Repairing a EKIIV copy Makita cordless saw. You can see why copy tools destroy a lot of batteries.
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Cheaper lower end copy tools for work amd can get the job done.
But they normaly don't have a controler to monitor the battery amd tool.
So melted wires like this can happen very easily.
Theu are good if you are on a budget, but always be mindful of how much power they drawing from the batteries.
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hungry at 9mins 16s 😂
Bit of a rumble in the jungle of tools 😅
Thought it was my own stomach rattling Had to go back and listen again 😂
@@Adrian-l1l7e Likewise, I did exactly the same thing 🤣
@@Adrian-l1l7e Ha! Ha! So did I. I was listening with headphones on, which always makes internal sounds a bit louder. So I thought it was me.
Here in my country, copies cost a third of what the original costs. They also offer more accessories, which are a real temptation, but unless it is urgent, it is better to save up to buy an original. The video is very informative and useful.
Are the attachments compatible with genuine tools? Cheap accessories are always good
@@wearsjorge55 some copies are so good that the copy attachments work on original tools. I bought a copy plunge base for my original makita 18v laminate trimmer and it fits perfectly and seems to be quite good quality at less than a quarter of the price of the makita base.
I love the fact you still do a quality fix soldering joints and using bootlace ferals even tho it's a cheap tool.
9:16 guessing you were hungry but this point lol
Dean definitely needed a bite at that point.
Good Fix. Solder in a car fuse prevent battery dead and wire burning
Geniuses, they used the cables as fuses to save a few cents 😂
Similar to ELU drill i still have, my first proper cordless tool, one house build with that, wires melted , insta fixed it, just by separating those wires, there was plenty of room inside handle and only two wires.
Not counting battery operated "Dremel" , 18V tool with four 4, 5v battery, later used it with with transformer from kids racing track, toy is gone but transformer still work, after 40 years.
😆 😂 🤣
@@pete_lindI bought a cheap chinese 12v drill on amazon back in 2017 and its still working just fine even the batteries. The thing with brushed tools is that they are very reliable unless you abuse them. Just a few weeks ago Dean fixed a makita cordless saw just like this one, brushed motor too, the guy was cutting 4 sheets of plywood at once.
Fabuluous repair on a machine that perhaps didn't really deserve it! And it left your hands a much better tool than it was when it arrived. Many thanks for all your informative and enjoyable videos!
lol I actually saw that was running backwards. 😂I usually wouldn’t have. ⭐️ for me. lol cheers my friend.
Makita seem to be the most copied. I guess that's an honor 😉
Thanks for showing your wiring errors. Could have just edited it out.
A while back, I bought a cheapo Katsu cordless angle grinder, which takes Makita batteries, as I don't use a cordless grinder enough to justify paying Makita prices for one. After watching this video, I think I'll open it up and see if there's any kind of protection at all in the power circuit. My 5aH batteries cost me more than the tool did, so I'd hate for the cheapo grinder to kill one of my expensive batteries.
The battery cost significantly more than the saw. If it's going to bugger a battery it makes the economics of the fake products pretty sketchy.
Fake saw -> fake batteries
You get what you pay for with these machines too risky
The cost savings for the cheap wire vs decent ones is probably a couple cents per unit
Fair play..respect to you, leaving your reverse connections in the video
Epic stomach rumble at 9:12
Typical chinesium, they didn't even bother putting a car fuse in there. I'm diy and I avoid that crap like the plague.
I understand a tradesman who is new buying something like this to get started. I don't understand a tradesman who has been in the game for a while and depends on tools for a living continuing to run something like this. If you are cutting corners on your tools long term that badly, I don't trust you to do my job and not cut corners. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a tool snob. I own plenty of cheap brands and knockoff tools for tools that get used lightly a few times a year at most. Everything I rely on however, I "Invest" the money into proper tools built to stand up long term.
I've seen the other way around too, Makita machines getting melted due to replica batteries. Another one in the past was cheap blades for multitools, those had too much slack causing the heads to wear down significantly faster.
"It'll shrink on its own if it does overheat."
As they say, *everything* is a fuse if you use it wrong enough. 😀
Now u know why it was great, extra feature was hand warmer. It must be for Canadian market.
thank you for one more AWESOME lesson, Dean
Video cuts, "quick swap". That would be where I mess up 4 times trying to fix my mistake.
3:05, and this is why I only use 1.5 Ah batteries to test broken power tools.
This actually might not be the best idea. The 5AH batteries have a big MOSFET so they can just shut down until connected to a charger. For a 1.5, the only option is to burn the fuse, which is rather permanent.
