They didn't teach the backcut when I went through the class. They stress the the safety of the bore cut. No barberchair. The bore cut seams to be the way around here. I have been using it since the class and I am a convert. But you have to read the tree very good.
I believe what Buckin is referencing is do the instructors teach back cutting first and banging a wedge BEFORE making your notch, so as to avoid having a tree come over backwards on you the way this one did. I do not believe that is taught at any level of GOL but haven't been through the courses myself so I can't say for sure
@@AmateurLogger you are correct I had to rewatch that part. Wade talk about that tree at the start of the video. So I didn't pay that much attention to how he cut that tree. They said that it was leaning way to far to try that.
Howdy Logger Wade. Buckin' Billy sent me your way. Enjoyed this video and I also watched the one with the triple hinge Red Oak and White Oak. Found them all very informative. Reckon I would be in trouble with your instructors too as I drop start my saw 99% of the time.
Hey my brother my name is Christian and me and the whole buckin army want to tell you that we appreciate you and love you brother. What a great channel love your content. God bless you.
That ol’ Logger Wade’s always goofin’ but when the saw starts it’s all bidness... I grew up watching my grandpa and his friends cuttin down trees for firewood but I never knew how scientific it all was til now!! Thanks for bringing back such great memories!!
I took GOL training about 5 years ago and hosted a class last fall with the same trainer. I wasn’t enrolled as a student but he put me on the spot and had me explain how a chain cuts which I nailed - had seen Ironhorse explain it a few weeks before that! He Also asked me what HELP stood for... I choked on that as I operate on auto-pilot and do those things automatically now without thinking about the acronym... I lent my saw to a kid who had about an hour running a saw under his belt. When the trainer was looking over the saws mine was the only sharp one of the bunch. I was happy about that as my hand filing has really improved over the years. I noticed some differences between your training and my GOL training... 70 degrees vs 90 for one thing. Good stuff!
That was awesome!, I'm not a logger but have a lot of trees to take care of on the farm from storm damage and Ash die off for firewood. Lots of great info on the channel. Thank you sir.
At least those guys doing your recert look like they have spent some serious time on a saw, unlike the 24 year old uni grad we had turn up once to try and tell us how to use a saw. He had never worked in the field with one, his only experience was when he got training to be a trainer. He had 4 years at university for forestry then did a course to become a trainer that was another 12 weeks. Needless to say he got sent packing by the boss.
Hadn’t heard of this channel before, but just watched a video by Buckin and he said to have a look. Glad I did! Quite interesting to see how things are done over there. Peace from the UK
Joe and arron is actually how I first heard about you. Hearing joe talk about you was hilarious so I had to check you out for my self. I'm not a logger but I took the class to learn and be more educated. Joe really knows his stuff and arron is legit!!
tell em no offense but if you need a perfect bunch buy a buncher lol !!!!! geeze that looked good from 50 yards on a galloping horse lol !!!! great vid buddy me & mammy both learnt today whilst drinking the morning cuppa !!!!!
