Switchglass vs Smart Tint
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The glass is not completely transparent when switched on. For those believing the untinted mode will result in a glass-like appearance you may be disappointed. We installed this glass in our commercial building and although it has been received well overall, many have commented that the transparent mode is casts a 'smokey' hue and is not clear enough. Interested buyers should take this into account before purchasing and go visit the glass in action if they can find a showroom near them. Also the glass was very expensive relative to regular glass. 5 partitioned glass panels totaling 14 feet by 9 feet clocked in a 18k, with the rest of the cost going to the local distributor for installation. Finally, one of the glass pieces has a strange defect on the edge towards the bottom, it looks like a problem at the point of manufacturing that slipped through quality control. Not enough to complain about, but still there. On a scale of 1 to 10, I give this glass about a 6.5-7 rating.
Hi Eugene,
You are correct the glass is not completely transparent when switched on and we completely agree it is wise when purchasing any product that potential customers view a sample first.
There are a number of factors that will make a fairly big difference in how the Switchglass presents.
All glass, under certain light conditions, will reflect images and at times be difficult to see through clearly. This will sometimes be more obvious when the glass is viewed from an angle. The same applies to your Switchable Privacy Glass panels.
Additionally, the PDLC film within its PVB layers in this laminated glass product manifests a slight haze in its ‘on’ state, and more so when viewed at an angle.
See an example of pictures linked below here:
www.linkedin.com/pulse/switchglass-clarity-lighting-roman-watkins/
To minimise this effect and to get the best out of your product, it is important that you, your Architect or Designer should consider the ambient and/or artificial lighting adjacent to the panels prior to its installation.
What may improve your situation Eugene is to try to balance the lighting from each side of the privacy glass so they are as even as possible. Also, any highly reflective surfaces like tiled flooring are not recommended as they can reflect the light into the glass and increase the haze. Lastly, ensure that lights are not positioned directly above the glass. With regard to measuring light, you can download a free app on your device which you may find helpful. I carried out this test and measured internal levels at 400 lumens and the external at over 10x of this which will not favour improving the haze levels.
Please let me know if you have any other questions.
Regards Roman Watkins
I’m also looking to use such a glass in my design. That tint/haze is quite noticeable in videos, I wonder if different glasses have different haze? I wonder should I wait year or two until better glass is developed...
@@Switchglass great reply and very informative from you and the poster you're replying to. We've been looking into those glass and will more than likely go with it instead of traditional tint or a retrofit for smart tint.
what kind of glass you give 10/10 mate??
@@chrispap5939 Clear and durable one.
Wow, business selling product doesn't recommend its rivals! Amazing revelation.
😂 😂 😂 😂
Was @Migro on youtube. He recomends and reviews grow light.
LMAO
I have smarttint and it works just fine in my home. I’d recommend it!
so do don't recommend retro fitting for the smart tin, yet it is made for that exact purpose?
I wanted to add my opinion. We manufacture a Smart Film in Canada that we laminate in Glass as well as apply to existing glass. There is no difference in performance or specification of our film. The only difference is the adhesive layer. Our Smart Film has one of the highest VLT 85% and low haze of less than 5%. One of the biggest differences between our film and the other top brands is we have a UL status on our film. This means we have recognized by a 3rd party as safe for sales in North America. Most competition are selling electrical products not tested to be sold in North America.
@Smartfilm Careful! Should be... have BEEN recognised, or use ARE recognised. Important when advertising to use good English and check it. :)
@@asparx3748 Says the person who is unable to spell recognized.
@@jcbryant6 That is the British/UK spelling of recognized. They use ised while North Americans use ized. Not incorrect spelling.
70 or 85% it's not as big of an issue once you look straight through and that's how its measured - but once you view it from the angle - the haze would dramatically increase - which is huge visual issue I think.
I really want to be able to accept any of the information provided; but the degree of hardselling involved makes this sound like wank.
Hi CCru, sorry you found this to be too much hard selling for you. We'll take your feedback onboard and work to improve this in our future videos. To be honest, that was not my intention, having just come back from the customer's business where he had experienced the failure of the Smart Tint I just set up the camera and explained in the best way about the different products available.
I don't know if its the same company but I recently visited the Acute ward at St. Micheal's hospital in downtown Toronto where all the doors to the rooms had this type of glass. I asked one of the nurses and she said they've had it for 15 years with no problems.
