Another SAAB community jewel. Thanks for the blog. English is a funny olde language at times, and you have a very advanced vocab. Suite, is a sweet word and is that simple to pronounce. "Seeyoot" seems the apparent pronunciation but is actually pronounced as "sweet". This extremely helpful lesson was brought from Napier, New zealand, to Sweden, via the interweb!
Darn, did I pronounce "suite" wrong? I need to un-learn :) You should have seen the pronunciation of the outtakes! Thanks for the much-needed language help ;)
Utmärkt genomgång, har funderat den senaste veckan att flasha min SAAB 9-5 2.3t 2005 till att kunna köras på e85 och nu vet jag ungefär vad det skulle kosta mig samt vad som kan gå sönder! Kattens pyjamas! Är inte särskilt intresserad av att mappa men skulle vilja Open SID pga skoj datta och E85 har bra lönsamhet i dagsläget.
Yep, T8 is very different from T7 and I know nothing of how to modify the ng9-3 cars. Did your tune work well for you? I heard you removed the SAI shenanigans from your -03.
Great video, This got me started to start modifying my -07 2,0t biopower. Question, when I open my stock .bin in T7suite I have 4525 undocumented symbols. I have searched the Trionictuning-forum but not found anything applicable/working for my SW. SW name is EU03Y01C.46T. I have not been successful in importing "IMPORT XML descriptor" Do you have a dummy-how-to?
Do you happen to know how one could program a modification to the door chime sound? You know, that noise the car makes to indicate the key is in the ignition or seat belts need to be fastened?
I always follow your vids, and i want to thank you for the time you put to helps us poeple who really wants to learn the right way. And please it would be appreciated if you can make a vid of how to use t7 suite in details. many thanks from Canada
Mycket bra video, och tack för informationen. Gjorde installationen i obd uttaget från esp. Jag flashade med openport vilket går väldigt snabbt 1 min 4sek mycket nöjd 😁 Undrar bara för har en extra ecu, går det att flasha begagnad ecu och sen starta bilen bara rakt av eller hur kodar jag in immobilizern? 😅
Hello there. I'am new in this car-tuning things. But i find it very interesting. Tell me please, would it be true to claim, that you have shown the average approach of re-setting ECU for every car, not only Saab? And one more. Can you please share any tutorial articles or may be some tuning-aimed channels to learn more about setting and adjusting (tuning) ECU's?
Yeah, I bought a generic cable and then switched some pins around. There is no standard type of cable so I had to modify it to fit the combi adapter pinout.
Thanks for the vid. Question: if you are having issues that seem to indicate a failing ECU ("stuttering"); is it possible that flashing the ECU will correct the issues because the h/w is not defective, it just needs to have the s/w reloaded via the flash procedure demonstrated here.? Great work here. Would love to get your reply.
Like when your Windows OS is screwed up so you reinstall Windows on your Hard Drive. That's kind of what I meant. Before I buy an ECU replacement, I thought I'd ask. Thanks for the reply. I really enjoy your work here on UA-cam and on your Twitter feed. Thanks.
Nah, too complicated, I'll stick with my SAAB 9-5 Estate the way it is. It has all the power I need, besides why would an old man like me need more power? So I can terrorize same youngsters ? LOL. I have sub toTrionic seven and I love every single one of your videos. ( TACK SA MYCKET )
Thanx Jonathan . Please I have 9-3 2009 aero biopower .It has diag port and ESP. What kind of ECU in it ? Is it T7 or T8 ? And how to get the cable between the diagnostic port and combi adpter ? Maybe stupid questions !!! Thanx for fine videos.
It is T8 and this is the link to the OBD2 to USB cable. Diagnostic port to laptop.. www.lightinthebox.com/sv/12v-v1-5-obd2-elm327-granssnitt-usb-can-bus-scanner-diagnostik_p4427115.html?category_id=2243&prm=1.2.1.1 U need also T8-suite and flasher. I will try this and tell U if my SAAB survive..haha..Thanx again..
Jonathan, I been watching your channel for the past year and a half and have learned much; thank you. Quick question, I have a 1999 9-3 with a broken piston and other problems. I will be putting in a new engine with some upgrades. Is it possible, or advisable, to change from the present Trionic 5 to Trionic 7?
I wonder if the Saab I drive has been tuned before by previous owners or something, in some way. It got a "Remus" exhaust, and 2 "Hirsch" emblems on the sides. I can't find any paper or information about this however, I tried the combination on the steering wheel so see if it had SID, but it didn't. Is there any way to find out if the car got tuning by Hirsch? I tried emailing them without any response.
