Making The Switch To Miller Pipe Pro
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- One of the most frequently asked questions I get... how do you like the miller pipe pro and is it worth the purchase. I am about to give you my PERSONAL OPINION!! Miller Welding has in my opinion gone above and beyond the call of service. There machines are incredibley reliable and function beautifully. One of my favorite things about them is the consistency of early in the morning to end of the day. The machine works for you. Now some of the other features I like is the fuel economy and size of the machine. For about 25.00 you can burn rod for upwards of 2.5-3 days for 10 hrs a day. That equals money SAVED and money kept in your pocket. Customer service seems to be another big one on why guys and girls are switching over. These machines have quite a bit of computer stuff in them which shouldn’t frighten you away from them. Miller has put your mind at ease with there incredible customer service. Most of the time when a machine breaks down miller has demos all over the country where they can usually put a machine on your truck so you don’t miss any days down time is money lost!! They have completely taken care of the hard working people that rely on Miller’s name to make a living go check out Miller Welding.
My father used Miller welding machine for 40 years. Cheers from Sicily
When starting this career,the SA200 is a lot less money. The newer machines offer the axillary power and the weld quality. With the newer machines you can grind, run lights and weld at the same time. Starting out where do you get the money for a machine without going into debt.
Best part of this video is you spending time with your son, wife and brother. Happy Holidays and Be Blessed.
My 73 200 has been my machine my whole career. It's got a million hrs on it (with rebuilds and general repairs). I've tried the Miller's and with time practicing I could certainly use one. I've also played with all the new Lincoln's, and they are fantastic also. For me nearing the end of my career I just have to spend it with the machine that's been there for me through it all.
Oh I completely agree!!! I love a 200 nothing like a classic
1973-2020. 47 years. 8760 hours per year. 411,720 hours.
thats an aluminum machine. did you ever try an older SA-200 with copper windings? i have a few of them and do notice the difference but each generator his its own personality. nothing like being loyal.
Been welding heavy wall pipe and industrial pipe welding for 45 years. Just retired and have a hobby metal business now. I have had a 1963 SA200 for 40 years. It has been and still is a fantastic machine! With that being said, I own and have a 2008 Miller 350 ac/dc TIG runner and a millermatic 250 mig and a 110 Miller 110v mig. All of those machines have been awesome! At this stage in life, unless something becomes to cost prohibitive to repair, I won’t be purchasing new. Whatever suits the operator, is what they should get. Have a merry Christmas, all.
mdsalern yep, been running that machine 58 hrs a day for 47 yrs.
Jake to start with love your post they are truly awesome. I have been welding for 30 years. Started out on pipe, then sheetmetal,then building equipment and now I own a Millwright service. We own all Miller welding machines!! They have never let us down the customer service is great and they stand by there product. If I have to carry one to the shop it’s covered under warranty and cost us nothing. If your ever around McDonough Ga stop by the shop and I will take you to lunch. God Country Family!!!!
Great info. But I tell ya man with tears in my eyes, watching your son taking his first steps, man carried me way back son, thanks blessed we are. Merry Christmas to you and all yours.
Todd it has been a complete blast watching him grow up.
The best part of this video is the family time at the end. Watching y’all get your little boy to walk. Really isn’t a better feeling
thank you sir. its my favorite time as well. and rewatching these videos has been fun just for that reason.
Ive got the 400 and I love all 950lbs of it. I even try to to persuade the die hard Lincoln guys. Expecially when I’m welding and there fiddling with the brushes, rack, or the throttle adjustments. I Use to have the 302d trailblazer. Loved it but very very loud machine. Wireless remote is the best money I’ve spent on it.
13 minutes and 34 seconds timestamp.. bless you brother .. I started as a gypsy welder..power plants ,,ironworker ..back in the 80s all over New England and beyond... Stay safe bless you and your family!!
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I started on the 200 but switched to miller because I got a good deal on a used one and never looked back currently running a big 40 that I love
Nice bud!
I’ve been welding almost four years and only worked in shops using miller, stick, mig, tig, air arc, and they’ve never done me wrong
Subscribed for the welding and info. Watching that little guy take some his first steps totally made my day. Thanks
thank you Paul means a lot you subscribed and really appreciate you enjoying them.
