This is the first time I have heard he could not even speak aloud the basic gospel message even when it was written out for him - that he couldn't even read it without garbling it. WHILE INSISTING ON giving the evangelistic message. That should have been obvious to everyone who knew him that this pattern was evidence he was severely demonized.
They're all secret occultist. I'm convinced of it. He was yoked up with horrible people, horrible leaders, and most of the charismatic church leaders for the last 40 years were taking money from Reverend Moon in Korea, who claimed to be the true Messiah. It's so bad that you almost couldn't name a famous "charismatic"-friendly Christian talk show host, church leader, and author that didn't take money and praise him on video.. Including Donald Trump. Tim Lahaye, Jerry Fallwell, CBN, TBN, etc. I've seen the videos and heard the recordings. It's far worse than I ever thought possible. These false teachers aren't just undiscerning Christians. They're literal wolves and they know it full well. It finally makes a lot of sense to me why you can't get any of them to condemn one of the others when their exposed for gross sin and seksual immorality. They're all somehow connected to New Age cults, and that's just a nice way of saying "occult".
Yes, it should have been but there is a reason it wasn't! That is not all True! They are making a scapegoat out of him. They didn't hang around him all those years in awe because it was "so obvious"! This is MAJOR SCAPEGOATING to justify themselves, and he can't defend himself!
@@agoldenhaze1747 ...this is not scapegoating. Paul Cain was a child prodigee of William Branham, it now transpires he was his right hand man. Today you can see the historical research done by John Andrew Collins (ex cult member & relative of Branham). Branham had layers of dishonesty and different personas and was even a preacher to the klu klux klan, his serpent seed theology was white supremist ideology. This is their video on NAR: Paul Cain and the Kansas City Prophets ua-cam.com/video/DDX0V5SaOV8/v-deo.htmlsi=FYT1sexNl0Atm-u_ In the UK Clifford Hill refused to do the forward to their book 'Some said it thundered' as he discerned an evil spirit operating among them especially Bob Jones. The Kansas city prophets went round prophesying over churches to shut them down unless they came under their autority as they were the super duper apostles & prophets (under latter rain /NAR theology) with more power than the original 12. Ernie Gruen ended up doing a report to try and stop them, its still available today... half way down this page you can find his report & you can see the dishonesty and carrying on. www.banner.org.uk/summaries/sum_kcp.html Bob Jones prophecy started ihop and you can see his new age credentials in his chapter in Bethels book 'The Physics of heaven' entitled vibrating in harmony with God. Its all been out there for years....
What is so disappointing is as a lay person is this is so obvious. John Wimber fell for him. All I saw over and over was a rambling incoherent flatterer.
There used to be no such thing “hippa” and there also was not a legallywell-defined patient-doctor confidentiality-at least outside psychiatric practices. Def was not an issue to talk about those things. Especially to a concerned friend who is asking about what they would need to do to help them. . . I can tell people about how to care for someone or talk about things generally even in cases when I am not allowed name the diagnosis specifically. . .
The Vineyard church has been in existence much longer and there are many many Vineyards around the country that are good solid churches. IHOP-KC and Forerunner Church separated from Vineyard a long time ago. It's not fair to judge an entire group of churches based on one or a handful of bad ones who are on the fringe.
paul cain had some issues, but his prophetic gift was real, and this is all Biblical - Gifts are without repentance, meaning God doesnt take it back for any reason. :)
This is the first time I have heard he could not even speak aloud the basic gospel message even when it was written out for him - that he couldn't even read it without garbling it. WHILE INSISTING ON giving the evangelistic message.
That should have been obvious to everyone who knew him that this pattern was evidence he was severely demonized.
They're all secret occultist. I'm convinced of it. He was yoked up with horrible people, horrible leaders, and most of the charismatic church leaders for the last 40 years were taking money from Reverend Moon in Korea, who claimed to be the true Messiah.
It's so bad that you almost couldn't name a famous "charismatic"-friendly Christian talk show host, church leader, and author that didn't take money and praise him on video.. Including Donald Trump. Tim Lahaye, Jerry Fallwell, CBN, TBN, etc.
