I tried these with the Mayflower Arc amp and I have to say in terms of pure sound quality it’s one of the best. But in my opinion that’s just for sound quality and when it comes to other aspects of sound like imaging and how far you hear footsteps from it’s no different to any other gaming headset, but again that’s my opinion based on my hearing. Compared to something like SteelSeries Arctis Pro Wireless it makes no difference in footsteps distance and loudness. Plus to get the most out of the PC38X you need an amp and it’s not enough just plugging it in the DualSense controller. I personally think gaming headsets have come a long way and definitely much better then they were like even 5 years ago. In my opinion if you’re after pure sound quality equal to studio quality sound and you’re into immersive games, get this headset or any other headphone, but if you’re like me and all you care about is how loud and from how far away you can hear footsteps in games like Warzone, go with something like SteelSeries Arctis Pro Wireless or similar. Plus the sound quality as well on some headsets these days are very good and whilst being wireless.
Is this a joke? I own both the PC38x and the Arctis 7P+ (the top of the line PS5 wireless headset out right now). I even own an HD58x. The sound stage and imaging on the PC38x compared to the Arctis 7P+ is MILES ahead. Hell most of the time I just use my HD58x (with custom cups) and a Yeti mic. Sony gimped the wireless headset connectivity on the PS5 on purpose to force you to use their torture device the 3D Pulse so even the Arctis will have issues with crackling, audio skipping, etc. What Sony didnt skimp out on was the DAC in the DualSense it is FAR superior to the Dualshock on the PS4. The DualSense has absolutely no issues driving either the PC38x or the HD58x to the point where in games like Modern Warfare, Cold War, Warzone I find myself turning the master volume down to about 95%. Footsteps are more distinguishable than the Arctis, 3DPulse, or the other wireless headsets ive tried (recently tried and returned the Razer Kaira Pro - $199). If going wireless is a must and a requirement for you then of course an Arctis 7P will do the job but for me and many others you would be doing yourself a disservice not to factor in far superior headphones like the PC38x/HD58x/HD560 that require a wired connection. At least these headphones will last past 2 years (average lifespan of battery degradation for wireless headsets including top of the line bluetooth headsets like B/O, Bose QC35, Sony WH series).
@@MrGreed2000 Everyone’s hearing is different mate. Plus I said Arctis Pro Wireless not 7P. The 7P is pretty much the same headset as the normal Arctis 7. Pro Wireless is a different beast with a frequency response of 10-40,000Hz high fidelity drivers. I’m not saying the imaging on headsets is better than the PC38X, but it’s not day and night difference. Open back generally doesn’t help with competitive games and in Warzone where you get so many things going on at once, open back headsets dynamic range is to wide and not that great for footsteps in my opinion. Like I said everyone’s hearing is different. I prefer to sacrifice a little bit of the actual sound quality for wireless convenience.
@@famezy9103 hey you said you used this with a mixamp? I have a pair of astros with the mixamp but im looking into getting something else for a friend. wanted to get a mixamp so i can hook it up to discord through an aux can you reccommend anything for me?
