@@prolastmedia6171 you really like her acting? No hates that’s a fr question. I personally can’t stand her acting no emotion in her face besides making her eyes big and doesn’t put the right emotion if any for the scene
@@HeartoftheWinterThe feelings mutual. Sol and, to a lesser extent, Qimir are some of the more interesting and engaging characters helped by good performances, Sol with empathetic, passionate demeanor as he searches for the truth and a way to help Mae even if she may not deserve it, and Qimir with his initial impression of being a simple, small time crook being contrasted by his intelligence and degree of involvement in the conspiracy suggesting he is more than he seems (which will likely end up with him being a Darksider, even THE Darksider). The other characters, while they have the potential to be interesting, don’t feel as developed in a satisfying way or have characterizations that make them as compelling as an openly emotional Jedi struggling against his bureaucratic and dogmatic colleagues to salvage a delicate institutional issue or a mysterious low life working with a cult of Darksiders in a plot against the Jedi.
Yeah, this definitely part one of an arc. I wish they had released the two (presumably) episodes together. The last scene was great. The rest was a little slow, and I don’t mind slow pacing generally.
I just wish the episodes were longer with more character and relationship development. Then they wouldn't create such a desire to have two episodes release at once.
@@GenerationTech The baddie created a massive dust cloud. The lightsaber "fighting" will be everyone separated in the cloud with flashes of lightsaber clashes from Sol's POV, signifying the death of the red shirt Jedi they brought along, before Sol catches the baddie's saber on his own. Then the scene will cut like they did every time the lightsabers first connected in Ahsoka. We'll see Mae and Osha or some other not-lightsaber nonsense before cutting back to Yord and Jeckie arriving to help Sol. Jeckie will get grabbed and have a knife held to her neck, from the trailer, so the baddie can get away. This isn't going to be an awesome lightsaber battle; they've dropped the ball too many times for me to be convinced otherwise.
Yeah. I actually thought it was good. It seems like a lot of folks just don't like serialized, character focused, stories... Or they just want to complain. It's a mystery, of course it is going to be a slow burn. My one real complaint so far is that they should have dropped the entire season instead of doing weekly episodes.
I may not agree with you all the time, but your positivity and points of view are very refreshing, especially after I struggle with each of these episodes.
Then why watch them? If you "struggle to watch" something it typically means you aren't really enjoying it and are effectively inflicting it on yourself so you can say you're participating. Why not try finding something you *actually* like instead of forcing yourself to watch something that's not interesting you
@nicholashodges201 simple there are parts I like and parts I don't like. Watching this channel and trying to keep an open mind has helped me. That and it's just a show , when I say struggle it's a pretty mild emotion, there's more important things in life to fret over.
I will watch it to the end as well. His analysis is very rose colored. In previous comment he said he is afraid of Disney not producing more star wars content if people are too negative.
Many seems to like Andor but I absolutely hated it because I found it boring to the point I slept while watching it. Ahsoka was OK although some of the scenes seems odd but whatever. The Acolyte seems to be universally savaged by most but so far I find it to be quite enjoyable.
@@JO-qn8gy Interesting how people have different tastes. My list would be the reverse of yours. Acolyte being very uninteresting and the worst, Andor exceptionally written and done, Ahsoka flawed but still enjoyable with great villains. Well maybe we agree on Ahsoka. In the end it's entertainment and if The Acolyte doing that for you that's what matters 👍
I really liked the on going Moth allegory around the dark side and being attracted to the light. The children playing with the moths, the literal moth monsters, the moth looking sith mask, etc.
I really liked from an acting standpoint the shot where the black figure slowly descends unfocussed behind Osha while she has a look of complete and utter terror on her face. That was really well acted and made. It had a really nice horror touch to it.
Yeah I kind feel like especially this show could’ve benefited from it. The overall mystery is still intriguing. There’s always bound to be week shows here and there
They get more engagement for their Parrot Analytics so they can tell everyone it's 'in demand' if they release it week to week. From a marketing standpoint, it's the right decision to release it weekly.
I think Yord's inconsistencies actually sort of fit him and why the consensus of "Yord is Yord..." makes sense. He has his swings between "I am Jedi!" And "I'm actually fairly personable. When I want to be..."
@@ericp1139 I'm not forcing anything? I'm giving my opinion on it, and in part have that opinion because I've known people who's attitudes shift like that.
@@Meravokas you’re trying to rationalize a character’s inconsistencies with in-universe justifications. Sometimes it’s just bad writing/direction. Maybe you prefer the result, but the reason for the inconsistency is still there.
@@ericp1139and you’re trying to rationalize a character who could pretty understandably be conflicted dealing with a situation as bad writing/directing. You CAN choose to enjoy things, you don’t HAVE to be a troll. And just a reminder, you are not always the smartest person around. It’s ok
Growing up in the 70s when episodic television was released on a weekly basis (if it wasn't preempted for some reason), not every episode was amazing but we were glad to get more of the shows we liked. A not so great episode was better than no episode. Personally I liked this episode.
The long conversation with Jacki and Osha, to me it reads as two people who don't want to say good bye, so they keep saying stuff to not leave. At least that is how the conversation felt to me. I know those of us in the media industry sometimes forget to take a step back from the technical presentation aspects, and look at it trying to imagine how someone untrained might view it (especially when we have an absence of other cues such as music, or an interruption which explains that odd choice). I think it is a problem of the long form content cut into tiny pieces... this conversation would not feel as stilted and odd if we had also seen the follow up conversations that will occur as the story progresses. At least that is my theory.
I grew up in the era where we had one episode a week & an entire summer hiatus. You are pretty good about recognizing that stories take time to develop. And I always chuckle when people write off an entire show before a whole first season has dropped. Star Trek: TNG had an abysmal first season & now we all view it as a classic.
Sure, but it's also OK for people to recognize bad trends early. And now we know that the Acolyte continued to have problems throughout the season, and the type of problems that should keep it from getting a second season. Because it's good to let a story develop, but the Acolyte lacked a coherent story to begin with.
I think Yord has feelings for Osha. He's acting weird because he knows that Jedi aren't supposed to have that kind of attachment. And/or he's trying to impress her by acting all serious. Yord's even putting on a deeper "I'm being serious" voice in a few scenes.
Yord likes Osha? Possibly. But Osha likes Jecki. That's the only reason I can see for those small-talk conversations between Osha and Jecki--to show Osha wanting to connect with Jecki in some way. Even if they're not romantic feelings, Osha doesn't appear to have any friends or any sort of meaningful relationships in her life. It's only natural to want to connect with someone.
The ending was genuinely creepy. The music, the fact our attention is drawn to an out focus figure slowly moving towards Osha, Osha's terrified sweaty face. It was really well done.
Agree that the writing, dialogue and tone were awkward and inconsistent. The end was creepy and I personally think that the sith is Vernestra, she has been low key hampering the investigation, she also manipulates a room full of jedi, including Ki Adi Mundi, into not discussing anything with the jedi council. Mundi was a by the book Jedi who would have reported to the Jedi council (someone in that room would have). So far they think they are dealing with a rogue jedi who is training some dark side force acolytes, not an actual sith. However after this episode, it should be clear to any survivors of this encounter that Smilo Ren is indeed a Sith. This series is not well written but it is not as bad as people are saying. This episode had beautiful cinematography and music. Last week was a flashback from one person's point of view, which is why it left us with more questions than answers. I'm interested to see how they tie it all up.
Vernestra may very well be the Sith Lord. But given the High Republic books/comics won't conclude until next spring, in which the teenage Vernestra is a major character, it probably won't be revealed this season.
In some of the first trailers, they included shots of the red saber wielder's hands. Hard to be certain in the lighting, but they looked brown in skin tone, definitely not green.
I agree, but I don't think that was her in the Darth "Teeth" helmet; I think that was Qimir. I think he's currently Vernestra's apprentice, but she will betray him, or he'll be killed by the Jedi. Vernestra wants the girls, Osha and Mai, because of their abilities or being dyads. The last episode should throw us all a treat and reveal that Darth Plagueis was influencing Vernestra, too.
@@GenerationTech oh no of course! And I so appreciate all you do. I’m always just surprised when I finish watching an episode of something like this and I’m like, “Man I’m pumped! Let’s see what Allen says!” and then you didn’t like it. But opinions are gonna opinion!
+1 for Andor being an incredibly special moment in star wars. I evangelize it every chance I get. It certainly feels like a labor of love and deserves every view it gets.
That's the problem. People like you talking about how it's a special moment and a labor of love. Like, that's cool, but the story makes no sense, the plot is nonexistent, characters do things for no reason, and every important thing is pushed to season 2. So I'm glad you like it. But I hope it doesn't get a second season
@@samuelwallace2782 it's already getting a second season, and those gripes are clearly a you problem. like just say you weren't able to follow the story. finnegan's wake is hard for me to parse but I don't try to invent problems it doesn't actually have.
The writing was terrible as usual with this show. To be clear we're not mad about any perceived 'wokeness'. Andor had a lesbian couple, multiple people of color, multiple strong female leads, and a heavy anti-fascist political message. We loved that show. The Acolyte breaks the lore and is written so bad that I'd fire all of the show runners and writers today if I was an exec at Disney.
I’m glad you’re reviewing the series based on the writing, directing and acting. First thumbnail I saw “reviewing” this episode was titled “ black girl magic and pronouns “ getting pretty tired of the rage baiting channels.
