60TP vs BZ, Who shall the winner be?

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  • @Dakillzor
    @Dakillzor  Рік тому +12

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    • @Elmalab
      @Elmalab Рік тому +1

      you forgot to pin this post. had to scroll all the way down :D

  • @alel1234
    @alel1234 Рік тому +153

    For a second I thought you were comparing the 60TP to the BZ 176 lol

    • @evilmac9623
      @evilmac9623 Рік тому +9

      So did I, I thought he was going to pull in a 7k bz 176 game at the end =)

    • @Warbeaver
      @Warbeaver Рік тому +2

      @@evilmac9623 not even 10k...

    • @BarsimonR
      @BarsimonR Рік тому

      Me too lol

    • @johnfarscape
      @johnfarscape Рік тому +13

      I have seen so many tier 10 games where the BZ-176 finished top on damage anyway 🤣, I got killed in 2 shots with my Leopard vs one, it was sniping me and I was actually missing or failing to pen in return, love German tank RNG 🤣 tier 8 tank doing 1000 damage in a hit while a tier 10 medium is bouncing off of it, great balance WG

    • @Shifther134
      @Shifther134 Рік тому +4

      He didnt do that video because we all know bz 176 > 60tp

  • @alexanderstoyanov7464
    @alexanderstoyanov7464 Рік тому +27

    BZ 75 vs 60 TP, and the winner is....BZ 176 ;)

  • @UnknownRex
    @UnknownRex Рік тому +2

    Appreciate these! I love the 60TP myself, good to get your expert input on it to help improve.

  • @ButchE30M3S14
    @ButchE30M3S14 Рік тому +10

    I play the 60tp often with standard ammo, best way to overmatch turret plates wich HEAT doesn't 🙂

    • @Dakillzor
      @Dakillzor  Рік тому +7

      And bounce everything else 😂

    • @ButchE30M3S14
      @ButchE30M3S14 Рік тому +1

      @@Dakillzor A wise mentor told me that's what intuition is for haha

    • @ButchE30M3S14
      @ButchE30M3S14 Рік тому +1

      @@Dakillzor I'm calling him 'Damentor' from now on 😀

  • @Sol-hd7pz
    @Sol-hd7pz Рік тому +20

    I love and hate the 60tp. If it works its really fun, when gun hates you it can really be tilting but for a super heavy its definitely one of the better if not best super heavy. BZ-75 gun is equally bad, less alpha and the armor is a lie. Everyone already just melts thru turret with heat or just ping the easy cupolas. Boosters dont matter to get you in position when youre team isnt there, you have no dpm, you cant hit shots and they enemy can pen you while you have 8 years aim time.

  • @jksoler
    @jksoler Рік тому +6

    Thanks for the masterclass. Keep them coming.

  • @photomorti
    @photomorti Рік тому +7

    I love these videos! The very detailed commentary is great i learn a lot from this

  • @rith2757
    @rith2757 11 місяців тому

    For what Daki was talking about at 7:00, Gold spam is a part of the game. Hate the game, not the player. For a player to have maximum effectiveness, you need the highest penetration to guarantee shots. Imagine carrying and you bounce random shots for no reason. A lot of the time, standard ammo literally can't pen some tanks AT ALL. So firing gold is how you get more damage which is how you win more and mark tanks faster. If you want to lose because you bounced shots, or if you want to take 2 years marking a tank, be my guest lmao.
    On side note, great vid daki. would like to see more marking vids (where u show 2-4 of ur best games while marking tanks).

  • @Flinkerkobold
    @Flinkerkobold Рік тому +6

    keep up the live food deliveries daki

  • @Impepega
    @Impepega Рік тому +4

    Thanks for the upload Daddy Daki

  • @lordz00
    @lordz00 Рік тому +2

    Can you please make some tutorial on how to play 60TP? I'm Polish, I got it as a first T10 tank and I wanted to use it in Onslaught, but every game I try to play with it, the gun trolls me like crazy and if I'm shooting standard I can't penetrate anything. Everyone says this tank is awesome, 2/10 games I've got 4k DMG and the rest are sometimes 0, because I miss/bounce all shots, so I definitely do something wrong. I'm currently wondering if bond eq would save it (rn I'm using upg. bounty), but it doesn't change the "driver", haha. I'd love to see some kind of masterclass and philosophy behind this tank.