Good question. Saabs are so easily tuned that a previous owner might have done something to it without writing it down. Try to pull the ECU and have a look at it (see my video on that), maybe there's a sticker on it? Otherwise, the only way to be sure is to actually download the bin to your computer.
I don't have the equipment to perform a such "operation" myself sadly, but maybe the car mechanic can check at it? Or even tune it if it's not done already ;)
No, unless they are Saab specialists that's nothing they can do, usually. And if they follow official procedures they still only can flash "standard" software. But pulling the ECU is something you can do yourself.
When there was possibility to enable opensid, there is options like gast throttle response, and extra fast response are they possible to enable as easy as opensid?
Hello everyone, am thinking of ecu tuning my 2007 9-3 2.8 v6 250hp engine. Convertible Everything is stock no hardware tuning/modification for now. Any advice? Thanks??
Omöjligt att få till en P-bus i min og9-3 Aero 2001 ? Jag har dock en usbbdm ja köpte av JohnC, men skulle vara bra att kunna flasha direkt via obd2 kontakten.
Inte omöjligt, men troligtvis meckigt. Kanske möjligt att splica in sig på kontakten till styrdonet, men risken är om du kopplar fel eftersom bilen då inte kommer starta. WIS har mer info om bra ställen att koppla in sig på.
Hi, my 93 was remapped before i purchased it, is it a good idea to copy the current cpu bin to my laptop incase of a unit failure and then if ever needed buy a t7 cpu and flash to that ? Thanks
Hi, I have a 2007 9-3 and my cars blue tooth connection isn't working. Any ideas on how I can get it to function? Nothing happens when I press the buttons on the steering wheel, no beeps, no changes to the SID. Could this be a fuse, or something else? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Trionic Seven. It is probably the same system as you would find on the 9-5 of the same year, 2007. They have the same steering wheel controls, and the same stereo systems, so I assume the same bluetooth system also.
hey how are you doing im having truble with me saab i was wodering if you might know what is wrong with it . . yesterday when i was driving home last night on the highway my car turned of will driving i felt it jump a little and when i tryed to axelerate it it keep juping and i pulled over and i turned it offand it didnt want to start till like 5 mins latter
Jag har TCS i min 9-5 1999 V6 3.0 B308E Vilken ECU behöver jag för att uppdatera detta, finns det möjligt att använda ELM327 Bluetooth för diagnostik? Har nordicuhr dessa prylar?
Trionic Seven min V6t lever igen efter 3,5år stillestånd. Det var ingen som ville renovera den. Men godkänd och trevlig. Vad jag saknade ljudet av den.
My car is a -01 9-3 Aero. I'm not sure yet but probably sooner or later if i got the hang of it i'm will try flashing the ecu myself. But i was thinking maybe it is a good idea not to use the cars original ecu when experimenting so if something goes wrong i could just put the original back? If so could i just go to the scrapyard and get any 9-5 T7 ecu and use that? It is much harder to find T7 9-3's in general and if i do someone else already has taken the ecu.
Yes, get another T7 ECU and remove the stock ECU from the car. That way, you can flash the new ECU to your heart's content and if anything goes bad, put the stock ECU in :)
hey, im from uk and my saab 93 2.2 has fried the ecu.. but i dont know where it is!! ive checked under front engine cover, also driver side interiour arch, looked under scuttle cover !! any one know where it may be? its a 2004 vector sport 2.2 tid
Hej Fy F*n vad du är duktig på att lära ut. Jag har haft mycket nytta av dina kunskaper. Jag kollade en video som inte är så bra: ua-cam.com/video/vw1o9x7fLoU/v-deo.html Kan du ev. göra en mer detaljerad och bättre motsvarighet är du snäll? Tack på förhand.
Haha, tack så mycket! :) Den videon visar egentligen inget om hur själva trimmningen går till, för det behöver du antingen en .bin-fil eller en mappning gjord av ett proffs. Annars har du all info du behöver i filmen jag gjort (plus de videos jag länkar)
Another SAAB community jewel.
Thanks for the blog.
English is a funny olde language at times, and you have a very advanced vocab.
Suite, is a sweet word and is that simple to pronounce.
"Seeyoot" seems the apparent pronunciation but is actually pronounced as "sweet".
This extremely helpful lesson was brought from Napier, New zealand, to Sweden, via the interweb!
Darn, did I pronounce "suite" wrong? I need to un-learn :)
You should have seen the pronunciation of the outtakes!