To be fair, I think it's really really strange that this kind of noble savage lesbian witch cult stereotype is what we got and i think it's entirely reasonable to point out just how offputting that is, and how it feels like they're deliberately riling up those folk on purpose i really wish someone like gentech would make a video talking about why we got a *second* coven of witches instead of fleshing out the dathomiri (because absent an explanation this feels really dumb to me and the only reason i can think is that Leslie wrote the show specifically to piss off Nerdrotic) i want gen tech to make a video talking about the difference between palpatine's "good is a point of view" and how it's *different* from leslie's "good is a point of view" and lastly, i want some kind of symbolic farewell to the old canon, the 1000 years of the sith being secret I totally believe that they can tell good stories in a world where the jedi know about the Sith all along, but it still feels like a pretty drastic change that destroys a LOT of pre-established lore, and that's kinda sad and i just want an acknowledgement of that i wiah gentech would talk about these things bur i think he thinks he can't, without being grouped together with disparu and the critical drinker and all them so instead, they're the only ones engaging with these issues/talking points/whatever and that sucks
@@JohnWittle "and lastly, i want some kind of symbolic farewell to the old canon, the 1000 years of the sith being secret" The show isn't over yet. Be patient and maybe you'll actually see how this fits in the canon. This is main reason why the fans complaining about this show "breaking canon" are completely insufferable.
@@JohnWittle this is just my theory but I think these witches are a dark side cult worshiping Abeloth. And it will be revealed that the Sith is Osha and Mae's mom.
@@DarksideGmss0513 Eitherway it's all terrible. I agree that they should have fleshed out the Dathomir sisterhood instead of this agenda-riddled garbage.
People saying they didn’t like the cliffhanger… correct me if I’m wrong but you’re not suppose to LIKE cliffhanger per se, it’s supposed to make you want to tune in for the next episode. Great ending. Most powerful force blast I’ve seen in live action. 👏
Being foolishly optimistic despite mountains of evidence says more about you than people voicing their displeasure. You’re the reason they keep making this garbage, cause you’ll watch regardless. Congrats it’s you! The useful idiot!
It's like a funeral for a friend. Commiseration with old pals, mourning, talking about the good times. But your friend went badly, we all saw it coming. You tried to warn them. Occasionally you are angry at your friend, for throwing it all away. Especially when their latest girlfriend Kathleen Kennedy shows up, high as always. She did this! ok ok I've lost the metaphor .
@@stevena.7022lol I think your metaphor is accurate but in that situation, if you start cursing your friend at their funeral, you'd still be the toxic one lol. Star Wars fanboys have no excuse lmao.
It stems from a sense of Entitlement combined with Not having a Life. They think they own Star Wars and can't conceived of doing anything else but watching the newest star wars thing, even if they are just going to inevitably cry and moan about it. It's actually kind of sick lol
I loved this episode!!! I liked how this episode showed an aspect of the Jedi order where information was deliberately kept from the High Council specifically for plausible deniability. It makes this God like order seem more bureaucratic, which seems more realistic to me.
Love your attitude, I agree that you should just go in and be open to the entertainment of it. You brought up a lot of good points about why this episode felt weaker than the others, hopefully the remaining ones tie things together.
Having Ridley Scott make a Star Wars thing would bring my two favorite sci-fi worlds together in a way and I would love that. People can say what they want, but Prometheus was awesome and showed me that he can do a lot more stuff that could be in Star Wars
The episode did have its LOOOONG walks through the woods didn't it? - I was so pissed :) (In a nice way) when the action started and BOOF - end of episode.
@JoseManley yeah I kind of feel like the next episode is going to be really make or break on this series for me. I enjoyed the first two but was underwhelmed by three and four, so here's hoping they at least deliver on the villain reveal next week in a satisfying way
@@lancefullmer9384 well its really hard to disappoint me - it takes a lot. I don't feel let down. There are a little slow moments that zone me out a bit but I am still tuned in. My concern is if they can wrap up these dangling stories (or mysteries) tightly.
really appreciative for your fresh take on the show, especially this episode...while I do disagree on some points your explanation about dialogue was profound because that's definitely the part of the show I have the hardest time with, lore breaking and character assassinations aside, much love bruh keep doing your thing
This episode to me furthers the theory that Mae/Osha are 1 person or more likely that Osha recreated her in the thread after she died. Soul tells her to come on the mission, she excitedly asks if she's back in the order, later when she's feeling positive about the mission, Mae suddenly pivots to want to turn herself in, mirroring Oshas positivity toward the Jedi
The fact that you kept an open mind on the first couple of episodes makes your successive reviews all the more authoritative. You are the best of all of the Star Wars reviewers. I love your videos!
This is one of the first Star Wars shows or Movies (except for Mando) where I was already familiar with the work of the creator - Leslie headland. I see a lot of the same DNA as in Russian Doll with this show.
Lucas has said his goal with Star Wars was to recreate the sci-fi serial vibe of shows like Flash Gordon he enjoyed as a kid. Flash Gordon was goofy and over the top like all sci-fi eventually. I think ppl are over thinking this series. Long running stories like Star Wars or Dr. Who can’t always be perfect. Hopefully you can get something that’s different or a fresh take on an existing thing, which was the goal of Star Wars in the first place.
Surprised at the dislike for this episode, I thought it was the strongest yet. Yeah there’s one convo that was a bit flat, but its a quiet scene. And Comparing a high intensity scene to a low one doesn’t make sense to me. But respect.
This episode felt like it started as twice as long and was edited down to fit a time limit. So it feels like it rushes through what should have taken a lot longer to tell.
The show isnt as bad as some are saying that it is...i watched it thinking that i was going to hate it but i actually like it. We are waiting for season 2
You and a couple other smaller SW UA-camrs are the only ones I still watch. There’s already enough negativity to deal with. This show to me has the prequel vibe, for better or for worse. I don’t mind it.
Time, Disney needs to give these episodes way more time. That is the problem. I think many of the issues would be solved if they just gave each episode more time, these need to be an hour each, not half-hours.
leslie have no idea on what she is doing. these eps are like all around half an hour and half this time it is fillers (slowly walking around). The pacing is awfull, you have some cool moments here and there, and the corean actor really shine here (probably why his name is SOL lmao), but then thats it. really hard to hook up to the plot, as it is VERY weak and inconsistant.
That's been one of my gripes from the get-go for this series even before it aired, When I heard 'half-hour runtime', I instantly went: "30 minutes avg per episode with this 'murder mystery' shtick marketing is pushing? During an era that the majority of Star Wars fans have disregarded as 'Disney slop' [because why do books about the 'High Republic' when the Old Republic was already there and clearly superior? That was the initial reaction to the High Republic star wars books. Can't blame say I blame them after the dumpster fire that was the SW: Aftermath trilogy] and are clearly expecting more 'Old republic', less 'prequel trilogy' background scenery? Yeah, that runtime is going to bite them in the ass." If the runtime per episode was longer the surrounding galaxy could be more fleshed out and feel bigger than it does in the Acolyte, and we might actually get a fight scene for the Wookie Jedi (you know, the species that can canonically rip people's arms off in close combat? Killed by lightsaber slash or not, the fact we didn't get to see him _fight_ before he was killed off is just plain insulting). I swear, the only good thing to come out of this show has been Lee Jung-Jae's consistent performance so far. Everything else is just so all over the place it's hard to take seriously.
@@angryox3102 when i saw the wookie got slashed i knew i was in for a treat even i could feel the fear as our sith buddy walked in i didnt expect this sith to be palpatine tier of powerful but in retrospect it was palpatines political power that seperated him from his peers
I really appreciate the way you phrase things throughout this video, your analysis is not as emotionally charged as others online but still shows care and passion for Star Wars. This review will hold up for a long time, thank you.
Episode felt slow, and the acting/dialogue was a bit clunky early on, but I was still on the edge of my seat, and the ending was masterfully done. Felt like a horror movie - one of the best entrances to a SW project I can remember. Hoping next week’s is peak.
Depends on how much influence they have on the writing and story. Some directors who are given more power can alter scenes and lines pretty significantly. But I doubt the directors for this were given much power, I bet there were probably execs breathing down their necks for most of it.
I have to compliment you on your fair review. I am a fan and would rather have something than some impossible perfection that seems to be the meat of so many UA-cam reviewers.
Even without the cliffhanger, I actually quite liked this episode. As soon as I knew the Jedi were going to Khofar, I knew the episode was building up to a big payoff next episode. The cliffhanger accentuates that, but all the character stuff and politics of the Jedi were quite enjoyable to me. And learning a bit more about Mae's goals and her tests and her relationship with her master (who I'm 100% sure is Qimir) was just good old fun. And honestly, this and the first two episodes make me question the validity of last episode's flashback. Not just because it's clearly from Osha's perspective, but because I think Osha's perspective might be completely false. In fact, I think she's the one who's actually going to be Qimir's apprentice as the series progresses. It's entirely possible I'm wrong. I'm not sure Disney would make that big of a twist, but it would be an amazing twist.
Yes this episode was actually fun!! Jungle adventure on an alien planet with a bunch of Jedi. I really enjoy the dynamic between Mae and Qimir so whe Mae betrays Qimir I was like wtf!! But also theyre definitely trying to make us think that Qimir is the Dark Master of Mae!? And I was genuinely surprised when Mae arrived and Kelnacca was already dead. And then yea that last scene was very cool
I commented to my wife that the minute they had all of these unnamed unseen before Jedi joining the trip, there was going to be a Jedi body count by the end of the arc. These are red shirts.