I'm not a welder, I'm a rancher that does some welding. I bought a 250 bobcat back in 2014 and i couldn't be happier with it. miller does build good stuff even if it is on their low end side. i got a kick out of you playing with your little guy. i was doing the same thing with my youngest boy tonight. he'll be 2 in February. cherish your time with him because they grow up too fast, my oldest son will be 9 pretty soon and boy it went by quick. Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Miller has great customer service, no doubt. I have a Big Blue 400D with 7700 hours and a few time Tech support would help diagnose over the phone, just needed a Mulit meter.
BEFORE MILLER WENT COMPUTER CRAZY!!!!!! READ MY REPLY TO
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I run a 2019 pro400 kubota with true remote I'll never go back to lincoln. Miller customer services is unreal they jam up I got a 150 hours on my machine love it
Jake I think what you do for a living is amazing and so cool. Been following you on youtube for years and always get alot from your videos. Thank you for sharing so much about the welding life.
I paid 18600 for my stainless four hundred from Sd Nold it’s been the best machine I’ve ever welded with I do love my red face blue dial
man those old 200s are really nice especially when they get completely rebuilt and you dont have to worry about them any more. red blue dials are nice. glad you love the Miller they are awesome.
Good to know that the millers are good to go. I've got my SA200 restored to start out with.
Beautiful machine. I’ve owned a lot of them and they are great
Just got my Miller 325 Arcreach force So I don't have to walk or climb back down. Shutter my femur 8 months ago. Miller's keeping me in the game!
I've had Miller's all thru my welding career. I now have a Trailblazer 302G, millermatic 250, millermatic 211 and a Miller Syncrowave 250. I'm blue all the way. My local dealer has taken care of me since day one.
This is a really hot in depth video, trying to learn welding lingo and pros and cons. Thanks for posting.
no problem bud, happy to help. Keep going and you'll get where you're trying to go. Thanks for checking in on the channel.
Been using a pipe pro on a job for the last few months! Lucky me as a single hand welder. Awesome awesome machine
Dang that is lucky lol!!
Your son growing up fast wont be long til four wheeler's and john deer's thank u for sharing
Donnie you are not kidding his momma and me where celebrating his 1 year birthday today.
I have welded with the old trusty Lincolns and the miller and I have to agree I like the Millers better. But it is always awesome to see how your family is doing you playing with your son. Have a Very Mary Christmas and Happy New Year
Got a 400 pro and love every bit that I run it!
Your son is growing so quickly. So great to see him taking his first steps and feeding the pups.
True true always a learning curve with every pipe welder
Miller outta give ya a brand new machine, free, after that, Jake.
hahaha man when a company makes a dang good product a guy just needs to say something about it lol.
I love Miller . I have a 2004 Trailblazer 302 since new and it is great plus still have the original battery in it .
dang that is a tough machine lol
@@JacobSchofield thanks for the reply . Merry Christmas to you and your Family
Customer service makes a big difference to people
Miller is the best. I have an old 99 Bobcat 225nt that welds like a dream still. Would like to upgrade to at least a Trailblazer 325 with remote in the next couple years. Baylin is growing up quick. Keep up the good work brother.
That trail blazer 325 diesel is a smooth machine, my job rented one , ran tig all day long on 180-220 , that thing just sips fuel , I'd like to have one myself,
I bought a 97 225NT with 98 hours on it last fall. I had run a Miller AED-200LE (1975) on my service truck prior to that. In the beginning I hated the way the bobcat welded compared to the older Miller, but after spending a few hours learning I’m happy with it. I also have an 73’ blackface re-wound in copper but For the field repair stuff I do (and the price I paid) I can’t beat that Bobcat.
