This was a very interesting deep dive into the latest OTF technology. LMK what’s on your mind. Are you looking to update to this style once the production model comes out?
Wonder how long before wear is seen on the channel? That is very impressive design. I love seeing how things work. It helps to demystify things. Thank you ill never own one so this is the only way I'd see how it works.
@ I just ordered my first OTF - Microtech combat troodon. I need to rewatch some of your videos…get familiar with the inner workings. I’ll be curious what the blade play is on that model. Have a great week.
@ So, the blade play isn’t a big deal from the practical point of view. In fact, if not properly designed, that may lead to more disadvantages than advantages. I will be following up with a torture test video soon and will cover the topic there.
@windowbreezes thanks for the recommendation! I watched his video and it reminded me of how the very early semiauto pistols were designed. Super steam punk! It’s like Luger vs. Glock.
Not only ingeniously simple, but I love the look of that giant secret torx "UFO" in the blade. Looking forward to the video putting it to the test. On a somewhat related note, I picked up an 08/24 build date MSI and Microtech seems to have further updated the lock geometry. The previous iterations had a small ramp cut into the bottom and center of the ram-lok like an upside-down canoe. The ram-lok on mine however has no underside ramp like you showed in your previous videos, and I'm guessing it's because they finally updated the geometry of the locking surface on the blade tang like it needed from the beginning IMO. Lock up is like a bank on my example.
@@R1NR4N Thanks for info on the MSI, after Tony Marfione sent me a personal letter of appreciation for discovering the issue and his humble apology for not recalling the deficient design…. Yeah, right 🤣😂🤣 I bought an aluminum version and it has the change you discovered. I think I mentioned it in a video.
my only issue is they copied the track system from the deadlock but used the locking tabs instead, so it wasn't a complete copy. i was hoping Microtech would invent their own system.
@ all these mechanical interfaces and locking systems exist in firearms, metal cutting equipment, bicycles, and locomotives for at least 120 years. So anything we see as “new” in knives is an adaptation anyway.
@CuttingBoardRx im my opinion this would be like Glock saying they were innovative for using the tilting barrel without paying any tribute to who designed the system. idc that theu are using it but i wish they were honest on who they go the design from.
@@HappyWifeHappyKnife Well, every modern pistol is based on one or more of John Browning’s design solutions. For that matter, we could go all the way back to Archimedes and say all drill bits, steam engines and, oh yeah, OTF autos should be credited to him! Because he designed some siege engines that were used for hundreds of years?
Thanks for the disassembly. Clever solution. I like to put graphite on all the bearing/sliding surfaces of OTFs because I don’t think it adds drag like other lubricants. Do you think the clamshell body could flex enough under twist or impact that it could slip from behind those retaining screws it captures (it seems like such little movement to grab them it seems hard to imagine there is much material there)? Thanks for the video, CBRx.
@@erinsquirkychannel501 Waiting for the Ultratech with the same lock that is coming out next week. Already have one reserved for me at a local dealer as they are guaranteed to sell out! It’s more “affordable” at $380…
The pin sliding in the groove to achieve zero blade play is a copy of the Hawk Knife Deadlock solution. How is this possible when their patent is valid until 2036?
@@mgm562 Hawk patented the locking system where the locking tabs are mounted on the blade. Groove and pin interface existed since the Pyramids, can’t be patented. I’m surprised they got even that through the Patented Office.
@@pandamacska I think there could be more texturing on the sides, but overall it doesn’t feel cheap. The sides are slightly contoured towards the spines, which may be a first one for them.
If you insist on being that technical, taper is a measure of a conical slope while bevel is a term applied to linear components. So, in this case, the UFO has a taper, while the channel has a bevel. This particular bevel has a slope that matches the taper. I do appreciate the hair splitting in terminology and wish to thank you for the comment!
I really don't understand why anyone would buy this. The price is outrageous. Considering they are coming out with a no play ultratech for basically the same price as the old one.
@SteppingR The newest gen micro techs are really smooth. I have a first gen combat troodon. I hate it lol. My buddy has a newer one. It's night and day different.
This was a very interesting deep dive into the latest OTF technology. LMK what’s on your mind. Are you looking to update to this style once the production model comes out?
What a fun thumbnail!
And no AI… Thanks!
Thumbnails are gorgeous on this channel indeed
man I can't wait for your torture test of this new mechanism! 👊🏽
@@whodemiz583 already done. Working on editing the footage into a video. Thanks for subscribing!
@@CuttingBoardRx I just hope it does well because I'd really like to get a microtech with this mechanism in the future 😁
Great job! Very interesting.
Thanks for taking the time to do this brother. Excellent as always
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Fantastic break down! My inner knife geek loves this.
Wonder how long before wear is seen on the channel?
That is very impressive design. I love seeing how things work. It helps to demystify things.
Thank you ill never own one so this is the only way I'd see how it works.
Awesome video. Very interesting
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A very informative video 👍 Thank you 🙂
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That was some great information…I was curious how that no play was done. Thank you for all you do.
