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Oh man, I don't usually leave comments on youtube, but I must say, this video most definitely deserves more views. It is one of the most nicely done, detailed ICBC MST test videos I have come across. Thanks.
Thank you for this video. This is the most informative one out there for ICBC MST and your explanations are on point and easy to follow. The quality of video, sound and editing are on a professional level. I'm taking my MST tomorrow and your video helps me feel confident that I can pass with flying colors. Kudos on a great youtube instructional and I'll be sure to share it with any and all that are learning and may ask questions. In fact I'm going to share it in the Motorcycle group page that I belong to. Cheers and safe riding too you.
great video. Nice to see you talked your way through it. Thats what I needed to hear. Great comments, I was wondering for far the cones where in the the slalom and it was answered. I'm 52 and I bought a 1974 CB750 Four (first Bike). this video has put me at ease a bit more. I'll be ready for you ICBC. Cheers
I recently failed my skills test because....I didn't pick up enough speed for the sudden stop portion. Got another chance and didn't pick enough speed up again. I gotta practice and not let my mind think of being too careful or hesitant. Jus practice stopping at speeds over and over.
I passed... not with flying colors hitting 2 cones with my back wheel & a foot down but I didn't stall. In the middle of safety counsel motorcycle course & it's helped so far... Now I gotta book a road course to beat this panic I get after 65kmh & to take turns of 60 @ 60kmh instead of 45kmh. I tell myself to man up but that doesn't work as well as relaxing my death grip on the handlebars & hugging the tank with my knees. So far, where I'd get in my truck in 30mn takes me 1h30mn on my bike because I have to stop every 5mn to 10mn to either let the shlouff of trucks & SUV'$ pass me or take a breather HAHAHAHA Thanks for asking & take care
Thanks for the compliment. I honestly don't know how they set up the test for a trike. I do know that the slalom is set up based off of the turn radius of bike, and they may have the same standards for a trike. I don't ride or teach trikes, and I've never seen the test done on one, so I really don't know.
Thanks so much. I took the skills test yesterday morning (standby) and only had to slalom around 3 cones. Had to use my 'reverse' and do a 3 point turn. Anyways, I passed. Phew.
@@lesliestuckel7969 I know my comment is 5 years later than yours but I'm glad it sounds easy for those on trikes! I was left my husband's HD TriGlide after he passed and I'll be taking my test next month. I'm nervous! LOL!
Watching this a few times. I passed the skills test on my xv750 before but didn't realize i let my license expire...have to do it again tomorrow. But I sold the small bike and bought a Road Star 1600 and have only ridden it for about an hour lol. Should be interesting.
vansteelerfan hey its vitali, new account. It was terrible i dropped my bike and nearly hit somebody walking across the parking lot. The examiner asked if i had any practice at all i told her i watched a few youtube videos and she had a good laugh. Needless to say im going to stick to racing cars on the streets! :)
Watching videos is no replacement for training and practice. The idea of this video is to show that it's easy enough to do this test when you know what to do. But you need to practice, and know what you're doing. And please don't race on the streets. I use the streets and don't want to be hit by racing cars. Race tracks are wonderful things.
Great Video. Can You please let me know how many feet / meters is the turn radius of the pylons and how far apart are the pylons when doing the salim in and out of the pylons? I've got a Harley 830 lbs bike simular to yours. Thx, Rick from BC Canada.
That's all based off the turn radius of the bike, as measured during the test. You should be able to easily do the slalom with the cones 8ish feet apart.
Thank you! Taking it on Tuesday. A little nervous. This helps. Bummer part is the test is almost an hour away (Nelson-Trail) and the only way to get there is on highways. My supervisor isn't available to ride my bike out there as he works. And because of CoVid the only slot available within the next 100 days (verbatim from the ICBC guy I talked to on the phone) was Tuesday in Trail. Now I have to figure out how to load and unload my bike into the back of a pick up to take the damn test. Any pointers on that?
I have actually meant to make a video about this exact thing, but keep on forgetting. Sorry about that. Hopefully your bike isn't too heavy, and you have something that will work well as a ramp. Plan out where you will put your feet ahead of time, since you don't want to be half way through loading a bike, and lose your footing. I personally use two ramps side by side, so that I don't have to worry about it. A good trick is to put the bike into gear, and pull the clutch in when you want to push it. That way if you need to adjust your footing, or run into any trouble, you can just let the clutch out and the bike won't roll. The clutch works way better than the front brake when loading and unloading motorcycles because all the weight it on the rear wheel, so using the front brake tends to just result in the front wheel locking and sliding down the ramp. But the most important piece of advice I can give for someone who hasn't loaded a bike before, is don't do it alone. Have your supervisor help you load it before they go to work, and ask someone at the ICBC office to help you unload, and load it back up again. You might not be able to get an ICBC employee to help you, but I'm sure someone there would be willing. So don't be afraid to ask for assistance. Good Luck.
