wonderful, horrible, liberating. this will help so many people confront abusive situations. I know you didn't want to, but your message here will support people in all walks of life. thank you.
This is sadly not surprising. The line between pushing someone to success as a coach or parent (or both) and being either lowkey (or just straight up) abusive is too easy to cross.
They do right to call out this abuse. Too much pressure on these great young men from all corners is such a shame. My heart goes out to all their family members, especially the women who must be sick of this pattern.
Hypothesis: pushing a child to ultimately break world middle distance records is far tougher than hitting them a few times out of frustration or stress. Whilst I have sympathy for the whole family it goes with the territory of extreme performance, as has been evidenced from many other sports e.g. gymnastics, swimming
What a horrible situation to be in as an athlete and as a coach/father. There is a fine line in how far to push an athlete and your child. Those should be two distinct lines. I was also told to never coach a family member or girlfriend/spouse. I crossed that line just once and the end result was not positive. As an athlete I've either experienced some level of verbal abuse by coaches or witnessed it. It's one thing to push an athlete in a positive way and another to break him/her down in a negative way. But there is also a small part of me here that believes this latest generation is the generation of the entitled. For the most part this is the generation that grew up with the "no spanking" sort of mentality. So in these cases even the mildest form of verbal abuse could be easily taken out of context. As I've watched Jacob mature in the sport over the last few seasons and read that his father coached him I told myself there has got to be more to the story than meets the eye. And here it is now. It will be interesting now to see what happens to his running career.
Absolutely tragic. I was an avid follower of the Team Ingebrigtsen series and seen many times how all the brothers have interacted with their family and particularly their father. I can’t see for a second that any of the brothers weren’t confident enough to confront their father. I’m sure Gjert is a good man and doesn’t deserve to be treated like this. I hope they can achieve a reconciliation
He is reported for domestic violence. NOT by the three brothers but someone else in the family. One of the older brother has not done it. So either big brother, little sister, little brother or their mom. It was one event that finally made them do the dessision....
It doesn't take much googling to figure out who he was violent against. Kudos to the three brothers for reacting as all brothers should in that situation. As they themself implied in their letter. It was one thing when it happened to themselves, but seeing a younger sibling being abused they had to put a stop to it.
Nah... One do not become world champions in sports by having 'nice' trainers, and 'nice' training programs. But Gjert as a father should stepped down earlier when the sport got serious and let others carry on as trainers
For what? Do you even know the full details of what happened? It sounds like Henrik disputes what (presumably) Jakob and Philip have spread through the media. Moreover, Gjert has not been arrested for any crime. Do you care to share exactly what you know happened? Do you know?
IF YOU HAD SEEN HIS FATHERS EYES AFTER HE BROKE THE 2MILE RECORD,YOU WOULD LOOK AT THIS SITUATION DIFFERENTLY..IN ORDER TH ACHIEVE WHAT JOKOB HAS AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE ,YOU MUST BE DRIVEN TO THE EDGE OF THE ABYSS..THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JAKOB AND THE OTHER GREAT RUNNERS IS HOW MUCH WORK HE HAS DONE..ASK HIM HE WILL TELL YOU THAT..TRAIN,TRAIN,TRAIN..HE IS ONLY SUCCESSFUL CUZ HE HAS THE ABILITY TO OUT TRAIN ANY OF THE OTHERS,EXCEPT MAYBE YARED NAGUSSE
Come on!!! They are a family which holds world records and global medals. You should be surprised if Gjert behaved in a different manner. Here is one question: Was it worth destroying the inner relationship of your family and your well-being to get some scrap of metal?
It is very possible that they wouldn't reach the top without father's army type approach and discipline. Sad is that sons (men) decided to accuse him publicly.
And this is why domestic voilence stays underwraps . As they said, they are affected by it , it takes 2 to give respect. Just because he is the dad does not mean he has earned it. We don't know the full story and neither should we. If the media left them alone they would not have spoken publicly about it.