When we last see Qimir, he's hanging from a trap and Mae tells him her plan. When the Master appears he descends from above and I feel that may be more telling in visual storytelling than exposition and dialogue. It's definitely more symbolic. Just like the use of sunsets and Lucas's "rhyming" situational scenes. Almost as if he was taken by surprise and ungrounded but returns in disguise by finding his feet beneath him again.
Bro kimer literally said he went into the woods before this encounter, and when may gets into the ship-hut Wookie jedi no.3 is dead..... kimer was the one who killed him and he literally told may how he did it.
Unless! Nah, I gotta admit that really looks like where it’s headed. Idk who else the master could be that we’ve met so far. Venestra? Lol. I haven’t read any of the high republic content yet, but just from what I’ve gathered watching this channel, that feels like unnecessary character assassination.
@@tbd3058 She's the best candidate so far--but I don't think that was here with the Darth "Teeth" helmet. Maybe she's using Dark Force magic to control Qimir to play as the Sith Lord? Hmmm...
Episode 3 compelled me to go ahead and binge Ahsoka, Andor, Rogue One, The Mandalorian and then start the movies in chronological order. Episode 4 was okay for what it was, a bridge, and maybe it'll seem better after Ep. 5. And I gotta say, all those lightsabers popping on at the end was cool. Though I wondered what took them so long. Finally, Qimir sounded, heh heh, like Steve Buscemi.
Oof, I couldn't survive binging all that, especially Ahsoka and Mando S3. If you didn't watch Book of Boba Fett then you missed Mando S2.5. All the lightsabers igniting happened in the trailer, but if that's what you liked, then cool.
It's probably dangerous being a content creator, but I appreciate your "breaking the 4th wall" on honestly saying the review process does have inherent limitations.
I like how some commenters called me a bigot for episode three even though I stressed that the writing is the issue. Not the actors etc. And now you all are switching tune. I mean I’m still watching with y’all but this isn’t the greatest of Star Wars writing. Lately the animated series have more meaningful impacts than the live action. And it should be both ways. But when we praise content of this nature produced by Disney they count us as the fans who want this stuff when in actuality we don’t. We just want good stories not jumbled messes. Now I’m not saying rate the entire series as ass. Episode one and two started decent had potential for three and four. But three and four. Just contradicts and kills a lot of concepts. Destroyed lore in certain areas. And when you ask nicely. Then raise your voice even shout and scream and beg for them to just take their time and create a better brand for everyone not just one particular party. And we still gets this. How does one side of the fandom expect us to just be happy with what we view as a turd wrapped up in golden paper. And the crazy thing is we aren't asking for a lot. Others might. However we fans whom understand the greater picture or vision who have explored the EU just want good stuff even though its subjective. You fuck up the sequels, then you give us shit like Andor. i understand some like Andor but in actuality that show put people like me to sleep. And those ratings weren't great either. Could've been a series based on a better spy with more screen time or better pen time like Theron Shan set in the old republic when he was a double agent infiltrating both republic and sith empire. But then they give obi wan low budgeting and more towards projects like the Acolyte. When if they did Obi Wan right it would have made then more money and more. softened the tension. they ruin boba fett turn it into the mando show to save it. then we get ashoka just like obi wan. show has good moments but its not enough to uphold the entire series of said show in that regards. Then we are over saturated with star wars as well for the wrong reasonings. We have passer by fans leading these projects or people whom dont know the lore out of wilful ignorance etc. Im just tired of one of the most accepting fandoms turn on each other or unite because of hate over shit like this. Then it scares people off and we get called toxic and more.
@Pratapana accepting fandoms? Mate literally every star wars ever since empire strikes back has made a section of the fans really angry There's people who haven't enjoyed star wars for nearly two decades who still choose to complain about it online every day of their lives
Star wars really should take a more legends approach I think and give writers more control to tell their own story and not panic as much about how it all fits together. All the more modern series have connected together which is nice but they don't feel cohesive in themselves. For example Mando and Fett were too close together. Expand the universe and explore new things. Maybe do something more out there like exploring the Yuuzhan Vong
Leslye Headland, the showrunner for the Acolyte, took her show to Kathleen Kennedy, the head of Lucasfilm, who told her it was a good star wars show but to write a Leslye Headland show. How much more control over the story do you think she should have? Right now it's 100% I do agree that they should stop trying to tie everything together and expand their universe, but their inability to let legacy stories end is just one of the many problems with Disney Star Wars right now.
@@prolastmedia6171 hopefully the people at Disney work out at some point that if they want star wars to stay successful then they need to consider the original fans a bit more. Or maybe just pumping out as much mediocre at best content as possible until it stops making money is just the simpler and easier idea after all. I'm just going to keep hoping Andor season two is as amazing as the first. what I mean is that star wars shows shouldn't be a case of "not everything is for everyone" when it comes to fans of the originals (that aren't overly easy to appease with nostalgia and simple call-backs) as much. I wanted a series in this time period for ages but The Acolyte is basically unwatchable and dismantles the established world building of star wars.
@lordcrafty7578 The original fans? Wasn't there comments like that when the prequels came out? Star Wars is a show for 12 year Olds. Not everything is going to be for you. That's just a fact of life. I don't see how this show dismantles the world building or the lore of Star Wars
@@Atrail_Mckinley4786 "original fans" was maybe the wrong way of putting it I meant fans of the originals. There's plenty of fans of the originals who have grown up so it's not wrong to make star wars that isn't meant just for kids unless if all you want to do is sell toys. That's why Andor is so great to me, it's genuine Sci-Fi with mature themes and character building in the star wars setting. All Disney seems capable of doing is either nostalgia bait or creating inconsistencies in the worldbuilding. Making Anakin's birth less unique is a mistake in my opinion and although it makes sense that different cultures might view the force differently the way it's represented as "the thread" is strange and inconsistent with the worldbuilding up till now. If you have an argument for why it fits in then go ahead and convince me but I'm not sure Disney is really building on the foundations of the star wars universe. It seems much more to me that they're simply trying to create something new and novel each time. In my eyes considering the fans of the originals wouldn't be cheap nostalgia bait like screen time for old characters for the sake of it, it would instead be building upon the star wars universe that already exists instead of novelty. I never understood the hate for the prequels, I liked them personally. But there's also legitimate criticism for the prequels.
Alan, I think your video about Kimir being a sith lord is going to age well. He literally left Mae in the middle and was off screen for a long enough time to take his sith lord form and kill Kelnacca, and then come back. He allows himself to be ensnared by that trap and hanging helplessly, sensing Mae's betrayal, and then he easily escapes when they're all gone and reveals his sith lord self.
I find it amazing that people (even self proclaimed experts that are content creators) forget that Palpatine and Plagueis were not the only ones to have ever performed force alchemy, and that there are powerful “dark side” force users that are not sith.
@@Himmiefan They did an entire episode that was a Jedi hike in the woods and as soon as there was gonna be an action sequence, they ended it. Absolutely baffling.
@@DaringDan On top of that, just seemingly killing off the wookie jedi with no fight scene (yet), introducing a 'young' Ki-Adi-Mundi for no apparent reason (dude wasn't _that_ old by the prequel trilogy) and having Mae, who was all gung-ho about killing Jedi in episodes 1-2 to only to do a 180 personality-wise in episode 4... if they'd released it all at once people would've been able to digest the whole thing instead of being forced to wait another week after basically a filler episode of hiking around aimlessly (do they not have ship-based scanners in the High Republic?), only for Darth Molar/Smile-o-ren to pop up at the very tail end of the episode. Part of the problem here is Disney's still trying to milk Star Wars EU by releasing unabridged versions of the higher-quality EU novels following the end of the prequels, which has reinforced the idea that everything fans know the Star Wars galaxy had access to back in the EU days still exists. So when Disney is doing things things that don't make sense or could use something from the EU to solve the problem, people will notice, and will get (understandably) annoyed by it. Disney/Lucasfilm keeps sending mixed signals to Star Wars fans, and it is not helping.
But that ending and seeing that design I really liked it the way the mask almost looks like a monster smiling just kinda gives you chills wish they would have shown more of him in dark scenes
The way they did the audio on that scene is bizarre, it gives it this really intimate quality that makes Osha's teasing about Jecki missing her feel HARDCORE like flirting. And then Jecki touches her arm, which would be a totally normal expression of sympathy aside from the fact that she's a jedi. We very rarely see Jedi make physical contact with other Jedi in any kind of emotional way. So while I get the feeling that they were just trying to show Jecki being empathetic in these scenes, it comes across in a weirdly sensual way??? I also definitely didn't get the impression Jecki was of age until this episode. I would have guessed like 16 in the first couple, which gave those scenes all kinds of weird and uncomfy undertones
I had the biggest jump scare with a Star Wars moment since Kylo Ren killed Han Solo. I actually love the twists and the misdirections keep going. I read a tweet earlier about how streaming broke the audience’s brains with series binging, and I agree. I LIKE the weekly drop, even if it ends with a cliffhanger that makes me mad and apprehensive when it ends. Looking forward for episode 5. 😊
Personally, I really liked it. The zabrak witch killed the other witches by absorbing them and so becoming more powerful. the show demonstrated to us the power of one and two. absorbing the rest of the witches gave her the power of many. these witches force powers seem focused primarily on telekinetics. the show also reminded us that when something dies, it 'transforms into the force' - which strengthens the theory that whats-her-name, Koril, "ate" the other witches. So the dark figure at the end is not a "Sith" - just an aberration of the dark side, what Koril became. Koril also destroyed the generator at the fortress trying to cover what she'd done. rescued May with her elevated telekinetics, and went on the lam. Uses the voice modulator and always in helmet to hide her identity from Mae. So there, mystery solved ;-)
Ngl I'd be mad seeing them actually fly bc that's never been a thing. But levitating close to the ground, using the force to slow down ur fall. These are all basically the same thing and pretty common in star wars
Yord is fine. He has conflicting feelings for Orsha, so of course he's going to be inconsistent with his actions towards her. This episode was fine it's not terrible except the end, it's great.
