What's in a league of its own is Grand Seiko's High Beat 36000 with 80 hours power reserve. That's much more advanced technology than the old spring drive. They had to reinvent the escapement to even make something like that work. The spring drive is more faithful to how time flows in reality. However, the High Beat discretely measures out each fraction of a second individually. The spring drive just ensures a generally accurate sweep across a second, kept precise by quartz vibrations. So the high beat has a tighter focus on moments of time and with that power reserve, it blows everyone else out the water. I just wish it had a small extra dial to show each tenth of a second being measured out clearly.
The best video made so far re: beat rates on UA-cam, especially for non-watch makers. This highlights how great of an innovation the co-axial movement by George Daniel was to reduce the friction. I think one other item to note is the new 9SA5 movement from Grand Seiko that has a hi-beat 36K vph with 80 hours power reserve, more specifically the dual impulse escapement that supposedly reduce friction rates materially with the direct and indirect interaction, lessening service intervals. Not sure how this will perform long-term but if it does as advertised, I think it's up there with the co-axial as far as innovation...I guess only time will tell (pun intended).
Definitely loving these types of videos. As a somebody who’s still relatively new to watch collecting, these videos are very informative and help in choosing a new watch. There’s just so many specs within a watch that even newer people to this hobby have no idea what they mean and it’s just so helpful having them broken down in supérate videos dedicated to the subject
Awesome vid! Just wanted to offer up a quick tip: Hz is always pronounced “Hertz”, whether it’s one Hertz, 3.5 Hertz, or 100,000 Hertz. There isn’t a “singular” version cause it’s actually the name of a scientist. But keep up the good work! Love the channel.
This is an amazing video and one I will come back to again and again, Teddy, and one I imagine others will refer to for years to come explaining the various beatrates that give us that smooth (or not-so-smooth) sweep we love in mechanicals. It's great how you break it down so anyone can understand and the macros and sped up vids are an achievement. Thank you.
I know this is a 2 year video, but thank you Teddy! In one video you show us a family heirloom, watches that your company doesn’t sell and still manage to educate us! 👏 👏 👏
Yup. I was scrolling through looking for a shout-out to this movement. Bulova Precisionists are a marvel. I'm waiting for Citizen to do amazing things with it. I know with the current battery and solar cell technology the Eco-Precisionist isn't a possibility, but one can dream, right? Most of the Precisionists seem to be in larger size watches and I wonder if that is attributable to the larger battery needed for that higher beat. The design language of most of the Precisionist line is something polarizing as well. I've briefly owned a couple and the second sweep is mesmerizing.
on point details- great vid... altho im an atomic , solar quartz guy and don't have time to keep checking my watch to see if its stopped or inaccurate... I am blown away of what goes into those mechanicals
Thanks Teddy Your channel has taken me from a complete newbie on watches to someone experienced I can’t thank you enough I love your channel I love watches and I’ve learned so much from you thank you
Well Teddy, I didn't know and now I do. I often wondered why old Seikos were advertised with a Hi Beat movement. Exactly how high on say, an old Lord Marvel, I still don't know. Now I'll be looking at my mechanicals and trying to count the ticks per every five seconds. You've created a nerd! You're good, the Professor in fact. Bless you.
Thanks for this VERY informative video. As you mentioned, the smooth sweep of the second hand is a definite attraction of a mechanical watch, and is what drew me back to mechanical watches, as opposed to the jerk of a quartz watch's second hand.
Very interesting vid Teddy, you mention your show your Grandfather's Hamilton, it would be great to hear about your own journey into Horologly and maybe some stories behind watches you or your family members owned. Keep up the great content.
Excellent video, great information and explanation. There is no doubt that the Spring Drive is the ultimate technology in mechanical watches due to it's integration with high technology without sacrificing the tradition of mechanical movement.
A modern watch maker using 18,000vph is Roger Smith (George Daniel's apprentice), with a single wheel coaxial escapement - I think he said he's managed to decrease service intervals to every 15 years.
I have the King Seiko 4502 which has a 36000 beat rate and is so satisfying to look at. I was told though that the KS 56-series is more desired because of the 28800 vph because it would last longer (less wear and tear). Because of that, I was careful to use my KS 4502 only on special occasions to minimize the wear and tear. Overall, great well-presented explanation video!