Amazingly cheap original wire and no fusible protection I'd say. But then have to cut corners to make more profit... Thumbs Up!
I always think these copy Makita tools are a false economy; why risk expensive batteries? If you want cheap tools, just go with one of the budget battery platforms, then you won't be so bothered if you cook it.
Assuming it doesn't burn your house down of course :)
As a DIY enthusiast I generally avoid this kind of brand tools clones, they're cheaper than the originals but still more expensive than an equivalent specs hobby grade machine that doesn't pretend to be something else and offers exactly the same performance if not even better. Additionally, nowadays some hobby brands offer good warranty services and cheap spare parts/consumables for their machines, so as long as you don't need a heavy duty tool you get pretty good value out of them.
at least u noticed it going backwards before u tried to cut timber.........unlike me when i first swapped the brushplate on my dewalt dcs391
As cheap as these tools are and as good as they may be, They are ok for what they are like you said. As a pro myself, I'm guilty of buying cheap for some tools that i don't use that often tbh as i cant justify the cost at the time. But if it's something that i then need more often, Then i will buy the branded alternative to make sure that you get the quality for everyday use. But this saw, WoW i couldn't believe my eyes when you showed us that wire inside. it's deffo opened my eyes to just how cheap these things are as well as the potential to burst in to flame's not to mention ruin a battery. Thank's for the video Dean.
dam how big wires u need in a battery machine the machines so powerful now ^^
No controller whatsoever is shocking.
I have multiple cheap china specials that fit Makita batterys all of them have a controller and cut out on overload.
Isn't it possible that a few windings were shorted? Seemed pretty low rpm
It's kinda sad that those devices exist, considering that the control board would add only about 5$ to the price.
And about 2 times the price for the fancy brand name on the tool
Some folks run a battery tool as if it's run on mains which which causes this issue. Cheers
Would a fuse like in the Makita saws not be a good safety measure? To be on the safe side just put a 25A wich might blow a little early but safe the batteries at least.
Buy cheap buy twist
Prob never break again now 😂
You could add a braker, 30A ?
👍👍
Would it be prudent to hardwire a car fuse into the cirvuit?
It's already exist in some Makita tools and other better quality tool. Work pretty well apparently
Two things
1. How could the polarity switch been avoided by testing ?
2. Could a breaker be put in place that would flip off if too many amps were being drawn ?
3. Uhhh...I said 2 things...oops 😁
Waht about to put a car fuse in. Like the makita impact drivers?
Yea, I should have fitted one while I was at it. Next time
Good advice dean -It’s all about mechanical sympathy.! Doesn’t matter if it’s cheap or main brand , if you abuse a tool often it will eventually burn something, table saw, angle grinder, drill whatever..!! Big difference is the price of control boxes in name brand tools often makes them too expensive to repair - unless you just re- wire them like you have on this one.! just don’t let them struggle and keep that cooling fan spinning..😁💪🏻
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Is that an Orbis diagonal cutter?
I thought my hand basin was gurgling 😆
Nice save, and great tutelage as usual! Now please go grab yourself a snack to tie you over Dean, your belly is yelling at us! 😉
Are you sure it is EKIIV or is it EK 3 using roman numerals?
I thought about tis myself, but this would be EK III
@@tommeier2299 That is a fair point because it goes I II III IV V
Cheap & cheesy
ce approved? My ass ...
I bet the guy also uses clone batteries. I wouldn't use an official makita battery in that.
Nice one
The risk of cooking a genuine Mak18V battery to get a £30 saw to do a job is stupidity. Buy a tool that will do a proper job in the first place. Buy cheap, buy twice.
You talk as though everybody's an expert, hotshot, tradesman like yourself with a bagful of overpriced tools. Believe it or not, some people just enjoy a bit of DIY.
@@bayadere8308 I still run a Hitachi saw from 1992. It doesn't look overpriced now, and it wasn't then. Elu cordless drill/driver from 1996, had to spot weld some batteries back to life, but it still goes. I only buy what I need to get the job done, repeatedly.
Clearly, this saw is doing more than diy and is on a second repair at least. My original comment still stands.🙄
For about the last year, I've been trying to find the bent nose cutter / crimper pliers you use in a lot of your videos. If you read this or anyone does, can I get a model number?
Draper ergo
@davedunnelectrical3059 thank you. Looks like they might be discontinued, I did find a pair on eBay, but they look overused
That would keep your hand warm using it