Multi Room HDMI - Wireless, HDMI over IP, Powerlines, HDMI over Ethernet
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- Hi, this video shows various different way to get HDMI working in a different room or multiple rooms in your property. It is ideal if you want to watch your Virgin Media or Sky Box in other rooms without paying for extra boxes.
I show various different options which are time stamped below. For example Wireless HDMI, HDMI over IP using Ethernet and Powerline adapters etc. I test both cheap and expensive options.
Here are the time stamps below so you can go straight to the option that interests you :
5:27 - £2.99 HDMI over 2 Ethernet cables.
8:44 - £12.95 HDMI over 1 Ethernet cable.
11:21 - £24.99 HDMI over Ethernet with IR.
15:54 - £32.69 30m long HDMI cable.
17:55 - £72.99 HDMI over IP.
25:25 - HDMI over IP using Powerline.
31:32 - £250 Wireless HDMI.
Many thanks Vince.
Excellent, in-depth review. You went to a lot of effort to do this for us and it’s very much appreciated, thank you.
This is a really informative video, kudos for going the extra mile and sorry about the extra cost that came with it. It helped giving understanding in Ethernet/IP performance with 1080p.
wow! who knew all those options are available for HDMI!! Thank you so much! Now my original plan of moving the Mac Mini into the IT vestibule I'm finishing would be feasible without a long ass HDMI cable going through the attic! I literally just watched this video while working on my CAT6 patch panel so HDMI over IP is looking mighty fine! Cheers!
anyone with google?
I'm in the US, and my house is roughly 20 years old. It was built right before running ethernet was mainstream. My electrical wiring is near perfect with copper wiring that isn't very old, and it all has a good connection in the electrical panel, and to all the outlets and switches. I use the TP-Link AV1000 powerline ethernet adapters, and they work absolutely perfectly. I've never had any disconnections or slow downs. There is times where I max them out, and they just keep on chugging along. If anyone has anything similar to mine, with a little bit of research on powerline networking, that might be the best bet for multi-room HDMI. We plan on doing some major remodeling soon, and plan on running tons of cat 6 cable.
I've seen a few videos on this subject but this has to be the best for me. Very useful, informative and helpful.
Vince I'm glad to call you a mate. 👍🏾
I'm living in England 50 years and I never heard of aluminium house wiring. Good video. I'm trying to find an alternative to my laggy chromecast.
It's OLD. 1965-1972 In the US. Copper prices were high. Used as an alternative. But connections are bad. Fire issues.
Enjoyed the video, i liked the fact that you reviewed more than 1 option for this project. I feel most people would find the WiFi receiver their best choice and then the over-IP box as an alternative option. I will try both and let you know how it goes. Thank you
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Well done Vince for taking the time and expense to try and solve other people’s problems
Videos like yours are to be applauded, keep up the good work. I use a different method but unfortunately I’m not as proficient as your goodself at explaining the solution.Thank you.
Thanks for the nice comments :-)
Fantastic video. Tells me everything I need to make my decision on how to run HDMI multiroom. Thanks for going the extra mile.
Great video. I was trying to decide how to accomplish this in my house. After watching the video, I opted for the HDMI over IP. It works flawlessly. Thanks for all of the helpful info. Matt from USA.
Thanks Matt :-)
Hey I'm in New Zealand and have been pondering on how to get Sky on the other rooms in my house.
Watching your vid showing the various options I think I might plump for the HDMI over IP option.
Thanks for doing the leg work for the rest us.
Thanks mate.
BRILLIANT TUTORIAL! So Thorough. So Detailed. Awesome job Vince.
Just ordered a HSV560 for looking into a remote gaming setup (kvm over ip)
Going to use 2 dedicated wireless-n routers for connecting these together.
This video helped me decide what hardware to order. Thanks
Not really a comment guy but just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to make this. Very informative.
Interesting, the hdmi over ip interests me a lot
I've got powerline in my room and a spare one I wonder if the IP one would work alongside it with internet 🤔
Wow I saw this video a while ago when I was trying to find out how to do wireless HDMI and I had no idea that a year later I'd find myself glued to this channel for completely different reason by complete accident. It's funny how things work out like that.
Vince keep making videos
Your the best designer ever I appreciate you so much
I know this video is like 2 years old but this is seriously well explained video, awesome job man
I really appreciate your introduction to the different options and walk-through of the implementation. I have just started to rethink my media room and it has helped me get my head wrapped around what options I have to accomplish what is I want to do.
