The Big-Time Ideas of Small-Time Fighting Games

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  • Опубліковано 18 лис 2024

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  • @Stumblebee
    @Stumblebee  2 роки тому +84

    Since I take a million years off between video releases, I always get comments saying "wow you're back" but y'all can't say that now since I was back last month with a series of interviews at Red Bull Kumite: ua-cam.com/video/dhrFDuQCULw/v-deo.html This project was a ton of fun, but it didn't hit the algorithm in the same way it usually does, so if you haven't seen it, and want to watch another recent video from me that's just as fun as all the other stuff I make, check this out!

    • @Iqzzy-KO
      @Iqzzy-KO 2 роки тому +2

      I wanna try out Two Strikes that looks just like the fighting game I was trying to make! :)

    • @Guitar-Dog
      @Guitar-Dog 2 роки тому

      I'll check out those interviews, I only really play tekken, so hearing a pro talk about guilty fear doesn't really resonate.
      But I'll give them a bash

    • @Daftanemone
      @Daftanemone 2 роки тому

      You’re whole bit about an open world fighting game goes nowhere. Absolver is an open world fighting game you don’t admit it exists

    • @leosharman8630
      @leosharman8630 2 роки тому

      What's your problem with Leon Massey? Jealousy?

  • @beatdowndungeon9601
    @beatdowndungeon9601 2 роки тому +243

    Thank you so much for the mention! Glad to see you enjoying the badge system. And yes, Andrea‘s list of indie fighters is a treasure trove of unique and interesting fighters more people need to check out. Thanks for putting a spotlight on it and his coverage on Supercombo!

    • @Stumblebee
      @Stumblebee  2 роки тому +26

      Don't think I didn't see those PM:TTYD Cursed Chest faces on those buildings in the overworld!

    • @beatdowndungeon9601
      @beatdowndungeon9601 2 роки тому +12

      @@Stumblebee Ah, you got me xD

    • @Daftanemone
      @Daftanemone 2 роки тому

      Please hire a new art director

    • @illford
      @illford 2 роки тому

      @@Daftanemone I really like the art directon lol

    • @Daftanemone
      @Daftanemone 2 роки тому

      The art direction for your game is awful. The rpg aspect of is rad as well as the other game design.

  • @CuteAndFunnyFan
    @CuteAndFunnyFan 2 роки тому +87

    Never knew a fighting game parodied the idea of complex inputs.

  • @monochromesoft
    @monochromesoft 2 роки тому +36

    Thanks so much for showcasing Heatwave!! I'm happy you enjoyed playing it 🥰

  • @napparatus8887
    @napparatus8887 2 роки тому +61

    I HIGHLY suggest looking into Two Strikes. It’s featured at 1:33, and it’s such a cool game to play. I’ve been following development for a long time now, and it’s been so exciting seeing the game come along and grow.

  • @yeszoplusfriends
    @yeszoplusfriends 2 роки тому +32

    Its weird to watch a video about obscure games, and to not only know all of the games but also to be friends with half of the developers.

  • @CrocvsGator
    @CrocvsGator 2 роки тому +100

    I feel like a similar thing is going on in a lot of genres right now, with many indie games coming along and trying new things in a genre, but also aren't tied down by the need to make a quick buck. The Monster Taming genre, games like Pokemon, Digimon, and Shin Megami Tensei, has been getting a lot of unique indie ideas from games like Monster Sanctuary which has collectible creatures in a 2d Metroidvania, to Nexomon Extinction having custom game modes available from a menu as well as allowing you to bypass progression blockers in numerous ways. And then there's been the return of beat em ups', with the new TMNT game, Streets of Rage 4, River City Girls, which yes are all older brands, but they're being made by indie teams. But also there's FPS developments, such as BPM, and other fps rhythm games. And there's a lit of indie 3d platformers coming out a lot recently. Just saying, don't always look at the biggest tree, sometimes take care of the saplings.

  • @bassrhythms3547
    @bassrhythms3547 2 роки тому +40

    Heatwave! I love this game! I used to play this all the time, until i couldn't find people to play it with. I should get back into this game and mess around in training mode. Great video!