Wade great job! We all learn from each other. The good and the bad. Like drop starting my saw. I do it all the time... In fact I taught my 73 year old father how to do it. He says it's easier for him. But I would never ride on top of tiny... Especially with Stevie driving. And after he rolled the log truck... Lol Ya know it's a good thing you where that little tin hat.. that way it don't hurt so much when your mom hits you with a stick on the head. My mom would, and then say stop that you got little ones at home. As she walked away saying I hope they take after their momma... Lol
This looks like a great class, what would they say about the Humboldt? Am I seeing correctly that the back cut is made on each yalf, then released at the end? Makes me want to learn more...Buckin sentbmevover, like the happiness and sincerity of the learning experiences shown here
I've only ever cut a few big branches with an electric chain saw so I'm not even a beginner logger but I'd like to take one of those classes maybe two because I never know when that info can come in handy
Chainsaws lol no machines. Training days are very useful. Sadly over here very few and far between. Seems everyone did well.great video. Regards to the family and crew from across the pond
Would’ve been awesome to have a chance to meet you there in get a chance to watch you and learn something from the teachers and you and I know it’s a logging logging certification not start logging Would’ve just been nice to get a chance to do that
Just from this short video I learned somthin and by all means iam not a faller iam just a hack just tryen to get fire wood and make it home somewhat in one peace
@@Syncop8rNZ Well what you said sort of confirms/validates what I thought they were saying... except the "P"=Plan and "S"=Size ... but that does make sense. And it seemed to me the whole thing was HELPSOS ... with the OS=Oh, Shucks ... as in an extreme/unexpected emergency escape plan
I converted to starting between my legs after a pretty good scolding from an experienced oldtimer. I find its much easier on my shoulders and doesn't take hardly any more time. Just my .02
@@cshaffer2904 If your chain brake is off or fails and that saw starts and swings around with the throttle lock on it will tear into your leg at full throttle. Sometimes you just have to drop start but most times it can be avoided. Can start it on the ground but you risk your chain hitting rocks and dirt. Pinning the saw in between your legs just above the knee is the most controlled and safest way. It wont work in every situation but does most of the time.
*WARNING* *LONG* *COMMENT* *BELOW* - Nothing for nothing *wade* this has nothing to do with you; but i'd like to formally apologize 1st be4 I start crying & complaining in your youtube(s) comment section. *FIRSTLY* i'd like to mention I stopped watching morning television(& television all-together)due to the over abundant amount of commercial ads while trying to watch your favorite morning cartoon(s). Therefore when I discovered *youtube(s)* - I immediately began "operation t.v boycott(est. 2017)" I sign-picketed and everything. Unfortunately I was the only guy to receive the memo; BUT regardless I felt fulfilled in my Endeavor. *NOW* (present day) youtube's become the same monster as television - I realize it's a double edge sword, creators have to get paid for their creations; but i still believe we could get creators paid w/out having to sell their intellectual property to some commercial-ads campaign company... Once again this has nothing to do with *Logger* *Wade* I thoroughly enjoy his content and watch his videos on the channel almost everyday, and that fact(as long as the channel still exists)will never change. If you decided to read this, I sincerely appreciate you providing and allowing those to vent their current emotions via your channel's comment section ;-)...
I got to say that I am disappointed as this was a laugh class and no serious training. Stuff about snags or swinging a tree or doing any jacking, stuff about two trees locked in the air. I cut timber on the olympic peninsula where thirty foot on the stump castle top cedar with more hemlock growing out of the tops and plumb dangerous. We averaged a dead man a month back in the fifties and sixties. Thank god that has improved with better tools and no more single jacking. Most cutters grew up with their dad and seen their dad killed or crippled for life. Come spring and hit birch or maple and the sap running, trees would barber chair, that along killed more than the snags. I have cut holes in the side of those big hollow trees and cut from the inside because it was the only safe place to be. A little duff would fall on you and sometimes spook you and if it was bad enough, we grabbed powder and blew them off the stump. I made a worst rookie mistake you could make and cut a tree clear off and when it fell, it rolls a bit then as it come down the tree road the stump and shot backwards as good as twenty foot so it wood of got me was I standing straight behind but which way was it coming off the stump??? My way of course and if they hadn't been a small indent there in the ground it would of got me as I dropped in the swell or indent I guess would be a better way of saying I near was dead but it just jerked my coat sleeve as it swung over me in that indent and it happened so quick that there was no thinking about it. I still don't know why I'm here! You do better videos Wade but you get a like from cause I think you know what I am talking about
31:35 sincere question.. are you men not taught back cut first? love you logger wade.. i am comin ta see you this year hugs to the family
They didn't teach the backcut when I went through the class. They stress the the safety of the bore cut. No barberchair. The bore cut seams to be the way around here. I have been using it since the class and I am a convert. But you have to read the tree very good.