Thanks for the much-needed language help ;)
haha, yes, GREAT vid and as stated, "suite" is pronounced "sweet"! "Chassis" is "chasee"
chqassis is "shazzee"....don't chase it...ask Sharon...or Shazza as we call her.
Utmärkt genomgång, har funderat den senaste veckan att flasha min SAAB 9-5 2.3t 2005 till att kunna köras på e85 och nu vet jag ungefär vad det skulle kosta mig samt vad som kan gå sönder! Kattens pyjamas! Är inte särskilt intresserad av att mappa men skulle vilja Open SID pga skoj datta och E85 har bra lönsamhet i dagsläget.
Du låter som mig!
I've got a T8 in my 9-3 I believe, but this is very interesting!
When I got my car tuned, I just saw him doing shit on a laptop, didn't see all of these details, interesting
Yep, T8 is very different from T7 and I know nothing of how to modify the ng9-3 cars. Did your tune work well for you? I heard you removed the SAI shenanigans from your -03.
Great video, This got me started to start modifying my -07 2,0t biopower.
Question, when I open my stock .bin in T7suite I have 4525 undocumented symbols.
I have searched the Trionictuning-forum but not found anything applicable/working for my SW.
SW name is EU03Y01C.46T. I have not been successful in importing "IMPORT XML descriptor"
Do you have a dummy-how-to?
Thanks from the land down under 👌
Do you happen to know how one could program a modification to the door chime sound? You know, that noise the car makes to indicate the key is in the ignition or seat belts need to be fastened?
What does it means fast throttle response? 12:24?
Hi, any idea how to set actuall consumption in the sid? cheers
Great video, very clarifying!!!!
Thanks!
If your computer has the connector for the cable from your obd port, do you still need the combi-adaptor?
That's what I want to know. If I splice in a D-Sub into the car like 5:23, will I still need the Combi adapter?
I always follow your vids, and i want to thank you for the time you put to helps us poeple who really wants to learn the right way. And please it would be appreciated if you can make a vid of how to use t7 suite in details. many thanks from Canada
Glad you like the videos :) A t7suite video is on the todo list!
Mycket bra video, och tack för informationen. Gjorde installationen i obd uttaget från esp. Jag flashade med openport vilket går väldigt snabbt 1 min 4sek mycket nöjd 😁
Undrar bara för har en extra ecu, går det att flasha begagnad ecu och sen starta bilen bara rakt av eller hur kodar jag in immobilizern? 😅
Hello there.
I'am new in this car-tuning things. But i find it very interesting.
Tell me please, would it be true to claim, that you have shown the average approach of re-setting ECU for every car, not only Saab?
And one more.
Can you please share any tutorial articles or may be some tuning-aimed channels to learn more about setting and adjusting (tuning) ECU's?
This dude is one with the car
Great video! Love my 06 9-5 stage 3. Just wish I had the manual like you!
Manuals are great!
Who tune ur car
Is it always necessary to disconnect the ECU after flashing for it to reboot/load the new software? Mine is a T8 ECU, from a 93. Thank you
Hei. Super kanal med mange gode tips. Jeg lurer på om BSR Trionic 7 er Tüv- godkjent?
Have you ever changed a evaporate canister on a 1999 95 looking for a video thanks
Great video, but next time you do something involving a pc you should record the screen on it.
Definitely, that was an oversight on my part. I thought the camera would pick up the screen but I was wrong. Thanks for the feedback :)
are those adapters still availble or is there other options now ?
If my har have lpg? Is car ecu maps still controling engine or its lpg ecu interferes? Plese tell more
Jonathan, what process did you go through to “rewire” the obd/db9 cable? You mention you had to buy the cable, then modify it.
Yeah, I bought a generic cable and then switched some pins around. There is no standard type of cable so I had to modify it to fit the combi adapter pinout.
another question where did u buy the pins that you soldier on ?
Thanks for the vid. Question: if you are having issues that seem to indicate a failing ECU ("stuttering"); is it possible that flashing the ECU will correct the issues because the h/w is not defective, it just needs to have the s/w reloaded via the flash procedure demonstrated here.? Great work here. Would love to get your reply.
Hm...no idea! Never heard of that issue.
Like when your Windows OS is screwed up so you reinstall Windows on your Hard Drive. That's kind of what I meant. Before I buy an ECU replacement, I thought I'd ask. Thanks for the reply. I really enjoy your work here on UA-cam and on your Twitter feed. Thanks.