Adding on the Miller customer service : I bought a PAPR Miller auto-darkening welding helmet new on a pro shop on ebay in the USA, but got it delivered in Canada. Unfortunately, the lens was defective, it would drain the battery even when switched off. Got a bit worried that I wouldn't get covered as it was bought in the US and that it would be a nightmare to send it back to the seller. So I tried and went to a local Miller reseller. I was pleased to learn that Miller covers their products internationally without any hassle. 3 days after that I had a brand new replacement lens in exchange of my defective one, free of ANY charge. Now that dealer is my go to place and I will always prioritize Miller products, at least when it makes sense financially. International coverage of your products is a huge plus.
This is awesome stuff to hear! I love miller gear no doubt about it.
I have always preferred Miller Lincoln is a great company as well I like them but im happy with my big blue
Diggin the little recliner for Baylen!
Damn I wasn’t really interested in the Millers until you talked about the technology side of it. 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️bad ass!!!
hahahah it kinda blew my mind as well when I heard about it.
just my experience not trying to send negative vibs keep up the good content!
19 grand 400 pipe pro finally got one, put my old 250 Lincoln to rest, still going strong though old Lincoln takes time to figure out also.
oh for sure Jose hope you like that miller if you have questions just lt me know.
Jacob Schofield so I had about, 30 minutes of run time on it before I went and took a test in North Dakota, I had to secure it to my truck with some brackets, never ran a beed or anything before going to test, showed up ran a couple stringers, passed the test😂😂😂 it’s like night and day compared to the old Lincoln’s I was used to, but in a good way really consistent hardly messed with the heat, it helped because a didn’t have a helper.
im no pipeline welder but just a hobbiest. ive been torn about lincoln or miller. i plan on getting a trailblazer 325 eventually. having generator windings and welder windings being sperate is a selling point for me. i want something that will last a lifetime and handle everything i may want to do, up to and including heavy equipment repair. your video pretty much validates what ive been thinking.
Thats awesome and im glad it helped
Good video Jacob. The Miller Pipe Pro is a dream machine for me.
you wount regret it they are really nice.
Love the family aspect. Be blessed
So do we thank you. Very much.
Great information dude. Liking your channel over the other pipelines because you teach.
Amazing machine, keep up the great work man. Best part of the video is the end, crazy how fast children grow and develop! God bless you and your family, be blessed!
Thank you Jesus be blessed
Jacob Schofield quick question, what made you go back to your current RAM single cab? I’ve been looking for videos on that and how you made your current bed. Thanks!
So this bed is a bunch of B roll basically of us building it. It wasn’t so in-depth like the GMC bed was. But I just wanted something even smaller then the GMC
Jacob Schofield nice! Is a dually a must? Can you make a video on the trucks and beds, that would help out a lot. Thanks man, be blessed!
Merry Christmas to you and your family, I'd say happy new year but if you got a 400 you have that covered. Im a mainly a structural welder, have used a 350 and 400. Both are great, auxiliary 110v is fantastic, especially if you are stuck in the middle of nowhere. looking forward to seeing you break in the new one.
I have used Lincoln to learn pipe welding and I was great but I'm a die hard Miller man
I am a Miller man.
Awesome video man! I run a trailblazer, I don’t pipeline would love to run a bead with a pipe pro!
I’ve been a miller man since day one !
Haha lil guy has his own recliner! That’s awesome!
he loves that little chair lol
Good video my brother merry Christmas to you and your family
I’ve started welding with Miller. Absolutely love my Millers. The first job I went to that had Lincolns it was a HUGE learning curve. I was so frustrated with the Lincolns. But after about a couple months of using the Lincolns, I figured them out and like them. But, I still only own Millers,
Brah, just ordered a Pipe Pro with a Cat and is a demo, Savin money!
So here is the flip side for the amateur who sees this stuff and thinks "well if it is good enough for a pro, it is good enough for me". The same support ethic that works for day in day out welders does not work for me. And obviously I don't weld pipe. So I bought a Miller tig and was thinking of upgrading to a Dynasty for my aircraft work. I don't want my wings falling off, so I want a good machine, easy to use lots of processes. But the hours will be really low. Several years when I am past the warranty, I will have less time on it than a pro in a few weeks. The economics of the high cost high service don't work out for me. If I buy at 25 I want the same machine to last me till I am 65 or beyond, and there won't be one 1000 dollar earning day in there. So Miller giving me a loaner won't help me keep up. Very sage advice for a pro though.