Man I yelled "FOH" when the credits rolled. I definitely wanted to see more. My wife & kids were like "are you okay"? I cannot wait for the next episode. The dialogue is "off" at times, but this is a consistent issue with SW imo. 😂💯
Yeah, people act like the OT had some The Godfather level dialogue, when in reality he had "but I want to go to Tochi Station to pick up some power converters" 😅
Like bringing I'm characters who aren't even born yet, to see these events..when he can't have seen them lol because they don't know what they are writing. Because they don't know star wars. This is and has been utter shit from the very beginning. I can't understand wtf is going on in these comments right now.
In the moment I actually really liked the pacing of that medium shot scene with two girls. Nice little hallway moment. I see your point about A.S. delivery of those lines, agree might have been the director. Maybe one more take?
my guess so far is the "fixer" is an actual student of Tenebrous. His master wanted the knowledge the witches possessed so he manufactured... this so far. He is attracted to Mai, BUT you could hear his attitude change the second she made up her mind. This is still aligned with cannon as it explains how Plagues got the information for his experiments that created Anikin. Tenebrous knew you couldn't completely control the force with ought cost, so he tried to create a life equal to the midecloreans that he could control. Plagues was to prideful and thought he could control the force itself.
Alan, I have nothing but tremendous respect for you and your content, but I cannot understand why you’re being such an apologist for this horrible series. Ignore the culture war nonsense. This show is poorly written, poorly directed, poorly paced, relies on generic tropes and poorly developed characters that the audience simply doesn’t care about because the writers have done nothing to make us care about them and ultimately this series is just fucking boring. While you’re right that this is the weakest episode so far, they’ve all been weak and they’ve gotten progressively worse week-to-week. The physical sets were beautiful? As a buddy of mine in the industry said, “What did they do… raid the greens section of the property department?” Please stop blaming us for Disney-Lucasfilm’s continued terrible choices, please stop gaslighting those of us with legitimate criticisms of the show and please stop gatekeeping (“True fans of Star Wars?” Really?). This episode was like a poorly made fan film where they spend 90% of it walking in the woods because the script is so poor that they have nothing to fill it with. That’s not our fault.
You of all people have to see that this show is a complete slap in the face to all of the star wars we know, they made Anakin (THE ONLY ONE BORN OF THE FORCE, until these twins appeared out of no where) and The Chosen One Prophecy completely void and made Plaguis and Palpatine look like copy cats instead of them going thru the hard work they actually went thru to study and meditate by saying they got the idea to manipulate the force to create life from these witches, which is not the case at all, what really they were doin was trying to become immortal not create life per-say, if I'm not mistaken, and the force itself made Anakin to combat them and bring balance to the force, and what made Anakin special was just that, the only one born of the force because the force willed it but yet these unknown witches out of the blue could easily make not 1 but 2 born of the force what 2 of the most powerful sith lords couldn't do for years on years, and they do it seemingly with repercussions from the force, im sorry but no, this show is not star wars, it is tryin to undo everything we know about the lore and rules of the force and star wars itself, this show needs to stop
I was getting the feeling that the scenes between Osha and Jecki were meant to show Osha beginning to feel a connection to Jecki, maybe even the beginning of romantic desire (hence, the awkwardness). That could add some drama to the story since Jecki, being a Jedi, has been raised to keep herself detached from people on an individual level--to stick to doing her duty. The scenes don't serve any dramatic purpose really, and the information we get in them isn't all that important, so I can't imagine any other purpose for the scenes.
I feel like Yord is hung up on the past, he did like her and still does but he feels betrayed by her leaving, the line “2 years ago” is like saying you’ve been gone 2 years, or you would have known, he likes her but is resistant and treats her with a sheltered casing because he doesn’t want to open up again and have her leave. Yord is harder on her about the blaster because he cares but doesn’t always want to show it. Unfortunately it’s not as developed so it’s not very clear and is open to interpretation. It sort of reminds me of situation where a dad is a trainer and is harder on the son to dismiss ideas of favoritism so others won’t hold it against the son, or where a loved one may over compensate at work to dissuade favoritism, or where someone hurt tries to close off
lee jung-jae is single handedly carrying the entire show on his back.
I'm surprise the strain of it didn’t kill him
No, I like Amandala Steinberg a lot too. I also like Qimirs performance
He is the one standout performance in this show. So far the only thing I feel from watching The Acolyte is that he needs his own show about Sol.
@@HeartoftheWinter man a sol show would be sick
@@prolastmedia6171 you really like her acting? No hates that’s a fr question. I personally can’t stand her acting no emotion in her face besides making her eyes big and doesn’t put the right emotion if any for the scene
@@HeartoftheWinterThe feelings mutual. Sol and, to a lesser extent, Qimir are some of the more interesting and engaging characters helped by good performances, Sol with empathetic, passionate demeanor as he searches for the truth and a way to help Mae even if she may not deserve it, and Qimir with his initial impression of being a simple, small time crook being contrasted by his intelligence and degree of involvement in the conspiracy suggesting he is more than he seems (which will likely end up with him being a Darksider, even THE Darksider).
The other characters, while they have the potential to be interesting, don’t feel as developed in a satisfying way or have characterizations that make them as compelling as an openly emotional Jedi struggling against his bureaucratic and dogmatic colleagues to salvage a delicate institutional issue or a mysterious low life working with a cult of Darksiders in a plot against the Jedi.
When Sol told Osha he'd explain everything back on the ship... I knew he was as good as dead.
If Sol dies I am going to scream
I think they're taking us for a ride with that line. I think he won't kick the bucket seeing how he's the male lead.
Nah, Sith Lord Sol might die in Episode 8, but not before then. Unless he's killed by definitely-not-his-sith-apprentice Manny Jacinto.
My guess is that Mae will be going back with the survivors with Osha being taken by the mysterious Sith.
That annoyed me.
Yeah, this definitely part one of an arc. I wish they had released the two (presumably) episodes together. The last scene was great. The rest was a little slow, and I don’t mind slow pacing generally.
Yeah I’m pretty excited to see actually lightsaber fighting. Which they’ve saved for this moment
I just wish the episodes were longer with more character and relationship development. Then they wouldn't create such a desire to have two episodes release at once.
@@GenerationTech The baddie created a massive dust cloud. The lightsaber "fighting" will be everyone separated in the cloud with flashes of lightsaber clashes from Sol's POV, signifying the death of the red shirt Jedi they brought along, before Sol catches the baddie's saber on his own. Then the scene will cut like they did every time the lightsabers first connected in Ahsoka.
We'll see Mae and Osha or some other not-lightsaber nonsense before cutting back to Yord and Jeckie arriving to help Sol. Jeckie will get grabbed and have a knife held to her neck, from the trailer, so the baddie can get away.
This isn't going to be an awesome lightsaber battle; they've dropped the ball too many times for me to be convinced otherwise.
Yeah. I actually thought it was good. It seems like a lot of folks just don't like serialized, character focused, stories... Or they just want to complain.
It's a mystery, of course it is going to be a slow burn.
My one real complaint so far is that they should have dropped the entire season instead of doing weekly episodes.
@@GenerationTechI'm much more interested in how the plot actually unfold than how cool the fight scenes are.
I may not agree with you all the time, but your positivity and points of view are very refreshing, especially after I struggle with each of these episodes.
Then why watch them? If you "struggle to watch" something it typically means you aren't really enjoying it and are effectively inflicting it on yourself so you can say you're participating.
Why not try finding something you *actually* like instead of forcing yourself to watch something that's not interesting you
@nicholashodges201 simple there are parts I like and parts I don't like. Watching this channel and trying to keep an open mind has helped me. That and it's just a show , when I say struggle it's a pretty mild emotion, there's more important things in life to fret over.
I will watch it to the end as well. His analysis is very rose colored. In previous comment he said he is afraid of Disney not producing more star wars content if people are too negative.
Many seems to like Andor but I absolutely hated it because I found it boring to the point I slept while watching it. Ahsoka was OK although some of the scenes seems odd but whatever. The Acolyte seems to be universally savaged by most but so far I find it to be quite enjoyable.
@@JO-qn8gy Interesting how people have different tastes. My list would be the reverse of yours. Acolyte being very uninteresting and the worst, Andor exceptionally written and done, Ahsoka flawed but still enjoyable with great villains. Well maybe we agree on Ahsoka. In the end it's entertainment and if The Acolyte doing that for you that's what matters 👍
House of Dragon has female leads, gay characters, etc. It’s all a smoke screen. Just want good stories and good writing
I really liked the on going Moth allegory around the dark side and being attracted to the light. The children playing with the moths, the literal moth monsters, the moth looking sith mask, etc.
Wow! Good connection!
It’s been done better and it's way too heavily hinted at.
@@Lobsterwithinternetyeah, like Savathun in Destiny. A much better execution.
The sith mask reminded you of a moth?