What area are you located in? I would love to have a supervisor teach me how to utilize these skills better, however I am new to BC and don’t know any riders. I have my MST for next week, and am taking it with an 1100 V-Star. My biggest problem is that my legs seem to get in the way of the handlebars when I try to make a tight left or right turn. I don’t stall but it sometimes results in me dropping a foot.
I’m having trouble finding anyone with a class 6 to come with me to my skills test on the 20th. Is that going to be a problem with the examiner? Do they check?
I have a question: I know for your road test they ask u to bring a motorcycle of over 200cc to get a full licence. Do they ask u to bring a motorcycle of over 200 cc at your skills test B.C too or it doesn’t really matters at skills test ? Your help is greatly appreciated
You can do the skills test on any sized street legal, and insured motorcycle. For example, you could do the test on a Honda Grom, but it doesn't make much sense unless that is the bike you intend to ride. You should be able to pass the test on whatever motorcycle you intend to ride. When it comes to the road test, you can do it on a bike smaller than 200cc. When you pass, you will get most of the restrictions removed, but the no passenger restriction will remain. The only way to be able to have passengers is to pass the test on a bike with at least 200cc.
awesome vid I've got most of the skills down except ( the one here at icbc is on a slight incline ) for the u turn from a stop can u elaborate on how I can become better at this skill
I don't see any reason why that would be a problem as long as it has functioning lights/signals, and horn. But it wouldn't be a bad idea to check with the testing office to be sure.
They don't make you ride the clutch, it's just the best way to do this type of slow riding. Of course, when you have a dry clutch, that's going to present some issues, and add some difficulty to the equation. The only thing that changes on the test is the size of the Uturn, and the distance between the cones for the slalom. That's all determined by the turn radius of your bike, and you will have to navigate it regardless of the type of clutch your bike has.
Sick of not being able to park my truck anywhere in the city so thinking of getting a vt750 on sale for 900, not sure if I can pass the test though since I have 0 experience
@@VIMotorcycleSchool Well yeah i'm definitely gonna train before hand. I'm just curious if its gonna take a month of training or a year of training Riding a motorcycle doesnt seem too bad, especially since i'm gonna get an automatic for my first so I can get the basics
@@rickytrevino8281 If you can ride a bike, you can learn to ride a motorcycle. I do 9 hours of one on one training for beginners, other schools do group training over a weekend or two. How quickly you learn depends mostly on you. I don't know of any vt750's that are automatic, and I personally hate the idea of automatic motorcycles. The clutch is a fundamental part of control.
@@VIMotorcycleSchool I did hop on my friends motorcycle and ride it around the block but that's about it. And people said the same about manual in cars but nowadays automatics dominate the market
You stopped past the cones on the second run around 11:30 that would be a fail. The examiner waves their hand at a certain point which i believe might be colour coded based on your uturn radius (i could be wrong) but for sure they are expecting to see you stop before those two cones you crossed
You are, in fact, wrong. The instructor does not signal for you to stop at a specific spot, they signal at different spots to keep you on your toes. They are looking for you to stop within 7 meters (21 feet) from where you were when they dropped their hand. The location of the cones has nothing to do with where you are supposed to stop. It is a common misconception, and it often leads to people breaking too hard and locking up their wheels in a panic to get stopped before cones that don't matter.
VI Motorcycle School what is there reference point for measurement? I did the test, hit 27kmh, and was given points for not going fast enough. Seems like a subjective part of the test without reference points
Every test that I've seen, they have a line of cones at the edge of the test area. That's how they can measure the distance. One of the problems with the test is the fact that the speed is entirely subjective. I have found that the louder a bike is, the more likely the person doing the test is to think you're going fast enough. Hopefully two tries is enough to get the job done in a way that they deem to be good enough. Sorry that I didn't respond sooner. I didn't get a notification a month ago.
Unfortunately for me I think this is where I screwed up. Everything else was good, but I assumed I had to stop in the distance of where the examiner was standing. I ended up braking too hard and locking my brakes, both times. I should've watched this first!
I feel like they don't always make the requirements and expectations clear enough during the tests. I know they try, but when you add test jitters into the equation, sometimes things need to be spelled out really clearly, and people are often too nervous or simply don't know what questions to ask. At least you can do it again.