I believe what Buckin is referencing is do the instructors teach back cutting first and banging a wedge BEFORE making your notch, so as to avoid having a tree come over backwards on you the way this one did. I do not believe that is taught at any level of GOL but haven't been through the courses myself so I can't say for sure
@@AmateurLogger you are correct I had to rewatch that part. Wade talk about that tree at the start of the video. So I didn't pay that much attention to how he cut that tree. They said that it was leaning way to far to try that.
Love ya buddy
@@AmateurLogger interesting
Thanks for posting this Wade. I found it very interesting!
Went through that class with Joe and Aaron about 2 years ago. Good guys can teach everybody something.
Howdy Logger Wade. Buckin' Billy sent me your way. Enjoyed this video and I also watched the one with the triple hinge Red Oak and White Oak. Found them all very informative. Reckon I would be in trouble with your instructors too as I drop start my saw 99% of the time.
Hey my brother my name is Christian and me and the whole buckin army want to tell you that we appreciate you and love you brother. What a great channel love your content. God bless you.
That ol’ Logger Wade’s always goofin’ but when the saw starts it’s all bidness... I grew up watching my grandpa and his friends cuttin down trees for firewood but I never knew how scientific it all was til now!! Thanks for bringing back such great memories!!
I took GOL training about 5 years ago and hosted a class last fall with the same trainer. I wasn’t enrolled as a student but he put me on the spot and had me explain how a chain cuts which I nailed - had seen Ironhorse explain it a few weeks before that! He Also asked me what HELP stood for... I choked on that as I operate on auto-pilot and do those things automatically now without thinking about the acronym...
I lent my saw to a kid who had about an hour running a saw under his belt. When the trainer was looking over the saws mine was the only sharp one of the bunch. I was happy about that as my hand filing has really improved over the years.
I noticed some differences between your training and my GOL training... 70 degrees vs 90 for one thing. Good stuff!
That was awesome!, I'm not a logger but have a lot of trees to take care of on the farm from storm damage and Ash die off for firewood. Lots of great info on the channel. Thank you sir.
I still learn stuff from those classes.
A cooperative of knowledge comes in handy.
ha, that instructor is a good-natured fellow with lots of patience!
At least those guys doing your recert look like they have spent some serious time on a saw, unlike the 24 year old uni grad we had turn up once to try and tell us how to use a saw. He had never worked in the field with one, his only experience was when he got training to be a trainer. He had 4 years at university for forestry then did a course to become a trainer that was another 12 weeks. Needless to say he got sent packing by the boss.
Hadn’t heard of this channel before, but just watched a video by Buckin and he said to have a look. Glad I did! Quite interesting to see how things are done over there. Peace from the UK
Good class!! Everyone needs to go through a class like that because everybody can/needs learn!!
I'm a simple man. I see Logger Wade video, I click the thumbs up. 👍
Thanks buddy I need all the help I can get
@@LoggerWade That most I seen Puddin for a long time.
I really enjoyed this video. We cut a lot of trees for running on a woodmizer and for firewood. Learned a lot. Especially on the double.
Joe and arron is actually how I first heard about you. Hearing joe talk about you was hilarious so I had to check you out for my self. I'm not a logger but I took the class to learn and be more educated. Joe really knows his stuff and arron is legit!!
tell em no offense but if you need a perfect bunch buy a buncher lol !!!!! geeze that looked good from 50 yards on a galloping horse lol !!!! great vid buddy me & mammy both learnt today whilst drinking the morning cuppa !!!!!
Haha
Joe is an awesome instructor he is very talented and knowledgeable. Just a little curious to know what's he doing all the way up there?
You guys did good. Found out I was a little rusty, cut 8 trees hung up 5. Finally pulled 3 down and two to go.
Wade great job! We all learn from each other. The good and the bad. Like drop starting my saw. I do it all the time... In fact I taught my 73 year old father how to do it. He says it's easier for him. But I would never ride on top of tiny... Especially with Stevie driving. And after he rolled the log truck... Lol
Ya know it's a good thing you where that little tin hat.. that way it don't hurt so much when your mom hits you with a stick on the head. My mom would, and then say stop that you got little ones at home. As she walked away saying I hope they take after their momma... Lol
Got a heads-up on your channel from Buckin’, great video! I’m in!
