Trying to FIX a Faulty Xbox One S stuck in 480P
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- Опубліковано 22 вер 2018
- Hi, this 'trying to fix' video shows me attempting to fix a Xbox One S console which only displays in 480p. Unfortunately 720p, 1080p and 4K is not working. This was purchased from eBay for £96 UK ($125 US).
These 2 videos helped me out tremendously.
Andrew Paul - • XBOX One S Black Scree...
TronicsFix - • Xbox One S Teardown - ...
Apologies for the spelling mistake in the title, I didn't want to upload it again for a missing 'a' in purchasing :-)
Remember that this is just for entertainment and I am not an expert in these repairs. The processes in the video may not be the best way, the correct way or the safest way to fix these things.
I do love fault finding and trying to fix broken things so I hope that comes across in this 'Trying to FIX' series.
Many thanks, Vince. - Навчання та стиль
Your skills are not limited because you have so much determination to fix it
*DETERMINATION*
@@user-eo6rm3bk8p no. no more ddlc please
MY BOY VINCE FINALLY SOLDERED SOMETHING AND ACTUALLY MANAGED TO MAKE THE THING WORK!!! I AM SO PROUD!
He fixed the playstation vita. I think that was him?
@DRGAVINCOMMENTARYS Do you know what he did to fix?
Seriously
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its 4 in the morning why am i watching such quality content
Lol it's 3am for me
5am for me lol
3am for me :D
2am for me lol
4:30am for me :D
You're reaction when you fixed it made me smile, That's not a easy thing to do :) You done a great job!
Hi Vince,
Just watched this through from start to finish - excellent job on the repair! I was rooting for you all the way through that solder job and I was grinning like a Cheshire cat when it all fired up at the end! There's no better feeling when it works.
As you say in the video for QFN packages I recommend a tacky flux rather than the liquid as it helps to hold the ICs in place during rework and as it also has a wider rework window it sticks around longer to enable you to get it nicely in position rather than it just evaporating off before it's done its job.
Liquid flux tends to make the IC float when the heat is applied which is why I think you were having some issues getting it to initially site. A few ways to combat that are to use slightly less liquid flux and start the air wand from further away from the IC until you stop seeing the flux pool around the outside of the IC. At that point you can start to get closer in and surface tension by that point will hold the IC in place while the solder reaches reflow temperature.
The easiest way overall is to use a tacky flux paste - I highly recommend Amtech NC-559-V2-TF for IC rework - you can grab some from the official distributors in the UK (Insat Int.) at bga-reworking.co.uk - I'd only buy from here as there's more fake stuff than legit floating around the market these days which is a shame sadly.
Many thanks for the shout-outs in the last few vids and as always bud if there's anything I can do to help with advice or if you're unsure of anything whatever it may be then just give me a nudge.
All the best,
Andy.
Thanks Andy for watching it, and the nice comments, all the tips and the offer of help. It was your video that I linked in the description and also the one you did on the Xbox One X - ua-cam.com/video/dYNLBYz-iqw/v-deo.html that gave me the confidence. When you go into the minute details in your videos that others brush over it makes people like me (novice) understand things a lot better and you are very calming to watch. A prime example of this was the Xbox One hard drive reformat. I didn't have a clue but followed your video in real time and it worked perfectly. You didn't miss one bit out. It was in my opinion a PERFECT video.
Thanks for making them :-)
Vince :-)
I just came here to recommend Andrew's channel. I mostly watch his PS4 videos, but he also has plenty of Xbox videos. But I see Vince already found your videos! Keep up the good work, both of you!
do you sell your repaired xbox's, or whats happening with them? :3
Andrew Paul fixes broken ones for people. He may in fact sell some that he's fixed, not sure. Vince I think just fixes them for the fun of it. Plus, have you seen him repair these things? Would you really want to buy his fixed things?!? :) I'm pretty sure he has a watch movement to sell... may be missing a gear.
