I Studied Japanese Everyday for 2 Years (update)
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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
- like 6 months late making this but thought it might be useful enough to someone that i probably should. you can definitely improve significantly faster than this if you make no mistakes and study more hours, but overall im proud of the progress i've made and the work i've put in.
also i know i said going to Japan for an internship was a goal for next year but im so late making this that im actually going to japan in 2 weeks so we'll see how much my speaking improves.
Sections:
00:00 - Introduction
01:36 - First 6 Months
05:28 - 6 Months to 1 Year
06:01 - Japan Trip
07:31 - Next Year
08:40 - Finishing Core6k Deck
09:19 - How good am I?
10:13 - Goals going forward
10:57 - Final thoughts
Music I used:
Anxiety - equity slate
Jazz Bossa - Musmus channel
Mugen meditation - Kyo Itachi
War with loneliness - Kurau OST
Memory - Kino's Journey OST
Garden - Old Runescape OST
Moonlight - Kurau OST
Hi, I'm Japanese🇯🇵Thank you for learning Japanese😊
Very grounded video, this is very inspiring from someone learning again. btw ur cute lol
N2 level is such an accomplishment! i've been learning hindi for about 8 months using anki decks and grammar videos on youtube as my main source of learning... as soon as i was able to make basic sentences (memorise maybe 800 words + some grammar knowledge) i started talking to natives on this app called hellotalk. ive found my language ability has improved drassstically since talking directly with natives, as it forces you to analyse their text and practice writing sentences in your target language daily. I noticed that only after i started texting natives i have began to think in hindi sometimes too. I think you should definitely try this with japanese!
(also since my hindi is still pretty bad i use chatgpt and google translate to help when writing some sentences at first, then through repetition i will remember the correct way to write the sentences)
Glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks for the recommendation I'll give it a go. Honestly I haven't been in a rush speak because since I've been on my own my main goal has been to be able to understand everything. I think I'm just at a point now where I might like to start speaking though.
What's your native language?
thanks for the vid!
I have a similar story with goals for the future.
The algorithm is working well today!
I work at an International Language School and was always interested in the language.
The Japanese students who came to America for the program were extremely supportive and helped me engage in conversation.
I definitely recommend finding someone who can help you immerse yourself in the language. Fortunately I also play Apex Legends with them and previous students in the program so I get a lot of immersion from that. Maybe give discord a shot? Even if video games aren't your interest, you can find Japanese users who desire to learn English in exchange.
That is definitely a good way to practice speaking! I also play apex ahahha 😭. I think playing on Japanese servers from Europe would be too hard but I will try to speak to people in discord servers if I can find any, glad you enjoyed the video!
Bro, I literally read "2 weeks" and I was like "nah man, 2 weeks is to short, hope you pass more time studying" then I saw the "2 YEARS"
Hahahaha, 2 years also isn't long enough anyway!
Your experience and method sounds very similar to my own.
Though im nowhere near n2 after two years.
Most of my early study came from duolingo and i only started trying to immerse maybe a month or two ago and Im struggling hard 😂
Awesome work. Keep it up. Very inspiring
Nice informative video! My goal is to be fluent in Spanish and Japanese is next!
Another great video
Just to clarify, you can’t read Kanji if you finish “remembering the kanji” book. You can mostly know the meaning. Reading Kanji comes from immersing. Good video though mate! Keep up the great work!
Yes, this is true. Doing RTK is very useful as a tool to be able to remember kanji more easily in the future. I am now able to read easy novels to a reasonable degree thanks to using RTK as a base and then immersing with Japanese subs. Glad you enjoyed the video! :)
Great video
Just for you too know, TODAY livakivi’s kanji deck(the one he uses, core 2k6k) is outdated, the right deck would be a 2.3k
That's worth knowing, just read a summary of both decks and the core 2.3k does sound to be a much better choice now. Thanks
good to know
I appreciate your honesty about your journey learning japanese compare to other youtuber that became fluent in 2 years or pass jlpt n1 in 1 year just by watching native contents which is totally BS.
Glad you enjoyed the video! I agree reaching n1 in 1 year would be extremely difficult but I actually do think it is possible only consuming native content. The issue is it would require completely sacrificing that 1 year to do nothing besides learning Japanese. That's why I'm trying to study in a sustainable way. :)
How good are your reading skills? Like are you able to read novels, manga etc?
I just recently started reading some manga as I'm in Japan atm so it's pretty cheap and it's definitely still enjoyable to read even when I miss some words. I haven't tried to read a novel in a while but I imagine unless it was aimed at children it would be pretty difficult for me at the moment.
Nice video ! How did you study grammar ?
Thanks! :) I did a few beginner grammar textbooks at the start of Studying but I decided not to mention them because I don't think they were particularly helpful. I think the best way to study grammar is to just look up any specific concepts when you notice it in your immersion, but honestly you could never study grammar actively and you'd absorb it passively from immersion anyway once you'd done enough. Hope that helps!