I've seen the videos and heard the recordings. It's far worse than I ever thought possible. These false teachers aren't just undiscerning Christians.
They're literal wolves and they know it full well. It finally makes a lot of sense to me why you can't get any of them to condemn one of the others when their exposed for gross sin and seksual immorality. They're all somehow connected to New Age cults, and that's just a nice way of saying "occult".
Cheap entertainment for low level meatballs. Easy to see how the church has fallen for swamp daddy trump 👎
Yes, it should have been but there is a reason it wasn't! That is not all True! They are making a scapegoat out of him. They didn't hang around him all those years in awe because it was "so obvious"! This is MAJOR SCAPEGOATING to justify themselves, and he can't defend himself!
@@agoldenhaze1747 he was a sleazy money maker - too bad Christian’s love cheap entertainment - it all was about the money / sex / power
@@agoldenhaze1747 ...this is not scapegoating. Paul Cain was a child prodigee of William Branham, it now transpires he was his right hand man.
Today you can see the historical research done by John Andrew Collins (ex cult member & relative of Branham). Branham had layers of dishonesty and different personas and was even a preacher to the klu klux klan, his serpent seed theology was white supremist ideology.
This is their video on NAR: Paul Cain and the Kansas City Prophets
ua-cam.com/video/DDX0V5SaOV8/v-deo.htmlsi=FYT1sexNl0Atm-u_
In the UK Clifford Hill refused to do the forward to their book 'Some said it thundered' as he discerned an evil spirit operating among them especially Bob Jones.
The Kansas city prophets went round prophesying over churches to shut them down unless they came under their autority as they were the super duper apostles & prophets (under latter rain /NAR theology) with more power than the original 12.
Ernie Gruen ended up doing a report to try and stop them, its still available today... half way down this page you can find his report & you can see the dishonesty and carrying on.
www.banner.org.uk/summaries/sum_kcp.html
Bob Jones prophecy started ihop and you can see his new age credentials in his chapter in Bethels book 'The Physics of heaven' entitled vibrating in harmony with God.
Its all been out there for years....
Abuse, dishonesty and drunkenness. Bickle’s mentor
Other than that he seems like a good guy. 🙄
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 he liked to lay his 'Mantle' on boys, the younger the better
A mess in a dress. The church swamp needs draining.
Swamp daddy trump their messiah now - the arrogance/the stupidity 👎
Read the novel “Where Do We Go Now, LORD? - Burke.” Advanced. Good.
I KNOW WHO HAS THEM AND I ASKED HIM TO RELEASE THEM - PEOPLE NEED TO PRAY HE DOES HE IS A PERSON WHO WILL LISTEN TO THE HOLY SPIRIT
Sociopathic manipulation
Deviants!
What is so disappointing is as a lay person is this is so obvious. John Wimber fell for him. All I saw over and over was a rambling incoherent flatterer.
Sources?
A cardiologist would just outright talk about a patient’s medical history?? This sounds like a lie.
The source is a chapter of a book written by Jack Deere, who knew Paul since the 1980's, and was one of his best friends.
There used to be no such thing “hippa” and there also was not a legallywell-defined patient-doctor confidentiality-at least outside psychiatric practices.
Def was not an issue to talk about those things. Especially to a concerned friend who is asking about what they would need to do to help them. . . I can tell people about how to care for someone or talk about things generally even in cases when I am not allowed name the diagnosis specifically. . .
I recall when MT.18 was walked out in 2004.
He was nice to me.
Vineyard seems to be the root of abuse.
The Vineyard church has been in existence much longer and there are many many Vineyards around the country that are good solid churches. IHOP-KC and Forerunner Church separated from Vineyard a long time ago. It's not fair to judge an entire group of churches based on one or a handful of bad ones who are on the fringe.
@@photosynthesislifeIMO from personal experience
Sorry to hear that
I know of many people over years who were very blessed by Vineyard. I was one.
@goldenhazel747 me too
Don't give a shit.
paul cain had some issues, but his prophetic gift was real, and this is all Biblical - Gifts are without repentance, meaning God doesnt take it back for any reason. :)
#thegoddelusion