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You are able to keep people hooked up for an hour and a half, and make us invested enough that we share the joy of soldering a chip, for that I salute you sir.
What a guy, writes his soldering notes on the back of his kid's homework. I love it! Keep up the good work my man.
1:22:52 What a triumph. I have tears in my eyes. Fantastic. Congratulations.
Great job on this fix! Enjoyed the video. Andrew Paul is right on with the comment on the tacky flux. That's all I use.
Thanks Steve, and you did a great job on the teardown video as I would have struggled on the black plastic bottom part :-) I have some Chip Quik that Chris from GadgetUK164 sent me and I also got some tacky flux from CPC Farnell so hopefully next time it may go a bit better for me :-)
How much its cost to repair that problem in canada u think ?
@@Mymatevince You're Awesome
TronicsFix the king of fix
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INCREDIBLE diagnosis and repair. I was skeptical during that DISASTER of a solder job with that chip, but you did it, and it WORKED!
"I soldered something and it WORKED!"
Prrrrretty much the way I feel after soldering literally anything.
What is this someting, people are talking about :)
@@elguytupanafull7936 my fingers
@@DarkoPetreski what?
just because of your ecstatic reaction to fixing the chip i had to immediately drop a like. it’s the best feeling in the world to work so hard on something you’re not confident or comfortable with and succeed. props and great work!
Something about my mate over here is amazing, this video gave me movie vibes, I was invested in the characters, the struggles, and the build-up. Only Vince can unintentionally tell a story over a broken Xbox.
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Never apologize for who you are. I have watched a few of your videos, and I just came to understand the way you say H was related to how you were raised. Bloody epic that you got it fixed!
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The sound of joy and excitement in your voice at the end made me all misty eyed.
Watched the whole thing through! Was just as excited you got it fixed! Love the videos! Hope to see more electronic repairs!
I got emotionally invested in this one! Well done mate. Dabbled in fixing Xbox’ and iPhones a lot over the year so I know how happy it feels to fix something that fidgety! Well done bud keep them coming!
nicely done! it's so good to watch you struggle a bit.. because everyone who is a noob at soldering will know the struggle! keep it going :)
That joy when the 'box fired up in 720p after the fix was really genuine! Great job, Vince!
1:22:55 finally something that works, you are learning, im proud of you
Except the soldering part... that heat gun "soldering" was painful...
Hi Vince, I've followed your videos for some time now and this is a great video to show your progression. SMD reworking is the epitome of board repair, well done sir, one internet to you.
Hi Vince - I just finished watching you tackle the Xbox and I do have to give you credit - you stayed with it. I know that feeling as I have repaired numerous items that are in your box. Great going. Watching that IC slide around made me take a walk around the block. I think now after watching you perform I will invest in a microscope and all the needed tools and give it a shot. This is due to watching you. Take care ole Buddy. Keep up the great work. Jack
I'm so proud of you! I love the part when you get super excited! Amazing work my friend.
You made my day ! I've been following your repairs for a while and was totally rooting for you this time too ! So happy you managed to change the chip ! CHAMPAGNE !
Nice Painful video but fun to watch Vince so glad you got it fixed was excited as you to see it working M8
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Our Xbox One
Who needs 4K when you can play in sweet 480p!
Or 720p.
i only use 720p because it is the highest resolution supported on my 2016 LG K8.
@@nathanmead140 what t he heck it is a 2016
Top resolution on the GameCube and Wii. Retro!
480p master race
OR WHAT ABOUT 8K? HOW DOES XBOX ONE X NOT SUPPORT THAT ALSO MY TV SUPPORTS 1080P lol
Dude, this video made me seriously cry of happiness. I felt through it how your hard work was worth it.
Congratulations!
I love Andrews videos, he goes fully in depth how to change any chip or components and gets some really dodgy repairs he has to redo.