    • @yellowslotcar
      @yellowslotcar Рік тому

      Hey! If you're still interested Heatwave has a discord!

  • @aruretheincomprehensible20
    @aruretheincomprehensible20 2 роки тому +17

    BigYellow showed off a fighting game called Nair that seemed really interesting. I haven't played it personally, but you might want to check it out.
    Also interesting is Yomi, a card/fighting game hybrid made by the same people who made Fantasy Strike. It's more card game than fighting game, but it's a really interesting take on how to make a genre hybrid with the fighting game as one of its two genres.

  • @NotLittleBoi
    @NotLittleBoi 2 роки тому +8

    I love how I was just watching your old videos and I wondered when the next one was coming and then literally 20 minutes later I see this

  • @AndreaJensDemetrio
    @AndreaJensDemetrio 2 роки тому +38

    Yoooo! HEATWAVE got the spot!!! And thanks for diving into Motionsickness (and breaking your controller) 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Stumblebee
      @Stumblebee  2 роки тому +16

      No, thank YOU for making an utter bastard of a fighting game! I had a ton of fun making the Motionsickness segment!

    • @AndreaJensDemetrio
      @AndreaJensDemetrio 2 роки тому +9

      The truth is, the idea for Motionsickness was born as a reaction to Fantasy Strike, but I didn't want the game to be fully unplayable, so I came up with the idea of the three styles. Sometimes there are players who tell me that they like the fact that thanks to B style, the game is really accessible to newcomers, but has a high skill ceiling due to the whole idea of sacrificing damage for consistency (+ X-treme mode). I am glad you found that interesting enough to cover it!

    • @AndreaJensDemetrio
      @AndreaJensDemetrio 2 роки тому +14

      @@Stumblebee "a utter bastard of a fighting game"🤣 I think I will place this definition as a badge of honor in the GameJolt page 🤣

    • @DandyCaballero
      @DandyCaballero 2 роки тому +2

      LOOK AT YOU BUDDY! AHHH SO GOOD TO SEE YOU GROWING!

    • @AndreaJensDemetrio
      @AndreaJensDemetrio 2 роки тому +3

      @@DandyCaballero YOOOO! Long time no see!!!! Yeah, i didn't stand idle, always went on following my bizarre ideas, never stopping! BTW, I still owe my discovery of Fatal Fury Real Bout to your videos, I will always be thankful for watching those playthroughs!

  • @warrenbradford2597
    @warrenbradford2597 2 роки тому +5

    “mvci’s open world is about going outside because you not playing the game.”😆

  • @nintendo101ish
    @nintendo101ish 2 роки тому +16

    What ever happened to Fighting Games also being Beat-em-Ups? seems like the easiest and most fluid inclusion to the format

  • @KnightLineArtYT
    @KnightLineArtYT 2 роки тому +10

    Some of these titles do look pretty cool. It's always nice to see indie stuff for fighting games and platformers since they get creative or are at least visually interesting.

  • @ghhn4505
    @ghhn4505 2 роки тому +6

    "Open World Fighting Game"
    *looks at street fighter 6*

  • @GHNeko
    @GHNeko 2 роки тому +2

    Aerial Raver is basically the dev taking one of the most random and barely not nauced enough mechanic from Tasunoku vs Capcom where you get damage boosts the higher you take your combo and how all air combos are called Aerial Raves lmao.
    The whole community collectively went ???????????? when we learned that vertical height affects your damage lmao.
    This game feels like a macrocosm interpretation of that one mechanic.

  • @MrNyagasu
    @MrNyagasu 2 роки тому +9

    Double Dragon is my favorite open world fighting game series. 🙃

  • @sweetwizzle
    @sweetwizzle 2 роки тому +7

    11:06 You mean Schwarzerblitz?
    That aside, always glad to see fighting games do something truly unique. Interesting mechanics can bring so many new people to the genre, relight veterans' interest in it, and highlight its community's creativity on both the dev and player side with mindblowing stuff people didn't think possible. I personally can't wait for Buck Up And Drive! to come out on Steam in just over a week!