@@BillB3737 I don’t think the Astro mix amp has enough juice to power something like a proper headphone. It does have some power, but not like a proper dedicated headphone amp. Have a look online for proper headphone amps, there are plenty. Mayflower Arc is really good. If you’re looking to get something that has good quality sound and great imaging for critical sounds like footsteps, you can two ways… 1- Headphone: You’ll need a headphone that has more emphasis on high end of the frequency as that’s where the footstep range is or you can easily download good EQ softwares to customise any headphone, but that’s if you’re playing on PC. For console, a good amp to power the headphone. Beyerdynamic DT 770 is a popular one and these days you can find them around £100 2- Headset: But not just any headset. I would say Astro A20 punches way above it price tag of £100 and I highly rate it. Astro A40 with mixamp. I didn’t like the Astro A50. My choice would be the SteelSeries Arctis Pro Wired or Wireless. I personally use the Arctis Pro Wireless and it’s amazing. It comes with its own desktop dac that’s the wireless transmitter, but also acts as an amp and it’s infinitely customisable including full EQ adjustments without having to plug it into a PC and has a frequency of 10Hz-40,000Hz. Normally you’ll find that kind of frequency on something like a Beyerdynamic headphone. But like I said in my original comment. No matter how much you spend on a headphone or headset the maximum distance you’ll hear footsteps in games like Warzone is 35 metres. But of course better the headphone or headset, better the actual general sound quality as well as being able to hear the footsteps from that distance. Let’s not forget about volume as well. For example the SteelSeries Arctis Pro Wireless, it gets stupid loud, which also means your ears will hear those frequencies louder. Hope that helps and good luck with your search 😊
I appreciate the review. the mic issue is definitely a bummer. i'm looking for a new headset with great audio and a good mic that doesn't pic up everything. i may have to just go external mic and headphone separately route to get the ideal setup
Too many gatekeepers in Canadian sneaker industry, plus the idea of showcasing products that most people couldn't get didn't sit right with me. I may post one here and there for fun though, just things I get for myself
How is the headset? Heard the Pc38x has a mic echo cause it’s clear and it picks up the background noise from the headset, can anyone confirm this? I play ps5 only
One thing I've read a few times is that the mic is very quiet on these. Wemas it quiet when plugged into the PS5 controller? I'm worried about that because of the buzzing noise that comes through when you crank your mic volume up on there.
Thank you for this review. I was worried the PS5 controller would not power this headset but I am glad to know it not only does that but sounds great too! Now I don't need to buy a different mediocre headset.
Astro A40 def has more customizability options, but the clarity on these is just really good. These are better for overall performance in sound quality, A40 are great for additional features
@@picsoleated Heard the Pc38x has a mic echo cause it’s clear and it picks up the background noise from the headset, can anyone confirm this? I play ps5 only
I need help. New headset $200 max. Using it on Ps5 only (currently no pc access for apps or eq adjustments) Which would you recommend? Primarily fps games. -steelseries 7p+ -Corsair hs80 -PC38x -Turtle beach 700 Or any others…. Reddit says this headset is the best but the wire and the noise picking has me worried
Id avoid turtle beach and corsair. The 7P+ is a good option but it's not without it's problems, look up on Reddit to see the connectivity issues and other problems it can have. I recently bought the Razer Kaira Pro ($199) but the haptics are useless so avoid that. If I were you I would order the Razer Kaira X for PS5 (it's on sale at Gamestop/Amazon for $45) which has the same 50mm drivers in the $199 Pro but is wired. The microphone on the Razer doesnt pick up much noise from breathing or surrounding environment.
What headphones do you recommend for PS5 and Call of Duty that have good sound quality and are comfortable, maximum 310 dollars, that are not too closed headphones?
I think in some aspects it does, but the 7p+ also has it's own benefits, like EQ customization, somewhat better mids highs, however pc38X has better resolution and just clarity overall.
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I tried these with the Mayflower Arc amp and I have to say in terms of pure sound quality it’s one of the best. But in my opinion that’s just for sound quality and when it comes to other aspects of sound like imaging and how far you hear footsteps from it’s no different to any other gaming headset, but again that’s my opinion based on my hearing.
Compared to something like SteelSeries Arctis Pro Wireless it makes no difference in footsteps distance and loudness. Plus to get the most out of the PC38X you need an amp and it’s not enough just plugging it in the DualSense controller.
I personally think gaming headsets have come a long way and definitely much better then they were like even 5 years ago.
In my opinion if you’re after pure sound quality equal to studio quality sound and you’re into immersive games, get this headset or any other headphone, but if you’re like me and all you care about is how loud and from how far away you can hear footsteps in games like Warzone, go with something like SteelSeries Arctis Pro Wireless or similar. Plus the sound quality as well on some headsets these days are very good and whilst being wireless.