Great video, hard to watch at times but at least you left that stuff in there. A couple of tips, when nudging a chip to see if the solder has melted, only use a tiny bit of pressure or you have the chance of ripping pads off. Imagine standing a penny on its end and pushing it over, very little force to see it move. Not so much flux next time, this will help stop it floating when the flux gets hot, also, like others have said, turn down the air to help stop it blowing around. I did notice the chip jump into place but then you went and nudged it for some reason, I was screaming at my screen haha. You vids are great, not many people leave the bad bits and mistakes. Keep up the great work Vince!
"I've soldered something and at long last it worked!"
got to love that feeling when hard work pays off :)
Really enjoyed this and I'm glad you left all the frustrating bits with the chip in the vid. It almost felt as if I was doing the repair myself.
Incredible patience as always. Well done Vince!
Monetary gain very little....Satisfaction and sense of achievement....Priceless
If there is one thing I've learnt from Vince is never give up......I would have given up quarter way through... so far have fixed a tablet, unable to fix kindle till i can get anoter for spares, have a ps4 with ylod to fix next... keep up the great work....
Your right I meant a ps3...You can pick them up for "10 to £20... I cant afford to try a ps4.
your reaction when you succeeded in the fix actually gave me a real buzz! keep up the good work!
Great job Vince . nice to see someone who is prepared to have a go even if sometimes they don't win WELL DONE MATE
Awesome!!!! Great job!!! I think you did a good job there! I would have been tempted to flow the underside of the new chip with solder and flux, but there was enough solder left on the board. You could also slow the air flow down on your hot air next time - that would help with it not moving around etc. But other than that, you pretty much nailed it!!!!! Great to see how chuffed you were at the end =D You are going from strength to strength!!!!
Thanks Chris, I was well happy with this one. On the actual board not the chip would you remove the old solder with solder braid and then apply fresh solder on the board or just leave what is there already. Next time I will use your Chip Quik flux and hopefully it will be a bit more sticky than the stuff I used. I tried it today on another video and the chip came off a treat :-)
You should be - totally great job!!! I've not tried to fix one of these yet - BGA chips are a nightmare generally, but you made it look easy lol. I've got some even smaller QFN chips to install on a PCB I created next week - I am not looking forward to that lol, but what you've done there is equally as difficult imo.
And re-using the existing solder - There's no right or wrong really. The chip had failed probably (rather than a bad connection), so using what was already there is fine. If you ever get a BGA chip where it needs reflowing - then its perhaps worth removing it and using leaded solder (after removing the lead free solder). But modern lead free solder is much better than it used to be tbh.
True what chris said less airflow and sticky flux helps a lot for beginners but believe it or not even the pros use it. It makes life easier. Well done and keep on going doing what you do and never give up. As the say practice makes perfect. 😎
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It was the video from Andrew Paul that made it so much easier for me, I think you will like him if you haven't had a chance to see his videos already. He makes it look like a piece of cake without it skating half way round the board. Thanks for the tips on the soldering. Those BGA chips must be so hard to get the solder to melt in the middle all the way through the chip!!!!
Thanks Vince for a fantastic video. I like others found the result at the end probably just about as rewarding as you did at the time, and the process of siting the new chip pretty clenching. So glad I've stayed a subscriber since those videos you made on making ethernet plugs, different types of sockets, etc. Wish you the same level of success in future fix-it projects.
Excellent, I'm glad you liked it and thanks for sticking around for so long, that was probably 3/4 years ago now. I appreciate the long term support :-)
Great job Vince! I've watched your channel for a while, and I really like the whole "Trying to FIX" thing. You are a great thinker, and you are even getting better at fixing things now. Keep up the good work!