He is reported for domestic violence. NOT by the three brothers but someone else in the family. One of the older brother has not done it. So either big brother, little sister, little brother or their mom. It was one event that finally made them do the dessision.... @@oceanxiv
I am 10000% with you, the most important thing is keeping family business in house. Obviously, if there was a crime committed, outside help is needed, but in NO CIRCUMSTANCE is going to the media the solution. It sounds like he was a disciplinarian who used physical methods of parenting and hit the daughter. That's the problem with these vague statements: if you're not willing to share the full details, the public will fill them in for you. The fact is, there are other ways they could have gone about this, since they ultimately need to reconcile with their father. The only thing worse than physical abuse is tearing apart the family unit. As for Gjert: there is no reason why he couldn't achieve the same results without physical discipline, the parenting style needs to be separated from the coaching success in any analysis of the situation. For example, if the physical discipline extends to domestic violence, one of the brothers could temporarily house the victimized individual until Gjert gets therapy. They could even go to the police for help without going to the media and sharing vague details of what occurred, knowing that it would go viral. In reality, we don't even know what actually happened, what we know is that the children accused the father of some sort of violence and abuse. We don't know the extent of the situation, what constitutes "violence" in this instance, or who was the focus of this recent alleged incident. The prudent thing to do is let it play out before demonizing Gjert, especially since the oldest brother has denied that any of this happened as alleged.
@@oceanxivit wasn't the brothers who filed a complaint against him... Someone else in the family did that. In their letter, the brothers actually say that they didn't want to go to media or police, but they had to when Gert was violent to someone else in the family too.
Their father was a bully, who bullied their boys and family, so now the boys are grown so wouldn't they become as the father a bully. So maybe there's some truth that some of the people that are saying that they are bullies. This might just be the case. Like father like son. I don't know personally any of this. I only know that I enjoy watching Jakob run. I am a 1-mile and 1500 m runner. I have learned a lot from watching Jacob run.
Gjert is a engaged, outgoing and tempered man, with a big love for his family and wanting the best for the family. It's not hard to imagine that on occations he has been very engaged and pushed his sons quite hard regarding training and lifestyle. Some of the children are more sensitive than others and have dealt with it in a harder way than others. People do not get wolrd champions by having 'nice' trainers, but need someone pushing them hard. When the sons got 20 years+ or so and their sport got really serious the father should have stepped down earler and let others train them. If the father was a bully for real, his marriage would been over long time ago.
@@Rimrock300it wouldn't be the first time a Mother stod by her husband as the kids were abused. I believe Henrik and the other siblings. They have no reson to lie. Controlling and agressive trainers are not uncommon.
Wives standing by their husbands, that might be so. Not difficult to imagine he has been tough at times, but they would likely not been at the level they are without toughness. He has wished the best for his kids, not been tough out of evil. What's done is done. Kind of silly to take it to the courts, just makes things worse. they are a big family, several grown up kids now, strange they could just not sorted this out within the family, been done with it and moved on. The boys have found nice wives, about to create their own families, and continue their carrieres, seems to be doing well, even with some toughness in their teens from their father. Big boys now, stronger than their father, why not give him a real beating as a 'thank you', shake hands, be done with it. @@Hypotetiskt
You are making too much of it ,he’s a harsh father but i don’t think he’s a bad one , in Africa there are a lot of fathers like that we still love them , when people come from difficult upbringing they behave that way ,you can’t rationalise it, but then discover that they just care too much and have hypertension or other medical conditions , modern western world is right about highlighting the abuses that may happen but drawing some distinctions are important as well.
We don't even know fully what happened. Two brothers came came out to the media and shared half of the details of the alleged incident, but one brother denies anything happened. In no circumstance was going to the media the solution. If a crime took place, Gjert would be under arrest, but he's not. To me, that says that it's a family matter that has no place in the media, since we clearly are filling in all of the details ourselves and concluding that Gjert is the devil. @@jdoveyk9422
I wonder why multiple people have characterized them as bullies. I’m sure all these people are just imagining things and these guys are perfect angels.