Thanks bud
Fantastic video, love watching.
A solid D- is passing in my book! Congratulations on your certification,Champ!👍
Hell of a video , what about showing a forked tree with fork 8 or 10 feet up the tree?
20 000 for fallers training in British Columbia I wish I could take the course love running saw. Great video wade
This looks like a great class, what would they say about the Humboldt? Am I seeing correctly that the back cut is made on each yalf, then released at the end? Makes me want to learn more...Buckin sentbmevover, like the happiness and sincerity of the learning experiences shown here
I've only ever cut a few big branches with an electric chain saw so I'm not even a beginner logger but I'd like to take one of those classes maybe two because I never know when that info can come in handy
Buckin steered me your way! I’m lovin’ the content, I just subscribed!
Thanks buddy
Love the channel Logger Wade
Thanks buddy
These guys are great had the class last year
Chainsaws lol no machines. Training days are very useful. Sadly over here very few and far between. Seems everyone did well.great video. Regards to the family and crew from across the pond
Buckin' Billy sent me. Great videos Wade
Only thing I am surprised the class didnt tell anyone is... when you are cutting... keep looking up often for safety in case of widowmaker?
Where was stevie? Or was he teaching another class around the hill ?
Just in this one video I learned alot . Thanks wade .
Good show Wade! Enjoyed watching this , I cut 6 maples down at once, don't have it on tape, and its a long story so don't ask. lol Take care
Hey thank you for sharing this video some real good advise for me thank you , amazing video
Theses trainers are very good!
Good Vidget, didn’t realize they made you take classes, Nanny States in everyone’s business, Would agree on mandatory Widow Makers class! Lol
Buckin Sent me Time to binge watch your video's....
Sounds like ol high school days. Talking about length and picking at the teacher 🤣 great vidja driver
Excellent video Wade ! Looks like a tulip tree on the demo ??
Gotta love those mandatory trainings every year.
Your a monster with that saw!
Nice drop start at 19:00. Did ya show of ur fancy ol triple hinge?
Good vodka. Very informative
That was a fun video just a bunch of old boys having fun.
Logger wade buckin sent us over to say hi and thank you
Hello from all Buckins friends!
I'm just going to say 👍👍 👍 East coast
I'll watch the rest of the video tomorrow 😊
who makes you take the class.this was very interesting.would love to see more in-depth of this
casy casy the state of Indiana. It’s a requirement for working on state land
A 572 with a 3 footer would have owned that double. What were you thinking bringing that 395.😀
I wish I would have know about this class I would love to have been there I could use a refresher
Looks like your dressed to ride a bucking bull Logger Wade. LOL
Wade you learnt to-day looks like they knew their stuff.
Ayo how you doin buckin sent me here to stop on by and say hello and watch some of your videos eh
I dont know about your channel but that commercial of Brandon Tatum is fire and we would be alright if all black folks thought like that
Joe was the instructor for the chainsaw course at the Indiana Hardwood expo correct?
Yeah
That was a good learning video 👍
Looks like alot of fun
You gonna learn today. 😄
thanks for sharing
Great job
Would’ve been awesome to have a chance to meet you there in get a chance to watch you and learn something from the teachers and you and I know it’s a logging logging certification not start logging Would’ve just been nice to get a chance to do that
Just from this short video I learned somthin and by all means iam not a faller iam just a hack just tryen to get fire wood and make it home somewhat in one peace
Wade what kind of chain do you run on puddin?
Good stuff !!!
Man this is some good stuff right here 👌
Hey Wade
I like the video.
I’m at 11:35 and think they will both go so I’m betting for you buddy
Good one
Buckin billy sent me here
Drop starting ftw👌👌
What exactly does the "HELPS" acronym stand for?
Hazards
Egress/Escape
Lean
Plan?
Size
@@Syncop8rNZ Thanks!
@@scatoutdebutter I don't know for sure but that's what I think they were saying.