Thank you very much :-)
Just started watching your channel. The confidence to swap a surface mount chip was insane! The excitement at the end when 1080p kicked in got the sub! Congrats bud 😊👏
Fantastic stuff! Working with SMD parts initially is an absolute pig of a learning curve. You'll find it much easier next time with some tacky flux and a lower airflow will help. There's a balance between heat transfer and not blowing your components about. :)
@My Mate VINCE Just for info the 40WQFN, 40VQFN id's are package types for the chip hence why if you look for data sheets you can find multiple sheets with those id's but different pin-out/functions. The 75DP159 (DP++ To HDMI Retimer). You probably are already aware of all this info anyway. Great job on the video! Looking up these sheets and learning that Xbox One S actually outputs in DisplayPort makes me wonder how hard a mod would be for those who want to connect via DisplayPort to a monitor.
Thanks Vince for another compelling Video I enjoy the fact you don't hide it when it goes wrong! It's the honesty that makes them interesting , keep it up!
My lord, i had a hard time watching that soldering part.. but the genuine relief and cheer when it actualy works made it a thumbs up! Well done man! you got a extra sub!
Simply Brilliant! I can feel your joy from here ;)
I did some digging, according to the Texas Instruments data sheets, those 2 chips are both CPUXV2 powered micro controllers, however they seem a bit different.
The 40-VQFN has 64KB program memory and runs at 16 MHz, the 40-WQFN runs at 25 MHz and has 16 KB of program memory.
The 40-VQFN uses FRAM as it's memory type, and the 40-WQFN uses FLASH as it's memory type.
So although they only differ by 1 letter, they seem to have a sizeable number of differences.
Well done. You are now the soldering master. I understand your frustration with trying and failing but the more you do the more you will succeed. Again well done.
It was so exhilarating to see that successful boot up! Nice job; this was a ton of fun to watch!
I was cringing when you where replacing that chip mate... but have to hand it to you, you did well and fair played to you!
Thats how literally everyone that has ever done work like that started out. As he tells people in his videos all the time its a learning experience for him and hes never really done anything like it unless its on one of his other videos. Tell me the first time you did it went smoothly and we will all call you a damn liar. XD
Hearing how happy he is from the success warms my heart ;-;
Excellent. I am rubbish at soldering and your soldering doesnt look rubbish to me. I am loving watching all of your fixes whether you manage the fix or not because it is just really interesting and Im learning like mad.
awsome job, there was a few min where my hands were sweating watching you and i wasnt even the one doing it. if it was me i would have needed a hard cocktail right about the time the chip was going all over. love the videos keep them comming.
Hey love your videos and I hope you will keep doing them.
Thanks, will do :-)
The feeling that you got when your code compiled without error.... HEAVEN!!! awesome job sir... well done.
Unbelievable. There's not many videos that have an emotional impact as this one does. I've had to look away a few times and I couldn't believe it actually worked. Congratulations on a successful fix.
Well done mate! I was really happy for you, when you got it working! Your perseverance definitely paid off.
Vince: 4k TV.
UA-cam Subtitles: for cake.
Me: OK. lol
Ah you darn kids with 4K video games ! Back in my days we used 480p!
Congratulations! I've been as nervous as you when you turned it on, I thought you might've broken it, but you came out on top lol I cheered with you at the end
4 years later and this vid helped to track down the issue. I have experience in soldering but not really in diagnosing electronics, and I'm about to replace the retimer chip on my pal's xbox after some research and this vid at the end.
well done mate. i remember the first time i fixed an xbox 360. I was so happy myself, i even had a victory muffin! you should to. Get yourself a victory muffin!
towards the end when he says "I've soldered something and its worked!" Anyone else flash back to top gear with clarkson going "I've mended it! I've mended something!"
I can hear Clarkson's voice just reading it. Made my day !
Dude cant believe it worked. You are really my inspiration for doing fixes on my own. So much fun watching you and trying it myself :)
I HATE replacing that type of chip and have messed up more than I fixed. Well done vince. That was such a satisfying video.
“Don’t copy me because I don’t know what I’m doing” this was too funny 😂
We all did a dance for you... From struggling to solder, to replacing surface mounted components. GOod JOb Mate.... Not exactly Louis Rossmann but yea! it worked.