Is this a joke? I own both the PC38x and the Arctis 7P+ (the top of the line PS5 wireless headset out right now). I even own an HD58x. The sound stage and imaging on the PC38x compared to the Arctis 7P+ is MILES ahead. Hell most of the time I just use my HD58x (with custom cups) and a Yeti mic. Sony gimped the wireless headset connectivity on the PS5 on purpose to force you to use their torture device the 3D Pulse so even the Arctis will have issues with crackling, audio skipping, etc. What Sony didnt skimp out on was the DAC in the DualSense it is FAR superior to the Dualshock on the PS4. The DualSense has absolutely no issues driving either the PC38x or the HD58x to the point where in games like Modern Warfare, Cold War, Warzone I find myself turning the master volume down to about 95%. Footsteps are more distinguishable than the Arctis, 3DPulse, or the other wireless headsets ive tried (recently tried and returned the Razer Kaira Pro - $199). If going wireless is a must and a requirement for you then of course an Arctis 7P will do the job but for me and many others you would be doing yourself a disservice not to factor in far superior headphones like the PC38x/HD58x/HD560 that require a wired connection. At least these headphones will last past 2 years (average lifespan of battery degradation for wireless headsets including top of the line bluetooth headsets like B/O, Bose QC35, Sony WH series).
@@MrGreed2000 Everyone’s hearing is different mate. Plus I said Arctis Pro Wireless not 7P. The 7P is pretty much the same headset as the normal Arctis 7. Pro Wireless is a different beast with a frequency response of 10-40,000Hz high fidelity drivers.
I’m not saying the imaging on headsets is better than the PC38X, but it’s not day and night difference. Open back generally doesn’t help with competitive games and in Warzone where you get so many things going on at once, open back headsets dynamic range is to wide and not that great for footsteps in my opinion.
Like I said everyone’s hearing is different. I prefer to sacrifice a little bit of the actual sound quality for wireless convenience.
@@famezy9103 hey you said you used this with a mixamp? I have a pair of astros with the mixamp but im looking into getting something else for a friend. wanted to get a mixamp so i can hook it up to discord through an aux can you reccommend anything for me?
@@BillB3737 I don’t think the Astro mix amp has enough juice to power something like a proper headphone. It does have some power, but not like a proper dedicated headphone amp.
Have a look online for proper headphone amps, there are plenty. Mayflower Arc is really good.
If you’re looking to get something that has good quality sound and great imaging for critical sounds like footsteps, you can two ways…
1- Headphone: You’ll need a headphone that has more emphasis on high end of the frequency as that’s where the footstep range is or you can easily download good EQ softwares to customise any headphone, but that’s if you’re playing on PC. For console, a good amp to power the headphone. Beyerdynamic DT 770 is a popular one and these days you can find them around £100
2- Headset: But not just any headset. I would say Astro A20 punches way above it price tag of £100 and I highly rate it. Astro A40 with mixamp. I didn’t like the Astro A50. My choice would be the SteelSeries Arctis Pro Wired or Wireless. I personally use the Arctis Pro Wireless and it’s amazing. It comes with its own desktop dac that’s the wireless transmitter, but also acts as an amp and it’s infinitely customisable including full EQ adjustments without having to plug it into a PC and has a frequency of 10Hz-40,000Hz. Normally you’ll find that kind of frequency on something like a Beyerdynamic headphone.
But like I said in my original comment. No matter how much you spend on a headphone or headset the maximum distance you’ll hear footsteps in games like Warzone is 35 metres. But of course better the headphone or headset, better the actual general sound quality as well as being able to hear the footsteps from that distance. Let’s not forget about volume as well. For example the SteelSeries Arctis Pro Wireless, it gets stupid loud, which also means your ears will hear those frequencies louder.
Hope that helps and good luck with your search 😊
I appreciate the review. the mic issue is definitely a bummer. i'm looking for a new headset with great audio and a good mic that doesn't pic up everything. i may have to just go external mic and headphone separately route to get the ideal setup
are you done with sneaker vids bro? i remember watching your vids in high school when you would review every release
Too many gatekeepers in Canadian sneaker industry, plus the idea of showcasing products that most people couldn't get didn't sit right with me. I may post one here and there for fun though, just things I get for myself
Late to the party but throw a pop filter in the boom mic and it will fix your breathing problem
Pick up this headset day one. My headset before this was PC37x
How is the headset? Heard the Pc38x has a mic echo cause it’s clear and it picks up the background noise from the headset, can anyone confirm this? I play ps5 only
One thing I've read a few times is that the mic is very quiet on these. Wemas it quiet when plugged into the PS5 controller? I'm worried about that because of the buzzing noise that comes through when you crank your mic volume up on there.
are these better then the EPOS H6Pro?