  • @LettuceGod1
    @LettuceGod1 2 роки тому +39

    When FilipinoChamp said it was “open world” I immediately thought that he just meant it was a sandbox fighter. Like, it had a lot of freeness of movement and allows for creativity. Like smash bros.

    • @johndewberryiii9925
      @johndewberryiii9925 2 роки тому +6

      That’s how I thought. Like free flowing like skull girls But I just caught wind of a game called Sifu and that looks like it could be a contender for GTA or red dead lol

  • @kawaiiempoleon8721
    @kawaiiempoleon8721 2 роки тому +13

    I've played all of these but it's sick to see someone talk about them

  • @idimation5579
    @idimation5579 2 роки тому +7

    Great to see you back, Stumblebee!

  • @mrpinguimninja
    @mrpinguimninja 2 роки тому +2

    It was probably an overlook, but I think Andrea's list really deserved to be linked as well. The guy is really doing a great service to the genre

  • @bananabike279
    @bananabike279 2 роки тому +8

    Those were some very interesting fighters, Beatdown Dungeon especially looks really cool!
    Aerial Raver's gameplay reminds me of those old Flash games where you would shoot something out of canon and try to keep it in the far for as long as possible lol

  • @yellowslotcar
    @yellowslotcar 2 роки тому +5

    Glad you could cover heatwave!

  • @themadartist1980
    @themadartist1980 2 роки тому +2

    I'm also working on an indie fighting game. Its a rhythm-based fighting game, currently in Alpha, called Rhythm Brawl.
    Its available for free on Steam

  • @TheWordPlay
    @TheWordPlay 2 роки тому +9

    Thanks for giving me some great fighting games to check out! Motion Sickness sounds really interesting and Beatdown Dungeon speaks to my jrpg side

  • @Zeno11Salazar
    @Zeno11Salazar 2 роки тому +4

    So instead of actual open world, you meant an open dynamic with the combo system that really frees players to experiment and chain their own combos together? That's pretty cool.
    However the idea of an open world fighting game gives me a sense of more like a combo based Beat Them Up open world, like Yakuza. Or maybe when fighting does happen, that's when the fighting game aspect swoops in.

    • @ZaWRLD
      @ZaWRLD Рік тому +1

      the only open world fighting game I've played is absolver which is a very good game with its own faults which he did briefly show

  • @tunesntrix
    @tunesntrix 2 роки тому +2

    I feel like the Guacamelee franchise has shades of fighting games in it with single direction inputs for throws

  • @axeoseilez3207
    @axeoseilez3207 2 роки тому +4

    I'm absolutely gonna recommend these at my fight night group i know a few people these would appeal to because all my friends have different playstyles and I could see them enjoy this. I sure as hell am gonna try beatdown dungeon cause that is my dream game a rpg mixed with a fighting game. Sign me the hell up.

  • @geronimobellicoso1438
    @geronimobellicoso1438 2 роки тому +3

    This is SO GOOD, thank you for giving these games a chance!

  • @UrameshiEsquire
    @UrameshiEsquire 2 роки тому +1

    Your reference game in this video is on point bro, I lost count somewhere between "cosmic gumbo" and Brian_F's tourney match win.

  • @AlexLong1000
    @AlexLong1000 2 роки тому +11

    Okay, am I dumb or did you not really explain why you consider Heatwave to be "open world"? Everything you described about it sounds like a bog standard fighting game. I'm confused

    • @jestfullgremblim8002
      @jestfullgremblim8002 2 роки тому +1

      Same here, maybe he was talking about how creative you can get but it still is weird to call it "open world"

  • @kahasy646
    @kahasy646 2 роки тому +1

    I think I'll add in a small idea I had for a fighting game, so basically imagine a game like dbfz but instead of spark you choose a 4th character (that is probably confined to a few master type characters) that has buffed up stats, can't use assists, and only comes in once a 3rd character dies. This isn't the most creative or insane fighting game mechanic but I think it would be cooler than seeing some make a sparking or lvl 3 x-factor comeback

  • @Team18K
    @Team18K 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the feature

  • @Pewpewpew182
    @Pewpewpew182 2 роки тому +2

    Missed you man! Glad to see you back. Merry Christmas and happy new year

  • @warrenbradford2597
    @warrenbradford2597 2 роки тому +1

    I want to create games like them, especially beat-down dungeon.

