hopefully the print quality improves
Actually, there gave 5 promotional prices during their preorder. They sold the K2 at 50%, 40%, 30%, 20%, and finally at $1499.00. So, this is no 11/11 deal! They sold 400 units for $749.00 with the CFS at 50%. promotion. If they can give away 400 combo units for $749.00 then they can do much better for Black Friday.
You're ungrateful af. Pay the full price then 🤣🤣
Most ppl have to understand that copying is how things get better ! the k2 is a copy of many printers put together in the best way king of the hill now good job Creality and dont forget to say thanks to the (open source community)
This is on my list for sure, but I need to see how the production units fair.
Outstanding presentation Sam you did an awesome job with this and I am looking forward to more information from you on the K2 plus Mine should be here pretty soon, and I am looking forward to it and as you said the cables are kind of short so I’ve had to restructure my shelving unit to accommodate it because of the massive size of this printer, but I’m sure Creality will issue a new longer cable so people will have the option to move it to the side, which will make it much more convenient
JL has said that you can use the Bambu ones, I’d expect Creailty to also produce something
I been waiting for this now I know its ok to pull the trigger on getting one.
Thanks Sam, balanced as always. Its always an 'exciting' learning curve with new Creality printers. Im starting to look forward to getting my teeth into this one.
My pleasure!
Great review, bro. FYI, If you happen to have the longer cables that come with the Bambu Lab multi-AMS Hub kit... they work, and will effectively extend the CFS to 1.5 meters or more, I thin kit is. Mine is on a shelf above the printer now ;)
Ah that’s good to know, Creailty told me that 100% I should not try that !!
Nice! Thanks for that pro-tip.
@@TheRealSamPrentice Bro, it's not compatible, pls don't take risks.
@@3DPrintSOS Bro, it's not compatible, pls don't take risks.
@@crusader-hcq how do you know? @thenextlayer has it running?
How effective is the filtration at reducing the smell of ABS and ASA?
Great review and I am super jelly! 💯🔥
@@HLModTech hey thank you !!
Great video Sam, keep up the great work.
Even the Jar Jar print post firmware upgrade has very prominent z-banding artifacts.
Annoyingly there was a further update, but I believe that’s part of the model on the clothing, and scaling up
you can really see it well were the arms are cut off. it would drive me nuts. that alone makes me want to hold off on ordering it. be nice to see normal production units too.
I see you have a couple of Prusa XLs in the background there. How would you compare the two?
k2 plus + diamondback = very awesome 👍
The CFS sounds like the winch on my friends truck!
HAHAHA uncle jessy clip never gets old!!
Dam right, I have to pay him $5 each time someone watches it too
That Peopoly square in the middle of the video the entire duration has me excited lol.
You and me both! Its being filmed as I type!
@@TheRealSamPrentice Heecckk yeah, realised i didn't sub but definitely want to see your thoughts on that. Soon tm?
@TheNerdArmory I’ve shot a fair amount already just concentrating on prints and print quality at the moment. I will say this release, which is the public release seems to work really well ! They’re just sending me an enclosure kit too
I wish creality would offer a full line of replacement parts for their machines.
They do.
Probably not for the K2 yet though since its brand new.
Cant wait to get mine 🤘
Lowers here we come!!! :)
Those PPS-CF parts looked incredible. With multi-color printing in a heated enclosed chamber, maybe ABS will make a comeback despite the stinky smell, if there is a good vapor smoothing post process appliance that can vapor smooth an entire build platform. Multi-color structural parts is a trick that injection molding can't do. My application for multi-filament printing isn't color, it's printing parts in ABS and TPU, but TPU doesn't feed from the CFS.
@@Liberty4Ever the pps stuff is NUTS but I did have to change out the nozzle 220 vs 315 for heat does leave some remnants behind.