I know guys whose boards fried and they got stiffed by Miller. My experience with my Maxstar was all good. But every time I visited my dealer I literally saw Maxstars that were sitting on the desk waiting to be carried back into service. That could be my Maxstart, but mine will last till I am past the warranty. So I am not paying extra for a warranty.
But basically with all the low cost chinese machines ,or being easily able to tap into second hand through Craigslist, etc... The Millers have to compete on service. That is basically irrelevant to me. What I need is either a mechanical machine that can be fixed by me as a guy with basic skills, or I have to risk it and buy one of the better chinese machines to get the computer processes I need at 1/3rd the cost, knowing that if they break down I can still get service by writing a bad review and then they contact me. That actually did happen to me they shipped me an updated machine.
I still run my 350d Miller Trail Blazer on my Rig truck..... generation machine prior to the pipe pro series machines .... still love it ..... have ran a 350d pipe pro and 400 ...... in all honesty idiot proof ...... smooth arc, crisp, fuel efficient big generator for power and much quieter than a Lincoln.
Ontop of that these Millers are Multi process... Lincoln’s Cross Country..... un-comparable ......
Discontinued because of all the issues with them sa200 was around for how many years and still going how long a Miller pipe pro 350 been built how long the parts are going to be available ?? Yes im a LINCOLN MAN like the video keep the videos coming merry Christmas!!!!
Miller trailblazer 302 air pack amazing unit . Miller and Kemppi - the best stuff you can get in this world.
Should be purchasing mine next week cant wait
heck yes if you have any questions let me know and ill see if i can help.
my miller big blue 600 brushes and holder went out 800hrs. 2 months on backorder. after 2 months tech support actually just sent me the brushes. great service but 2 freakin months.
You and Tyler Sasse need to link up and show the world that the Miller will fill quicker and cap slicker!
Have a Blessed Christmas!! Great to see B-man learning to walk!!!
You have a great Christmas as well. hes gettng close.
Some things I've been considering that I didn't see mentioned that is swinging me to the miller over my sa's are wanting to run a field cnc plasma pipe cutter. I like the weight, aux a/c power to run power in the rv if need be, tools ect, a 400pp with an airpak would be awesome, hot tunes, ect would and will be cool as well. Our trucks can only carry so much weight and real estate is at a premium.
I got 235 Hobart stick mate love it
I like the new Remote you get with the unit . And it’s Multi process unit . A older sa200 unit is not . Sa200 welds nice but your Limited . That what I do Service unit . From a mechanic stand point . I would rather work on the Miller . Then a Lincoln . The first Miller 325 with xl power gas unit . come in my shop . I was surprised . How Quiet the unit was running .
You can't beat them old Hobart you can try estimation I started on and it's spoiled you then Miller big 40 I tried the bobcat then the trailblazer came out for a small machine wow almost like using a caulking gun amazing yep I like the old Lincoln's but the trailblazer was a real eye-opener wow
You would think that rather than make guys go through a process of getting used to the machine, you would think that Miller ought to be able to read the output of say some guy's old SA200 and give them a setting that matches that perfectly. Then they would at least have a home base to work out from while they get used to the super settings computer machines can be come up with.
I’ve always been a fan of what’s tried and true. I’m partial to Lincons yes, but I’ve always wanted to let the bugs get worked out of new technology before I invest my money into almost anything. I wouldn’t mind welding with a PP400 If it was owned by someone else however. “They’re all good when they’re running good”
The main beef however I think everyone can unanimously agree on today’s SAE 300s is their desperate need a 10kw+ generator.. and of course Lincoln’s.. how you say.. “Hit or miss“ costumer service.. Love the vids man✌🏼🇺🇸
I totally get that 100% i prefer to do the same thing. this pipe pro has been something else though. super reliable super smooth with a ton of control. defenetly find someone that has one and weld with it. I think you will really like it.
Miller has way better calendars too!
That 70s pornstar stache tho lmao
Man I know its awesome huh. A lot of guys are freaking jealous about it.