  • @veto_5762
    @veto_5762 Рік тому +1

    Sorry if I didn't get it but, where's the open world aspect in heatwave?

  • @goldglovegrappler1382
    @goldglovegrappler1382 2 роки тому +1

    Glad the algorithm understands me enough to know this video is my exact shit, especially since I was already in on Beatdown Dungeon. I guess I have something to do with my time until DNF's next beta, cheers.

  • @ghtddkc
    @ghtddkc 2 роки тому

    Happy to see you back with your cool format. Take care

  • @DeronHargrove
    @DeronHargrove 2 роки тому

    Thanks for shouting out these games! might have to try some of em

  • @Ninja-The-Red-Shinobi
    @Ninja-The-Red-Shinobi 2 роки тому +1

    Cerebrawl Shout Outs yeaaaaaaaaah! GOAT as always

  • @IanAnimatesBagels
    @IanAnimatesBagels Рік тому

    YOMI Hustle. You want a revolutionary fighting game made by one guy? YOMI Hustle.

  • @KBash
    @KBash 2 роки тому +3

    Good relationship with your father huh,,,,
    ah ..
    Real though, fun video, nice cuts, professional delivery, good stuff!

    • @Stumblebee
      @Stumblebee  2 роки тому +1

      - looks at your subscriber count -
      - eyes emoji -
      - 100 emoji -

  • @TheMichaelJordanofGambling
    @TheMichaelJordanofGambling 2 роки тому

    At first I thought you were going to discuss a mechanic similar to Bushido Blade where you can flee to other stages in the game.

  • @Se7enRemain
    @Se7enRemain 2 роки тому +4

    Taking issue with 'open world fighting game' when it's clearly analagous to system freedom is the most pedantic shit. Oh my goodness gracious

  • @holdthetruthhostage
    @holdthetruthhostage 2 роки тому

    Wow this video was amazing, as someone working on a Fighting game this was very helpful, hopefully I can contact you one day to check the game out, thank you for this one

  • @viivoid
    @viivoid 2 роки тому

    Yea pretty much everything you've described in Heatwave is in my mod Smash UltiMEX, and I'm also currently making that for Dragon Ball FighterZ

  • @subjectomega7606
    @subjectomega7606 2 роки тому

    5:46 and now I have an idea to make a fighting game called “Autocombo”

  • @sonzaun5262
    @sonzaun5262 2 роки тому +1

    Leon is a genius

  • @Radiant_Veil
    @Radiant_Veil 2 роки тому

    Glad to see you back!

  • @stevencisneros9306
    @stevencisneros9306 2 роки тому

    The likes of Fraymakers, Terrordrome: Reign of the Legends, Cereal Killiaz, & even GigaBash to name a bunch are making waves into the genre with ease!!!

  • @actuallynotsteve
    @actuallynotsteve 2 роки тому

    I've had an idea for an RPG/Fighting Game hybrid (think FF2/3 SNES style, but where random encounters are fighting game matches) since I was like 12 (aka 25 years ago). Seems like you could easily have story driven game with RPG-esque character mechanics that replace the stop and go style of RPG battle with actual matches. Surprised it's never been done, let alone done by a major studio in a AAA title.

  • @ChineseNinjaWarrior
    @ChineseNinjaWarrior 2 роки тому +1

    Soul Calibur and DFO are kinda open world? Soul Calibur has an old school map with random encounters.

  • @chimpzchimpington2006
    @chimpzchimpington2006 2 роки тому

    3:14 Damn, I literally cooked a steak over that roast. Thanks, now I have dinner for tonight.