I really liked from an acting standpoint the shot where the black figure slowly descends unfocussed behind Osha while she has a look of complete and utter terror on her face. That was really well acted and made. It had a really nice horror touch to it.
Yes dude when I was watching that I was like "Wait wtf is that???" Lmao that was a great moment
I am a 48 year old Star Wars fan and have watched about everything. Definitely one of the top scary moments I can remember.
@@leons.kennedy6710it made my stomach queasy, absolutely awesome 😊
That was exceedingly creepy!!!
They should have released it all at once
I agree. I could've binged this in 2 days. I was so upset when this episode just cut off...I was like "no, no, no, nooo" 😂
Yeah I kind feel like especially this show could’ve benefited from it. The overall mystery is still intriguing. There’s always bound to be week shows here and there
I... huh, maybe you are right?
Pretty sure with the staggered release on this series, it was just a trap to draw the critics in with bait
They get more engagement for their Parrot Analytics so they can tell everyone it's 'in demand' if they release it week to week. From a marketing standpoint, it's the right decision to release it weekly.
Yord is a by the book Jedi Knight. His portrayal has been pretty consistent. He would definitely ask for the blaster back regardless of their past.
I think Yord's inconsistencies actually sort of fit him and why the consensus of "Yord is Yord..." makes sense. He has his swings between "I am Jedi!" And "I'm actually fairly personable. When I want to be..."
Or just bad writing/direction. You don’t need to force an in-universe explanation for everything.
@@ericp1139 I'm not forcing anything? I'm giving my opinion on it, and in part have that opinion because I've known people who's attitudes shift like that.
@@warrencm And brief moments of power trip.
@@Meravokas you’re trying to rationalize a character’s inconsistencies with in-universe justifications. Sometimes it’s just bad writing/direction. Maybe you prefer the result, but the reason for the inconsistency is still there.
@@ericp1139and you’re trying to rationalize a character who could pretty understandably be conflicted dealing with a situation as bad writing/directing. You CAN choose to enjoy things, you don’t HAVE to be a troll. And just a reminder, you are not always the smartest person around. It’s ok
I'll be honest, the whole scene when the sith appears gave me goosebumps. I felt that scene was superbly done. I just didn't like the cliffhanger.
Yep! It got good there at the end! To keep up the momentum, they should have immediately followed it with a second episode.
Gotta agree with that annoying cliffhanger which takes us out of the moment immediately.
Yes it was an incredible scene. I’m done with them taking their time, the build up is fun.
I rolled my eyes. It means either everyone there is going to die, or that they're going to break cannon pretty explicitly.
Growing up in the 70s when episodic television was released on a weekly basis (if it wasn't preempted for some reason), not every episode was amazing but we were glad to get more of the shows we liked. A not so great episode was better than no episode. Personally I liked this episode.
I liked the episode. I like the series so far.
It felt a lot like those old syndicated shows to me too. I'm happy with the show.
But this is a miniseries. There’s no excuse for filler.
@@ericp1139 one person's filler is another's informative material.
@@5stardave oh? And what was informative this episode?
The long conversation with Jacki and Osha, to me it reads as two people who don't want to say good bye, so they keep saying stuff to not leave. At least that is how the conversation felt to me. I know those of us in the media industry sometimes forget to take a step back from the technical presentation aspects, and look at it trying to imagine how someone untrained might view it (especially when we have an absence of other cues such as music, or an interruption which explains that odd choice).
I think it is a problem of the long form content cut into tiny pieces... this conversation would not feel as stilted and odd if we had also seen the follow up conversations that will occur as the story progresses. At least that is my theory.
I grew up in the era where we had one episode a week & an entire summer hiatus. You are pretty good about recognizing that stories take time to develop. And I always chuckle when people write off an entire show before a whole first season has dropped. Star Trek: TNG had an abysmal first season & now we all view it as a classic.
Sure, but it's also OK for people to recognize bad trends early. And now we know that the Acolyte continued to have problems throughout the season, and the type of problems that should keep it from getting a second season.
Because it's good to let a story develop, but the Acolyte lacked a coherent story to begin with.
I think Yord has feelings for Osha. He's acting weird because he knows that Jedi aren't supposed to have that kind of attachment. And/or he's trying to impress her by acting all serious. Yord's even putting on a deeper "I'm being serious" voice in a few scenes.
Yord likes Osha? Possibly. But Osha likes Jecki. That's the only reason I can see for those small-talk conversations between Osha and Jecki--to show Osha wanting to connect with Jecki in some way. Even if they're not romantic feelings, Osha doesn't appear to have any friends or any sort of meaningful relationships in her life. It's only natural to want to connect with someone.
The ending was genuinely creepy. The music, the fact our attention is drawn to an out focus figure slowly moving towards Osha, Osha's terrified sweaty face. It was really well done.
The one thing that pissed me off was we were cheated out of a wookie jedi fight scene
Agree that the writing, dialogue and tone were awkward and inconsistent. The end was creepy and I personally think that the sith is Vernestra, she has been low key hampering the investigation, she also manipulates a room full of jedi, including Ki Adi Mundi, into not discussing anything with the jedi council. Mundi was a by the book Jedi who would have reported to the Jedi council (someone in that room would have). So far they think they are dealing with a rogue jedi who is training some dark side force acolytes, not an actual sith. However after this episode, it should be clear to any survivors of this encounter that Smilo Ren is indeed a Sith.
This series is not well written but it is not as bad as people are saying. This episode had beautiful cinematography and music. Last week was a flashback from one person's point of view, which is why it left us with more questions than answers. I'm interested to see how they tie it all up.
Vernestra may very well be the Sith Lord. But given the High Republic books/comics won't conclude until next spring, in which the teenage Vernestra is a major character, it probably won't be revealed this season.
In some of the first trailers, they included shots of the red saber wielder's hands. Hard to be certain in the lighting, but they looked brown in skin tone, definitely not green.
Well it could be what follows is what made Mundi into a strict by the book Jedi. Before he was willing to bend the rules a little.
I agree, but I don't think that was her in the Darth "Teeth" helmet; I think that was Qimir. I think he's currently Vernestra's apprentice, but she will betray him, or he'll be killed by the Jedi. Vernestra wants the girls, Osha and Mai, because of their abilities or being dyads. The last episode should throw us all a treat and reveal that Darth Plagueis was influencing Vernestra, too.
And she’s married to the show creator… this a safe bet
Oh man this was my favorite episode so far! Dang!
its cool man my opinion is just one of many, shouldn't take away from you enjoying it, the ending was really cool
@@GenerationTech oh no of course! And I so appreciate all you do. I’m always just surprised when I finish watching an episode of something like this and I’m like, “Man I’m pumped! Let’s see what Allen says!” and then you didn’t like it.
But opinions are gonna opinion!
The personal scenes felt stiff, but this episode felt the most like the prequels, albeit AoTC
True true
AOTC definitely sticks the landing, story-wise, in a way that the Acolyte just didn't
+1 for Andor being an incredibly special moment in star wars. I evangelize it every chance I get. It certainly feels like a labor of love and deserves every view it gets.
That's the problem. People like you talking about how it's a special moment and a labor of love. Like, that's cool, but the story makes no sense, the plot is nonexistent, characters do things for no reason, and every important thing is pushed to season 2.
So I'm glad you like it. But I hope it doesn't get a second season
@@samuelwallace2782 it's already getting a second season, and those gripes are clearly a you problem. like just say you weren't able to follow the story. finnegan's wake is hard for me to parse but I don't try to invent problems it doesn't actually have.
Credits rolling after that reveal was a nut punch!
The writing was terrible as usual with this show. To be clear we're not mad about any perceived 'wokeness'. Andor had a lesbian couple, multiple people of color, multiple strong female leads, and a heavy anti-fascist political message. We loved that show. The Acolyte breaks the lore and is written so bad that I'd fire all of the show runners and writers today if I was an exec at Disney.
Simply put there's not enough information to know if the lore is broken yet.
Even if there isn’t, then at best it’s a cheap bait and switch for which the outcome is already somewhat predictable.
How ???? U fools have failed to tell us how it breaks lore so we ignore ur moronic attempts to sound smart
Preach! I’m with you
"People of color"
What? Are you transparent?
I’m glad you’re reviewing the series based on the writing, directing and acting. First thumbnail I saw “reviewing” this episode was titled “ black girl magic and pronouns “ getting pretty tired of the rage baiting channels.
To be fair, I think it's really really strange that this kind of noble savage lesbian witch cult stereotype is what we got
and i think it's entirely reasonable to point out just how offputting that is, and how it feels like they're deliberately riling up those folk on purpose
i really wish someone like gentech would make a video talking about why we got a *second* coven of witches instead of fleshing out the dathomiri (because absent an explanation this feels really dumb to me and the only reason i can think is that Leslie wrote the show specifically to piss off Nerdrotic)
i want gen tech to make a video talking about the difference between palpatine's "good is a point of view" and how it's *different* from leslie's "good is a point of view"
and lastly, i want some kind of symbolic farewell to the old canon, the 1000 years of the sith being secret
I totally believe that they can tell good stories in a world where the jedi know about the Sith all along, but it still feels like a pretty drastic change that destroys a LOT of pre-established lore, and that's kinda sad and i just want an acknowledgement of that
i wiah gentech would talk about these things
bur i think he thinks he can't, without being grouped together with disparu and the critical drinker and all them
so instead, they're the only ones engaging with these issues/talking points/whatever
and that sucks
@@JohnWittle "and lastly, i want some kind of symbolic farewell to the old canon, the 1000 years of the sith being secret"
The show isn't over yet. Be patient and maybe you'll actually see how this fits in the canon. This is main reason why the fans complaining about this show "breaking canon" are completely insufferable.