@@TheRealSamPrentice - Maybe create a disposable part that cleans the nozzle by printing a material like ABS at higher than normal temperature when switching back from glass or carbon filled high temperature engineering materials to PLA/PETG/ABS? Having the CFS to swap filaments and leaving the nozzle cleaning part in the printer's memory would make that fairly fast.
good video as always, but could you maybe get a little more under the skin on how easy it is when the belt needs to be changed and the bearings are easier to change without having to completely separate it. how the belt tension is designed, whether they can be individually tightened, just like how the bed z movement is designed. is it the one with full open klipper or is it still their own version, you don't mention grace about in the video.
Grace ? So it’s the same as the K1 so it is open, but it’s not exclusive. On the belt side they will of course stretch over time but the setup should warn you when you need to do that, at the moment I’m just chucking prints at it and seeing what breaks
thanks sam looking like it will be worth the wait
Hope so! It’s a cracker
Thanks for the video Sam. I'm having a lot of concerns with the printer. Even your Jar Jar looked pretty bad and you said you were happy with it.
I'm seeing similar issues from other reviews as well including:
Too tightly rewinding in the CFS.
Issues using cardboard spool.
Bad quality prints/layer lines/shifts
Unable to use PLA Silk in the CFS
Difficulty with jams
Issues with color shifts
Etc
I have one on pre-order and I'm experiencing a certain level of anxiety that it's going to be a nightmare, poor quality prints, and a waste of money.
I'm getting stellar prints from my A1/AMS lite combo and was really hoping that this was going to be an issue free machine with high quality prints rivaling the A1 & X1C out of the box. It doesn't sound like it so far.
Maybe you or others here can ease my mind a bit, or confirm my reservations.
I got you, I was happy with the jar jar print, you have to remember that’s also called from a 3 inch file, but from a file that I will paint I am happy.
The CFS is loud, but I’ve not had any crazy jams, plus the bottom of the cfs has easy access to clear any blocks.
The profiles do need tuning, and it’s NOT an x1c out of the box. The belt tensioner has had some issues and if that’s not “right” you will get some quality issues and potentially some movements on the color changer.
Was K2 a kickstarter?
No the wording was “kickstarter style launch” so Creailty offered 200 units at 50% off then x at 40/30/20 and so on. It was a mess
@@TheRealSamPrenticeoh my bad. Was to hyped to listed fully. Still watching right now!
I was gunna say, I never saw the kickstarter campaign for it 😅 yes I remember the 50% off release fun
@DSPrints_ fun is a word… not sure id use it tho lol
@@TheRealSamPrenticesorry while your here at 17:10 you showed fluid access with of course :4408
Is that already available straight away? As of course the K1’s we had to root and install proper Klipper & interfaces such as fluid or mainsail
@DSPrints_ yep it’s straight into it
Daft question but what are the death racer parts? They looked like machine parts to me, great video. thank you
Not daft at all, they are an rc battle bot that I also am part of, if you have a look on the channel you’ll see them there
@TheRealSamPrentice subscribed!
It would be nice for them to add profiles for other filaments. I have a bunch of projects I need to print in abs but their choice of black, white, and gray leaves alot to desired for color choice... Don't get me wrong. Their hyper abs prints ( for what I have printed so far ) perfectly. I just would like a larger variety and I don't understand the tweaking of the slicer settings.. yet.. I'm learning.. Just need to find someone that can teach me. (I can't ask questions to a video.. well.. I could but .. lol.) Love the K1 max. Can't wait to get my K2 Plus!
Have you tried putting the CFS hub onto the back of the CFS? I have it on mine.. and sits perfectly on the side...
I posted a picture on the Creality discord..
Yeah I saw that, and no I haven’t, Creailty very much made me cram for this review, I’m happy with it but would have been happier with the extra time they ended up giving. I did see the post as it happens and I’ll give it a go
Did you try printing multicolor at lower layer heights? I have seen another review where there were issues with printing multi-color at lower than 0.2mm layers.
I didnt, but I can sure try it out.