Regardless of what happened, I don't like when families take things public. Anything that happens in the family should stay in the family unless a crime is involved. We don't know if a crime was committed, but we do know that Henrik disputes the story of the other brothers and that Gjert is not in jail. If they aren't prepared to share ALL of the details, then they shouldn't go to the media, period. What are they alleging exactly? Did Gjert beat someone so badly that they ended up in the hospital? Did he yell at them and spank them? Did he beat them with an object? Did he do anything at all, or is Henrik the one telling the truth? Nobody knows but the brothers and it makes all the difference. We can't draw reasonable conclusions when the sources withhold the very information needed to evaluate the circumstances.
Jakob got a ton if tattoos in a short period of time. Was this caused by "father stress?" It's really mutilating your body. His tattoos look awful!!! He wasn't at Jacob's recent wedding. Looks like almost none of his family was. Sad.
If you abuse mentally and physically, what do you deserve? They have been fair... And no one is mentioning what triggered the whole thing. My hint is, go back to the first press release when they stopped having Gjert as their coach. This goes deeper, and the brothers want to protect someone in the family. Which what you do.. You take care of family, first! Gjert should learn something here...
This guy stands with child abusers…we should probably look into how imthe1stavenger treats his children. He probably abuses them and thinks it’s normal
If you read the whole statement he did something 2 years ago. Same time his daughter ended her career.. he was probably violent to her, and that was the last straw
Oldest brother is in shock of these claims.. He might have been a tough trainer, but that is not violence when it is in training..I am not buying this. The best victim wins?
He is reported for domestic violence. NOT by the three brothers but someone else in the family. One of the older brother has not done it as you saying. So either big brother, little sister, little brother or their mom. It was one event that finally made them do the dessision to split from him.
Gjert had the proper Oldschool teaching method.... And it worked. Jakob didn't even get the Podium today in the Olympics, since Gjert is no longer the coach
@@threatened2024Not true. Started with Henrik, changed with Filip perfected in Jakob. Without Gjert as the driving force the starting gun never goes off.
So are you trying to validate his behavior towards his kids? Please never coach with that mentality. Oh as long as I create top athletes I can abuse them anyway I see fit? Lol get some critical thinking skills
@@isidoreh1131 It isn’t that black and white. As a father you make tough decisions to help your kids get ahead in life and become good citizens and family members. There is no booklet that children come with that says how to instill discipline. Some kids need strict rules some do not. He went the athletic route almost by chance it seems with Henrik from xc skiing into track. The other boys followed. Running is a grueling sport. It probably would be next to impossible to do what Jakob has done without crossing some lines.
He is reported for domestic violence. NOT by the three brothers but someone else in the family. One of the older brother has not done it. So either big brother, little sister, little brother or their mom. It was one event that finally made them do the dessision to split from him.
But all the father want and his intentions was to raising a champions with lion heart. Maybe his actions was not perfect but at the end, your father always be your father forever🙏
He is reported for domestic violence. NOT by the three brothers but someone else in the family. One of the older brother has not done it. So either big brother, little sister, little brother or their mom. It was one event that finally made them do the dessision....
wonderful, horrible, liberating. this will help so many people confront abusive situations. I know you didn't want to, but your message here will support people in all walks of life. thank you.
This is sadly not surprising. The line between pushing someone to success as a coach or parent (or both) and being either lowkey (or just straight up) abusive is too easy to cross.
They do right to call out this abuse. Too much pressure on these great young men from all corners is such a shame. My heart goes out to all their family members, especially the women who must be sick of this pattern.
Heartbreaking. Hope they all find peace and reconciliation
Hypothesis: pushing a child to ultimately break world middle distance records is far tougher than hitting them a few times out of frustration or stress. Whilst I have sympathy for the whole family it goes with the territory of extreme performance, as has been evidenced from many other sports e.g. gymnastics, swimming
Prevalent in every sport families have to take care to not go down this path
I hope they can still maintain their familial bonds despite this breakup
Sad to hear this.
I was not there so I will reserve judgement.
just like the jackson 5 family.