@@Syncop8rNZ Well what you said sort of confirms/validates what I thought they were saying... except the "P"=Plan and "S"=Size ... but that does make sense.
And it seemed to me the whole thing was HELPSOS ... with the OS=Oh, Shucks ... as in an extreme/unexpected emergency escape plan
I think they were jealous of puddin 😂
Thats what I said
Does every state have this class?
Yeah look on your state's DNR website
@@LoggerWade
Thank you
Man, drop starting is the only way I'll start a chainsaw. It's way too hard anyway else
I converted to starting between my legs after a pretty good scolding from an experienced oldtimer. I find its much easier on my shoulders and doesn't take hardly any more time. Just my .02
Can someone explain drop starting, why it's wrong, and the alternatives?
@@cshaffer2904 If your chain brake is off or fails and that saw starts and swings around with the throttle lock on it will tear into your leg at full throttle. Sometimes you just have to drop start but most times it can be avoided. Can start it on the ground but you risk your chain hitting rocks and dirt. Pinning the saw in between your legs just above the knee is the most controlled and safest way. It wont work in every situation but does most of the time.
Thank you, pin it with the bar going forward in front of you? Does that mean you have to pull with the left hand? I appreciate the help
@@cshaffer2904 No left hand on the handle and right hand cross body. Helps stop from pulling your rip cord out all the way and snapping that off too.
"Face" lol!
Tater says I'm gonna do what I do best.....showin off
Pretty much
Buckin sent me 😏
First !
Second
Hey bud love your channel keep up the good work I just started my own channel it wood be cool if u checked it out
*WARNING* *LONG* *COMMENT* *BELOW* - Nothing for nothing *wade* this has nothing to do with you; but i'd like to formally apologize 1st be4 I start crying & complaining in your youtube(s) comment section. *FIRSTLY* i'd like to mention I stopped watching morning television(& television all-together)due to the over abundant amount of commercial ads while trying to watch your favorite morning cartoon(s). Therefore when I discovered *youtube(s)* - I immediately began "operation t.v boycott(est. 2017)" I sign-picketed and everything. Unfortunately I was the only guy to receive the memo; BUT regardless I felt fulfilled in my Endeavor.
*NOW* (present day) youtube's become the same monster as television - I realize it's a double edge sword, creators have to get paid for their creations; but i still believe we could get creators paid w/out having to sell their intellectual property to some commercial-ads campaign company...
Once again this has nothing to do with *Logger* *Wade* I thoroughly enjoy his content and watch his videos on the channel almost everyday, and that fact(as long as the channel still exists)will never change. If you decided to read this, I sincerely appreciate you providing and allowing those to vent their current emotions via your channel's comment section ;-)...
I got to say that I am disappointed as this was a laugh class and no serious training. Stuff about snags or swinging a tree or doing any jacking, stuff about two trees locked in the air. I cut timber on the olympic peninsula where thirty foot on the stump castle top cedar with more hemlock growing out of the tops and plumb dangerous. We averaged a dead man a month back in the fifties and sixties. Thank god that has improved with better tools and no more single jacking. Most cutters grew up with their dad and seen their dad killed or crippled for life. Come spring and hit birch or maple and the sap running, trees would barber chair, that along killed more than the snags. I have cut holes in the side of those big hollow trees and cut from the inside because it was the only safe place to be. A little duff would fall on you and sometimes spook you and if it was bad enough, we grabbed powder and blew them off the stump. I made a worst rookie mistake you could make and cut a tree clear off and when it fell, it rolls a bit then as it come down the tree road the stump and shot backwards as good as twenty foot so it wood of got me was I standing straight behind but which way was it coming off the stump??? My way of course and if they hadn't been a small indent there in the ground it would of got me as I dropped in the swell or indent I guess would be a better way of saying I near was dead but it just jerked my coat sleeve as it swung over me in that indent and it happened so quick that there was no thinking about it. I still don't know why I'm here! You do better videos Wade but you get a like from cause I think you know what I am talking about