Again, it's adjusted based on the turn radius of the bike. It will usually be around 9 feet between the cones. No matter what you ride, there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to do it in 7 feet.
kunjidee... in NC they are 12 ft apart and 7 cones. If you have an 800 lb load encluding rider... good luck on the cone test. The rest of the test is more realistic and you will not have a problem in my opinion. I have not got an answer to why the cone weave test is necessary for real life riding.
VI Motorcycle School Ya it’s a lot. I’m 6 5’ and 380 pounds so I wanted something big. I’ve been riding it with my permit. And I’m getting pretty comfortable, but low speed stuff like this is not my favorite lol
The low speed stuff is way more challenging than the fast stuff, that's why they test it. The idea is that if you can control the bike at the lower speeds, that must mean that controlling it would be easy. I can't overstate the value of qualified training. Especially starting out on such a substantial motorcycle.
On a motorcycle with a low center of gravity, the test is much easier than with a high (enduro etc), while the weight of the motorcycle does not matter much.
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I make lots of motorcycle safety videos, as well as riding, and project videos. There are much more important things about riding than how to pass this silly test, so please subscribe.
It doesn't cost you anything, and it really helps me out.
Oh man, I don't usually leave comments on youtube, but I must say, this video most definitely deserves more views. It is one of the most nicely done, detailed ICBC MST test videos I have come across. Thanks.
Thanks a lot. Feel free to share it far and wide.
I've waited 43 years to ride legally but I am oddly stressed about the test. Thank you for this warm up.
Me too...!!!!!
same here laul
I too have been riding with a learner's licence for donkey's years, but this movie makes the skills test look do-able. With thanks.
just passed my MST today thanks alot!
Seriously the best explained mst video on youtube.
Thank you for this video. This is the most informative one out there for ICBC MST and your explanations are on point and easy to follow. The quality of video, sound and editing are on a professional level. I'm taking my MST tomorrow and your video helps me feel confident that I can pass with flying colors. Kudos on a great youtube instructional and I'll be sure to share it with any and all that are learning and may ask questions. In fact I'm going to share it in the Motorcycle group page that I belong to. Cheers and safe riding too you.
Thanks.
Subscriptions are really helpful.
This video is so helpful man, I really appreciate you taking the time to break this down! Getting a 2009 883 Sportster:)
I know this is a very late comment but it took me a hot minute to realize you were in Duncan, and I’m 100% sure I saw you recording this video 😂
Dude I was like yo is that duncan 😂
I knew I recognized that place!! Lol
great video. Nice to see you talked your way through it. Thats what I needed to hear. Great comments, I was wondering for far the cones where in the the slalom and it was answered. I'm 52 and I bought a 1974 CB750 Four (first Bike). this video has put me at ease a bit more. I'll be ready for you ICBC. Cheers
My appointment tomorrow morning 😊
I recently failed my skills test because....I didn't pick up enough speed for the sudden stop portion. Got another chance and didn't pick enough speed up again. I gotta practice and not let my mind think of being too careful or hesitant. Jus practice stopping at speeds over and over.
racko6ix I failed mine a couple days ago due to me overthinking it waaaay to much, it’s all mental. Riding a bike isn’t the problem
Thanks again I'm passing my test today & was anxious bout it... not anymore 🏍:)
How did it go?
I passed... not with flying colors hitting 2 cones with my back wheel & a foot down but I didn't stall. In the middle of safety counsel motorcycle course & it's helped so far... Now I gotta book a road course to beat this panic I get after 65kmh & to take turns of 60 @ 60kmh instead of 45kmh. I tell myself to man up but that doesn't work as well as relaxing my death grip on the handlebars & hugging the tank with my knees. So far, where I'd get in my truck in 30mn takes me 1h30mn on my bike because I have to stop every 5mn to 10mn to either let the shlouff of trucks & SUV'$ pass me or take a breather HAHAHAHA
Thanks for asking & take care
Love your video - well done. I have a Trike. Will it be treated differently? I can't imagine doing the slalom with cones 9' apart. Thanks!
Thanks for the compliment.
I honestly don't know how they set up the test for a trike. I do know that the slalom is set up based off of the turn radius of bike, and they may have the same standards for a trike.
I don't ride or teach trikes, and I've never seen the test done on one, so I really don't know.
Thanks so much. I took the skills test yesterday morning (standby) and only had to slalom around 3 cones. Had to use my 'reverse' and do a 3 point turn. Anyways, I passed. Phew.
@@lesliestuckel7969 I know my comment is 5 years later than yours but I'm glad it sounds easy for those on trikes! I was left my husband's HD TriGlide after he passed and I'll be taking my test next month. I'm nervous! LOL!