Just wanted to say I love your Videos, keep up the great work. I have a CCTV system and was looking at various ways of how I could transmit the picture to various rooms without running shed loads of cables and this Video really helped. The HDMI Over IP using Powerline seems like the perfect option, you've saved me a lot of time and probably returns etc :)
I was also thinking of all the option on how to repeat my HDMI to multiple TVs on multiple floor. You showed me a few things I didn't know about. And now I see 1 more option that can be used that you missed. In your video, there was a way you did using
HDMI > Ethernet > Powerline
I think another way is using the existing WIFI routers and WIFI extenders. Meaning
HDMI ethernet transmitter > Wifi Router > Wifi Extender > HDMI ethernet receiver.
I am not sure if this is possible before. But after watching how it worked using Powerline. I am pretty confident now that it will also work if you just integrate it into the already existing WIFI network at your home.
This is great! Thanks for going through all these options and making it clear to understand the setups.
Thanks!
fantastic video, enjoyed the simplicity and real world demonstration of each solution. thanks for taking the time to create it
Profound analysis. Great! I like HD extenders most!
my respect, excellent job, soonly i starting a unifi video project and your video help me alot, definitely hdmi over ip is my choice, thank again
amazing video well done. I would like to mention- A HDMI spliter does decrease the single.
Thanks so much! This video saved me so much time interns of research. Keep it up
Man, this is a great video tutorial about wiring, just what i needed as i was going crazy how to setup my stuff inside the house!
Very good and very complete review. Please keep up the good work
Thanks for the video! At our church, I have 5 hdmi over cat6 extenders (different Chinese brand) that work well. However I planned on using 2 more in our gymnasium expansion and I'm running into a signal problem. The hdmi over ip are probably the solution I will use and if needed, setup a vlan to keep the traffic separate.
Just to clarify for viewers - You don’t need to use a network switch with the Mirabox HDMI over IP when just using two endpoints. It supports point to point so you can just hook them up directly together over Ethernet. Using a network switch is necessary for if you want to use one Sender to multiple Receiver units. Just figured I’d clarify this to anyone who wants to use the Mirabox but only between two TVs.
I use a Belkin screencast AV4 wireless HDMI... The don't seem to make these anymore but work very well. I think they were brought to market way to early in HDMI standards and thus didn't sell... got mine on clearance for under $100 AUD
Best video I could find on this subject 👍👍
I have done this in my home, to watch the digital tv box content also in the bedroom. I have the hdmi over IP. Because i go to 1 extra tv i don't need the switch. The ethernetcable goes directly from sender to receiver (not over my lan, like you also adviced). The picture and sound are great and almost no delay. Picture quality is 1080p.
Some tips...i use a yamaha receiver which i use as a hdmi switch, so now i can see all my sources on the bedroom tv (PS, tv box, blueray, chromecast......), so if you have a receiver you can save yourself a switch.
Some (higher end) receiver have also a hdmi out2, this works as splitter. The source i choose on the receiver will go through hdmi out1 to the livingroom tv. The same signal comes out of hdmi out2. Via a hdmi cable i go to the hdmi sender, then through the ethernetcable to to bedroom, into the hdmi receiver and as last from there via a hdmi cable to bedroom tv.
The ifrared also wotks great. But some tv boxes (like i have) have an app for controlling them. So you can buy the cheaper one without IR and still change channels on the tv with your smartphone(app).
It is by no means cheap, but I had a project where I ran HDMI over a couple hundred feet of coax, and it worked surprisingly well. The adapters were about $100US each though.
So just wanted it in full. Fantastic real world review. I had aa sony KDL 40EX1 tv that transmitted the HD picture for a hub to the screen so no tracking of walls (got it in 2010) thenit recently broke due to faulty tcon board, so had a to buy a new TV and of course wireless hd in tv's is not a thing any more. Have bene going back and for the over options especially with the Nyrius device you have (some reviews are not good of it at all). It seems to work flawlessly for you and I only have a distance of 2 meters to content with. The HD over IP interests me especially over powerline adapters. ( I actually sent that actual question to someone on amazon who sells hd over ip devices, just before I came across your review). Thank you
love your videos vince! learned alot throughout the years, thanks for taking the time to do these
Just came across this because my in-laws have switched from SkyHD to SkyQ and they need a solution.
As most people are probably aware, SkyQ has no RF and they previously used that with a Magic Eye to control their bedroom tv. They don't wish to rent a mini SkyQ box and don't have any broadband either (aged retirees with no interest in anything tech but tv).
So far I've found a few realistic options, either an HDMI modulator or the Mirabox options in the second half of this video are clearly simplest because I only need one cable between the two locations - either 75 ohm rf for the modulator or cat 5e for the mirabox.