What a horrible situation to be in as an athlete and as a coach/father. There is a fine line in how far to push an athlete and your child. Those should be two distinct lines. I was also told to never coach a family member or girlfriend/spouse. I crossed that line just once and the end result was not positive. As an athlete I've either experienced some level of verbal abuse by coaches or witnessed it. It's one thing to push an athlete in a positive way and another to break him/her down in a negative way. But there is also a small part of me here that believes this latest generation is the generation of the entitled. For the most part this is the generation that grew up with the "no spanking" sort of mentality. So in these cases even the mildest form of verbal abuse could be easily taken out of context. As I've watched Jacob mature in the sport over the last few seasons and read that his father coached him I told myself there has got to be more to the story than meets the eye. And here it is now. It will be interesting now to see what happens to his running career.
Absolutely tragic. I was an avid follower of the Team Ingebrigtsen series and seen many times how all the brothers have interacted with their family and particularly their father. I can’t see for a second that any of the brothers weren’t confident enough to confront their father. I’m sure Gjert is a good man and doesn’t deserve to be treated like this. I hope they can achieve a reconciliation
He hit his youngest daughter with a wet towel in her face and chased her. She’s in fostercare
He is reported for domestic violence. NOT by the three brothers but someone else in the family. One of the older brother has not done it. So either big brother, little sister, little brother or their mom. It was one event that finally made them do the dessision....
It doesn't take much googling to figure out who he was violent against. Kudos to the three brothers for reacting as all brothers should in that situation.
As they themself implied in their letter. It was one thing when it happened to themselves, but seeing a younger sibling being abused they had to put a stop to it.
Former teammate decided to follow Gjert. Look how they treated him. I wonder why?
who ?
He must be in jail, shame on gjert😢
Nah... One do not become world champions in sports by having 'nice' trainers, and 'nice' training programs. But Gjert as a father should stepped down earlier when the sport got serious and let others carry on as trainers
For what? Do you even know the full details of what happened? It sounds like Henrik disputes what (presumably) Jakob and Philip have spread through the media. Moreover, Gjert has not been arrested for any crime. Do you care to share exactly what you know happened? Do you know?
@@GbawlZ are you giert?
@@hansmiddelburg1366 same question for you
IF YOU HAD SEEN HIS FATHERS EYES AFTER HE BROKE THE 2MILE RECORD,YOU WOULD LOOK AT THIS SITUATION DIFFERENTLY..IN ORDER TH ACHIEVE WHAT JOKOB HAS AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE ,YOU MUST BE DRIVEN TO THE EDGE OF THE ABYSS..THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JAKOB AND THE OTHER GREAT RUNNERS IS HOW MUCH WORK HE HAS DONE..ASK HIM HE WILL TELL YOU THAT..TRAIN,TRAIN,TRAIN..HE IS ONLY SUCCESSFUL CUZ HE HAS THE ABILITY TO OUT TRAIN ANY OF THE OTHERS,EXCEPT MAYBE YARED NAGUSSE
He may be realizing that today.
personal characterizations are reports of events/behavior? Bullying behavior is separate and cupable and not a simplification
Come on!!!
They are a family which holds world records and global medals.
You should be surprised if Gjert behaved in a different manner.
Here is one question:
Was it worth destroying the inner relationship of your family and your well-being to get some scrap of metal?
It is very possible that they wouldn't reach the top without father's army type approach and discipline.
Sad is that sons (men) decided to accuse him publicly.
And this is why domestic voilence stays underwraps . As they said, they are affected by it , it takes 2 to give respect. Just because he is the dad does not mean he has earned it. We don't know the full story and neither should we. If the media left them alone they would not have spoken publicly about it.
He is reported for domestic violence. NOT by the three brothers but someone else in the family. One of the older brother has not done it. So either big brother, little sister, little brother or their mom. It was one event that finally made them do the dessision.... @@oceanxiv
I am 10000% with you, the most important thing is keeping family business in house. Obviously, if there was a crime committed, outside help is needed, but in NO CIRCUMSTANCE is going to the media the solution. It sounds like he was a disciplinarian who used physical methods of parenting and hit the daughter. That's the problem with these vague statements: if you're not willing to share the full details, the public will fill them in for you. The fact is, there are other ways they could have gone about this, since they ultimately need to reconcile with their father. The only thing worse than physical abuse is tearing apart the family unit. As for Gjert: there is no reason why he couldn't achieve the same results without physical discipline, the parenting style needs to be separated from the coaching success in any analysis of the situation.