  • @daleighcom1
    @daleighcom1 Рік тому +8

    The whole thing with the "stop using gold before you tell me how to play" is because gold ammunition is their ultimate excuse as to why they can't play as well as they want to.
    "Good players are only good because gold ammo, ergo if you use gold you're not a good player."
    Now the logical answer to this dilemma is just shoot gold and then you'll be a good player, but they won't do that (or at least admit to it) because if they do use gold they no longer have that excuse.
    So basically you end up with "Gold ammo is what makes players good but I will never use gold in case it refutes my own argument".
    TLDR; Excuses are easier than actual effort.

    • @kelvisshandei
      @kelvisshandei Рік тому

      U right but mailand another unicum made an f2p acc with no gold and he did wim against 279 with no gold ammo

    • @CaptainNoch
      @CaptainNoch Рік тому +1

      I think it is more correct to say that with "gold" ammo, one can be more flexible and hence, more effective in a battle. It is more of a convenience which, if you are already a good player without it, gives you that slight push to be the best version of yourself.
      I will admit, if I spam full gold, my average damage and everything goes up. The way I see it, gold ammo gives a person maybe that 1 or 2 extra shots of damage and in some tank, that can easily be 1k more damage.
      However, a bad player spamming full gold won't make them good. Sure, maybe they get those occasional 3k 4k games more frequently but, the question here is consistency. I've seen full gold spammers who get a 6k dmg game in their tier 8 premium but their average damage isn't even above 2k, often it is like 1.3k
      So, I would say it is a valid excuse to some degree. For a good player, sure, gold rounds are very advantageous. For a bad player, gold rounds won't guarantee much. It is the same with Chieftain and 279e. In the hands of good players, they know how to make best use of those tanks to their strengths. Meanwhile, random Andy would struggle to even do 2k damage on those tanks without being massacred by a good player playing IS7

  • @syllom
    @syllom Рік тому +1

    No opinion about it, but deffo waiting your say about the tier 9 BZ, loved it.

  • @h.d.tjayasanka3166
    @h.d.tjayasanka3166 Рік тому +1

    Hello Daki, Thanks for showing how to play the outside part of berlin I never went there because I didn't know which angles to worry about.

  • @vampirecount3880
    @vampirecount3880 Рік тому +7

    6:55
    Thats why i like NA server. People here dont give a fuck if youre using gold. In fact i always assume every time im shot at it will be by gold ammo.
    I noticed, for some reason, the EU playerbase is a bit more butthurt with the gold ammo usage and you see a lot of EU streamers having to justify to their audience why theyre using gold.

    • @theBhavMan
      @theBhavMan Рік тому

      true, although you will still ofc get ppl bitching about gold in team chat on NA, its just the way it is

    • @Sol-hd7pz
      @Sol-hd7pz Рік тому +2

      cause EU players are triggered by ppl who have jobs and can afford things.

    • @evilmac9623
      @evilmac9623 Рік тому +1

      There are still a lot of weekenders that bitch about gold spam on NA server though.

    • @Sol-hd7pz
      @Sol-hd7pz Рік тому

      @@evilmac9623 i havent seen anyone complain about gold spam in a long time , honestly. I play about 8-10 hours a week.

    • @vampirecount3880
      @vampirecount3880 Рік тому +2

      @@evilmac9623 not in my experience. I mean i shoot a lot of gold and i get one message by a butthurt per month at most. Most of the time i spend months without anyone crying.

  • @slst3phan
    @slst3phan Рік тому

    I really enjoy the format of this vid Daki, good tips all around.

  • @Galavis.
    @Galavis. Рік тому +11

    60tp is obviously better because qb does well in it.

  • @ikeasofa8449
    @ikeasofa8449 Рік тому

    I wish you could show us the Detailed report too as its just a click more. Newer people like me want to see how the profits are with shooting gold and landing nearly all shots. Would be appreciated :)

  • @richard743
    @richard743 Рік тому

    Awesome commentary explaining HOW you think is very helpful. Keep it up..🙂

  • @mikhailvershinin2292
    @mikhailvershinin2292 Рік тому +1

    The turret ring is easy pen on 60 tp Swiss cheese

  • @wotaddictglobal
    @wotaddictglobal Рік тому +1

    To be honest, I believe that the BZ would make an amazing RAMMER if you added the driver's skill AND the equipment which reduces damage ramming damage taken by 50+%. Just my two cents!