Also the bashing of the competition is not only unwarranted but unfair.
Smart tint is a film that is applied on your existing Glass and this product is bought with the glass,they are 2 different applications.
Also they are way diferent in price, something this company does not mention at all. Yes this film is better but it is better because you buy it in the glass and you pay way more.
Hi CoolRaul, you bring up a valid point about the cost. The customer was quoted the same as it would have been for our glass, allowing for installation. So we would have supplied a fully complete laminated Switchglass product and Smart Tint would supply a tint film only. If you are unsure please see comments from one of their customers who commented on another one of our youtube clips about their experience with Smart Tint. We are not alone in our views, please see the comments below and link for your reference.
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I wish I had tried Switchglass instead of Smart Tint. Smart Tint was great and responsive in order to make the sale. Then when I experienced an issue and reached out for some assistance on troubleshooting, I received a terrible response. They accidentally left an internal email from John Adams in their response to me which directed the person who seemed willing to provide some sort of assistance "don't waste time with this guy" "if he likes he can purchase engineering time at 350 per hour" with a 2 hour minimum.
And then they stopped responding to me.
Smart Tint is the worst company I have personally dealt with for customer service in MANY years. It doesn't matter how good a product is if they don't stand behind it.
Updated comments CCru
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2 weeks ago
I wish I had tried Switchglass instead of Smart Tint. Smart Tint was great and responsive in order to make the sale. Then when I experienced an issue and reached out for some assistance on troubleshooting, I received a terrible response. They accidentally left an internal email from John Adams in their response to me which directed the person who seemed willing to provide some sort of assistance "don't waste time with this guy" "if he likes he can purchase engineering time at 350 per hour" with a 2 hour minimum.
And then they stopped responding to me.
Smart Tint is the worst company I have personally dealt with for customer service in MANY years. It doesn't matter how good a product is if they don't stand behind it.
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gel or a wash type feature to have work ...
This is a completly different installation than Smart Tint, I am unrelated to smart tint but IMO, I don't think I would shop with a company who is dissing its competitors who operate with a completely different business model. You are not tint, you are glass. You create glass panes with a smart tint like product laminated in between. No sh** SwitchGlass doesn't bubble, and smart tint does. I'd imagine your installation costs are ATLEAST 5x higher than smart tint. For most people's budget smart tint is a substantially better product and does the exact same thing for a fraction the price. Looking it up, I was right on the money. Average cost for your product is $140 per sq ft, and average cost for most tint applications is $20-40 per sq ft. Not to mention the much higher installation costs and different applications. I'd imagine the cost of a curved glass installation would be astronomical compared to just wrapping the tint around a curve. This product makes sense for someone remodeling, or adding windows into an office or home space, but don't sell this product as what it's not as Switchglass and Smart Tint fill two completely different roles in the same market.
Well said
I want glass that can switch from clear to black. Does that exist?
does the default state of this glass opaque or transparent (i mean without electricity)
It's opaque when it's off
Very informative video thank you.
Is it possible to watch movies through this glass?
Can I buy this in the USA. Great product.
I've been told it needs power continual and only mists when power cut off and they don't last long.... Is this true (like I'll get any real truth) as I was seriously interested for my own private home
yes they need constant power to remains opaque
What about applying that smart tint and then a window film over that? I’d like to install it on a car
Hi Jose, the problem is that if any moisture is used to apply a window film over it then it will accelerate the deterioration of the PDLC film.
I use Smart Tint, which is a Chinese company and I've been happy with it.
Hi Al,
Glad that you have had a good experience, could you share more details on how you've used it, please. Things like if you are using it in a commercial application, external or internal, did you fit it yourself, how long have you been using it. I would be great to have more information.
Thank you
Will 1 remote sưitch Controller work for all glasses installed?
Hi Lena, not sure what the controller you are asking about but the mechanism similar to a light switch. So I would say yes, if you link the website that these are avaiable on I'll have a look.
@@Switchglass was your spelling of "sưitch" intentionally made to troll people into thinking there's dirt on their monitor? if so, congrats, it worked.
If you could offer me a 10% effiencient solar glass with the smart tint/glass feature (a bit of upstream integrating of products) then I'd be interested. Honestly giving me a switchable near clear, privacy frosted/glaze and dark is optimal. Maybe you can only get solar and tint but as an engineer I love feature heavy products
Thanks John, this would be great and some of this is already possible by ways of us using different solar and low e glass in the makeup of our finished glass units.