I always hit the thumbs up on your videos (even if I don’t agree) because you put in so much effort and great research. It’s always nice to see a new Teddy video.
Teddy has super informative videos about watches. This is another. I've been interested in watches since I was a kid, and I always learn from his videos.🙂
Fantastic video! A great presentation and I feel much more informed. I have been into watches for about 5 years and when I see VPH I always tell myself I’ll learn about it another time. Now I have a general understanding, thanks man.
While I know the various beat rates, how they come about, and the pros and cons, this is good informative content that helps for me to share to those who want to know about watches and their workings. Well done, Terry. Your videos are good reference material for sharing with those new to watches. Keep it coming.
I have a Bulova Accutron and a Seiko 5S21. They are both quartz but they both have sweeping second hands. Since I have a few watches my automatics stop for not being in rotation and it can be a bit of a hassle setting up the time everytime I wear a watch. So, I end up wearing my G-Shock/quartz watches more and among quartz watches the Accutron and the 5S21 gets the most wrist time, since I love the smooth sweep. I wish Seiko/Grand Seiko/Bulova will produce quartz watches with sweeping second hands again, watches between 37mm-40mm diameter with 100m water resistance will be great no nonsense, pick up and go, everyday watches.
i love how all of these watches have something each unique to offer, love my Omega Seamaster, but gotta give it to that Grand Seiko for that smooth sweep.
Great Video!!! love the breakdown on of the concept + the beautiful footage A+ the gear diagrams at the start were nice too but the connection animation between the different gears could use some work to make it more visually transparent. small nitpick.
I have the EXACT same Hamilton from my grandfather. Same spiedel (I think that’s the brand not sure) gold stretch bracelet. Same condition. They loved those stretchy gold bracelets back then. My dad kept his gold oyster perpetual on one all the way through the 80s.
Just what I was about to mention. I really want to see 40Hz/80 ticks a second in action, also what it looks like in 5x slomo compared to these other watches. In a sense FC is not "cheating" with any electric circuit and is much closer to true mechanical operation than Grand Seiko is. That said I still want to own a spring drive watch one day. ;)
Excellent...great to see the comparisons...I'm a high beat guy, Tag @ 28,8, but that one was a splurge admittedly. 21.6 sits well, though I need to acquire a stethoscope for the audio side of mech watch poetry.
I'm just getting into watch collecting and love your technical videos like this. I just purchased my first watch from your store(Khaki Auto Day Date), but I was wondering about other reputable online dealers for watches that you are not an authorized dealer of(Seiko, Longines, etc). Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and keep up the great work!
E Poole As a side note some quartz movements can sweep a seconds hand. Bulova makes their “Precisionist” a quartz that “ticks” at 16x a second. Also they used to make the “tuning fork” Accutron, those had a smooth sweep as well. The newer Accutron has a “Electrostatic Movement” I’ve never seen one, but those are rumored to be butter smooth.....
Great Video 👌 I've honestly learned more from you, Teddy, than anybody else on UA-cam after really sinking my teeth in... Finding I have a genuine love and enthusiasm for Watches and the History/Culture behind & surrounding the Watch "world" So if you read this... THANK YOU. Oh, the amazing photography and videography/editing doesn't hurt either 😉
Spring drive is on another level. One of the biggest innovations in watchmaking. Hats off to Seiko.
I just bought a snowflake. It was so light in my hands. And it looked beautiful. Had to have it.
It's too costly for the general public
I literally might sell my gold day date for a titanium spring drive watch. And then have to get a new gold tone watch that's worth handing down.
@@apoorvsaxena3886 it’s not made for the general public. 🤦🤦
@@Bear18533 but they should,even we like spring drive watches
Spring Drive is in a league of it's own. It's perfectly smooth. The most perfect representation of the continuous flow of time.
What's in a league of its own is Grand Seiko's High Beat 36000 with 80 hours power reserve. That's much more advanced technology than the old spring drive. They had to reinvent the escapement to even make something like that work.
The spring drive is more faithful to how time flows in reality. However, the High Beat discretely measures out each fraction of a second individually. The spring drive just ensures a generally accurate sweep across a second, kept precise by quartz vibrations.