    • @anthony-wk7ux
      @anthony-wk7ux Рік тому +1

      umm ....like its running my crew from wazza and 5 full crew and controlled impact so yah i ram and ram ..just feel sorry for noobs

    • @wotaddictglobal
      @wotaddictglobal Рік тому

      @@anthony-wk7ux.
      Exactly - lol 😂

  • @thevocatiousunspeakables709

    The reason people talk about playing with standard is that certain plays aren't possible without premium rounds. The idea is that by showing how to do well with standard only, you can be more economical. However, this only really applies to t8 prems. Otherwise, it is a waste of time to go over

  • @mmk749
    @mmk749 Рік тому

    Thank you very much for another great vid!

  • @paulie_one_eye
    @paulie_one_eye Рік тому

    Yeah, I like it too but this gun... I'm very sorry but I'll have to live with 2 marks on the barrel. I'm not good enough and definitely not motivated enough to accept the pain of finishing it. GG Buddy!

  • @glowsinthedark235
    @glowsinthedark235 Рік тому +2

    I think the two tanks aren’t really that comparable, they have different playstyles and different strengths. On a different note, I three marked the T-34, for first ever 3 mark. You should mark it if you haven’t already.

  • @cichlidhybridmartel8798
    @cichlidhybridmartel8798 Рік тому

    perssonally i prefer the e100 i find its square shape turet and hull verry easy to angle it pens , aims and shoot faster and bether it can also side scrap WAY bether then a 60tp

  • @Shaloth
    @Shaloth Місяць тому

    As a US player the heavys always play in the lower part near the castle building... is this an EU thing? I don't think I have ever seen heavy come to this location to brawl it out. 10:10

  • @ziimbrotmg3981
    @ziimbrotmg3981 Місяць тому

    i get that you play with a lot of gold ammo and not to take off of ur skill but it makes the game extremly easy for players like you and mind u that not everyone has that many credits to spam it every battle, it would be super nice to see you play and make tanks work without it which shouldnt be that hard for you after all

  • @RodelIturalde
    @RodelIturalde Рік тому +3

    Finally a youtuber who, just like me, shoot good ammo instead of bad ammo. Because why would I shoot bad ammo when WG gave me opportunity to shoot good ammo.

    • @J4GGoon
      @J4GGoon Рік тому

      you would shoot bad ammo if you a) liked losing and b) were the type of chump who cries about something instead of easily fixing it

    • @andythoms8130
      @andythoms8130 Рік тому

      I just regard gold ammo being an answer to the dreadful rng trauma, especially on the 60tp.

  • @i2Ger
    @i2Ger Рік тому

    That reminded me: we have no E100 video D:

  • @tahitifan100
    @tahitifan100 Рік тому

    I'm watching this vid cuz Daki asked us too. Also cuz stream is over dakiHands

  • @pewpew6465
    @pewpew6465 Рік тому

    I have both and I like 60TP more

  • @jasonkaratzas941
    @jasonkaratzas941 Рік тому

    Daki, could you please make a video with obj.140?

  • @Guamurphy1952
    @Guamurphy1952 Рік тому

    ggs

  • @0BlitZKieG0
    @0BlitZKieG0 Рік тому +1

    And a winner is!!!!! Yes Bz 176!!!!!!

  • @Peizxcv
    @Peizxcv Рік тому

    So where is the BZ’s gameplay?

  • @butterapplepie1260
    @butterapplepie1260 Рік тому

    💘

  • @comeandgeterix8487
    @comeandgeterix8487 Рік тому

    What are you having for Dinner Daki. :):):)

  • @Griphos
    @Griphos Рік тому

    That people fuss about shooting "gold" in WoT demonstates the power of propaganda, made worse by the fact that so few people think things through or think for themselves. Keep teaching us how to play, Daki. It's very helpful, particularly the fact that you explain your reasons and your thinking.

  • @FalIenAngel
    @FalIenAngel Рік тому +1

    Imo 60tp is a complete trash, and its all because the gun. If it wasn't so bad maybe I'd enjoy it but so far all I do when playing it is scratching paint and complaining about hitting ground, bushes, moon, myself, instead of enemy. Maybe bond stabs would help but atm I've got better tanks to put bond equipment on

    • @Sol-hd7pz
      @Sol-hd7pz Рік тому +1

      The o ly thing I can say is try to brawl, fight close up. The tanks gun is meant to be 200m or less fighting

    • @FalIenAngel
      @FalIenAngel Рік тому

      @@Sol-hd7pz yeah man its not like I've been trying to snipe with it, just doesn't work for me. I much more enjoy e100 since the buffs of the line

  • @beniaminkudzia1646
    @beniaminkudzia1646 Рік тому

    Im watching you for long time... and I realise... Im not a SUBSCRIBER!! Im pressing button now...