Nah, too complicated, I'll stick with my SAAB 9-5 Estate the way it is. It has all the power I need, besides why would an old man like me need more power? So I can terrorize same youngsters ? LOL.
I have sub toTrionic seven and I love every single one of your videos. ( TACK SA MYCKET )
In the words of Clarkson: POWAA!
Glad you like the video, more to come ;)
Another great video Jonathan.....
;-)
Thanks! ;)
Great video as always keep it up!
Hey thanks! :)
hello there, very very nicely done video. My ECU is 5384110 of 2003 Saab 95 arc V6 turbo. Can this be flashed this way..? Thanks a million.
Thanx Jonathan . Please I have 9-3 2009 aero biopower .It has diag port and ESP. What kind of ECU in it ? Is it T7 or T8 ? And how to get the cable between the diagnostic port and combi adpter ? Maybe stupid questions !!! Thanx for fine videos.
Hey, sorry I don't know much about the ng9-3. It's a T8 car, and that is very different from T7. I'd check trionictuning.com :)
It is T8 and this is the link to the OBD2 to USB cable. Diagnostic port to laptop..
www.lightinthebox.com/sv/12v-v1-5-obd2-elm327-granssnitt-usb-can-bus-scanner-diagnostik_p4427115.html?category_id=2243&prm=1.2.1.1
U need also T8-suite and flasher. I will try this and tell U if my SAAB survive..haha..Thanx again..
No, that's just an ELM327. You need something like the combi adapter.
Trionic Seven ok .will fix it ..Trevlig helg på dig och familjen kompis.😂
Jonathan, I been watching your channel for the past year and a half and have learned much; thank you. Quick question, I have a 1999 9-3 with a broken piston and other problems. I will be putting in a new engine with some upgrades. Is it possible, or advisable, to change from the present Trionic 5 to Trionic 7?
You can't change the control system, it's 99% impossible.
Trionic Seven
I wonder if the Saab I drive has been tuned before by previous owners or something, in some way. It got a "Remus" exhaust, and 2 "Hirsch" emblems on the sides. I can't find any paper or information about this however, I tried the combination on the steering wheel so see if it had SID, but it didn't.
Is there any way to find out if the car got tuning by Hirsch? I tried emailing them without any response.
Good question. Saabs are so easily tuned that a previous owner might have done something to it without writing it down. Try to pull the ECU and have a look at it (see my video on that), maybe there's a sticker on it? Otherwise, the only way to be sure is to actually download the bin to your computer.
I don't have the equipment to perform a such "operation" myself sadly, but maybe the car mechanic can check at it? Or even tune it if it's not done already ;)
No, unless they are Saab specialists that's nothing they can do, usually. And if they follow official procedures they still only can flash "standard" software. But pulling the ECU is something you can do yourself.
Not even on saab service centers listed on this website? www.saabparts.com/sv-se/sweden/hitta-verkstad/
I'm not actually sure. Here's what I recommend: Check out trionictuning.com, and ask the question there. I'm sure you'll get better help there! :)
When there was possibility to enable opensid, there is options like gast throttle response, and extra fast response are they possible to enable as easy as opensid?
The car won't go faster, it just changes the calibration of the throttle pedal :)
Yeah thats true but in some moments these options will be better for lauching if we talk about racing etc.
Brilliant - Thanks alot ! Fred
Glad you liked it!
Hey can i use my tactrix openport 2.0 to read write trionic7?
Isnt griffin like a special version of Saab?
Yes it’s a like the most luxury trim level you can get they made the griffin model when they lunch there new jet
Hello everyone, am thinking of ecu tuning my 2007 9-3 2.8 v6 250hp engine. Convertible
Everything is stock no hardware tuning/modification for now.
Any advice? Thanks??
Do you have a combi adapter for sale?
Hi, how is that possible, that Maptun instruction manual says we are able to flash tune to t7 ECU via OBD? How do they do that?
They use the K-line, a completely different method
Hello,
I'm having an issue to connect with my trionic 7 ecu with the trioniccanflasher.
Any causes why??
Great video
Omöjligt att få till en P-bus i min og9-3 Aero 2001 ? Jag har dock en usbbdm ja köpte av JohnC, men skulle vara bra att kunna flasha direkt via obd2 kontakten.
Inte omöjligt, men troligtvis meckigt. Kanske möjligt att splica in sig på kontakten till styrdonet, men risken är om du kopplar fel eftersom bilen då inte kommer starta. WIS har mer info om bra ställen att koppla in sig på.