So if a client already has glass installed, I need to tell them to take it out and install this glass? Doesn't seem very economically feasible. A typical tint, customers are use to, is beneficial for both the installers and customer.
Hi Gareth, thanks for your comment, yes you are correct if it is a retrofit scenario then the original glass would need to be removed and replaced with Switchglass. I understand that this may not be the most economical or feasible option but it is the most reliable. Ideally, if it is completed from the initial construction of the build then it would be more cost-effective. Most of our work is in the new fit-out space however in some cases people will have Switchglass retrofitted latter.
Sir we keeping smart film on the house glass but after some days the guy send me a video the smart film not work I go and check the power is okey but film is not work what is reason and solution in that case sir ???
Did you find a solution for this, who supplier you with the Smart film?
Are these available in a black tint, and not just in white?
Hi Lars,
We can customise the colour to black tint for you, the Switchable interlayer remains the same however we can use a number of methods to create the black finish.
Thanks for your question
We are able to customise any colour
Can I build a shower enclosure with this glass? How much USD per square foot?
Hi Ciprian,
For such use Switchable Privacy Glass panel/panels need to be completely fully framed, sealed and the edges impervious to water. The glass panel must be sealed into the frame to protect the glass panel's edges from ANY moisture. Where silicone is used, use only the recommended NON ACETIC silicones.
In terms of a USD per square foot price for Switchglass/Smart Glass, there are a number of things that we need to know for example:
Is it to be glazed internally or externally and will it be subjected to direct sunlight?
The glass dimensions and quantities for your particular project?
Where is it to be delivered to (e.g. State and Country)?
When do you require the Switchglass?
*Note if you are a trade customer the pricing may also be different
To an exact quotation, please email us on usa@switchglass.com.au
Our Switchglass is produced locally in Anaheim, CA 92806
Thank you for your interest in Switchglass
is it possible to make it see trou from the one side ? and the other is a tint ?
Yes, we have been able to create a mirror style from one side although it is important to get the lighting correct.
@@Switchglass what about this idea, you create a glas that turns on when the light in the room is off but you still can see throu the window from the inside but from the outside it looks like the light is on. So my idea is to create glass that makes people think the whole house is turn on so from the outside it looks like all rooms are lit but they not to create the nice look like on pictures
This is a great idea for home security. You could put them on schedules and avoid using lights to do the same thing when you're out of town.
you would be an instant billionaire if someone came out with that product
Cost?
That’s nice 😊
how about dark black tint instead of white?
Won't be very clear when the tint is off. The white isn't 100% clear, and has a Smokey hue when off. So the black would be even more so
thanks
1990's technology now finally becoming more popular?
Charlie Vetsworth why need at least a decade?
tint ur glass and tilt yo cupss ..
Did this thing discover 23 years ago?
I wish I did but no we did not :)
I'm from the Philippines and I would like to introduce it here in our market how can I avail your product?
We sell worldwide please feel free to reachout to us via our website, thank you
I'd much rather have tint than frost
It would be great if you could put sud title in spanish
Totally agree, I will look into if it is possible.
1:24 so you're saying this has been around for over 20 years huh lol
Thanks for watching our video, yes actually been in business for 27 years.
ehh still not like tint which allows you to still see out
I thought his name was Rowan Atkinson
what about the price ??
Hi Mark,
Regarding your question on price, on this occasion with the cost was similar to the #Smartfilm. Note that we are based locally so there was no freight cost whereas the #Smartfilm was sent from the US to Australia. Unfortunately for the client with the removal and replacement, it was nearly double what it would have cost if we had completed the job from the begining.
Regards Roman Watkins
@@Switchglass OK so how much was that looking for a dollar amount
What's estimated cost per SF in USD?
I am sure there is SOME truth, but this is a shameful display of bashing the competition.
There's a reason why this is not a successful form of advertising. It sends people like me to the other guys.
Didn't know about smart tint, but I will look into it now.
Its what I use. As long as you prep the surface, rid of any dust and debris, lay it straight the first time, and seal it off on the sides, smart tint won't deteriorate. Shoddy installation is the problem, not the product.
Hi Alex, maybe you can share your experience with the other guys. Feel free to post the link for others to see.
Any automotive application?
Hi Kern, we do not recommend it for automotive applications as it ideally needs to be double glazed which would be difficult to achieve but not impossible in a vehicle. Some companies retrofit film in a similar way to tinting onto the existing glass but we have found this to be problematic and unreliable.