Watching this a few times. I passed the skills test on my xv750 before but didn't realize i let my license expire...have to do it again tomorrow. But I sold the small bike and bought a Road Star 1600 and have only ridden it for about an hour lol. Should be interesting.
I go for mine tomorrow and I'm so nervous. My husband made me a diagram and what to do and walked me through it. I don't think I'll have a problem.
Awesome most comprehensive video on skill test! I hope I'll pass today ;)
Well how did ya do?
vansteelerfan hey its vitali, new account. It was terrible i dropped my bike and nearly hit somebody walking across the parking lot. The examiner asked if i had any practice at all i told her i watched a few youtube videos and she had a good laugh. Needless to say im going to stick to racing cars on the streets! :)
Watching videos is no replacement for training and practice.
The idea of this video is to show that it's easy enough to do this test when you know what to do.
But you need to practice, and know what you're doing.
And please don't race on the streets. I use the streets and don't want to be hit by racing cars. Race tracks are wonderful things.
Great Video. Can You please let me know how many feet / meters is the turn radius of the pylons and how far apart are the pylons when doing the salim in and out of the pylons? I've got a Harley 830 lbs bike simular to yours. Thx, Rick from BC Canada.
That's all based off the turn radius of the bike, as measured during the test. You should be able to easily do the slalom with the cones 8ish feet apart.
Thank you! Taking it on Tuesday. A little nervous. This helps.
Bummer part is the test is almost an hour away (Nelson-Trail) and the only way to get there is on highways. My supervisor isn't available to ride my bike out there as he works. And because of CoVid the only slot available within the next 100 days (verbatim from the ICBC guy I talked to on the phone) was Tuesday in Trail. Now I have to figure out how to load and unload my bike into the back of a pick up to take the damn test. Any pointers on that?
I have actually meant to make a video about this exact thing, but keep on forgetting. Sorry about that.
Hopefully your bike isn't too heavy, and you have something that will work well as a ramp. Plan out where you will put your feet ahead of time, since you don't want to be half way through loading a bike, and lose your footing.
I personally use two ramps side by side, so that I don't have to worry about it.
A good trick is to put the bike into gear, and pull the clutch in when you want to push it. That way if you need to adjust your footing, or run into any trouble, you can just let the clutch out and the bike won't roll. The clutch works way better than the front brake when loading and unloading motorcycles because all the weight it on the rear wheel, so using the front brake tends to just result in the front wheel locking and sliding down the ramp.
But the most important piece of advice I can give for someone who hasn't loaded a bike before, is don't do it alone.
Have your supervisor help you load it before they go to work, and ask someone at the ICBC office to help you unload, and load it back up again.
You might not be able to get an ICBC employee to help you, but I'm sure someone there would be willing. So don't be afraid to ask for assistance.
Good Luck.
Super useful thanks! I got a monster to push 1400 Suzuki Cavalcade any suggestions beside doing more bench presses?
Yeah, don't skip leg day!
I can do a Figure eight, easy on my Road star, but the 10ft cones is def my challenge to me!
Thanks you 😊
What area are you located in? I would love to have a supervisor teach me how to utilize these skills better, however I am new to BC and don’t know any riders. I have my MST for next week, and am taking it with an 1100 V-Star. My biggest problem is that my legs seem to get in the way of the handlebars when I try to make a tight left or right turn. I don’t stall but it sometimes results in me dropping a foot.
Hey Chris, I'm in Duncan, on Vancouver Island.
www.vimotorcycleschool.ca
I’m having trouble finding anyone with a class 6 to come with me to my skills test on the 20th. Is that going to be a problem with the examiner? Do they check?
I have a question: I know for your road test they ask u to bring a motorcycle of over 200cc to get a full licence. Do they ask u to bring a motorcycle of over 200 cc at your skills test B.C too or it doesn’t really matters at skills test ? Your help is greatly appreciated
You can do the skills test on any sized street legal, and insured motorcycle. For example, you could do the test on a Honda Grom, but it doesn't make much sense unless that is the bike you intend to ride.
You should be able to pass the test on whatever motorcycle you intend to ride.
When it comes to the road test, you can do it on a bike smaller than 200cc. When you pass, you will get most of the restrictions removed, but the no passenger restriction will remain.
The only way to be able to have passengers is to pass the test on a bike with at least 200cc.
awesome vid I've got most of the skills down except ( the one here at icbc is on a slight incline ) for the u turn from a stop can u elaborate on how I can become better at this skill
There's not really much to it.
Only put down enough power to keep the bike moving, keep your eyes up, and look where you want to go.