@@JacobSchofield lol jealous is a understatement lmao
Great information Jake 👍! Thanks for the insight. Awesome first steps for your son 😀. Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Merry Christmas Wade thank you we are loving that boy .
This is so true find out what works for ya
I would like to work there
I just bought a used pipe pro 400. Can’t wait to strike a arc with it
How many hours?
3200hr. It’s pretty clean. It burns rod nice. Quiet too
Timestamp 2 minutes and 48 seconds... You got to know history!!! Back in the day the Lincoln's had a CV option standard!!! Lincoln called it variable voltage.. or constant voltage.. the big Millers.. came standard with constant current.. if you wanted a constant voltage at the machine you had to pay extra.. it was quite a bit and there was a wait time.. and those circuit boards failed over and over and over and over again... Nevermind I've been world and in-between with Lincoln at first but yeah now definitely Miller...
Looking forward to the future string of vids on this, man. 🤙🏼
Thanks Chris i am pretty excited about it.
It’s a DC arc, you only have two parameters to work with. Volts and amps. Miller can scam you all they want but their is nothing to program other than how your watts are made up.
6010 = higher voltage to make up for the increased arc length, 7018 = less volts required because of the short arc.
Lincoln uses a rectifier type where a generator is direct coupled to the engine giving you the smoothest arc you’ll ever get. Miller just threw their XMT machine guts inside the pipe pro frame which takes the lower generated current and runs it through a bunch of electronics screwing up the smooth arc in the process while adding a bunch of circuit boards, cooling fans and wiring to go wrong. Of course they’re replacing machines, they are taking them back to see where they screwed up.
Pipe pros used to go wide open if remote losses connection. Enbridge in Ontario Canada just banned them this year.
I have a new 400... still fighting the learning curve to make er run pretty, but hands down smokes any other machine in weld quality that I have ever ran. Thanks for the info Jacob 👍🏻
it is a learning curve sometimes a little frustrated but man when you finally dial it in that puppy runs good.
It’s an interesting machine, change one setting, it effects what you need in terms of amperage, hot start, and dig. Excited for your next video when you have yours! Everyone says downhill it runs best on soft, so far I agree, but for the slickest caps needs to be on crisp
Seem like he is walking early. Good for him!
he starting to figure it out. we are enjoying watching him learn how to walk.
you’re a great person !
I’ve heard miller is bad ass when combo welding but I still have to still stick with Lincoln bud sorry to say and I have nothing against miller until I try one haha
Hey man nothing wrong with that at all. stick with what you trust.
Got a big blue 400 for 5 grand used with very low hours on it .
Forget about the Miller. That kid took his first steps
Hahahahaha 😂 I like your style.
Just bought a 2019 miller big blue 400 pro with Mitsubishi engine and it's pretty much exact same machine besides the liner on the hood and door. 14k brand new
good machine huh? lots of bells and whistles sometimes to many to keep track of.
"I will never go back" might be a little bit harsh statement there!!!! my dad went thru Lincoln welding school years ago. I grew up welding with Lincoln & they are great machines!!! that being said I don't think they have kept up with the changing technology that has developed... I used a Chinese made inverter machine last week that really impressed me, I know it wont hold up to daily use but for a home shop use would be ok!!! there is always a learning curve when you change from one anything to another, glad to see the little feller starting to walk!!! Go home & have a MERRY CHRISTMAS with the family!!! keep us up to date on how everything goes with that new 400!!!
a chinese one? what was it?
What year did year he go to school there
it is a "aitel" blue color.. IDK where it was sourced from. sometimes you don't ask questions you don't really want to know the answer to!!! LOL these guys are into a little bit of everything!! I was just fixing a bush hog for them while I was at the lake trying to enjoy myself...
1940 i think is when he went thru
The thing with China is, they will make any product you want, as cheap and nasty, or as high quality as you pay for.