@@JohnWittle this is just my theory but I think these witches are a dark side cult worshiping Abeloth. And it will be revealed that the Sith is Osha and Mae's mom.
@@DarksideGmss0513 Eitherway it's all terrible. I agree that they should have fleshed out the Dathomir sisterhood instead of this agenda-riddled garbage.
I don't even think it's rage "baiting" at this point. They're just flat out racist, sexist, and homophobic bigots.
People saying they didn’t like the cliffhanger… correct me if I’m wrong but you’re not suppose to LIKE cliffhanger per se, it’s supposed to make you want to tune in for the next episode. Great ending. Most powerful force blast I’ve seen in live action. 👏
I find it interesting, seeing if your theory is true. Being Angry and Hateful about a show you don't like is just a waste of time and energy.
Being foolishly optimistic despite mountains of evidence says more about you than people voicing their displeasure. You’re the reason they keep making this garbage, cause you’ll watch regardless. Congrats it’s you! The useful idiot!
It's like a funeral for a friend. Commiseration with old pals, mourning, talking about the good times. But your friend went badly, we all saw it coming. You tried to warn them. Occasionally you are angry at your friend, for throwing it all away. Especially when their latest girlfriend Kathleen Kennedy shows up, high as always. She did this! ok ok I've lost the metaphor .
@@stevena.7022lol I think your metaphor is accurate but in that situation, if you start cursing your friend at their funeral, you'd still be the toxic one lol. Star Wars fanboys have no excuse lmao.
It stems from a sense of Entitlement combined with Not having a Life. They think they own Star Wars and can't conceived of doing anything else but watching the newest star wars thing, even if they are just going to inevitably cry and moan about it. It's actually kind of sick lol
The whole hate campaign for the show even before it started was just a bit too...organized.
Glad to see Misfits getting a shout out, it was really good, and way before the current trend of alternative super heroes.
I loved this episode!!!
I liked how this episode showed an aspect of the Jedi order where information was deliberately kept from the High Council specifically for plausible deniability. It makes this God like order seem more bureaucratic, which seems more realistic to me.
When Sol was trying to convince Osha to go with them I was really distracted by the Tarlafar behind her 😅
It’s a damn shame when Arcane and Blue Eye Samurai, two animated shows, have more in depth humanity in their characters than live action Star Wars
Love your attitude, I agree that you should just go in and be open to the entertainment of it. You brought up a lot of good points about why this episode felt weaker than the others, hopefully the remaining ones tie things together.
Having Ridley Scott make a Star Wars thing would bring my two favorite sci-fi worlds together in a way and I would love that. People can say what they want, but Prometheus was awesome and showed me that he can do a lot more stuff that could be in Star Wars
I really like this episode it’s probably one of my favorite for this series ….
Here comes the hate mail .
Hey it’s one of my favorite episodes so far too!
Master Sol is a great Jedi I hope we see him in future projects!
I didnt hate it but it was definitely underwhelming
The episode did have its LOOOONG walks through the woods didn't it? - I was so pissed :) (In a nice way) when the action started and BOOF - end of episode.
@JoseManley yeah I kind of feel like the next episode is going to be really make or break on this series for me. I enjoyed the first two but was underwhelmed by three and four, so here's hoping they at least deliver on the villain reveal next week in a satisfying way
@@lancefullmer9384 well its really hard to disappoint me - it takes a lot. I don't feel let down. There are a little slow moments that zone me out a bit but I am still tuned in. My concern is if they can wrap up these dangling stories (or mysteries) tightly.
You are fast becoming my go to star wars reviewer/content creator. Too many of the other channels keep gripping about demographics.
really appreciative for your fresh take on the show, especially this episode...while I do disagree on some points your explanation about dialogue was profound because that's definitely the part of the show I have the hardest time with, lore breaking and character assassinations aside, much love bruh keep doing your thing
First time hearing one of your videos. Very level headed, intelligent and precise breakdown. You have another subscriber.
This episode to me furthers the theory that Mae/Osha are 1 person or more likely that Osha recreated her in the thread after she died. Soul tells her to come on the mission, she excitedly asks if she's back in the order, later when she's feeling positive about the mission, Mae suddenly pivots to want to turn herself in, mirroring Oshas positivity toward the Jedi
Appreciate the honest review.
This was the best one so far. What’s not to like? Sith mystery good cop better cop Jason the Dark Lord of the sith. I had a blast.
Another great review, Allen! I love you positive message that carries through in these break downs! Can't wait for episode 5!
The fact that you kept an open mind on the first couple of episodes makes your successive reviews all the more authoritative. You are the best of all of the Star Wars reviewers. I love your videos!
This is one of the first Star Wars shows or Movies (except for Mando) where I was already familiar with the work of the creator - Leslie headland. I see a lot of the same DNA as in Russian Doll with this show.
Lucas has said his goal with Star Wars was to recreate the sci-fi serial vibe of shows like Flash Gordon he enjoyed as a kid. Flash Gordon was goofy and over the top like all sci-fi eventually. I think ppl are over thinking this series. Long running stories like Star Wars or Dr. Who can’t always be perfect. Hopefully you can get something that’s different or a fresh take on an existing thing, which was the goal of Star Wars in the first place.
That really conformist, if it is hard to keep long lasting series in good quality then this only futher justifies the fandom's critical oversight.
that last scene i could feel the fear and its on a tv screen in a fictional universe
good work
I really liked this episode. They are projecting the reveal of who the master is but I find the other mysteries are working well!
Surprised at the dislike for this episode, I thought it was the strongest yet. Yeah there’s one convo that was a bit flat, but its a quiet scene. And Comparing a high intensity scene to a low one doesn’t make sense to me. But respect.
This episode felt like it started as twice as long and was edited down to fit a time limit. So it feels like it rushes through what should have taken a lot longer to tell.
The show isnt as bad as some are saying that it is...i watched it thinking that i was going to hate it but i actually like it. We are waiting for season 2
“I don’t come into Star Wars for high cinema” couldn’t say it better myself about how I feel.
You and a couple other smaller SW UA-camrs are the only ones I still watch. There’s already enough negativity to deal with. This show to me has the prequel vibe, for better or for worse. I don’t mind it.
Time, Disney needs to give these episodes way more time. That is the problem. I think many of the issues would be solved if they just gave each episode more time, these need to be an hour each, not half-hours.
leslie have no idea on what she is doing. these eps are like all around half an hour and half this time it is fillers (slowly walking around). The pacing is awfull, you have some cool moments here and there, and the corean actor really shine here (probably why his name is SOL lmao), but then thats it. really hard to hook up to the plot, as it is VERY weak and inconsistant.
@@edyz0r zero attention span.
That's been one of my gripes from the get-go for this series even before it aired, When I heard 'half-hour runtime', I instantly went: "30 minutes avg per episode with this 'murder mystery' shtick marketing is pushing? During an era that the majority of Star Wars fans have disregarded as 'Disney slop' [because why do books about the 'High Republic' when the Old Republic was already there and clearly superior? That was the initial reaction to the High Republic star wars books. Can't blame say I blame them after the dumpster fire that was the SW: Aftermath trilogy] and are clearly expecting more 'Old republic', less 'prequel trilogy' background scenery? Yeah, that runtime is going to bite them in the ass."
If the runtime per episode was longer the surrounding galaxy could be more fleshed out and feel bigger than it does in the Acolyte, and we might actually get a fight scene for the Wookie Jedi (you know, the species that can canonically rip people's arms off in close combat? Killed by lightsaber slash or not, the fact we didn't get to see him _fight_ before he was killed off is just plain insulting).
I swear, the only good thing to come out of this show has been Lee Jung-Jae's consistent performance so far. Everything else is just so all over the place it's hard to take seriously.
@@mondaysinsanity8193 what? who the f are you? do I know you? what a pathetic attack on my person lmao
@@edyz0r dude cant handle establishing shocks shocked at being called on lack of attention span. mf would end it all in an art museum.
The cliffhanger showed us exactly how Maul felt, when Obi Wan cut him in half.
i actually think the show isnt that bad
i thought the sith reveal was cool
The cinematography has been pretty weak throughout the show. But the shit of the Sith coming in stealthily was damn cool.
@@angryox3102 when i saw the wookie got slashed i knew i was in for a treat
even i could feel the fear as our sith buddy walked in
i didnt expect this sith to be palpatine tier of powerful but in retrospect it was palpatines political power that seperated him from his peers
@@bigcazza5260Or all those Jedi were just really weak which I mean... 😬 they do all look like Fodder lmao
The Sith flying down while unfocused was genuinely unsettling lmao I had to rewind, I was like "Wtf??"
@@prolastmedia6171 i wouldnt call the wookie canon fodder tho
I’m looking forward so much to next weeks episode.
I really appreciate the way you phrase things throughout this video, your analysis is not as emotionally charged as others online but still shows care and passion for Star Wars. This review will hold up for a long time, thank you.
Episode felt slow, and the acting/dialogue was a bit clunky early on, but I was still on the edge of my seat, and the ending was masterfully done. Felt like a horror movie - one of the best entrances to a SW project I can remember. Hoping next week’s is peak.
A director can’t save a bad script….
That's my complaint. I don't agree with Alan that director is at fault as much as the writing imo.