  • @KeASiLeNT
    @KeASiLeNT Рік тому +1

    60tp is best I bully the bz with it's weak capolas

  • @deanwong6565
    @deanwong6565 Рік тому +4

    I really never understand why people still call it gold ammo and then think they are the superior player because they don"t want to shoot premium ammo.
    I always say, the right tools for the right job.
    Imagine going to surgery and the surgeon tells you only noobs use a scalpel and then progress to say "real surgeons use a cleaver".

    • @VitoldsTheDestroyer
      @VitoldsTheDestroyer Рік тому +2

      because it is premium ammo. you can afford it only if you pay for premium and boosts. sure you can play with gold ammo as free to pay if you grind your silver beforehand. f2p players cant afford it, so in essence its pay2win. wot is becoming more pay2win with every update. what will you say if devs add strictly gold ammo(as it was before) that have even more pen? maybe damage as well. dont try to justify cash grab.

    • @Sol-hd7pz
      @Sol-hd7pz Рік тому

      @@VitoldsTheDestroyer stop being a poor

    • @melaniejason3912
      @melaniejason3912 Рік тому

      @@VitoldsTheDestroyer I have a f2p account that always shoot gold. Battlepass, missions and drops give so much Premium Days it's crazy. And the reason it's still called Gold/Premium ammo: A few years ago WG changed how you pay for this. Every Premium shell used to be paid by Gold. Yea real money went through your barrel. Which is literal pay2win. I currently have 430 days of Premium and didn't buy Premium in 5 years. It's not that hard to accumulate

    • @VitoldsTheDestroyer
      @VitoldsTheDestroyer Рік тому +1

      funny replies. either you are pay2win bois or paid commenters. sure you can shoot gold sparringly and make profit, but you will never be able to make enough silver to grind new tanks and equip it without premium account and boosts, if you shoot gold ammo every game. even if its just a few shots and you miss some, you will not. i have been playing this game for years so stop spouting your outragous claims.

    • @Sol-hd7pz
      @Sol-hd7pz Рік тому

      @@VitoldsTheDestroyer stop being poor

  • @zeck8541
    @zeck8541 Рік тому +2

    People who complain about using gold ammo need to stfu. Gold ammo is the standard for competitive play. Live with it. Standard ammo is a luxury afforded to players who find themselves in situations where they can save money when it’s obvious that gold ammo isn’t needed.
    The people who complain about the use of gold ammo wouldn’t cry about using a match grade trigger for pistol competition, better tires for an F1 race, would they? 😂

    • @Sol-hd7pz
      @Sol-hd7pz Рік тому

      Poor people hate gold ammo

  • @dovydassimis8566
    @dovydassimis8566 Рік тому

    thought u were about bz 176

  • @ElrondMcBong950
    @ElrondMcBong950 Рік тому

    dear algorithm! this is a very controversial video. Everyone should check it out so please put it on everyones recommended. We see a dirty dirty gold spammer but he is so handsome

  • @TheSilent333
    @TheSilent333 Рік тому +1

    Sometimes it just makes sense to shoot gold. Sometimes it's just easier to shoot gold all the time so you don't even have to think about it. People need to worry about their own gameplay and #stopcrykid

  • @zwestlich6587
    @zwestlich6587 Рік тому +11

    talking about ammo usage, now a day even wg call them "special ammo", i do not get it why people still complain about gold spam lol, usually I simply reply whoever come to my garage and complain about my special ammo with"I'm rich, deal with it."

