5 Awesome things that ND filters do for FPV (Demo)
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- ND filters can do all sorts of things for us FPV drone flyers. They can add smooth, cinematic motion blur, get rid of jello, reduce the effect of props in view, protect your lens and allow you to lock a shutter speed. In this video I strapped 2 GoPros to a quad, one with an ND filter and one without to demonstrate via comparison exactly what ND filters do, and how we can use ND filters to make our fpv videos better.
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#fpv #ndfilter #cinematic
i was like, this guy is about to confuse even more people on nd filters, but no! You actually made a pretty accurate representation on how they work.
Hey thanks so much, I really appreciate it. Of course there is way more to it, and I took a few liberties with the facts just to keep it simple and get the point across without making a mind-numbing 30 min video
SandFPV I completely agree. Almost passed on watching, by the end I was like, no way! Killer vid.
@@Thisguyandhiscamera Thanks so much!
A friend of mine Chris Miller told me about Camera Butter so I went to the site and learned that you make ND filters for DJI FPV cameras. I watched the videos which explained very well how they work. I really like Paul's willingness to trach how they work and I'm convinced. Placing an order today for verity pack. RDQ says coming soon but can't wait so ordering direct.Thanks Paul.
Thank you so much :) How did things work out for you?
Your examples within this video: off-the-chain! This answered several questions I’ve had, thank you so much! Fantastic video.
Thanks so much for the feedback, I'm really glad it was useful to you
Nice work Buddy! Makes sense. I'll hit you up for some filters.
Thank you very much for this video. I just got my DJI FPV and now I understand what ND filters are used for and will definitely use them as well :-)
very very great video, explained everything super understandable and not so complicated like other guys do.
Nice Job keep up
The only explanation you need to know about ND filters!
Thank you :)
Very well explained!
Thank you!
Very good explanation. Thanks
This is an awesome comparison!!
Hey thanks so much - glad you sound it useful!
Well done. The examples were super helpful.
thanks !
Excellent video my friend. Most comprehensive and helpful. One of your best. I have some of your Camera Butter ND filters. Love them. One problem though...I thought they would make me fly faster and better...Not so much!!!... :-)
Thanks! I think you forgot to ask for the flight upgrade package on them - they are guaranteed to make your flying like Le Drib's
@@MactacFPV hahahahahaa, right!!!
Awesome clarifications... with examples..
Thank you so much!
Very clear and useful, good overall content. Thannks
Thank you so much, I’m glad you found it useful
VERY informative, this made more sense than any typical explanation i've seen Thanks!
Thanks a lot!
I bought the Camera Butter 4, 8, 16 combo pack for my Session. I've never used ND filters before but it got rid of jello in my 6 and 7 inch kwads! I'm still trying to figure out which one to use but I like it. Shipping from Canada is bs for some reason though.
That's great. Yes they work well for jello. If you only want to get rid of jello, then start with the lowest one, and if it doesn't get rid of it, go up to the next one, and repeat.
Wow what a difference!!
This is what I needed! Thanks man, gonna order multipack right now, cheers!
Awesome, let me know if you have any questions!
Mactac I’m little bit worried about the “glue” that holds filter in place. I’m gonna use it on my motorcycle helmet. Do you think it can withstand strong winds etc?
@@DavidKupka2 If the surface you're putting it on is completely clean & dry, then it should hold. I have someone who uses one on a gopro on an airplane (!)
Mactac Oh wow, great! Thnaks, can’t wait to try them!
I miss my ND8 butterglass. I lost it tower diving.. I heard it hit but I never found it. Anyhow.. quality video on what ND is. Coming from photography/cinematography listening to most people explain how neutral density works is very cringe-worthy. Thank you for taking the time to understand and explain it the right way, and to show it too!
Thank Andy !
Great info, thanks!
Great informative video ! Thank you
Glad you found it useful :)
Thank you for this amazing video.
You are very welcome!
Amazing video!
Thanks!!
So cool how you got that perfect split screen
Thanks ! Oh - I used 2 gopros side by side & just cut the videos each in half.
Very informative thank you for your efforts :-)
You are very welcome - I’m happy that you found it useful!
Thank you for the video, awesome clear description of the topic!
You are very welcome!
Great Video! This is one I was looking for.