  • @jestfullgremblim8002
    @jestfullgremblim8002 2 роки тому +3

    Coco melon do be a good show tho

  • @WickedKnightAlbel
    @WickedKnightAlbel 2 роки тому

    Please make this a regular series

  • @kawaiiempoleon8721
    @kawaiiempoleon8721 2 роки тому

    Oh god it feels wierd to see heatwave in a video I love this game so much now especially with the new update this game is just wild

  • @johndewberryiii9925
    @johndewberryiii9925 2 роки тому

    Wow I’ve got to get on PC so I can try these games out. So cool thanks for the recommendations

  • @AuntBibby
    @AuntBibby 2 роки тому +1

    i have bootcamp on my mac laptop now so i should be able to play these…..
    im kinda scared to install new stuff tho 😭

  • @Spaghettaboutit
    @Spaghettaboutit 2 роки тому

    10:24 Okay, fucking do it! Talk for days, I'm in!

  • @lucasbaker4556
    @lucasbaker4556 2 роки тому

    Love that "I Think You Should Leave" reference lol

    • @Stumblebee
      @Stumblebee  2 роки тому +2

      Heyyyy first one to point it out

    • @JSPOT1n0nly
      @JSPOT1n0nly 2 роки тому

      this reference got me to click subscribe! "i get paid 2mil even if i do a bad job....2 mil"

  • @kindasomeviews
    @kindasomeviews 2 роки тому

    If I can shoutout another one. Y'all know about Sonic The Fighters. What if I told you there's a fan game that it's like that but SOOOO much better? Look up Sonic Smackdown ASAP. He even put in Balan recently and he looks busted af

  • @collinvisser7108
    @collinvisser7108 2 роки тому

    So neat - thx for making this,

  • @YakubTheKid
    @YakubTheKid 2 роки тому

    Return of the king

  • @GuardianNewtonTurner
    @GuardianNewtonTurner 2 роки тому +3

    Loved this video, though I was wondering what you thought of Absolver? Oh and 3D Fighters...like are they just dead as far as indies are concerned???

    • @tarsal98
      @tarsal98 2 роки тому +5

      I was looking for 3D indie fighting games. The only one I know is Schwarzerblitz, which was the previous project of the creator of Motionsickness. It has a story mode and interesting things, so I would recommend you check this one out :)

    • @nayyarrashid4661
      @nayyarrashid4661 2 роки тому +2

      I was wondering no one is mentioning Absolver and then I saw this comment

    • @GuardianNewtonTurner
      @GuardianNewtonTurner 2 роки тому

      @@tarsal98 ooooh, yes!!!

    • @GuardianNewtonTurner
      @GuardianNewtonTurner 2 роки тому +1

      @@nayyarrashid4661 I sometimes wonder if Absolver was a fever dream...

    • @nayyarrashid4661
      @nayyarrashid4661 2 роки тому +1

      @@GuardianNewtonTurner I never actually played it but I really liked the idea and the execution was great. But now the same studio is bringing us Sifu and I am waiting for it. I don't have any definite information but I am kind of hoping it has co Op and online competitive gameplay mode. The game draws a lot from Absolver.

  • @Kakomss
    @Kakomss Рік тому

    Andrea Demetrio does a lot for the indie fighting game scene ❤

  • @garbo3562
    @garbo3562 2 роки тому

    Fantastic as always stumble. these are some great games. Thanks!

  • @RhythmLP
    @RhythmLP 2 роки тому

    Welcome back bro!

  • @G_Travel99
    @G_Travel99 2 роки тому

    Such a nice and well done video, it really gave me a lot more insight and things to think about since im developing a fighting game myself.
    Just a question, why you hate down down inputs so much? XD

  • @jumpfold
    @jumpfold 2 роки тому

    I am liking your channel I'm binging it.

  • @drowsyspook3455
    @drowsyspook3455 2 роки тому +1

    Ok time to buy heatwave

  • @dhamstervidya
    @dhamstervidya 2 роки тому

    Thanks for checking out Mega Knockdown. It's a weird game!