Depends on how much influence they have on the writing and story. Some directors who are given more power can alter scenes and lines pretty significantly. But I doubt the directors for this were given much power, I bet there were probably execs breathing down their necks for most of it.
@RX552VBK yeah theres no director that has the ability to fix the writing
I have to compliment you on your fair review. I am a fan and would rather have something than some impossible perfection that seems to be the meat of so many UA-cam reviewers.
Even without the cliffhanger, I actually quite liked this episode. As soon as I knew the Jedi were going to Khofar, I knew the episode was building up to a big payoff next episode. The cliffhanger accentuates that, but all the character stuff and politics of the Jedi were quite enjoyable to me. And learning a bit more about Mae's goals and her tests and her relationship with her master (who I'm 100% sure is Qimir) was just good old fun.
And honestly, this and the first two episodes make me question the validity of last episode's flashback. Not just because it's clearly from Osha's perspective, but because I think Osha's perspective might be completely false. In fact, I think she's the one who's actually going to be Qimir's apprentice as the series progresses.
It's entirely possible I'm wrong. I'm not sure Disney would make that big of a twist, but it would be an amazing twist.
Yes this episode was actually fun!! Jungle adventure on an alien planet with a bunch of Jedi. I really enjoy the dynamic between Mae and Qimir so whe Mae betrays Qimir I was like wtf!! But also theyre definitely trying to make us think that Qimir is the Dark Master of Mae!? And I was genuinely surprised when Mae arrived and Kelnacca was already dead. And then yea that last scene was very cool
I commented to my wife that the minute they had all of these unnamed unseen before Jedi joining the trip, there was going to be a Jedi body count by the end of the arc. These are red shirts.
When we last see Qimir, he's hanging from a trap and Mae tells him her plan. When the Master appears he descends from above and I feel that may be more telling in visual storytelling than exposition and dialogue. It's definitely more symbolic. Just like the use of sunsets and Lucas's "rhyming" situational scenes.
Almost as if he was taken by surprise and ungrounded but returns in disguise by finding his feet beneath him again.
Bro kimer literally said he went into the woods before this encounter, and when may gets into the ship-hut Wookie jedi no.3 is dead..... kimer was the one who killed him and he literally told may how he did it.
Unless! Nah, I gotta admit that really looks like where it’s headed. Idk who else the master could be that we’ve met so far. Venestra? Lol. I haven’t read any of the high republic content yet, but just from what I’ve gathered watching this channel, that feels like unnecessary character assassination.
It’s the mom with the horns (is she a Zabrakk?) who we didn’t see die in the flashback episode
@@awookieandagerman Maybe Indara isn't dead...
@@tbd3058 She's the best candidate so far--but I don't think that was here with the Darth "Teeth" helmet. Maybe she's using Dark Force magic to control Qimir to play as the Sith Lord? Hmmm...
@@tbd3058 Zabrak don't wear helmets. Sounds like a stupid limitation, but trust me that's the thought processes behind these shows
I’m liking the show so far. Ep 5 is supposed to be where everything changes. Can’t wait for next week
Episode 3 compelled me to go ahead and binge Ahsoka, Andor, Rogue One, The Mandalorian and then start the movies in chronological order. Episode 4 was okay for what it was, a bridge, and maybe it'll seem better after Ep. 5. And I gotta say, all those lightsabers popping on at the end was cool. Though I wondered what took them so long. Finally, Qimir sounded, heh heh, like Steve Buscemi.
Oof, I couldn't survive binging all that, especially Ahsoka and Mando S3. If you didn't watch Book of Boba Fett then you missed Mando S2.5.
All the lightsabers igniting happened in the trailer, but if that's what you liked, then cool.
It's probably dangerous being a content creator, but I appreciate your "breaking the 4th wall" on honestly saying the review process does have inherent limitations.
Nice gatekeeping there at the end, "true fan".
Writing 101, intro, rising action, climax and conclusion. This episode short changes the viewers, only 34 minutes long.
I like how some commenters called me a bigot for episode three even though I stressed that the writing is the issue. Not the actors etc. And now you all are switching tune. I mean I’m still watching with y’all but this isn’t the greatest of Star Wars writing. Lately the animated series have more meaningful impacts than the live action. And it should be both ways. But when we praise content of this nature produced by Disney they count us as the fans who want this stuff when in actuality we don’t. We just want good stories not jumbled messes. Now I’m not saying rate the entire series as ass. Episode one and two started decent had potential for three and four. But three and four. Just contradicts and kills a lot of concepts. Destroyed lore in certain areas. And when you ask nicely. Then raise your voice even shout and scream and beg for them to just take their time and create a better brand for everyone not just one particular party. And we still gets this. How does one side of the fandom expect us to just be happy with what we view as a turd wrapped up in golden paper. And the crazy thing is we aren't asking for a lot. Others might. However we fans whom
understand the greater picture or vision who have explored the EU just want good stuff even though its subjective. You fuck up the sequels, then you give us shit like Andor. i understand some like Andor but in actuality that show put people like me to sleep. And those ratings weren't great either. Could've been a series based on a better spy with more screen time or better pen time like Theron Shan set in the old republic when he was a double agent infiltrating both republic and sith empire. But then they give obi wan low budgeting and more towards projects like the Acolyte. When if they did Obi Wan right it would have made then more money and more. softened the tension. they ruin boba fett turn it into the mando show to save it. then we get ashoka just like obi wan. show has good moments but its not enough to uphold the entire series of said show in that regards. Then we are over saturated with star wars as well for the wrong reasonings. We have passer by fans leading these projects or people whom dont know the lore out of wilful ignorance etc. Im just tired of one of the most accepting fandoms turn on each other or unite because of hate over shit like this. Then it scares people off and we get called toxic and more.
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@@minabee369thank you!
@Pratapana accepting fandoms? Mate literally every star wars ever since empire strikes back has made a section of the fans really angry
There's people who haven't enjoyed star wars for nearly two decades who still choose to complain about it online every day of their lives
The best release schedule for this show is just not releaseing it at all
Star wars really should take a more legends approach I think and give writers more control to tell their own story and not panic as much about how it all fits together. All the more modern series have connected together which is nice but they don't feel cohesive in themselves. For example Mando and Fett were too close together. Expand the universe and explore new things. Maybe do something more out there like exploring the Yuuzhan Vong
That’s a great idea. I keep hoping we’ll see the YV someday…someday.
Leslye Headland, the showrunner for the Acolyte, took her show to Kathleen Kennedy, the head of Lucasfilm, who told her it was a good star wars show but to write a Leslye Headland show. How much more control over the story do you think she should have? Right now it's 100%
I do agree that they should stop trying to tie everything together and expand their universe, but their inability to let legacy stories end is just one of the many problems with Disney Star Wars right now.
There’s nothing I would love more than if they came out and said this show was Legends.
But it’s never gonna happen.
Correction: The episodes did not work well by themselves.
This is the second episode in a row that just didn't work for me
That's fine, not everything is for everyone. Don't force yourself to watch something that isn't for you
@@prolastmedia6171 hopefully the people at Disney work out at some point that if they want star wars to stay successful then they need to consider the original fans a bit more. Or maybe just pumping out as much mediocre at best content as possible until it stops making money is just the simpler and easier idea after all. I'm just going to keep hoping Andor season two is as amazing as the first.
what I mean is that star wars shows shouldn't be a case of "not everything is for everyone" when it comes to fans of the originals (that aren't overly easy to appease with nostalgia and simple call-backs) as much. I wanted a series in this time period for ages but The Acolyte is basically unwatchable and dismantles the established world building of star wars.
@lordcrafty7578 The original fans? Wasn't there comments like that when the prequels came out? Star Wars is a show for 12 year Olds. Not everything is going to be for you. That's just a fact of life. I don't see how this show dismantles the world building or the lore of Star Wars
@@lordcrafty7578 its not mediocre lol what. good actors high budget sets good action. it dismantles nothing lol
@@Atrail_Mckinley4786 "original fans" was maybe the wrong way of putting it I meant fans of the originals. There's plenty of fans of the originals who have grown up so it's not wrong to make star wars that isn't meant just for kids unless if all you want to do is sell toys. That's why Andor is so great to me, it's genuine Sci-Fi with mature themes and character building in the star wars setting.
All Disney seems capable of doing is either nostalgia bait or creating inconsistencies in the worldbuilding. Making Anakin's birth less unique is a mistake in my opinion and although it makes sense that different cultures might view the force differently the way it's represented as "the thread" is strange and inconsistent with the worldbuilding up till now. If you have an argument for why it fits in then go ahead and convince me but I'm not sure Disney is really building on the foundations of the star wars universe. It seems much more to me that they're simply trying to create something new and novel each time. In my eyes considering the fans of the originals wouldn't be cheap nostalgia bait like screen time for old characters for the sake of it, it would instead be building upon the star wars universe that already exists instead of novelty.
I never understood the hate for the prequels, I liked them personally. But there's also legitimate criticism for the prequels.
Alan, I think your video about Kimir being a sith lord is going to age well. He literally left Mae in the middle and was off screen for a long enough time to take his sith lord form and kill Kelnacca, and then come back. He allows himself to be ensnared by that trap and hanging helplessly, sensing Mae's betrayal, and then he easily escapes when they're all gone and reveals his sith lord self.
Sol is the soul of the show
I find it amazing that people (even self proclaimed experts that are content creators) forget that Palpatine and Plagueis were not the only ones to have ever performed force alchemy, and that there are powerful “dark side” force users that are not sith.