Hello Sir how far apart are the cone for the salom thank you
The distance between the cones for the slalom depends on the turn radius of your bike, so I can't say for sure what it would be for you.
i have a honda rebel bobber 250. i dont have a front fender... can i still take the test?
I don't see any reason why that would be a problem as long as it has functioning lights/signals, and horn. But it wouldn't be a bad idea to check with the testing office to be sure.
Anyone know how they deal with bikes that have a dry clutch? They don’t still make you ride the clutch do they?
They don't make you ride the clutch, it's just the best way to do this type of slow riding.
Of course, when you have a dry clutch, that's going to present some issues, and add some difficulty to the equation.
The only thing that changes on the test is the size of the Uturn, and the distance between the cones for the slalom. That's all determined by the turn radius of your bike, and you will have to navigate it regardless of the type of clutch your bike has.
Sick of not being able to park my truck anywhere in the city so thinking of getting a vt750 on sale for 900, not sure if I can pass the test though since I have 0 experience
The odds of passing the test with 0 experience is pretty much exactly 0.
Training is pretty important.
@@VIMotorcycleSchool Well yeah i'm definitely gonna train before hand. I'm just curious if its gonna take a month of training or a year of training
Riding a motorcycle doesnt seem too bad, especially since i'm gonna get an automatic for my first so I can get the basics
@@rickytrevino8281 If you can ride a bike, you can learn to ride a motorcycle. I do 9 hours of one on one training for beginners, other schools do group training over a weekend or two.
How quickly you learn depends mostly on you.
I don't know of any vt750's that are automatic, and I personally hate the idea of automatic motorcycles. The clutch is a fundamental part of control.
@@VIMotorcycleSchool I did hop on my friends motorcycle and ride it around the block but that's about it.
And people said the same about manual in cars but nowadays automatics dominate the market
You stopped past the cones on the second run around 11:30 that would be a fail. The examiner waves their hand at a certain point which i believe might be colour coded based on your uturn radius (i could be wrong) but for sure they are expecting to see you stop before those two cones you crossed
You are, in fact, wrong.
The instructor does not signal for you to stop at a specific spot, they signal at different spots to keep you on your toes.
They are looking for you to stop within 7 meters (21 feet) from where you were when they dropped their hand.
The location of the cones has nothing to do with where you are supposed to stop.
It is a common misconception, and it often leads to people breaking too hard and locking up their wheels in a panic to get stopped before cones that don't matter.
VI Motorcycle School what is there reference point for measurement? I did the test, hit 27kmh, and was given points for not going fast enough. Seems like a subjective part of the test without reference points
Every test that I've seen, they have a line of cones at the edge of the test area. That's how they can measure the distance.
One of the problems with the test is the fact that the speed is entirely subjective. I have found that the louder a bike is, the more likely the person doing the test is to think you're going fast enough. Hopefully two tries is enough to get the job done in a way that they deem to be good enough.
Sorry that I didn't respond sooner. I didn't get a notification a month ago.
Unfortunately for me I think this is where I screwed up. Everything else was good, but I assumed I had to stop in the distance of where the examiner was standing. I ended up braking too hard and locking my brakes, both times. I should've watched this first!
I feel like they don't always make the requirements and expectations clear enough during the tests. I know they try, but when you add test jitters into the equation, sometimes things need to be spelled out really clearly, and people are often too nervous or simply don't know what questions to ask.
At least you can do it again.
How far apart are the cones?
Which ones?
They get adjusted based on the turn radius of the motorcycle.
the salom
Again, it's adjusted based on the turn radius of the bike. It will usually be around 9 feet between the cones. No matter what you ride, there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to do it in 7 feet.
kunjidee... in NC they are 12 ft apart and 7 cones. If you have an 800 lb load encluding rider... good luck on the cone test. The rest of the test is more realistic and you will not have a problem in my opinion. I have not got an answer to why the cone weave test is necessary for real life riding.
My first bike is a Honda VTX 1300r and I’m terrified lol
That's a lot of bike to learn on.
VI Motorcycle School
Ya it’s a lot. I’m 6 5’ and 380 pounds so I wanted something big. I’ve been riding it with my permit. And I’m getting pretty comfortable, but low speed stuff like this is not my favorite lol
The low speed stuff is way more challenging than the fast stuff, that's why they test it. The idea is that if you can control the bike at the lower speeds, that must mean that controlling it would be easy.
I can't overstate the value of qualified training. Especially starting out on such a substantial motorcycle.
My second bike!
Definitely takes some practicing to get used to doing the slow speed stuff.
On a motorcycle with a low center of gravity, the test is much easier than with a high (enduro etc), while the weight of the motorcycle does not matter much.
Are you actually saying that the test is harder on an enduro?
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