Jag får kika på detta. Vore ju gött!
Hi, my 93 was remapped before i purchased it, is it a good idea to copy the current cpu bin to my laptop incase of a unit failure and then if ever needed buy a t7 cpu and flash to that ? Thanks
That's a great idea! Always good to have backups
Trionic Seven thanks
Ever used any components from Hirsch Performance?
Nope. They seem like overpriced plastic parts to me.
Hello, please help when downloading the file after copying it to me (undocumented) How can I get rid of it please
Hi , I have a faulty T8 ECU for my 2008 saab 93 2.0t , do you know where can I get a used T8 ECU? Or a new one?
Sorry, never touched T8
Hi, I have a 2007 9-3 and my cars blue tooth connection isn't working. Any ideas on how I can get it to function? Nothing happens when I press the buttons on the steering wheel, no beeps, no changes to the SID. Could this be a fuse, or something else?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Sorry, I don't know anything about the 9-3.
Trionic Seven. It is probably the same system as you would find on the 9-5 of the same year, 2007. They have the same steering wheel controls, and the same stereo systems, so I assume the same bluetooth system also.
Nope, the 9-5 does not have bluetooth
hey how are you doing im having truble with me saab i was wodering if you might know what is wrong with it
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yesterday when i was driving home last night on the highway my car turned of will driving i felt it jump a little and when i tryed to axelerate it it keep juping and i pulled over and i turned it offand it didnt want to start till like 5 mins latter
Check your crankshaft position sensor
Jag har TCS i min 9-5 1999 V6 3.0 B308E
Vilken ECU behöver jag för att uppdatera detta, finns det möjligt att använda ELM327 Bluetooth för diagnostik?
Har nordicuhr dessa prylar?
Tror det är samma T7-box. Men V6 är en ovanlig motor, jag hade ringt Nordic och kollat
Trionic Seven min V6t lever igen efter 3,5år stillestånd. Det var ingen som ville renovera den. Men godkänd och trevlig. Vad jag saknade ljudet av den.
what type of phone mount is that? can you post the link
thanks
Check out a very old vid of mine: ua-cam.com/video/MmKCo4pxXNQ/v-deo.html
Is there any chance to tune up my 2004 95 2.3LPT ?! I find nothing in the web...
Contact a tuner, they can send an ECU straight to you.
Hi, any mods for 2.3 ng 900 96 cabbie please ?
That's a T5 car, don't know much about those
Can you leave the ignition on throughout
No, it must be off.
My car is a -01 9-3 Aero. I'm not sure yet but probably sooner or later if i got the hang of it i'm will try flashing the ecu myself. But i was thinking maybe it is a good idea not to use the cars original ecu when experimenting so if something goes wrong i could just put the original back? If so could i just go to the scrapyard and get any 9-5 T7 ecu and use that? It is much harder to find T7 9-3's in general and if i do someone else already has taken the ecu.
Yes, get another T7 ECU and remove the stock ECU from the car. That way, you can flash the new ECU to your heart's content and if anything goes bad, put the stock ECU in :)
hey, im from uk and my saab 93 2.2 has fried the ecu.. but i dont know where it is!! ive checked under front engine cover, also driver side interiour arch, looked under scuttle cover !! any one know where it may be? its a 2004 vector sport 2.2 tid
This video does not apply to the diesels, sorry! They have a completely different system.
where can I buy engine ECU?
Used. They last basically forever and are interchangeable as long as you flash the right sw.
Would you like to a link here to where to buy combi-adapter by JohnC ? Thanx very much..
www.trionictuning.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=191
Has anyone flashed a T8 via OBD using Kess v2?
You do know there is a fuse puller in the fuse box ;-)
Yeah, I know. :)
first i have succeeded in life now
I'm afraid it's gonna be downhill from now on.
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Hej Fy F*n vad du är duktig på att lära ut. Jag har haft mycket nytta av dina kunskaper. Jag kollade en video som inte är så bra: ua-cam.com/video/vw1o9x7fLoU/v-deo.html Kan du ev. göra en mer detaljerad och bättre motsvarighet är du snäll? Tack på förhand.
Haha, tack så mycket! :) Den videon visar egentligen inget om hur själva trimmningen går till, för det behöver du antingen en .bin-fil eller en mappning gjord av ett proffs. Annars har du all info du behöver i filmen jag gjort (plus de videos jag länkar)
Saab overengineered everything
So if I purchase a flashed stage 1 Maptun ECU for my 9-5 will it work without changing chassis code and immobilizer etc? Thanks