For example, if the physical discipline extends to domestic violence, one of the brothers could temporarily house the victimized individual until Gjert gets therapy. They could even go to the police for help without going to the media and sharing vague details of what occurred, knowing that it would go viral.
In reality, we don't even know what actually happened, what we know is that the children accused the father of some sort of violence and abuse. We don't know the extent of the situation, what constitutes "violence" in this instance, or who was the focus of this recent alleged incident. The prudent thing to do is let it play out before demonizing Gjert, especially since the oldest brother has denied that any of this happened as alleged.
@@oceanxivit wasn't the brothers who filed a complaint against him... Someone else in the family did that.
In their letter, the brothers actually say that they didn't want to go to media or police, but they had to when Gert was violent to someone else in the family too.
Good video but kind of unfitting music choice
Their father was a bully, who bullied their boys and family, so now the boys are grown so wouldn't they become as the father a bully. So maybe there's some truth that some of the people that are saying that they are bullies. This might just be the case. Like father like son. I don't know personally any of this. I only know that I enjoy watching Jakob run. I am a 1-mile and 1500 m runner. I have learned a lot from watching Jacob run.
Gjert is a engaged, outgoing and tempered man, with a big love for his family and wanting the best for the family. It's not hard to imagine that on occations he has been very engaged and pushed his sons quite hard regarding training and lifestyle. Some of the children are more sensitive than others and have dealt with it in a harder way than others. People do not get wolrd champions by having 'nice' trainers, but need someone pushing them hard. When the sons got 20 years+ or so and their sport got really serious the father should have stepped down earler and let others train them. If the father was a bully for real, his marriage would been over long time ago.
@@Rimrock300it wouldn't be the first time a Mother stod by her husband as the kids were abused.
I believe Henrik and the other siblings. They have no reson to lie. Controlling and agressive trainers are not uncommon.
Wives standing by their husbands, that might be so. Not difficult to imagine he has been tough at times, but they would likely not been at the level they are without toughness. He has wished the best for his kids, not been tough out of evil. What's done is done. Kind of silly to take it to the courts, just makes things worse. they are a big family, several grown up kids now, strange they could just not sorted this out within the family, been done with it and moved on. The boys have found nice wives, about to create their own families, and continue their carrieres, seems to be doing well, even with some toughness in their teens from their father. Big boys now, stronger than their father, why not give him a real beating as a 'thank you', shake hands, be done with it. @@Hypotetiskt
You are making too much of it ,he’s a harsh father but i don’t think he’s a bad one , in Africa there are a lot of fathers like that we still love them , when people come from difficult upbringing they behave that way ,you can’t rationalise it, but then discover that they just care too much and have hypertension or other medical conditions , modern western world is right about highlighting the abuses that may happen but drawing some distinctions are important as well.
the kids are the ones drawing the distinction. As they have the right to, now that they are adults.
Worth noting that the oldest brother that grew up with them said he never experience this
Many times in these situations there is one child that is favored doesn’t mean these things didn’t happen but siblings are not always treated equally.
Ditto…favorites vs scapegoats
that's why he's the slowest
We don't even know fully what happened. Two brothers came came out to the media and shared half of the details of the alleged incident, but one brother denies anything happened. In no circumstance was going to the media the solution. If a crime took place, Gjert would be under arrest, but he's not. To me, that says that it's a family matter that has no place in the media, since we clearly are filling in all of the details ourselves and concluding that Gjert is the devil. @@jdoveyk9422
I wonder why multiple people have characterized them as bullies. I’m sure all these people are just imagining things and these guys are perfect angels.