Thanks alot! i will use this for paintball
That sounds really interesting - is love to see some video of it when you do !
THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!!!
And thank you for watching !
Great video! Super informative, I just received my nd filters from you and will be testing them out tonight.
Question - do you turn image stabilization ON or leave it off?
Good watch and informative. Thank you
Thanks !
Excellent video! Very useful! nD filter for gopro session works on runcam 5 orange? Thanks!
Would love to know this as well too!
Sorry, they don't fit :(
@@MactacFPV aw man, could you please link us to one that does fit? Thanks! :-)
@@lucasceleste4743 I don't know of any that fit, but I do have the black diamond series - they are universal and fit any mount that is made to use a TBS jello guard filter. If you can find one for the runcam, you will be able to use these: camerabutter.com/products/black-diamond-universal-nd-filter-tbs-jello-guard
@@MactacFPV thanks man! I'll take a look
Very nice comparison. But the question is, do they hold? I don’t want to lose them by doing a flip or roll.... Keep it up🤗
They definitely won’t fall off when flying , then stick on very well
Excellent explanation! Can you make custom ND filters? I need a ND16 for the CADDX Loris micro.
Sorry, I cannot because it would cost way too much to make just one or two to make it viable.
Always great expertise on your channel! I think I need to try this. My 7 incher just causes enough jello to make the HD video useless. But for my purposes I just use a Firefly2 cam. So I ordered some of the Irix brand ND gels as I heard they fit on this camera decently.
Thanks! If you get a chance, try some glass ones too (if you can find some that fit the cam). They usually have much less glare, and have less color cast.
Did you purposely make put your quad out of time for the jello comparison? Awesome
Haha yes I did - I clipped a prop :) Thanks!
very informative, thanx
You are very welcome!
Great Video you didn't explain the various levels of ND filters and why. Its 2021 and the GoPro sessions are gone. Runcam 5 orange and Caddx Orca are the box cameras available these days. With the latter supposedly having a built in ND Filter
Thanks! The various strengths of ND filter is a whole other video (still meaning to do it), but I have some tips here: camerabutter.com/pages/nd-filter-tips . The GoPro sessions are still very much being used (I sell a ton of Session filters still) even though they have been discontinued for some time. Neither the Runcam nor the Caddx have a built-in ND filters. That all being said, I don't only make filters for the Session - also the Hero 5,6,7,8 and 9. Plus I make Universal filters that fit in any camera mount with a 33x36 filter slot (the Black Diamond series).
Brilliant video! So glad my local-ish shop here in the UK has these in stock! Going to get an ND8 and 16 I think! Look totally worth it! Do you ever tend to get them just dropping off or is the adhesive strong enough that this shouldn't ever really happen?
If they are put on properly, they don't fall off
Super helpful, so what would be your rec for settings on the session (shutter speed, exposure etc.) and #ND filter for the following situation... sunny day, in and out of darker "forested" and brighter "sunlight" area's....?? I use this cam on a chest mount for MTB video, always looking for tips and tricks to get better quality...
If I'm doing a sunny day an d stay in the sun, I use ND16, lock ISO to 100, and set the shutter so it looks properly exposed on the preview on your phone. If you are goin in & out of darker areas, use ND8 (or even 4 or no ND if it's really dark) and set shutter to auto. ISO max mode to 400 or 800. Unfortunately by setting auto shutter, your amount of motion blur will keep changing (it's dependent on the shutter speed), but the session doesn't have a lot of dynamic range, so if it gets too dark, you won't be able to boost it later without totally destroying the image. LMK if you have any questions, as we can go as deep as you want :)
Great information, thanks for this. Just ordered one of your filters to try out.
You are welcome, and thanks for ordering a filter - looking forward to your feedback !
Really good stuff! I just tested my ND32 & 64 filters today. I look forward to your upcoming settings video because I'm not sure what to set the shutter speed to. I've heard 1/double your frame rate, but then it seems like I've also heard different & maybe that's for mad freestyler pro' style. I'm long range guy trying to incorporate some basic freestyle in my mountain surfing. Plus most of my major objectives are for freshly snow covered mountains with sun. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Expose for the snow - it's the hardest thing to get right. This might mean that everything else is just a little bit dark, but you can always crank up the exposure in post. 1/double the frame rate is good for the right amount of motion blur if that's what you're going for. Possibly different settings if you are trying to get rid of jello or props, you might need less ND. Really, just experiment to see what effect you like most. Just be careful if you are using hypersmooth on a Hero 7... if you have lots of vibration, hypersmooth does some weird stuff, and that gets amplified with an ND filter
@@MactacFPV Okay, interesting. Thanks.