Thank you
What’s the cost difference, if you’re going to slate a product and a company at least be honest with the prices
For this particular project taking in consideration freight and installation the cost was the same.
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Same here 😂
Honestly, you could have at least properly installed the film...
Make it fade
Yes totally possible
I mean it's cool but I don't want to buy it cuz they just slag off the competition the whole time
Huh? Trying sooo hard to dis the competition by lying is a bad look …Window film traps dust and debris? K.That’s happened never.
All you said was the bad things about your competition... how about lay off the smear tactics and tell us why your product is so good, not why theirs is so bad
Hi applesauce,
Thank you for your feedback, I would not normally do videos like this however I felt very strongly after an Australian charity was left high and dry without any support.
It also seems that they are not the only ones that have experienced similar issues and after posting this video there has been healthy discussion and debate which I encourage.
You'll notice that I have not modified and or deleted anyone comments since the original post which shows that we welcome all feedback.
Regards
"At switchglass, we don't recommend customers to not buy switchglass" well yeah obviously
ah wow, instead of an easy solution, replace all your windows!!!!
So when it fails, you need a 100% replacement. Crap engineering. unserviceable. VERY expensive with labor costs. Film is replaceable my amateurs and 1/30th of the price installed
Less talking and more showing. Sorry Im not trying to be rude. But I have dreamt of this before and didnt even know it actually existed.I want and estimate because I am in the process of building on my raw land.
Hi Jennifer, you can get an estimate from our website www.switchglass.com.au/application/residential/#online_estimator
New reply on "With over 12,000 clients including NASA, Disney, Microsoft, Boeing, Airbus, Countless others and 3,000,000 sq. ft and growing of material installed world wide it is clear that Genuine Smart Tint is an amazing product. Unfortunately their are 3rd party aftermarket knock off companies and unscrupulous online imitations everywhere. So we recommend to ask for our Certificate of Authenticity provided with every order and our industry leading 5 year warranty. Read our Blog and let it speak for any information concerning our amazing technology at shop.smarttint.com/blog.asp . SMART TINT IS ONLY AVAILABLE FACTORY DIRECT or through one of our AUTHORIZED PROVIDERS. The gentleman in this video is NEITHER AND NOT A CUSTOMER OR AN AUTHORIZED PROVIDER."
Hi Smart Tint,
While in my opinion, it is a bit cheeky to pitch your products here, maybe to help our audience you can give us some feedback on what went wrong with the projects listed below.
Seems you left and Australian charity high and dry without any support.
You also accidentally sent an internal email from John Adams which directed your sales team to respond "don't waste time with this guy" "if he likes he can purchase engineering time at 350 per hour" with a 2-hour minimum. You then stopped responding?
Email Below:
Wednesday, 21 December 2016 4:03 PM
Hi Kristen,
As discussed we have a situation where we used the Smart-tint (from the USA) electronic glazing film on our client's Boardroom with less than impressive results.
The supplier will not replace the product which has left us in a sticky situation and an unhappy client.The client is a registered Aboriginal Charity (Thalanyji www.thalanyji.com.au/ )
Would you be able to provide a quotation to supply & install your most economical system (5 x 5mm glass with switchable film?) to the dimensions shown on the attached?
We would appreciate if you & your management could offer a discounted price to achieve this.
Here's another one for your comment:
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I wish I had tried Switchglass instead of Smart Tint. Smart Tint was great and responsive in order to make the sale. Then when I experienced an issue and reached out for some assistance on troubleshooting, I received a terrible response. They accidentally left an internal email from John Adams in their response to me which directed the person who seemed willing to provide some sort of assistance "don't waste time with this guy" "if he likes he can purchase engineering time at 350 per hour" with a 2 hour minimum. And then they stopped responding to me. Smart Tint is the worst company I have personally dealt with for customer service in MANY years. It doesn't matter how good a product is if they don't stand behind it.
There's a lot of bullshit in your video. First off, the clarity of the film is NOT related to the point of installation. Whether it's laminated at time of glazing manufacturer, or retrofitted will have no impact on clarity.
Second, retrofitting glass vs. buying new glass/removing existing/installing new is a HUGE difference financially. Retrofitting smart film requires GOOD installation techniques and methods. Obtaining a dust/contamination free install is the job of a good installer.