So the high beat has a tighter focus on moments of time and with that power reserve, it blows everyone else out the water. I just wish it had a small extra dial to show each tenth of a second being measured out clearly.
seiko is selling their crap very expensive
The best video made so far re: beat rates on UA-cam, especially for non-watch makers. This highlights how great of an innovation the co-axial movement by George Daniel was to reduce the friction. I think one other item to note is the new 9SA5 movement from Grand Seiko that has a hi-beat 36K vph with 80 hours power reserve, more specifically the dual impulse escapement that supposedly reduce friction rates materially with the direct and indirect interaction, lessening service intervals. Not sure how this will perform long-term but if it does as advertised, I think it's up there with the co-axial as far as innovation...I guess only time will tell (pun intended).
Teddy Bulbasaur keeping his game sharp, hitting us with that razor leaf 🍃 👍💯
Have been getting Pokémon jokes my entire life haha
Teddy Bulbasaur smokes that leaf to get the HIGHEST of beat rates
@@nintendokings bruh 😂
Makes an awesome video about the mechanics of watch movements, comments to make a pokemon joke about his surname 🤷♂️
@The Once and Future King! Bendydick Cabbagepatch is better
This is why yours has been the first watch channel I started to follow years ago and it's still my favorite. Teddy #1!
Same here!
Teddy, Jodi, Jory, and TGV are responsible for my collection.
That…and my Apple Watch broke a few years ago.
Great job explaining beat rate Teddy.
My King Seiko 45-7001 from 1972 with 36000 bph is just so smooth and satisfying to look at.
that's impressive!
Not as impressive as my 4502-7000 from 1968! Only joking they're both great!
Definitely loving these types of videos. As a somebody who’s still relatively new to watch collecting, these videos are very informative and help in choosing a new watch. There’s just so many specs within a watch that even newer people to this hobby have no idea what they mean and it’s just so helpful having them broken down in supérate videos dedicated to the subject
Awesome vid! Just wanted to offer up a quick tip: Hz is always pronounced “Hertz”, whether it’s one Hertz, 3.5 Hertz, or 100,000 Hertz. There isn’t a “singular” version cause it’s actually the name of a scientist. But keep up the good work! Love the channel.
Literally this. Hertz was someone's name (Heinrich's, to be precise.) ... there is no 'hert'.
Amazing video. Thanks for taking the time to create this! Love the video comparison side by side shots
Great video! You should review the new Frederique Constant 40HZ (288,000 vph) watch! Crazy technology!
Top notch video Teddy! Thank you.
Your knowledge and videography keep getting more and more impressive. Keep up the great work.
Thank you Teddy! I've always had the doubd about beat rate and the importance of it, really well explained!
I am always impressed with your detailed knowledge on watches and your ability to break things down into something I can understand.
You are incredible. I'm addicted to these videos. So amazingly done. THANK YOU
Didn't have anything to say, just commenting for the algorithm. 🙌🏼 Keep up the great work, Teddy.
Appreciate it Ryan! It does help!
Yuuup! Nice work Teddy. Thanks for the breakdown
The one we've been waiting for. 💯
Thanks Teddy. 🙏
This is an amazing video and one I will come back to again and again, Teddy, and one I imagine others will refer to for years to come explaining the various beatrates that give us that smooth (or not-so-smooth) sweep we love in mechanicals. It's great how you break it down so anyone can understand and the macros and sped up vids are an achievement. Thank you.
I know this is a 2 year video, but thank you Teddy!
In one video you show us a family heirloom, watches that your company doesn’t sell and still manage to educate us!
👏 👏 👏
Great video, Teddy. Here's one for the algorithm!
Great content Teddy.
Very good and detailed explanation. And just an hour ago I read news about a brandnew 40 HZ caliber from Fréderique Constant. Amazing invention.
Great video Ted. My favorite second sweep comes from Bulova’s accutron or precisionist movements, much like the spring drive, they are very smooth.
Yup. I was scrolling through looking for a shout-out to this movement. Bulova Precisionists are a marvel. I'm waiting for Citizen to do amazing things with it. I know with the current battery and solar cell technology the Eco-Precisionist isn't a possibility, but one can dream, right?
Most of the Precisionists seem to be in larger size watches and I wonder if that is attributable to the larger battery needed for that higher beat. The design language of most of the Precisionist line is something polarizing as well.
I've briefly owned a couple and the second sweep is mesmerizing.
Thank you Teddy. This is a wealth of knowledge. Great video. Happy Easter.
Happy Easter to you!