@@TheRealSamPrentice That would be great. If it really is an issue then it's a pretty big deal for a lot of people.
Do you have any insight into the production run CFS cable and PTFE tube lengths? Will they be longer than what you received on the preview model? Their own marketing images has the CFS unit set to the side (I am referring to the shot of the four units, two each side somehow stacked with a shelf or frame) so I'd be pretty peeved if I paid Creality $2400 and I couldn't use all 4 CFS units at once...
Okay so you can move the hub one of the cfs systems and that will solve the issue.
The layer seems to be bad... The change is very visible. Unfortunately this is not the quality I was expected.
Hope they will manage to have a good quality print,and not a waste of filament. Clean layer is the most important thing, and Creality is very bad in it.
Well, to answer the question posed in the title, does the K2 Plus offer greater utility than three Bambu A1's with AMS Lite, because that is an equal price comparison. Obviously, for certain use cases, the answer is "yes". Exotic filaments and large-format multi-color prints are two of those use cases, but it seems to me that the vast majority of people would be better served by three A1's, or more accurately one A1 for 1/3 the price. I don't think anyone can call the K2 Plus a "value" printer with a straight face other than those who got a freebie or were lucky enough to get a deeply discounted one.
Am I mad that I didn't get an early bird model? Yes. That was a marketing debacle because my perspective now, like most people, is that I have to pay 80% more to get the printer. I was there, I was willing, but I couldn't get the price. Balls. So now I am in no hurry to get it, and if the Bambu large-format is released before I buy the Creality during a sale, I'll get that instead.
You can get a Prusa XL this week and it’s a little bigger too.
Did you have to "Root" the K2 to run klipper on it or did you really just SSH into it and klipper and all the macros/mainsail were already there?? Im new to klipper so not sure the protocal/steps to ve able to troubleshoot like you did
Thanks for the video and for calling out the original presale hiccups and current delays. Can't wait for my delivery!
Yeah so it was pre rooted as in you can root it the same as the current k1 / max
Really good job Nice done sam
Thank you !
2:56 350mm²❌ 350mm³✅
Hey Sam have you connected the cfs to any of your k1"s yet
From what I hear you might not be able to.
@ software or hardware related
@@primus1873 3rd party related on all accounts.
Thank you!
How K2 looks compared to QIDI plus4 (assuming thst srs issiue is fixed). Based on other reviews, i have some mixed feelings about print quality. Are they compsrable, or do we have the winner here?
@@mariuszzielinski2009 so the two main areas are going to be around firmware and your print profile, so dialling things in, slowing down on parts and I don’t rate the part cooling at the moment.. so slower for quality IMO
@@mariuszzielinski2009 QIDI won’t work with me as on the 3max I pointed out lots of flaws on the end they paid me not to put a video and instead paid me for r&d which they then didn’t fix.. shady shady company.
@TheRealSamPrentice, so what could I buy at a reasonable price with a little bigger volume than bamu? Is that just K2 or something else or should I wait for new bambu 2025? As everyone, I just need enclosed all in one machine multicolor capable with good quality and speed. (Nothing special... I know :)
@mariuszzielinski2009 Prusa XL
something cheaper than Prusa XL?
Banding still seems to be present in the closeups
Great video Sam and great job on following instructions too. Surely it won’t put into your viewership because of the wait either. 👌🏾
It’s a mute point to say the least. Keep
Your eyes peeled for what happens next.
The ordering process is confusing. The official Creality UK site states that is ships between 2-5 business days and that there are 33 available but pre-orders will start to be shipped on the 10th of next month. I have asked them which is which and whether it's worth cancelling my pre-order and buying again so that I can get it sooner. I don't expect a useful answer but would like to be pleasantly surprised.
Thats weird, which site? and via my link?