Should I skip the Kanji step and do Anki decks with audio front faces or some other method instead? I feel like this aligns a lot closer with my goals as I'm not aiming to read or write Japanese but instead make basic conversation in Japanese bars with locals. It also seems like a much more natural way to learn as children learn to speak a language long before they learn to read and write.
I don't see spending 3 months learning to read and write a small subset of just the most common Kanji useful. Hearing your struggles to listen and speak the language seems to reinforce my thinking.
From your position and with hindsight what would you say to me? I've learnt hiragana and katakana and spent the last 2 weeks scattered looking for the best methods that suit my goals.
Interesting question. I'd say that if your goal really is only to be able to have basic conversations then you'd be right to skip learning kanji, but if you ever want to progress past that then you'll have to learn kanji at some point. Because Japanese has so many words that are pronounced the same but have different meanings, learning kanji helps in remembering the different meanings so it makes vocab memorisation much easier later down the line imo. It's true that children aquire language through almost entirely immersion and I'd say that ideally that would be the best method, but think about the hours of immersion a child gets compared to you. They're probably listening to hundreds of hours of Japanese a week and likely you'll be listening to far fewer. So basically, sure skip learning to read and write if you aren't ever planning on improving past basic conversation. Otherwise I think you are going to need to at some point anyway and if learning it early on will speed up how quickly you learn new vocab then it's best to do it now.
Hope that makes sense and obviously it's just my opinion! :)
You can start learning from a core 2.3k, an upgraded version of core2k6k.
There you’ll start learning both.
As someone else who's been learning Japanese for around 3 years - Don't skip kanji.
Right now, you may think that that's your only goal, but I can assure you you will regret not learning any kanji when you arrive in Japan. It helps in every aspect of existing there, because it's so prevalent. If you want to be able to read the menu of the bar you're in - Kanji. If you want to know which city you're entering - kanji. If you want to ever read any sign or piece of text that's NOT designed for children - Kanji. If you want to have meaningful conversations in Japanese, that will take hundreds of hours of study. At that point, you're only holding yourself back if you avoid it. That isn't to say that you should grind and memorise every Kanji, but for example - use kanji on the front of your Vocab cards so that you naturally associate it's look with the pronunciation (in hiragana) and maybe learn just most common ones for writing. This is one of the most common mistakes beginners make in learning Japanese, so please do yourself a favour and don't avoid it. It will help in learning spoken language as well, as there are MANY words (more than you think) with identical pronunciation but different kanji, differentiating the meaning.
Yes, children learn through immersion, but you aren't a child and frankly, that is a bad approach because you 1: know a language that you will rely on, and 2: are not surrounded in ONLY japanese 24/7. The best approach is to take the best of both worlds (natural acquisition and traditional study) learning mostly your main goal (speaking) and supplementing it was a lesser portion of writing study (LEARN KANJI)
Anyway, that's my advice. If you don't want to follow it that's your own choice of course, but if you're serious about reaching any level of fluency in Japanese (yes, even JUST speaking) don't neglect the other part of the language, as it will generally increase your ability in ways you don't realise.
とにかくね、日本語の勉強に頑張れ！
@@rafparker awesome reply, thanks :)
besides english, did you speak any other languages before?
Nope, unfortunately only English!
Maybe i'm doing anki way too much, i'm on the first day of my 4th month and i already have 150h of it
That actually doesn't sound like an unreasonable amount as long as you don't get burnt out. I do think doing much more than an hour a day of anki might be pushing the extreme but doing an hour of anki + a few hours of immersion is ideal I think.
you should get a Japanese pen pal ^0^
good plan that could be fun :)
Where do you learn Japanese
Did you learn Japanese well
Japanese is not so different from any other common language. You can study for 10 hours a day, like they do in the military language schools, and reach a high level in 64 weeks, or 1 hour a day, and reach a proficient level in 5 or 6 years.
What about basic conversational? How long
@@inquisitvem6723 In my opinion, between 500 and 1000 hours. I’m about there now.
Most other common languages take significantly time to learn so it is different. Unless you're Eastern Asian.
I expect to be fluent in two years since I'm doing AJATT. What you're doing will never work.
Good luck bro! I admire the dedication. I agree AJATT is a much faster way to reach a high level of language profiency but I think for the majority of learners it's unrealistic and unsustainable to sacrifice everything else in their lives for the sake of learning a foreign language. Where are you currently at in your Japanese learning journey?
Wowsers, that last sentence was rude. I'm doing AJATT too and lemme tell you it won't take two years. I hope you get humbled.
6:43 The train driver hides his face with a hat. Does he really hate being videotaped that much?
I noticed this whilst editing and felt bad for filming him :'(