The smoothness of the second hand is very important, and is proof of a person's style and taste.
Your info videos are always insightful, i probably learn all my horology related knowledge from your channel.
Definitely one of the best videos you've done so far Teddy. Thank you
I’m a big fan of the technical videos! Don’t mind the length either, as I always watch these all the way through. Thanks for the great content!
Another great video Teddy! Amazing to see all the different beat rates side by side to be able to actually make out the difference.
Awesome topic, production, and visuals as always. Good work sir 👌🏼
on point details- great vid... altho im an atomic , solar quartz guy and don't have time to keep checking my watch to see if its stopped or inaccurate... I am blown away of what goes into those mechanicals
Very informative video as always! Thanks Teddy!
Thanks Teddy Your channel has taken me from a complete newbie on watches to someone experienced I can’t thank you enough I love your channel I love watches and I’ve learned so much from you thank you
One of your best vids, very educational, greetings from Italy !
Well Teddy, I didn't know and now I do. I often wondered why old Seikos were advertised with a Hi Beat movement. Exactly how high on say, an old Lord Marvel, I still don't know. Now I'll be looking at my mechanicals and trying to count the ticks per every five seconds. You've created a nerd! You're good, the Professor in fact. Bless you.
Thanks for this VERY informative video. As you mentioned, the smooth sweep of the second hand is a definite attraction of a mechanical watch, and is what drew me back to mechanical watches, as opposed to the jerk of a quartz watch's second hand.
Very interesting vid Teddy, you mention your show your Grandfather's Hamilton, it would be great to hear about your own journey into Horologly and maybe some stories behind watches you or your family members owned. Keep up the great content.
What a good subject to explore. Thank you Teddy.
brilliant content!! I'm 12 months into my watch collecting journey. But this is the content every enthusiast needs
Premium video edited Teddy! Also high end content and watch education.
Another great video, Teddy. My passion for watches has grown in direct proportion to viewing your videos!
Love the intro! Lovely animations!
Excellent video, great information and explanation. There is no doubt that the Spring Drive is the ultimate technology in mechanical watches due to it's integration with high technology without sacrificing the tradition of mechanical movement.
Great as always but it’s Hertz never Hert! Had to get that out there as an electrical engineer:) Keep up the good work!
So helpful! Definitely didn't understand this previously!
Great video I need to watch this a few times, but you explain this very well
A modern watch maker using 18,000vph is Roger Smith (George Daniel's apprentice), with a single wheel coaxial escapement - I think he said he's managed to decrease service intervals to every 15 years.
Great stuff and well explained for simple layman like me. My horology knowledge has improved because of channels like yours. Well done and thank you.
You should do a 5 minute video of just that shot from 14:36 of all the different second hands sweeping around...
I appreciate the well produced videos.
I have the King Seiko 4502 which has a 36000 beat rate and is so satisfying to look at. I was told though that the KS 56-series is more desired because of the 28800 vph because it would last longer (less wear and tear). Because of that, I was careful to use my KS 4502 only on special occasions to minimize the wear and tear.
Overall, great well-presented explanation video!
I always hit the thumbs up on your videos (even if I don’t agree) because you put in so much effort and great research. It’s always nice to see a new Teddy video.
I know it's quartz but a tiny mention about Bulova Precisionist would be interesting :)
Second that!
It's an amazing movement, isn't it?
@@KabobHope definitely. I wonder if Bulova is the only manufacturer with this type of movement.
Teddy should in the 57000 bph for the Bulova movt
I was specifically looking for this comment.
Always inspiring to watch your videos
Great Work Teddy. Didn't know about the co-axial movement (seen it on OMEGA dials).
Greetings from beautiful Greece. Theodore
Teddy has super informative videos about watches. This is another. I've been interested in watches since I was a kid, and I always learn from his videos.🙂
I smile when I listen to my vintage grand seiko and it makes the same beat as the modern ones in the newer seiko videos
Great video! Don’t forget the new fredrique constant monolith is 40Hz.
Great video
Lets try please with more videos like this
I mean educational😊
Btw loving the channel and knowledge Teddy is sharing
The spring drive slomo Intro was good 👌
Thank you for this video Teddy!!
Great beat to the video today. Thanks.
Teddy great video, joy to watch it.
Man your videos are so helpful!! Thank you so much for all the videos up there please keep them coming 🙏
Great video, Teddy!