Watching your genuine emotions play thru your video had me rooting for you and cheered along with you. Thank you for just being you.
And keep up the great work!
Congratulations on fixing your Xbox.
Had my fighters crossed the whole video you would be able to fix it and you did it!
Hope you enjoy your new toy and hope you have lots of successes like this.
I'm Clapping for you man... BRAVO.
1:22:05 worth the effort! priceless reaction! well done
Mate, I seriously doubted you when that chip was slipping all over the place. Proved me wrong! Well done! Great vid!
Well done sir! I was rooting for you the entire way!
Slightly higher heat, less air flow, no tape, gel type flux and longer air nozzle, this is all i would recommend you, awesome first try though and amazing that it worked, I know my first time repairing a logic board with components that small I went through a few components. :)
Reasons for tips.
#1 - More heat over less time is quicker and safer on the hardware than low heat over longer period, think about the frog in a pan of water
#2 - Less air flow to stop the chip moving as much and less chance to knock off other components
#3 - NO tape, never use tape just use more flux to cover everything in the area
#4 - Best Flux types are the sticky ones, lasts longer under the amount of heat your using and can also be used to protect other components
#5 - The Longer the air nozzle, the less restricted your view is over the area your'e working on
recommend Flux - Amtech NC-559-V2-TF Tacky Flux 30CC
Hey Vince, just stumbled over your channel and I love the content.
About the desoldering of chips, modern PCBs have a ton of copper inside and disperse a lot of heat you put in so preheating the whole board to about 80° Celsius in an old cheap pizza oven will make desoldering much easier. Also, adding leaded flux will help due to its lower melting point and you can wick it off afterwards anyways.
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Great video. What I liked is that you didn't claim to be an expert, you worked through an issue and I am glad your hard work paid off
I get so emotionally invested in repair work when my money (and pride) is on the line. Glad you do too!!
i enjoy how u use money but u dont put many ads in
*Finally a console fix video. I'm thinking doing something similar also* 👍
Go for it, i would watch.
Haha! every time a major repair is successful your "yes!! yes!!" of pure joy make my day.
I'm basically cheering...
(yes, i know is an ooooooold video.)
It's 3 am... I can't sleep, somehow I came across your video this and your PlayStation 4 video. I have gotton a deep satisfaction watching you succeed. congrats bro you give me hope, maybe one day I'll be as good as you.
You did the right thing. Those V and W are part of the footprint identifier. VQFN vs WQFN. There are differences but generally just in height and thermals. But I wouldn't risk it because I can't find what the difference in thermal performance is. :/ A quick check and buying the SN75DP159 would cost be between €15 and €25. So the price for just one is not a bargin, they made a good penny... but certainly not a rip-off.
Thanks for the info, height wouldn't matter in this instance but maybe thermals would???? I thought it would be best to get the one that is sold as Xbox One S when I am not clued up about these things :-)
That was just for the specific footprint. I don't like calling things a scam. There is conflicting information. But for that specific part the WQFN part would have been in a 40 pin package. Afaik the VQFN package for that specific part is 48pin. I've looked and a seller not specifying the pin count. Relying on a buyer not being aware of a such a subtle difference is in my eyes a scam.
+My Mate VINCE
TL;DR Basically the chip you were supposed to get was a 48 pin. The other chip was only a 40 pin.
So...If you got the wrong chip, it wouldn't of worked at all.
basicaly there are two versions of the chip, 48-VQFN and 40-WQFN, first is 48 pin 7x7mm, second is 40 pin 5x5mm.
@@Mymatevince if you look at the datasheet for stuff you can learn a lot :-) www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/sn75dp159.pdf
56:46 you said to hold it down at the end so it won't move you forgot to do that
Vince, I really do love your shows. I feel like I'm right beside you while you explore, and I get to learn new things about hardware that interests me too! For what it's worth, I'm not an X-box owner, nor have I ever been... I'm simply watching this one for the journey. Some of your videos have me interested in acquiring some new hardware, and even attempting to buy some broken devices just to try to bring them back to life. Thanks for what you do, sir, it's inspiring.
