Looking at this from the perspective of katchu kumiuchi.... I think it is possible that the hand on the stomach is meant to grip the sarashi obi, or could also be reaching for the enemy's dagger. As for the right hand. It could be meaning to grab the maebashi if the enemy is wearing a kabuto and then yank that back as one sweeps. This is not meant to dismiss any other potential interpretations, just add to what is in the video. Often times, techniques meant for use in armor could be altered to be used when not in armor, and vice versa. Plus, I do not have access to the document,. I am basing this on what is shown in the video and my understanding of kumiuchi.
So I know the bujinkan is not real ninjutsu and you hate talking about them. But is the taijutsu that they teach effective as a martial art? Again I know taijutsu is not ninjutsu.
He has made a video on this, and he thinks what they teach can be pretty practical and useful despite their historical claims being false I think the video was "is bujinkan effective"
It really depends on who is teaching. I've seen some pretty crap techniques, but then I've seen some who really seem to make it work. I've trained in Yoshin Ryu, but some of the older Ryu techniques become more understandable when you add Samurai armour and weapons. Jujutsu has lots of grabs to prevent sword draws, they also have fewer chest punches due to armour. Even today, how effective is your punch against a hard ceramic plate armour? If you read Anthony's books, you'll understand that Ninjas were Samurai, just as the Special Forces does not operate outside of the US military. Samurai ninjas had regular combat skills then more training in spy skills.
Didn't in that same video he said they were making up things as they go and the effective stuff they were taking from other martial artist.@@gnos1s171
If you look at it from certain perspectives, it is. Someone else said that its a ninjutsu mindset in the combat that makes Bujinkan and its offshoots ninjutsu. They also used to teach "ninjutsu proper" but supposedly they did away with it, however there's published books on a couple of the ninjutsu schools taught in Bujinkan. One can also read the shoninki etc. You can even learn other skills they used and those resources are readily available. TheNinjaEveryday does survival stuff. Anyways, Back to my point. In my opinion Ninjutsu was and is a set of skills that were a means to an end and we know those end(s). I'll give you two examples, one referring to combat and one referring to technology. The former, I could use any of the holds or whatever we learn in To-Shin Do for the PURPOSE of being sneaky or to remove someone's subscription to Life Monthly (which we wouldn't except for the wildest and craziest scenarios) if I wanted to get into somewhere that's illegal for me to do so. That feeds into what the ninja did. The second example, I could find out someone's phone number, pretend to be them, and use that information for my gain or to ruin their life. As well as any other private information that's dangerous were it to be compromised. "Wait that's identity theft", yep, you're right. So are identity thieves technically ninja? You might say no because we're not in feudal Japan and no one is being employed by a regional authority figure to do such things, but the intent and method stays the same regardless. So, by definition, it is ninjutsu
I train and compete in amateur Muay Thai and BJJ, but I have previous training in Bujinkan, so this is my personal experience: The taijutsu in of itself is very sound and practical, the problem is that a lot of Bujinkan people don't have solid fundamentals in wrestling or judo, and because most Bujinkan dojo don't do sparring or much alive resistance training, their taijutsu looks sloppy. It was a very obvious difference in skill and quality when a Bujinkan teacher with previous wrestling or a judo black belt would show me Takagi Yoshin ryu or Shinden Fudo ryu techniques, they moved amazingly and you could tell that they very likely could pull the Bujinkan material off. In contrast, the ones with no previous wrestling, judo, or combat sport experience looked sloppier, and they would demonstrate in a way where it was obvious that what they were showing wasn't going to work.
It looks Judo, Hapkido and Aikido and every other Jujitsu based system. It even resembles Yoshin Ryu Jujitsu and its many spin offs.
Looking at this from the perspective of katchu kumiuchi.... I think it is possible that the hand on the stomach is meant to grip the sarashi obi, or could also be reaching for the enemy's dagger. As for the right hand. It could be meaning to grab the maebashi if the enemy is wearing a kabuto and then yank that back as one sweeps. This is not meant to dismiss any other potential interpretations, just add to what is in the video. Often times, techniques meant for use in armor could be altered to be used when not in armor, and vice versa. Plus, I do not have access to the document,. I am basing this on what is shown in the video and my understanding of kumiuchi.