First video seen on this aspect, thanks!
Fantastic video! A great presentation and I feel much more informed. I have been into watches for about 5 years and when I see VPH I always tell myself I’ll learn about it another time. Now I have a general understanding, thanks man.
Another very excellent posting. Thanks!🙏 ❤
While I know the various beat rates, how they come about, and the pros and cons, this is good informative content that helps for me to share to those who want to know about watches and their workings. Well done, Terry. Your videos are good reference material for sharing with those new to watches. Keep it coming.
Well done Teddy - appreciate the deep dive into bph !
I have a Bulova Accutron and a Seiko 5S21. They are both quartz but they both have sweeping second hands. Since I have a few watches my automatics stop for not being in rotation and it can be a bit of a hassle setting up the time everytime I wear a watch. So, I end up wearing my G-Shock/quartz watches more and among quartz watches the Accutron and the 5S21 gets the most wrist time, since I love the smooth sweep. I wish Seiko/Grand Seiko/Bulova will produce quartz watches with sweeping second hands again, watches between 37mm-40mm diameter with 100m water resistance will be great no nonsense, pick up and go, everyday watches.
i love how all of these watches have something each unique to offer, love my Omega Seamaster, but gotta give it to that Grand Seiko for that smooth sweep.
Great stuff. Laying it all out in a easy to understand way is awesome. Also want to contribute to the algorithm
Great Video!!! love the breakdown on of the concept + the beautiful footage A+
the gear diagrams at the start were nice too but the connection animation between the different gears could use some work to make it more visually transparent. small nitpick.
Thanks Teddy your absolutely smashing it my friend, really wanted to know this. 🙌🏽
Very good well made video. Very informative. Thanks a lot. Keep up the great job.
Excellent video, love the content oriented videos you produce, Great!
Masterful! Thank you.
Excellent video. I like when you do videos like this one or the one about the different automatic movement companies.
Great production value, bro!
Love the technical content!
Thank you Teddy for this value information.
I have the EXACT same Hamilton from my grandfather. Same spiedel (I think that’s the brand not sure) gold stretch bracelet. Same condition. They loved those stretchy gold bracelets back then. My dad kept his gold oyster perpetual on one all the way through the 80s.
Really great breakdown of beat rate also that sweeet vintage Hamilton tho
Loved this video. Good job
What about the new Frederique Constant Monolithic?
Great video as always!
I’d like to see that as well!
Just what I was about to mention. I really want to see 40Hz/80 ticks a second in action, also what it looks like in 5x slomo compared to these other watches. In a sense FC is not "cheating" with any electric circuit and is much closer to true mechanical operation than Grand Seiko is. That said I still want to own a spring drive watch one day. ;)
Excellent...great to see the comparisons...I'm a high beat guy, Tag @ 28,8, but that one was a splurge admittedly. 21.6 sits well, though I need to acquire a stethoscope for the audio side of mech watch poetry.
Thanks for another great video happy Easter Teddy
Excellent content, as usual.
This is some really interesting content.. Keep up the awesome videos Teddy!!
Very nice and informative video, keep the good work my friend!
I'm just getting into watch collecting and love your technical videos like this. I just purchased my first watch from your store(Khaki Auto Day Date), but I was wondering about other reputable online dealers for watches that you are not an authorized dealer of(Seiko, Longines, etc). Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and keep up the great work!
Great list. Interesting information and well-presented, as always!
E Poole
As a side note some quartz movements can sweep a seconds hand. Bulova makes their “Precisionist” a quartz that “ticks” at 16x a second. Also they used to make the “tuning fork” Accutron, those had a smooth sweep as well. The newer Accutron has a “Electrostatic Movement” I’ve never seen one, but those are rumored to be butter smooth.....
Very cool technical video here, Teddy! I'd love to get a high beat Grand Seiko and/or a Spring drive some day.
Great Video 👌
I've honestly learned more from you, Teddy, than anybody else on UA-cam after really sinking my teeth in... Finding I have a genuine love and enthusiasm for Watches and the History/Culture behind & surrounding the Watch "world"
So if you read this... THANK YOU.
Oh, the amazing photography and videography/editing doesn't hurt either 😉
Flexing you guys videography skills 💪🏻 great episode
Great informative video Teddy.
Love the content.
Great Video. Thx Teddy !