Just got my session I know I'm a few years late to the party. It's really hard to find the nd filters now.
Just got mine, looking for the settings video?
What's the support you used? A one that fits a nd filter or a normal gopro session's one? Thank
Question, you guy running with with GoPro stabilizer on or off when u put Nd filter ???
For the cinewhoop and long distance flight I use hypersmooth on the hero 8, but on the session for acro stuff I don’t use stabilization
@@MactacFPV Andddd if you disable stabilisation you get the option of slapping it through something like ReelSteadyGo at a later date if you feel the need! Although tbh, the footage you were showing then looked smooth as anything. Top video!
I need to get ND16.. Summer hash light kills the HD footage :(
Yes it definitely makes the shutter speed so fast it does make it lose a lot of smoothness. If you do want some filters, I would suggest getting them soon as demand is huge right now and I regularly run out of stock :(
Have you done the gopro settings video?
I have just ordered a bunch of camera butter ND's for both the session5 and hero 7 black. And I can't seem to find a really god settings guide, please help..
gopro settings? :D
Unfortuantely, I can't remember the exact settings. Obviously the ND filter ones had a much slower shutter, but I didn't write them down, sorry!
how do the gopro session filters attach?
They stick on very low profile with a removable adhesive just around the edges to keep the optics really clean
Can the hero 6 nd filter work on session 5 since it's just stick on?
It can however the hero 6 lens is t as tall as the session, so you would have to be really careful to center it. You could just buy a session stick on filter though :)
will the lower shutter speed from the nd filter mess up reelsteady's stabilisation?
I know it currently messes with handheld use of gopro 8 and 9 with their in camera hyper smooth 2 and 3...
would be a shame if i couldn't use nd filters for that lovely motion blur and have a stable shot.
H8 and H9 are fine with hypersmooth and ND filters. It was the early firmware on the H7 that had the problem, but it's been updated. If you are using Reelsteady Go, it's not a problem at all (it uses the gyro to stabilize). I use ND filters on 95% of my videos. Here's a H8 with an ND16 and hypersmooth: ua-cam.com/video/Kq5JDm9iIVU/v-deo.html
@@MactacFPV Thank you for the response and for calming my worry.
WOW your video is amazing! This is exactly one of the biggest things I want to do In FPV and what brought me here in the first place. So STUNNING.
How did you have video for that range? Also how did you get such long flight times while carrying a gopro?
Amazing footage !! :)
I saw in reviews of gp 8 and of 9 that this problem exists.
perhaps they firmware fixed it, or perhaps it's not a problem when flying fpv... as all the demonstrations of this were with nd filters and low shutterspeeds while people were walking or running with lots of bouncing around.
here's a timestamp of a hero 9 review demoing it ua-cam.com/video/BFYt6PtyDyw/v-deo.html
Tho if reelsteady go is better anyway and does not have problems with it that's great. I heard hypersmooth 3.0 might crop less ?
What settings did you shoot on the hero5 sessions? 2.7k30? When you add the filters do you rise de ISO?
Yes, it was 2k7 30fps. Probably around 1/60 shutter speed depending on the light. No, you don't raise ISO, as that degrades the image, and defeats the purpose of the ND filter, which is to be able to use a slower shutter speed.
Hey. What would be your preference for filming on snow on a bright day. An 8 or a 16?
I would go 16 or even 32 if it’s super bright
Nothing available for my runcam 3s as far as I know...oh well, Im not Francis Ford, nor am I making my Oscar submission. Thanks for the info, interesting.
The ones I make for the session might actually fit on the Runcam 3s, but I don't have one to check. The filters are 29mm x 29mm - what's the size of the runcam glass part?
@@MactacFPV Hmm, Ill measure later today, do you have a website I can order from if Im so inclined ?
www.camerabutter.com - talk to me first though so we can make sure it will work. You can email me through the website or on messenger.
That was extremely well explained, thank you for that! 👍🏻🙏🏻
You're very welcome!