They decided to release what is ultimately a long movie over 7 weeks. Shoulda dropped it all at once.
Good point. By dragging it out, they're loosing momentum.
@@Himmiefan They did an entire episode that was a Jedi hike in the woods and as soon as there was gonna be an action sequence, they ended it.
Absolutely baffling.
@@DaringDan On top of that, just seemingly killing off the wookie jedi with no fight scene (yet), introducing a 'young' Ki-Adi-Mundi for no apparent reason (dude wasn't _that_ old by the prequel trilogy) and having Mae, who was all gung-ho about killing Jedi in episodes 1-2 to only to do a 180 personality-wise in episode 4... if they'd released it all at once people would've been able to digest the whole thing instead of being forced to wait another week after basically a filler episode of hiking around aimlessly (do they not have ship-based scanners in the High Republic?), only for Darth Molar/Smile-o-ren to pop up at the very tail end of the episode.
Part of the problem here is Disney's still trying to milk Star Wars EU by releasing unabridged versions of the higher-quality EU novels following the end of the prequels, which has reinforced the idea that everything fans know the Star Wars galaxy had access to back in the EU days still exists. So when Disney is doing things things that don't make sense or could use something from the EU to solve the problem, people will notice, and will get (understandably) annoyed by it. Disney/Lucasfilm keeps sending mixed signals to Star Wars fans, and it is not helping.
I disagree, it allows us to discuss the show. There are peaks and valleys in every show.
But that ending and seeing that design I really liked it the way the mask almost looks like a monster smiling just kinda gives you chills wish they would have shown more of him in dark scenes
I thought Osha might be trying to tempt Jecki
Is Jecki over 18?? If not then it's not tempting, it's grooming
@@prolastmedia6171My guess is that Jecki's an older Padawan, similar to Obi-Wan in TPM or Anakin in AOTC. 18 or 19, almost ready to become a Knight.
The way they did the audio on that scene is bizarre, it gives it this really intimate quality that makes Osha's teasing about Jecki missing her feel HARDCORE like flirting. And then Jecki touches her arm, which would be a totally normal expression of sympathy aside from the fact that she's a jedi.
We very rarely see Jedi make physical contact with other Jedi in any kind of emotional way. So while I get the feeling that they were just trying to show Jecki being empathetic in these scenes, it comes across in a weirdly sensual way???
I also definitely didn't get the impression Jecki was of age until this episode. I would have guessed like 16 in the first couple, which gave those scenes all kinds of weird and uncomfy undertones
@@prolastmedia6171 Jecki's actress has said she's 18
I had the biggest jump scare with a Star Wars moment since Kylo Ren killed Han Solo. I actually love the twists and the misdirections keep going. I read a tweet earlier about how streaming broke the audience’s brains with series binging, and I agree. I LIKE the weekly drop, even if it ends with a cliffhanger that makes me mad and apprehensive when it ends. Looking forward for episode 5. 😊
this video felt longer than the episode to me
Thanks for your balanced and level-headed reviews. Like how you higlight the positives of Star Wars stories and shows while critiquing the negatives.
Personally, I really liked it. The zabrak witch killed the other witches by absorbing them and so becoming more powerful. the show demonstrated to us the power of one and two. absorbing the rest of the witches gave her the power of many. these witches force powers seem focused primarily on telekinetics. the show also reminded us that when something dies, it 'transforms into the force' - which strengthens the theory that whats-her-name, Koril, "ate" the other witches. So the dark figure at the end is not a "Sith" - just an aberration of the dark side, what Koril became. Koril also destroyed the generator at the fortress trying to cover what she'd done. rescued May with her elevated telekinetics, and went on the lam. Uses the voice modulator and always in helmet to hide her identity from Mae. So there, mystery solved ;-)
Cought me off guard when he went into super fast review mode
It was awesome. It practically caught what we saw on the clone wars 2006 count Dooku flying Using the force I hope we see a Jedi fly as well
2003 but yea that was my first thought
@@cloudmaster182 oh ok thanks
Ngl I'd be mad seeing them actually fly bc that's never been a thing. But levitating close to the ground, using the force to slow down ur fall. These are all basically the same thing and pretty common in star wars
They fly now?
@@stevena.7022 I hope we see a Jedi fly as well
watching that bridge scene again, there is a big chance the sisters are switched and the evil one was saved and the good one died.
I just felt jarred by an artificial cliffhanger. Less than 30 minutes..
Yord is fine. He has conflicting feelings for Orsha, so of course he's going to be inconsistent with his actions towards her. This episode was fine it's not terrible except the end, it's great.
I like the story. There are lots of shortcomings for various reasons, but im still looking forward to seeing where it goes.
Exactly my feelings, right now I have the show at 6/10 which isn't good but definitely not bad. I'd say this is slightly above average television
This show literally spits on the lore
Man I yelled "FOH" when the credits rolled. I definitely wanted to see more. My wife & kids were like "are you okay"? I cannot wait for the next episode. The dialogue is "off" at times, but this is a consistent issue with SW imo.
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Yeah, people act like the OT had some The Godfather level dialogue, when in reality he had "but I want to go to Tochi Station to pick up some power converters" 😅
@@matheusfernandes2102 Or Admiral Obvious Ackbar noting that it is a trap! While being shot at in said trap!
@@matheusfernandes2102atleast they mention the Tashi station now days they would just say the station and expect us too fill in the blanks
Vader : I am your father.
Luke : No! I am your father!
Vader: I'm your father!
Luke: I want spice cream!
Like bringing I'm characters who aren't even born yet, to see these events..when he can't have seen them lol because they don't know what they are writing. Because they don't know star wars. This is and has been utter shit from the very beginning. I can't understand wtf is going on in these comments right now.
In the moment I actually really liked the pacing of that medium shot scene with two girls. Nice little hallway moment. I see your point about A.S. delivery of those lines, agree might have been the director. Maybe one more take?
Won’t lie, as someone who still wants to see how this story ends, the pacing has been awful
Pacing in ep 1 and 2 was terrible but 3 and 4 have been solid in terms of pacing
my guess so far is the "fixer" is an actual student of Tenebrous. His master wanted the knowledge the witches possessed so he manufactured... this so far. He is attracted to Mai, BUT you could hear his attitude change the second she made up her mind. This is still aligned with cannon as it explains how Plagues got the information for his experiments that created Anikin. Tenebrous knew you couldn't completely control the force with ought cost, so he tried to create a life equal to the midecloreans that he could control. Plagues was to prideful and thought he could control the force itself.
Alan, I have nothing but tremendous respect for you and your content, but I cannot understand why you’re being such an apologist for this horrible series.
Ignore the culture war nonsense.
This show is poorly written, poorly directed, poorly paced, relies on generic tropes and poorly developed characters that the audience simply doesn’t care about because the writers have done nothing to make us care about them and ultimately this series is just fucking boring.
While you’re right that this is the weakest episode so far, they’ve all been weak and they’ve gotten progressively worse week-to-week.
The physical sets were beautiful? As a buddy of mine in the industry said, “What did they do… raid the greens section of the property department?”
Please stop blaming us for Disney-Lucasfilm’s continued terrible choices, please stop gaslighting those of us with legitimate criticisms of the show and please stop gatekeeping (“True fans of Star Wars?” Really?).
This episode was like a poorly made fan film where they spend 90% of it walking in the woods because the script is so poor that they have nothing to fill it with.
That’s not our fault.
Well put
As knowledgeable and insightful as you are I dont know how you can defend this. It was written with half eaten crayons
You of all people have to see that this show is a complete slap in the face to all of the star wars we know, they made Anakin (THE ONLY ONE BORN OF THE FORCE, until these twins appeared out of no where) and The Chosen One Prophecy completely void and made Plaguis and Palpatine look like copy cats instead of them going thru the hard work they actually went thru to study and meditate by saying they got the idea to manipulate the force to create life from these witches, which is not the case at all, what really they were doin was trying to become immortal not create life per-say, if I'm not mistaken, and the force itself made Anakin to combat them and bring balance to the force, and what made Anakin special was just that, the only one born of the force because the force willed it but yet these unknown witches out of the blue could easily make not 1 but 2 born of the force what 2 of the most powerful sith lords couldn't do for years on years, and they do it seemingly with repercussions from the force, im sorry but no, this show is not star wars, it is tryin to undo everything we know about the lore and rules of the force and star wars itself, this show needs to stop
I was getting the feeling that the scenes between Osha and Jecki were meant to show Osha beginning to feel a connection to Jecki, maybe even the beginning of romantic desire (hence, the awkwardness). That could add some drama to the story since Jecki, being a Jedi, has been raised to keep herself detached from people on an individual level--to stick to doing her duty. The scenes don't serve any dramatic purpose really, and the information we get in them isn't all that important, so I can't imagine any other purpose for the scenes.
I'm tapping out until Andor 2.
I feel like Yord is hung up on the past, he did like her and still does but he feels betrayed by her leaving, the line “2 years ago” is like saying you’ve been gone 2 years, or you would have known, he likes her but is resistant and treats her with a sheltered casing because he doesn’t want to open up again and have her leave. Yord is harder on her about the blaster because he cares but doesn’t always want to show it. Unfortunately it’s not as developed so it’s not very clear and is open to interpretation. It sort of reminds me of situation where a dad is a trainer and is harder on the son to dismiss ideas of favoritism so others won’t hold it against the son, or where a loved one may over compensate at work to dissuade favoritism, or where someone hurt tries to close off