  • @yams7355
    @yams7355 10 місяців тому

    4:45 ayo, I Think You Should Leave reference????

  • @Yakuo
    @Yakuo 2 роки тому +1

    ty

  • @Selrisitai
    @Selrisitai Рік тому

    If the graphics ain't great, my urges it won't sate.

  • @slugbones
    @slugbones 2 роки тому

    That's definitely not the dumbest thing Fchamp has ever said.

  • @goodie2shoes874
    @goodie2shoes874 2 роки тому

    Getting into fighting is a little difficult if you don’t have a PS4 or a PC. Xbox and Switch never get the games I really wanna play

  • @lizplays9960
    @lizplays9960 2 роки тому

    Interesting. Would probably try heatwave

  • @arphaxadarphaxad1592
    @arphaxadarphaxad1592 2 роки тому +1

    (10:52) I didn't hear the title of this one. Can you repeat that one more time?

  • @kelbym3710
    @kelbym3710 2 роки тому

    Might have to check out heatwave now! Lol

  • @ShinRaChamploo
    @ShinRaChamploo 2 роки тому

    Damn did my boy Brian F dirty lol

  • @Ramsey276one
    @Ramsey276one 2 роки тому

    6:55 I like that...

  • @Daftanemone
    @Daftanemone 2 роки тому +3

    I’ve rewatched the segment about open world fighters then going into that pixel one multiple times and I still don’t quite see how it relates to the idea of an open world fighter? Especially when you show absolver,an actual open world fighter, on screen.
    A lot of these games look cool but the art direction on many is abysmal.

  • @CasteloOfficial
    @CasteloOfficial 2 роки тому

    Amazing video! I subscribed your channel to receive all news.

  • @Mrxlongshot
    @Mrxlongshot 2 роки тому

    Yo I made a cameo?!!? Lets go!

  • @halo3parade
    @halo3parade 2 роки тому

    heh, he said cosmic gumbo

  • @sebastianlovenhjelm3100
    @sebastianlovenhjelm3100 2 роки тому

    How do you charge up?!? x,D

  • @daglizzygobbler7441
    @daglizzygobbler7441 2 роки тому

    8:02
    That's what she said.

  • @sheipi9978
    @sheipi9978 2 роки тому

    Bbcf is the first open world game

  • @araknair9605
    @araknair9605 2 роки тому

    Thanks

  • @Ramsey276one
    @Ramsey276one 2 роки тому

    11:15 SEVERAL
    I need a new computer...
    Q_q

  • @Ramattus
    @Ramattus 2 роки тому

    Great video! Could you please make a list with the names of the games mentioned? Sorry but my english is not good enough to get all the names...

    • @Stumblebee
      @Stumblebee  2 роки тому +3

      It's in the description!

    • @Ramattus
      @Ramattus 2 роки тому +1

      @@Stumblebeemy bad. Thank you! Great job!

    • @Stumblebee
      @Stumblebee  2 роки тому +3

      @@Ramattus no problem! Glad I thought to put that list together! Thanks for watching!

  • @alliahcherry6721
    @alliahcherry6721 2 роки тому

    RUSHDOWN REVOLT BAYBEEEEE

  • @thisistherun4015
    @thisistherun4015 2 роки тому

    Nice video

  • @DuskMindAbyss
    @DuskMindAbyss 2 роки тому +1

    Man, a fightikg game rpg is such a cool idea, i love it

  • @OniBoiXD
    @OniBoiXD 2 роки тому

    great video 🤗

  • @Ramsey276one
    @Ramsey276one 2 роки тому

    5:25 ??
    What is the problem? Timing?

  • @Ramsey276one
    @Ramsey276one 2 роки тому

    This has to get to Switch... PLEASE!

  • @rafaelcamargoalves3242
    @rafaelcamargoalves3242 2 роки тому

    What is the name of the game you showed at 3:40?

    • @Team18K
      @Team18K 2 роки тому +1

      Heatwave

  • @Ramsey276one
    @Ramsey276one 2 роки тому

    10:50 waitWUT?!