    • @lineca2114
      @lineca2114 Рік тому +3

      Gold ammo usage problems has never been about credits, it's about assuming your bad at the game if you use them (full gold load or only 5 is the same shit), it's about choosing the easy way cause you don't have enough skill to play without it, it's about unbalancing this game even more and then complain about it while you're a part of the reason of this unbalance, and sadly 99% of players use gold. It's funny that deciding to don't use gold like I do, end up having a way more enjoyable gameplay experience, much richer and self rewarding, idk how anyone can be proud of himself for getting an awesome games or 3 marking something while using gold, also without gold you're saving credits but that's the last argument, and a last thing, without gold I still end up getting way better stats than average and without using any bond equipment, food or making a new account to play for stats, this just show how gold means nothing about skill appart from assuming your lack of it. If you don't believe me, there's a french streamer (Zefeka) who don't use gold while getting over 61% winrate and 3,2k WN8. The gold vs non gold use arguments has been discussed for years, what i've said are the final results from it cause you seem to don't know them. In the end, I understand you're argument when I consider you as one of those person with an anime pfp, it's pointless.

    • @Kanthannic
      @Kanthannic Рік тому

      You sound pretty special 😂

    • @lineca2114
      @lineca2114 Рік тому +1

      @@Kanthannic You too Alvián Orosz

    • @zwestlich6587
      @zwestlich6587 Рік тому

      @@lineca2114 clearly u dont get my sarcasm when I said all these. but anyway like you said, this is pointless, since we understand the world in different ways, I dont mind people judging me badly since I watch anime and being a weeb, we both are some random guys in the internet and we will never meet again, so enjoy your speech buddy, I will continually farm my wn8 and spam more special ammo so people can call me a prick, so long.

    • @edouhoekie
      @edouhoekie Рік тому

      Special Projectile Equipment for Peacekeeping 😂😂

  • @zGJungle
    @zGJungle Рік тому

    Currently on 69 likes, not sure I want to ruin this perfection with another like.

  • @chris_hisss
    @chris_hisss Рік тому

    Big shout out from the 60tp QZZZ[WI5H] clan for capping when they had 3.9k and the FV4005 Cheer..[HUNMC] for sitting there even longer, with the winning amount of 1K damage for capping out the game! Lesser ups to the Borassque fLaMe_Of_sky with 485 damage who sat in cap until they had to share points with the 60tp and then realized he hadn't hardly done in damage in a fast tank and left cap to try to get more damage, because he actually has some sort of grey matter in his head.
    They were winning 12-7 when the Bor and FV started heading to cap, up by 4400 damage. The didn't hardly need to use their W button almost all game and guessed why start now? They hit the battle button to sit uncontested and entitled to win!
    Who cares if Daki has a personal mission to get damage? Not those guys! lol SMH

  • @sigmamalegrindset132
    @sigmamalegrindset132 Рік тому

    Winner is E100

  • @imado3363
    @imado3363 Рік тому +1

    DAKI is a Gold noob NOCAP skillissue not even 10k in 3 games, Old daki is bettter ,Reported for toxicity

  • @kingstoler
    @kingstoler Рік тому

    BZ all day

  • @MrSkillcap
    @MrSkillcap Рік тому

    People who complain about premium ammo are usually idiots. They're trying to use a "pay2win" argument where it doesn't apply. Most of the time you lose less credits penning a heat round instead of bouncing a normal round if you use it where you really need it. Not to mention the cost of having your tank more damaged/destroyed.

  • @yonyon8670
    @yonyon8670 Рік тому

    Bz 75

  • @evilmac9623
    @evilmac9623 Рік тому

    As someone that traded paying the bills for food, for paying the bills for sex... stick with the food.

  • @MildMax
    @MildMax Рік тому +1

    daki stop replying to people who complain about you shooting gold. they are just jealous bcs they cannot afford to play like that themselves

  • @VitoldsTheDestroyer
    @VitoldsTheDestroyer Рік тому +1

    its so sad that game is balanced around gold ammo.

  • @ОлегСмирнов-ж4ч
    @ОлегСмирнов-ж4ч 6 місяців тому

    Какой ты нудный.

  • @fraleb527
    @fraleb527 Рік тому

    complaining about gold is always an exuse for own failure. it's always the low avg player which do it

  • @iLikePizza829
    @iLikePizza829 Рік тому

    Day 1 begging for EBR video.
    Please stop trying to explain yourself about gold ammo to 800wn8 scrubs. They will not listen as they do not want to improve, all they need is an excuse why they suck so badly.

  • @ArkhonXIX
    @ArkhonXIX Рік тому

    The 60tp gun has done nothing but troll the fuck outta me. Hate it after the first 20 games. I’m. 3137 WN8 player that came back a few months ago from a five year break and I don’t like it. I’ll keep trying it but it’s not my favorite

    • @Dakillzor
      @Dakillzor  Рік тому +1

      It will always be random tbf