Hey bro I know they're pricey but could you review the audeze penrose for playstation? Great videos by the way honest reviews. 👏
Thank you for this review. I was worried the PS5 controller would not power this headset but I am glad to know it not only does that but sounds great too! Now I don't need to buy a different mediocre headset.
Heard the Pc38x has a mic echo cause it’s clear and it picks up the background noise from the headset, can anyone confirm this? I play ps5 only
@@user-hd2ex9tl8q watch the video you are commenting on
Excellent review. Gonna give them a try.
Hope you enjoy!
loving your small PC 7:20 what kind is it?
Great review, thanks
Do you need AMP/DAC for these or can I plug them into straight to the PS5 controller?
how do these compare to the astro a40 gen4 connected to mixamp and the pc38x plugged into the controller. Mainly for fps game like war zone and apex
Astro A40 def has more customizability options, but the clarity on these is just really good. These are better for overall performance in sound quality, A40 are great for additional features
@@picsoleated Heard the Pc38x has a mic echo cause it’s clear and it picks up the background noise from the headset, can anyone confirm this? I play ps5 only
I hope they drop a neutral colourway.
How would you compare this to the arctis 7+? I just watched your vid on them and was about to buy them before I saw this new vid.
Hi how did you connect these to your PS5 for the test? Did you use a DAC amp, if so which one? Wanting to know so I can get the same.
I connected it directly to the Dualsense controller, no DAC. Dualsense has it's own DAC
@@picsoleated I plugged this headset in and the mic doesn’t work do you know a solution
@@JohnF06any update?
I need help. New headset $200 max. Using it on Ps5 only (currently no pc access for apps or eq adjustments)
Which would you recommend? Primarily fps games.
-steelseries 7p+
-Corsair hs80
-PC38x
-Turtle beach 700
Or any others…. Reddit says this headset is the best but the wire and the noise picking has me worried
Id avoid turtle beach and corsair. The 7P+ is a good option but it's not without it's problems, look up on Reddit to see the connectivity issues and other problems it can have. I recently bought the Razer Kaira Pro ($199) but the haptics are useless so avoid that. If I were you I would order the Razer Kaira X for PS5 (it's on sale at Gamestop/Amazon for $45) which has the same 50mm drivers in the $199 Pro but is wired. The microphone on the Razer doesnt pick up much noise from breathing or surrounding environment.
H6 pro is wired but really good and they have a closed back version and it’s very premium, hs80 is the best value and it has a great mic test
Im also unsure. I dont know if I should pick the 7p+ or the pc38x. I need it for R6. What did u get?
Hi, I had a question for you, which series of steel series headsets is suitable for gaming with iPad, thank you for telling me
I small pop filter fixes the breathing issue on the mic.
Do you guys use this plugged into the controller on ps5?
That's correct
What headphones do you recommend for PS5 and Call of Duty that have good sound quality and are comfortable, maximum 310 dollars, that are not too closed headphones?
Would you say this beats out the arctis 7p+ as far as sound goes ?
I think in some aspects it does, but the 7p+ also has it's own benefits, like EQ customization, somewhat better mids highs, however pc38X has better resolution and just clarity overall.
@@picsoleated How about footsteps n stuff? I heard that footsteps aren't very loud on the pc38x. Is this true?
If you really wanna bring out those headsets then pair it with a mayflower arc mk2 dac/amp and you’ll never look back
Is it better than the Sennheiser GSP 600?
How do these sound compared to the Audeze Penrose?
They sound pretty good my Penrose broke a while back and I miss them
Pc38x vs H6pro?
Heard the Pc38x has a mic echo cause it’s clear and it picks up the background noise from the headset, can anyone confirm this? I play ps5 only
It doesn't have a mic echo, but it'll pick up every breath you take... actually so ridiculous
You can use a USB mic on a PS5
This mic is good for pc players since most of us use discord which we can tweak the mic sensitivity
POV techne is the only person on tiktok that had a bad review of these
PC38X is not from EPOS 👍🏻 It’s DropMass / sennheiser 👍🏻 sennheiser and Epos do not work together anymore.