Ran Lincoln's (short hood 50's model and a couple 60's models) from the late 80's until 2005 when I switched over and bought the pipepro 304 w/stainless package and the 100' miller remote for $14,500 when it was first available down here in south Louisiana back then. Welded mainly on 36" and 42" 1.218 wall thickness pipe using 5.0 and 3/16 8010G 70+ and never had a problem. Changed the oil and filter every 200 hours and the fuel filters every other oil change. Every job I ever got on that lasted more than two months and the welding was blowing and going nonstop 6 days a week, very seldom would the job come to an end with many if not all the Lincolns having had some kind of problem throughout the duration of the job.
14 years later I still have the 304 and not once in all those years has it ever been to the shop other than for maintenance. They only made the 304 for two years and then discontinued it for reasons that are unknown to me to this day.
Yes, maintenance is key.
thats impressive for any welder. how many hours do you have on it now?
mike cubes
5500 hours
Retired now, only use it for little BS jobs and for electricity whenever the power goes out!
@Frank deluca we can only dream about the last part of your comment....haha. you just keep seeing more and more tattoos out there. sad
Kido is gettin' so big.
good video, i wonder why miller never came out with their own real generator. they bought out hobart and they used to make real DC generators that welded like the shield arcs. miller could have grabbed a bigger share of the pipeliner market instead of going with even more electronics and complexity. lincoln is imitating miller with their cross country machine, have you tried one of those yet?
my old 1959 long hood SA-200 still welds better than my inverter in the shop and the 59 is much simpler and you cant tune an inverter the same way
i am lincoln all the way because they financed my first welder and got me started in business so i am a little biased. also i have never had any problems with my lincoln machines i bought new.
I love my pipe pro but it does have to be said that the wireless remote price does seem to be a little bit ridiculous.
its not cheap no doubt.
I always tell people the machine works for me. I don’t work for the machine.
Coolest video!!.And well explained!.
When I rigged up a lil after 1976.which was a long time ago young man all it was called was the Miller big 40 and let me tell you that thing was a horse. She run 3/16 all day long and never skip a beet
The Pipe Pro is $16-17k. Woo wee!!!!!! That’s gonna be a hit...
they do cost a little money no doubt.
Welding machine $17,000, truck $50,0000, other tools $20,000, total $90,000, Income $100,000 per year, seems pretty cheap to me, no building, cheap property tax, minimal overhead, no advertising, minimal accounting, sounds like a great business plan!
its not that much if you work on the pipeline because its the thing that makes the money
Iv been a miller fan since the first day a struck a arc. Iv run Lincoln to not a fan. It's all personal preference.
Where’d you get those leather sleeves at?
I love both Lincoln and Miller but I’d say Lincoln is better for mig/fluxcore and Miller for tig. Stick is stick I don’t think it matters w stick lol.
I'm doing the first oil change on my new pipepro 400 this week, I'm not a pipeliner yet so I don't know much about the performance using 6010 and 8010 but I love how it welds 7018 and tig. love your videos bro, share your settings so I can try them with 6010.
Hulk Gomez
If you develop the ability that machine has the capability of running any mild steel ( 6010, 7010, 8010) downhill cap on a buttweld pipe joint so slick you will be tempted to tack the cap on just to make sure it doesn't slip off😲😜🤣
6010 i run a 1/8 root in at around 110-135 thats all we use 6010 for.
I have welded with miller pipe pro 400 in shop for 6 years They do good job... But i hate all the computer crap the computer board crap. Lincoln classic 300 D to me is way better
oh man those classic 300 D are nice for sure. I bought my father in laws from him for a few years then he bought it back.
Good info 👍
Blue over red all day imo
Bought a used Miller 200le. What advice would you give for a beginner, as far as settings on 6010 and 7018.
Awesome videos. Thanks..
Just do what Bob Moffit does, try it at +10 and try it at -10 and see what you like the most.
Lol
ole bob is an outlaw !
ole uncle Bob i freaking love that guy!! one of the best
Im ready to see that new welder video.
me too it should be here the 10th
Cool im getting ready to put airbags on my new welding rig now. Im still trying to figure out how to put some pictures of it on here God bless be safe out there.
Who is that other dude staying with you, helper or family member? Cool little recliner I could’ve used one of those
Totally agree with you, I have so much better customer service at the Miller dealerships compared to the Lincoln dealerships