@@TheRealSamPrentice I ordered it from CrealityUKOfficial about a month ago, not via the link. I needed a larger bed for a project that's currently on hold and I'm completely in the dark as to when the printer will be shipped. I'm seriously considering cancelling the order and getting another large bed machine (that actually exists!) 🙂
Get your money back that’s not creality mate
Thanks, I have requested a cancellation of the order (and I paid via Paypal so I should be pretty safe)
Great the “official” site is anything but.. they are a shady reseller so you’re best off not buying through them
6:31 Can you really only use Creality fillament on the K2!?
No and I didnt say that.. I said for RFID..
@@TheRealSamPrentice OK, got it, thanks
16:43 wdym? You can't manually set nozzle temp on the machine's screen?
At the time you couldn’t feed, they just updated it
Just bought 🙂
So it is a Kidi Xmax3 with a filament managment system.
And without the fires
@@TheRealSamPrentice Only time will tell...
No fires this month
One question what would you get an sermoon d3 at two third of the k2 plus or half if i get the filament addon or k2 with or without the addon?
Well that’s a great question, and the k2 would be my answer !
@@TheRealSamPrentice thanks
Very appropriate use of Vsauce
We can thank my editor
So its like the TEMU version of the X1C
Its a Great Machine but Best Value at the Current Price Far from it.
Let’s go! Top 5?
I have real bags and a lot of them. I have a friend who buys the kislux we put them side by side and guess what ?! Itâs unbelievable!!! I am at the Chanel boutique with her and no one can tell she has a fake
whats going on with that magneto ?
Hahaha it’s out of the box and loving life !
In all honesty, those prints don't look that great. Hopefully that can be rectified.
Um 350 cubed?
no 350x350x350 thats the size, lets not try and be clever..
But can it run crysis?... äh I mean can it run tpu through the cfs??
In general the prints just don't look great think I will wait till they remove all the bugs
So it's just a larger p1s
It’s not tho is it..
yes I still work for creality. they would obviously give me more jobs if I make their stock tank and loose them lots of money. lol
Sounds real
hoping to get the printer for Christmas but what i need to know is where can i get the print file for the GARGOYLE?
Jar Jar Binks. How dare you? The printer will definitely have become more stupid. Nice review!
It is darth jar jar if that helps
Good save. It was a stroke of genius that you selected the creality vader black filament.
Yes with undertones of something something Darkside
2:55 its not 350 squared...its 350 cubed haha
Hahahahhahahaha
It's nice done sam realy good I hope iam 1 of the 10 i hope
JarJar...unliked
Oi it’s darth jar jar. That’s 50 points
Grid infill, ewwww. Gyroid bois, gyrroiddd XD
Are they making a smaller version, don't need 350mm
I would certainly guess so
Yeah seeing this is a "plus" I'd imagine a standard version is coming.
Seeing they didn't use the "MAX" name from the K1 I wonder if that means theres a max coming too.
Would be weird to put that nomenclature away after 1 model.
@ yeah weird naming is pretty stock
N after e is f and please put Ing ways.
😫😫😫😫😫
What?
It's creality, so it's still trash, I have 3, did have 4 until I sent the k1 back, arrived inoperable, hotend issue, another 3v2, sensor issue, another with a constant problem with this or that, don't order trash to save money pay another $100-200 get a bambu and never have a problem again. If you like working/fixing on 3d printers vs using 3d printers stay with creality.
Come on, at least use real user accounts! Caught another troll account spreading negativity.
@@crusader-hcq Oh I'd agree. If Bambu lab wasn't closed and I could use Octoprint on it, I'd 100% consider that. Considering I can do that with Creality, I'm more likely to purchase a k2+ because I'll actually be able to use it with my computer rather than fiddle about with a less than needed touchscreen.
OMG, That is one huge printer. they went for 4 spools instead of 5?? That is weird
If you want to buy a 3D printer better get one before Trump gets into the White House. I think we're going to see some see more tariffs on anything Chinese.
I’ll be okay, I’m British
First
3 more inches !!
@TheRealSamPrentice lol
Noice.
Yeah my face!
WHERER DID YOU GET THE RACKING FROM UK