CONTEXT IS CRITICAL HERE. Mild dissociation like zoning out or daydreaming are things almost everyone experiences from time to time, and, on their own, do not indicate borderline personality disorder. Compare the following scenarios: A) You’re on a long bus ride and you’re bored, so you start zoning out, doom scrolling to pass the time VS. B) you just got some upsetting news and start zoning out while in the middle of a conversation and miss half of what the other person said While the average person may experience either of these, scenario B is much more likely to occur for those of us with BPD. The lack of control over dissociation is a big part of what makes it a symptom of BPD. It’s also important to mention that dissociative disorders are highly co-occurring with BPD. So, some people who have both BPD and a DD may experience even more severe dissociative symptoms.
I engage in dissociative daydreams- also known as immersive daydreaming. I literally create people in my head to hold my emotions, or sometimes they’re emotions from a certain point in time that feel very intense and painful, so they’re embodied in that person I created. Think like “characters” but they’re a bit more than that, so I don’t like calling them that.
Kinda reminds me of what I do. Each year is a new person, and I communicate with each previous version of myself on how we're doing and were we are going and what we want to do, and I have a unique relationship with each of them as they do with eachother, I've always maladaptive daydreamed and created distinctive people in my own mind to keep me company, but I started doing this age division thing specifically when I was 18, I'm 24 now, I'm trying to be someone 25 can be proud of, and I've got 23 of me routing me on, even though I am alone, It's nice to feel like I'm not.
I have D.I.D which is disassociative identity disorder this is what is feels like but the closest thing I would actually compare it to is dreaming where u can see and hear everything happening but u have no control over anything and when u wake up u cant remember it except bits and pieces if that
For me, this is like really severe brain fog. I know that I know things, but trying to retrieve the information is kind of like I’m digging through layers of gauze.
For me it feels like I have foam padding or cotton balls in between my brain and my skull it's like a layer surrounding surrounding my brain but "thicker layer" at the top of my head and in turn it makes it hard to focus it makes it hard to keep my train of thought and also to comprehend incoming information. And I often find myself having to either press my fingernails into the top of my head or pull hair tightly a couple of times in order to feel all the way through my head again because it feels like it's numb on the top of my head it's hard to describe. It gives me a headache and feel spaced out.
Yep. I glare into people's eyes while they speak to me as I'm in my own world. It probably looks scary to them.😂 I also forget chunks of an event that happened 1 hour ago.
I’m so sorry in advance if this comes off as rude, but that isn’t entirety true. While you were absolutely right on the money with depersonalization and derealization, dissociation is not having alters; dissociation is more of an umbrella term that encapsulates the other terms (e.g. derealization is a type of dissociation), and the term itself more or less refers to the general disconnect that someone may have to their thoughts, feelings, behaviors, body, and or environment. What you were describing as dissociation would be more along the lines of identity alteration which is a type of dissociation that is seen with disorders like DID or OSDD :D
Just so I’m on the same page as everyone else, bpd usually is referring to borderline personality disorder, yes? I get confused when reading bpd because I wonder sometimes if they mean bipolar disorder, even tho I’m pretty sure bpd usually means borderline. In which case what’s the common abbreviation for bipolar? Is there one at all? Also very informative, thank you for sharing!
Bipolar disorder would just be BP, though I know they seem similar and it can be confusing, that’s why most people just refer to BPD as borderline personality disorder and the other just bipolar disorder without the abbreviation or anything.
So what if the daydreaming is to such a point where you can get so lost in thought, that you lose your senae of time, you're aware you are daydreaming but unable to stop and the daydreaming is almost always about past life events that you can remember with such vivid detail its akin to watching a movie? Also besides happening randomly when you are alone, it 95% of the time happens when you shower 😅 (shower thoughts to the extreme 😅)
CONTEXT IS CRITICAL HERE.
Mild dissociation like zoning out or daydreaming are things almost everyone experiences from time to time, and, on their own, do not indicate borderline personality disorder.
Compare the following scenarios:
A) You’re on a long bus ride and you’re bored, so you start zoning out, doom scrolling to pass the time
VS.
B) you just got some upsetting news and start zoning out while in the middle of a conversation and miss half of what the other person said
While the average person may experience either of these, scenario B is much more likely to occur for those of us with BPD. The lack of control over dissociation is a big part of what makes it a symptom of BPD.
It’s also important to mention that dissociative disorders are highly co-occurring with BPD. So, some people who have both BPD and a DD may experience even more severe dissociative symptoms.
This right here 👏
Dissociation is a pretty common symptom for a lot of mental illnesses and disorders. Mine is a side effect of my PTSD and ADHD.
I engage in dissociative daydreams- also known as immersive daydreaming. I literally create people in my head to hold my emotions, or sometimes they’re emotions from a certain point in time that feel very intense and painful, so they’re embodied in that person I created. Think like “characters” but they’re a bit more than that, so I don’t like calling them that.