Then why is the youngest children in fostercare and glad they are finally heard
Regardless of what happened, I don't like when families take things public. Anything that happens in the family should stay in the family unless a crime is involved. We don't know if a crime was committed, but we do know that Henrik disputes the story of the other brothers and that Gjert is not in jail. If they aren't prepared to share ALL of the details, then they shouldn't go to the media, period. What are they alleging exactly? Did Gjert beat someone so badly that they ended up in the hospital? Did he yell at them and spank them? Did he beat them with an object? Did he do anything at all, or is Henrik the one telling the truth? Nobody knows but the brothers and it makes all the difference. We can't draw reasonable conclusions when the sources withhold the very information needed to evaluate the circumstances.
Martin was it not who never experienced any abuse or bad behavior.
Abuse is a crime. Let justice decide.
Jos Verstappen....
Norwegian typo me2
Jakob got a ton if tattoos in a short period of time. Was this caused by "father stress?" It's really mutilating your body. His tattoos look awful!!! He wasn't at Jacob's recent wedding. Looks like almost none of his family was. Sad.
Please don't bring tattoos into this. You just sound stupid. Half tattoos is so common in the younger generations.
I’m sorry his self expression has wounded your prudish sensibilities.
After succeeding their goals they just dropped him like a hot potato. No matter what he did in the past thats not what he deserves.
That is way more than he deserves
No matter what he did before??! Wow!!! Are you serious?😮
If you abuse mentally and physically, what do you deserve? They have been fair... And no one is mentioning what triggered the whole thing. My hint is, go back to the first press release when they stopped having Gjert as their coach. This goes deeper, and the brothers want to protect someone in the family. Which what you do.. You take care of family, first! Gjert should learn something here...
This guy stands with child abusers…we should probably look into how imthe1stavenger treats his children. He probably abuses them and thinks it’s normal
If you read the whole statement he did something 2 years ago. Same time his daughter ended her career.. he was probably violent to her, and that was the last straw
Oldest brother is in shock of these claims.. He might have been a tough trainer, but that is not violence when it is in training..I am not buying this. The best victim wins?
Were you there?
He is reported for domestic violence. NOT by the three brothers but someone else in the family. One of the older brother has not done it as you saying. So either big brother, little sister, little brother or their mom. It was one event that finally made them do the dessision to split from him.
He hits his daughter, and the youngest are now in fostercare and happy they are out.
Gjert had the proper Oldschool teaching method.... And it worked. Jakob didn't even get the Podium today in the Olympics, since Gjert is no longer the coach
their success is only from gjert
without them they would be not good
Thats true he was thier coach and gave them provision to be the best , but he also had a dark side .Sports over a child should never be the case.
@@threatened2024Not true. Started with Henrik, changed with Filip perfected in Jakob. Without Gjert as the driving force the starting gun never goes off.
So are you trying to validate his behavior towards his kids? Please never coach with that mentality. Oh as long as I create top athletes I can abuse them anyway I see fit? Lol get some critical thinking skills
@@isidoreh1131 It isn’t that black and white. As a father you make tough decisions to help your kids get ahead in life and become good citizens and family members. There is no booklet that children come with that says how to instill discipline. Some kids need strict rules some do not. He went the athletic route almost by chance it seems with Henrik from xc skiing into track. The other boys followed. Running is a grueling sport. It probably would be next to impossible to do what Jakob has done without crossing some lines.
@@isidoreh1131 No one is saying that. People aren’t perfect. He was training 3 world class athletes. It takes strict discipline.
Buncha cry babies. Todays society wears pampers
This is a difficult one at least their father left them with something many abusive fathers ONLY destroy. Anyway is this just more fame grabbing?
He is reported for domestic violence. NOT by the three brothers but someone else in the family. One of the older brother has not done it. So either big brother, little sister, little brother or their mom. It was one event that finally made them do the dessision to split from him.
But all the father want and his intentions was to raising a champions with lion heart. Maybe his actions was not perfect but at the end, your father always be your father forever🙏
He is reported for domestic violence. NOT by the three brothers but someone else in the family. One of the older brother has not done it. So either big brother, little sister, little brother or their mom. It was one event that finally made them do the dessision....