What is not clear on this or any other video/review is the function and placement of the IR transmitter at the master end. The Magic Eye needed nothing at the master, it controlled the SkyHD box through direct internal control, yet these two options have a transmitter at the master. When Sky was analogue I used to use devices branded as Pyramids, you set them on a shelf somewhere and pointed one at the master box with another at the side of the remote tv, it used radio to communicate between the two. It seems that in these two cases I must also point the master rf transmitter at the Sky box too but the cable to the rf eye in this video seems short, as do those shown in the manufacturer's marketing images. So my question is, does the master end IR transmitter have to be fixed or placed immediately in front of the Sky box (HD or Q) so the IR is received, or is there some other mechanism?
Another question:
In the case of the Mirabox you use an unmanaged switch. Did you consider the possibility of a single receiver where only one cat 5e is required? The point of this question is that a switch will act as a crossover if necessary so I'm wondering if a single cat5e between the Tx and Rx boxes would need to be a crossover too.
Good work. Very useful information. Thanks.
Vince your under the stairs cabling is starting to look like Google’s data centre 🤔😂
lol :-)
Great review! I've got Sky HD and I'm gonna do the HDMI over IP with power line. Thanks!
in Norway we can have tv via coax or fiber. There is ip tv and we can have several tv tuner boxes and we can run the signal wireless between them if we want
you saved me a ton of headach. was planning the powerline method for gaming.
I watched this whole video without skipping. What a great video. Answered a lot of questions bar one. Could you have multiple transmitters over into a managed switch with vans to make them separate networks. That would be an awesome video.
Hi Vince, awesome video, this is the type of stuff i do for fun, really enjoyed watching this, gives me a few options now for the kids rooms!
What a video: super informative. I'm impressed!
Working with a system at our Church... trying to transmit HDMI signal over Cat5E for 120ish feet.... not having much luck so far,
currently only thing I've got working is a low quality VGA signal. Thanks for the good video, it's given me a few ideas to try out. mardyn
Technomate makes really good bits of kit like this these days!
Excellent reviews always wondered which are better
Great information video, thanks Vince.
Very very well made video. One of the best I've seen in a long time.. One thing though, I just wish that you could have listed the equipment you used in the description with maybe a link to buy them.
Another option you may want to look at is HDBaseT which again runs over a single cable and in various lengths but commonly 60m. That Technomate device you have there may well be one of them but I couldn't tell from the video. HDBaseT also come in a PoE version where the RX box is powered remotely over the cat6 cable. This is what the rich folks run in their mantions where they have a centralised AV system in a cupboard linked to all the rooms. I myself run HDBaseT for mine and my sons computers, we have the computers in a server rack in a central part of the house and just have HDMI and USB extended to his bedroom and the lounge where mine is. This allows us to keep the box noisy boxes out of sight and just run a tidy looking screen where we need it. I use these ones myself and managed to pick up two sets of them at a car boot sale for £5 a set as the person didn't know what they were or their value, bargain! They're usually around £150 a set brand new I believe. www.pulse-eight.com/p/174/neopro-transmitter-100m-hdbaset
Another thing you might like to look at is a HDMI Matrix which allows you to have multiple displays connected to multiple sources and be able to freely switch between the two. You could view one device on two screens, or have separate sources and switch them up as needed so you could even play Xbox from upstairs if the controller range reached.
And to combine the two of these options, a HDBaseT Matrix has HDMI inputs, and cat6 outputs, and on the other end just put a HDBaseT receiver. They are big money though, around £1k for a basic model
As a network engineer that under the stairs locker made my eyes bleed. The review was great though
mikosoft Try working on a college campus infrastructure. His looks like nothing compared to that lmao.
When I was a university student the network on our dorm went through major reconstruction and it went from something like that on the video to a pro looking network. There were 12 sections in that dorm and every one had a nice tidied up rack with switches and neatly ran cables. Even if at that time I didn't yet appreciate it (I didn't choose networking as major yet) I can recall the look of it. But it was a technology university and the dorm was full of nerds so it kinda makes sense.
Well since my university was a state funded one with state workers - you can probably imagine how much "care" was put into tidiness in any regard. :P
Same as my university. But at the dorm the network was ran by a bunch of volunteers who even found a nonprofit to raise money to cover operational costs. Everybody who wanted to be connected had to join the nonprofit and pay a yearly contribution to the nonprofit. It's a very clever system and I'd recommend it in a heartbeat to any such setting. The only downside is there need to be enough volunteers to do the job :D
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Great video and in depth detail on various products👍🏻
Neet Cables (on Amazon) have a reasonably priced (~£70) hdmi 4x2 matrix which I have used for a number of years now for viewing in the living room and bedroom, either the same or different sources.