That is so interesting
Kinda reminds me of what I do. Each year is a new person, and I communicate with each previous version of myself on how we're doing and were we are going and what we want to do, and I have a unique relationship with each of them as they do with eachother, I've always maladaptive daydreamed and created distinctive people in my own mind to keep me company, but I started doing this age division thing specifically when I was 18, I'm 24 now, I'm trying to be someone 25 can be proud of, and I've got 23 of me routing me on, even though I am alone, It's nice to feel like I'm not.
@@georob7260I think I kinda get what you mean
That is really interesting! Thanks for sharing. ❤ @@georob7260
These are great examples. Also I love that outfit /shrug.
i dont have bpd but i experience things that those examples describe rlly well
Disassociation is a common symptom among many mental conditions
These are perfect examples to help me understand what's going on with my wife thank you so much
I have D.I.D which is disassociative identity disorder this is what is feels like but the closest thing I would actually compare it to is dreaming where u can see and hear everything happening but u have no control over anything and when u wake up u cant remember it except bits and pieces if that
......🫣😬
What does the cotton ball one mean? Can anyone explain what it feels like?
For me, this is like really severe brain fog. I know that I know things, but trying to retrieve the information is kind of like I’m digging through layers of gauze.
For me it feels like I have foam padding or cotton balls in between my brain and my skull it's like a layer surrounding surrounding my brain but "thicker layer" at the top of my head and in turn it makes it hard to focus it makes it hard to keep my train of thought and also to comprehend incoming information. And I often find myself having to either press my fingernails into the top of my head or pull hair tightly a couple of times in order to feel all the way through my head again because it feels like it's numb on the top of my head it's hard to describe. It gives me a headache and feel spaced out.
I’ve never heard the cotton ball analogy, but I always say my brain feels fuzzy
i felt the lightning of the brain like cloudy foggy but also rapid firing like a highly anxious/manic state
What I thought were my "Geminis traits" it's actually BPD 😂😂😂😂
(Joke)
Haha same here but Scorpio✨
Is this your song Xannie? Did you write it? Are you singing?
Yes! Xannie and Solène are in a music duo together, this is part of their song on dissociation and paranoia in BPD
Love this song.
@@thebpdbunch I would love to know where I can listen to them! I would love to hear more of this song
@thebpdbunch wow! So cool! Go you guys 🤩
Same
The way I checked off every example
Its a bit of an aside (i do dissociate mildly but i kind of wish i was better at it frankly) , but MAN what a little slice of pie 🔥
what can i do to help someone close to me with bpd?
Yep. I glare into people's eyes while they speak to me as I'm in my own world. It probably looks scary to them.😂 I also forget chunks of an event that happened 1 hour ago.
Ok but wtf is that song and that dance
Why do I check all of the examples? ToT Do I have to worry about it?
That's me...
Derealization- feeling like reality isn't real
Depersonalization-feeling like your body isn't real
Dissociation-switching personalizes/Alters
I’m so sorry in advance if this comes off as rude, but that isn’t entirety true. While you were absolutely right on the money with depersonalization and derealization, dissociation is not having alters; dissociation is more of an umbrella term that encapsulates the other terms (e.g. derealization is a type of dissociation), and the term itself more or less refers to the general disconnect that someone may have to their thoughts, feelings, behaviors, body, and or environment. What you were describing as dissociation would be more along the lines of identity alteration which is a type of dissociation that is seen with disorders like DID or OSDD :D
Okay but...whats this song??
It’s an original song by two of our cast members! Full version will be released end of 2024/early 2025
Annoying AF is what it is
Not feeling temperature is another one for me. Is my shower too hot? I don’t know
Just so I’m on the same page as everyone else, bpd usually is referring to borderline personality disorder, yes?
I get confused when reading bpd because I wonder sometimes if they mean bipolar disorder, even tho I’m pretty sure bpd usually means borderline.
In which case what’s the common abbreviation for bipolar? Is there one at all?
Also very informative, thank you for sharing!
Im pretty sure it's bipolar disorder in this context?
Borderline Personality Disorder
Bipolar disorder would just be BP, though I know they seem similar and it can be confusing, that’s why most people just refer to BPD as borderline personality disorder and the other just bipolar disorder without the abbreviation or anything.
So what if the daydreaming is to such a point where you can get so lost in thought, that you lose your senae of time, you're aware you are daydreaming but unable to stop and the daydreaming is almost always about past life events that you can remember with such vivid detail its akin to watching a movie? Also besides happening randomly when you are alone, it 95% of the time happens when you shower 😅 (shower thoughts to the extreme 😅)
Jello brain..
I used to have all of these symptoms till i found out it was gluten all along.
You never know!