That's very simular to a judo combo.. nice work guys
perhaps that reversing bit is aimed to trip other sideways. since leg is already there, so we are not pushing back but to side.
Thank you very much.💪
It's kind of hard to figure out the translations from old text & scrolls and transfer it to modern application
Nice brickwork...
This is a very efficient technique, simple old school jujutsu at its core
So I know the bujinkan is not real ninjutsu and you hate talking about them. But is the taijutsu that they teach effective as a martial art? Again I know taijutsu is not ninjutsu.
He has made a video on this, and he thinks what they teach can be pretty practical and useful despite their historical claims being false I think the video was "is bujinkan effective"
It really depends on who is teaching. I've seen some pretty crap techniques, but then I've seen some who really seem to make it work. I've trained in Yoshin Ryu, but some of the older Ryu techniques become more understandable when you add Samurai armour and weapons. Jujutsu has lots of grabs to prevent sword draws, they also have fewer chest punches due to armour. Even today, how effective is your punch against a hard ceramic plate armour? If you read Anthony's books, you'll understand that Ninjas were Samurai, just as the Special Forces does not operate outside of the US military. Samurai ninjas had regular combat skills then more training in spy skills.
Didn't in that same video he said they were making up things as they go and the effective stuff they were taking from other martial artist.@@gnos1s171
If you look at it from certain perspectives, it is. Someone else said that its a ninjutsu mindset in the combat that makes Bujinkan and its offshoots ninjutsu. They also used to teach "ninjutsu proper" but supposedly they did away with it, however there's published books on a couple of the ninjutsu schools taught in Bujinkan. One can also read the shoninki etc. You can even learn other skills they used and those resources are readily available. TheNinjaEveryday does survival stuff. Anyways, Back to my point. In my opinion Ninjutsu was and is a set of skills that were a means to an end and we know those end(s). I'll give you two examples, one referring to combat and one referring to technology. The former, I could use any of the holds or whatever we learn in To-Shin Do for the PURPOSE of being sneaky or to remove someone's subscription to Life Monthly (which we wouldn't except for the wildest and craziest scenarios) if I wanted to get into somewhere that's illegal for me to do so. That feeds into what the ninja did. The second example, I could find out someone's phone number, pretend to be them, and use that information for my gain or to ruin their life. As well as any other private information that's dangerous were it to be compromised. "Wait that's identity theft", yep, you're right. So are identity thieves technically ninja? You might say no because we're not in feudal Japan and no one is being employed by a regional authority figure to do such things, but the intent and method stays the same regardless. So, by definition, it is ninjutsu
I train and compete in amateur Muay Thai and BJJ, but I have previous training in Bujinkan, so this is my personal experience:
The taijutsu in of itself is very sound and practical, the problem is that a lot of Bujinkan people don't have solid fundamentals in wrestling or judo, and because most Bujinkan dojo don't do sparring or much alive resistance training, their taijutsu looks sloppy. It was a very obvious difference in skill and quality when a Bujinkan teacher with previous wrestling or a judo black belt would show me Takagi Yoshin ryu or Shinden Fudo ryu techniques, they moved amazingly and you could tell that they very likely could pull the Bujinkan material off. In contrast, the ones with no previous wrestling, judo, or combat sport experience looked sloppier, and they would demonstrate in a way where it was obvious that what they were showing wasn't going to work.
This sounds like an early form of Judo? Am I barking up the wrong tree!??🤷🏼♀️
It should, because judo came from different koryu jujutsu, and this is a koryu jujutsu
First hahaha 🤣!
Fore is hind, a bob or two.
Bro get mma or juitsu dummy Mr cummines it will help on teaching thumbup
It became shady some time ago but now you've outdone yourself. You're totally lost.
He's just a delusional clown.
He is just a delusional little clown.
ROFL
You deffo would be. On the floor I’d say.
@@AntonyCumminsYou don't know that.
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