Hi all
I have CCTV on a work yard and looking at putting another monitor in a separate office from the unit (all on the same ring main) what would you think is best using HDMI over poweline?
I watched this video because I saw that long hdmi cable you were using. I had 2 of them (15m) and found them to be absolute rubbish. Sent them back. I see you couldnt get them to work either. I had a better quality 20m cable that worked perfectly.
Fantastic, this is really great and detailed information, thank you so much to take time and do this video.
Thank you very much for sharing.. Cant press like enough times.
love you for this video Vince
The coiled cable won't help but It's a good worst case scenario test.... ahh good, you acknowledged this... Latency would be good to know... Ahh you mentioned lag on the IP solition...
Really interesting, although I'm kinda glad that I don't really watch live TV anymore given the costs involved. I just put an Android TV box in each room and stream everything.
I cut my cable probably going on 4 yrs now...only have an internet connection, and like you have either been downloading or streaming content.
@@1Patient Yeah I know for a lot of folks it's been a conscious decision but for me it just sorta happened over time. I wanna watch things when I'm in the mood for them and some shows are just really dark and depressing & other times I don't want comedy on say a Friday evening. Thankfully there's now lots of free on-demand TV and we'll pretend that I don't torrent the other things.
just subscribed, i always seem to get linked to your vids anyway! and always enjoy them!
going to give the hdmi over ip a go but going through powerline..
if you are going to use it in the same network you need a IGMP switch or router that supports IGMP, and it has to be gigabit because 1080p uses 80Mbps per receiver which will saturate a 100mbps network easilly.
most routers has IGMP snooping option in the config but switches doesn't have means to configure and you need to look at their specs to know if they are IGMP capable
Excellent explanation. Helps a lot
The v6 remote uses RF and I have discovered it does continue to work even in another room or floor of the building
I would've posted this too but saw your comment. Can confirm.. The Virgin V6 remotes don't need IR line of sight and should work from different rooms in the house. It might be more beneficial not to use IR as you might start controlling the downstairs TV & volume if you're upstairs..
Actually I just saw the end of the video where the remote wasn't working.. Ignore me!
That’s 36 mins well spent. Thanks.
very happy you made this
This guy is a legend ;-)
Great video and well explained.
Nice video. One issue with HDMI is not the cable but the wires. HDMI spec calls for the wire lengths to have a difference less than 3mm. So when you take a 30M (30,000mm) cable, the tolerances have to be exact. (0.0001%)
Very interesting, thanks for sharing :-)
Use two splitters on both ends of the really long HDMI runs to "push" and "pull" the signal. Works pretty good.
I know this is old video, but your test with powerline adapter was on a powersurge extension by the looks of it, powerline adaptor does not work well with powersurge protector extensions cables as it causes signal issue within the system which is usually stated in the manual book too, best result is directly into main sockets.
This is great. My system has failed at home - internal Cat5 cabling but the matrix i think has broken. YOur video has given me ideas as to how to bypass this old kit for more up to date kit
thanks
Hey Vince, awesome video. Just wanted to ask what you do as a job? You seem very versed in Networking!
Hi there, thank you :-) I used to work as a phone engineer for BT and then telecom/networking sales. I'm just a bit of a cable nerd :-)
I had seen this cheap ones and kinda figured that they were just connecting the bare minimum wires and figured the 2 cat cables was better but good to know
Awesome video. Well done testing 👍
Thank you for the great presentation!
Ya with that balun good thing you have cat 6 because all the connections like the patch panel and all also every electrical cable it passes by and even heat in your walls would increase resistance
Thanks so much for all your work. v. helpful!!!!
I used to have a similar task in my house. I also considered project using HDMI over IP transmitters. Well.. I think its very strange solution from an economic point of view and its also not good for user expiernce.
Look, one transmitter costs more than AndridTVBOX!
With help of AndridTVBOX you can watch content from NAS or cloud services in 4k + HDR (or 3D if you need). Play with help of Moonlight PC games or Sony games with PSN on Android. You can also use WiFi, so you dont need wire at all. At the same time, each TV is individual for the user. You made quite strange decision.. I was a little surprised.
Now I have TVBOX in every room and they are doing an excellent job. For example, in the bedroom I have the only 3D TV in the house and it is very convenient that everything is set up for 3D content right away.