@@kelloggcd Glad you enjoyed it! BTW Curiosity! That was my excuse to buy a new limited edition Microtech! 🤣
@ I just ordered my first OTF - Microtech combat troodon. I need to rewatch some of your videos…get familiar with the inner workings. I’ll be curious what the blade play is on that model. Have a great week.
@ So, the blade play isn’t a big deal from the practical point of view. In fact, if not properly designed, that may lead to more disadvantages than advantages. I will be following up with a torture test video soon and will cover the topic there.
Look up Grant and Gavin Hawk Deadlock OTF
@windowbreezes thanks for the recommendation! I watched his video and it reminded me of how the very early semiauto pistols were designed. Super steam punk! It’s like Luger vs. Glock.
Not only ingeniously simple, but I love the look of that giant secret torx "UFO" in the blade. Looking forward to the video putting it to the test.
On a somewhat related note, I picked up an 08/24 build date MSI and Microtech seems to have further updated the lock geometry. The previous iterations had a small ramp cut into the bottom and center of the ram-lok like an upside-down canoe. The ram-lok on mine however has no underside ramp like you showed in your previous videos, and I'm guessing it's because they finally updated the geometry of the locking surface on the blade tang like it needed from the beginning IMO. Lock up is like a bank on my example.
@@R1NR4N Thanks for info on the MSI, after Tony Marfione sent me a personal letter of appreciation for discovering the issue and his humble apology for not recalling the deficient design…. Yeah, right 🤣😂🤣
I bought an aluminum version and it has the change you discovered. I think I mentioned it in a video.
Very nice teacher! I’ll bring you an apple 🍎 completely enjoyed that. Always ask why!
Very interesting!
Interesting design, entertaining video!
@@mel87123 I wonder how many were they able to sell…
knife lenin is excited!
Thanks for the detailed information
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I was curious to see how microtech did it, glad to see they didn’t just rip off the mechanism from the G&G hawk deadlock.
@@alexp974 Nope, they didn’t. It’s like comparing G41 to M1 Garand. Or C96 to FN Five Seven. Totally different action!
my only issue is they copied the track system from the deadlock but used the locking tabs instead, so it wasn't a complete copy. i was hoping Microtech would invent their own system.
@ all these mechanical interfaces and locking systems exist in firearms, metal cutting equipment, bicycles, and locomotives for at least 120 years. So anything we see as “new” in knives is an adaptation anyway.
@CuttingBoardRx im my opinion this would be like Glock saying they were innovative for using the tilting barrel without paying any tribute to who designed the system. idc that theu are using it but i wish they were honest on who they go the design from.
@@HappyWifeHappyKnife Well, every modern pistol is based on one or more of John Browning’s design solutions. For that matter, we could go all the way back to Archimedes and say all drill bits, steam engines and, oh yeah, OTF autos should be credited to him! Because he designed some siege engines that were used for hundreds of years?
Thanks for the disassembly. Clever solution. I like to put graphite on all the bearing/sliding surfaces of OTFs because I don’t think it adds drag like other lubricants.
Do you think the clamshell body could flex enough under twist or impact that it could slip from behind those retaining screws it captures (it seems like such little movement to grab them it seems hard to imagine there is much material there)?
Thanks for the video, CBRx.
Do the water sand test on it and torture test please
@@erinsquirkychannel501 Waiting for the Ultratech with the same lock that is coming out next week. Already have one reserved for me at a local dealer as they are guaranteed to sell out! It’s more “affordable” at $380…
Doesn't it remind you?
look at the - G&G Hawk Deadlock Model C
i wait 4 a UT 3 :D
The pin sliding in the groove to achieve zero blade play is a copy of the Hawk Knife Deadlock solution. How is this possible when their patent is valid until 2036?
@@mgm562 Hawk patented the locking system where the locking tabs are mounted on the blade. Groove and pin interface existed since the Pyramids, can’t be patented. I’m surprised they got even that through the Patented Office.
Very clever mechanics, i just hope they will upgrade the general looks of the handle. Now it looks like (for me) a cheap clone of itself 🤷🏻.
@@pandamacska I think there could be more texturing on the sides, but overall it doesn’t feel cheap. The sides are slightly contoured towards the spines, which may be a first one for them.
I thought just opening a microtech up voids the warranty? Not being sarcastic that's what I've heard several times
That’s their old warranty policy. As long as you don’t strip or modify/alter the internals, you should be good.
UFO - Unique/Unidentified Fastening Object?
@@Rottidog68 As long as it transcends the time and space continuum, I’m good with that name!
That's a bevel not a taper
If you insist on being that technical, taper is a measure of a conical slope while bevel is a term applied to linear components. So, in this case, the UFO has a taper, while the channel has a bevel. This particular bevel has a slope that matches the taper. I do appreciate the hair splitting in terminology and wish to thank you for the comment!
I really don't understand why anyone would buy this. The price is outrageous. Considering they are coming out with a no play ultratech for basically the same price as the old one.
I really don't understand why anyone buy an original 😂🤣
@SteppingR The newest gen micro techs are really smooth. I have a first gen combat troodon. I hate it lol. My buddy has a newer one. It's night and day different.