Also, on certain TVs I have, HDMI1 input is the ARC input... I have older consoles that don't agree with ARC out of the box. May be worth looking into...
My One X has recently went bsod, was about to put it into a repair shop till finding ur video. You have given hope and a little confidence in attempting the repair myself.
The inside of that looks remarkably similar to the motherboard of an Xbox 360 elite
Thats because they are the same its just the xbox one is faster and has more ram
xbox one and ps4 look really similar as well almost the same chips.
When replacing a chip like that, always order more than one.
I love it when you yelling yessss !!!!! Those are little moments of happiness that you can have only if you work very hard to fix something and it works ! Love you attitude and love your vid's man 🤘
Yes. I watch this entire video. I’m so happy for you. I learn more from you than anyone else. You’re my hero.
Hate when they say make on offer, you always pay full price.
if they aren't willing to take a lower price ignore them its not likely to sell mostly because of peoples spite
In Ireland everybody makes offers so if you want €50 for something you better put it up for €60😂
Then put it on a buy it now for 50 and stop wasting peoples time
Sounds like a personal opinion.
I was trying to buy some N scale covered grain hoppers for my model railroad. Some guy had a three pack listed for double retail, and triple the going ebay rates, but had a make an offer button enabled... I offered the ebay rates..., and got this response: *_"Don't whine about it be a man."_* Really!?!?!? XD I replied to the guy telling him that while his response was rather rude, I wasn't gonna spend 2x retail, and 3x the going rate on ebay, when it would _literally_ be cheaper for me to buy _any_ other hopper and paint and decal it myself. I then asked him what he was _realistically_ looking to make on them... His reply... *_"Then stop bothering me and use your time to kitbash some. Be smart"._*
It's so damn rude, but I couldn't stop laughing when he sent that, and reading it again, I'm laughing my ass off _again!_ XD
He sent me that reply in August... Those dumb overpriced hoppers are STILL up for sale! XD
Total stab in the dark with those identification serials for the 75DP159 chips...
If they are using any modicum of sense I would like to think that the it may break down like:
40V (40 Volts) QFN
40W (40 Watts) QFN
If I'm correct, then depending on resistance and input current, the Wattage version would struggle to produce 2V which would probably not be enough upscaling for HDMI power. Total stab in the dark, but it would explain the sheer price differences!
That is a good guess however the 40 refers to the number of pins. The other letters are usually a size/package physical description. V=0.5mm pin spacing, W=0.4mm pin spacing. If in doubt look in the datasheet.
That fight with the video chip was a real pain! But you managed to fix it and it worked, a total victory, in your more recent videos i can see you are much more experienced with swapping chips because you now make it look easy, great job as always
Excellent job on fixing! Watched throughout the whole video and learnt some stuff!👍
Loved the video, keep it up and again Great Job Vince!
I had a problem where my xbox one x wouldnt do 4k after a year of owning it lucky it had warranty on it so i got it fixed it had the same problems in this vid
Xbox One X hasn't even been out for a year.
next time try to reduce air flow to stop blowing the chip away when soldering it
Congrats, watched the video from start to finish it was an excellent tutorial for future tinkerers and techs.
Feel proud mate!
Mate well done i loved your reaction at the end when you changed to 1080p haha amazing video, such detailed fault finding process.
And yes when it's on sell the Xbox one's are usally on sell with everything for $180.
Your 8 bit guy without the 8 bit ness. Its more like 64 bit guy
HOLY COW TO THE THIRD POWER!
Stop being a Squared
Immensely satisfying to see you succeed and level up your skills. Good on you!
loving this videos!!! keep up the hard work Vince!