AndridTVBOX + NAS = best choice!
Great review, thank you for sharing.
The best review so far on hdmi over different cat5/6 extenders. Good job, keep it up!
However, could an active female hdmi to female hdmi signal booster, boost the signal enough, right before the cat5 cable devices to have a proper signal over the TV end where you had none?
So the setup would be: Output device -> hdmi cable -> HDMI BOOSTER -> (adapter female hdmi to male hdmi) -> hdmi over cat5/6 transmitter -> cat5/6 cable -> hdmi over cat5/6 reciever -> hdmi cable -> TV
This was great thank you very informative!!
Great videos mate. The Virgin V6 remote is Bluetooth mate
Correct
Hats of to you sir!!!! God bless!!!
You should look into HDMI over Fiber. Now that's interesting. Also My Mate VINCE, you should look into HDMI/USB over IP. That transmits both audio/visual and USB data connections.
Yes, I like the sound of the HDMI over Fibre, the prices look like they have dropped recently so hopefully once they come down a bit more I can experiment with them :-)
This would be great for a security system. You could dedicate an HDMI input on each TV to your cameras so you can watch your cameras in any room.
Great, nice explanation
Thank you, this is very useful information
brilliant video and very well explained
Wow this is a great comparison thank you
You can without any problems, use your existing network. These devices use multicast traffic (one to many), meaning that it sends out a single video stream on you network, 30-50 Mbit/s normally, and then anything setup correctly can read that multicast stream, so the traffic load on the network would be the same using 1 reciever or 100 when it comes to the actual video stream, not taking DHCP and keep alive traffic, hence the arbitrary limit of 100. Meaning that only if you had gigabit internet or you do gigabit file transfer to a NAS, would you be able to detect any slowdown of around the same speed of the multicast stream. These devices also allow traffic to be sent back to the video transmitter to pass on IR, this is unicast traffic (one to one) and does not put any noticeable load on your network as it is only a few Kb of data that can be transmitted in a single package. What is more important is to use good quality network equipment like HP, Cisco, Juniper or my favourite Ubiquiti as it is way cheaper than the other brands. Normal consumer network hardware tends to get bogged down with the RAM filling up, and not getting cleared correctly so you have to restart it from time to time. What is important is the switching capacity of a switch and not if the port is 1 gigabit. It does not help you that your consumer switch have 8 gigabit ports but only 4 or 6 gigabit switching capacity. If you filled up a switch and was sending and recieving from each device on that switch with full capacity, it would mean that each device could send and receive data at the same time at 250Mbit/s each way, if the switch only have 4 gigabit switching capacity and 8 ports. Switches like Ubiquiti 8 port have a total of 16 gigabit switching capacity. This will allow all 8 ports to send and recieve at the same time at 1Gb/s each way. So switching capacity matters way more than port capacity, butt port capacity comes second.
Very nice comparison! Thanx, your the best!
Great review 👍
Very informative review & demo.
Great video. Many thanks
Interesting how things progress and change. But i do have to say you where using a few of the other old types of Ethernet extenders wrong when you had them around the house. You said they went thought two patch panels and also they went thought the panels on the walls. Also it goes though a splitter. Many of these devices will create noise in the signal. Some of these devices do not play well to geather at all. Most of these kind of extenders dont like these extras as well as they can not run though any kind of patch panel or even some splitters. And i know this from installing 100's and 100's of these around London. They have to be one unbroken direct connection. On a few jobs we had to compleatly re-run cables for these screens as they where planned for wrong. And much like you said shealded cat-6 cable can help a lot. The IP extenders were the ones we ended up with mostly in the installation business but we had many years of fun of trying to get these other systems working correctly before IP ones came about. Amazing how cheap its all got. Trust me its cheap now. lol. We Also had fiber extenders. They where grate. Worked over 2km's + lol. Super low latency for the distance but super expensive at the same time. Also the fiber and terminating can be expensive and difficult. For simulators though where they needed the latency to be to lowest we used direct connection, no IP ones as they encode. Oh wireless hmm might work for a while but we always have more issues with wireless in the end. Good for quick easy fix. Cheers for the video.
Thanks for all the detailed information :-)
Awesome video. Very well explained. Im planning on setting up a network running PS4 and pc to multiple displays throughout. So this trial has helped. I'm going to go with the hdmi over IP. Am I right then saying that a switch will act as a splitter... Mirroring the image multiple times ? And it all still works going through your main network switch as well in your cupboard. Amazing.
Awesome video sir! Thanks!
Thanks :-)
This is good work bro, your practical review has really helped me decide. Thanks