when the trombonist forgets to trill

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  • Ever been in a Stravinsky Firebird Suite rehearsal and the trombonist forgets to trill? Have you even heard a trombone trill for as long as Stravinsky makes them? Please fill me in on your hot takes in the comment section.
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  • @youtubeviolatedme7123
    @youtubeviolatedme7123 2 роки тому +979

    Of course who else but Stravinsky to push an instrument to its technical limits

    • @me_is_hobo
      @me_is_hobo 2 роки тому +60

      Yeah if stravinsky was still alive, bassoons would sound 3 octaves higher

    • @cristhiancamarena9534
      @cristhiancamarena9534 2 роки тому +6

      @@me_is_hobo lmao dont they have like 5 octaves already

    • @nategwright
      @nategwright 2 роки тому +20

      @@cristhiancamarena9534 “Alright, bassoons, make sure you play the piccolo cues at measure 36”

    • @ashleythorpe7933
      @ashleythorpe7933 2 роки тому +1

      Richard Strauss

    • @isoniazidsive
      @isoniazidsive 2 роки тому

      Eat your f*king cereal

  • @trombonedavid1
    @trombonedavid1 2 роки тому +294

    The “5, 6, and” countoff

    • @JFroTheMusician
      @JFroTheMusician 2 роки тому +28

      It is in 7/4.

    • @matthewcline8580
      @matthewcline8580 2 роки тому +14

      whiplash reference???!

    • @JFroTheMusician
      @JFroTheMusician 2 роки тому +9

      @@matthewcline8580 No the tune is in 7/4 at spots.

    • @matthewcline8580
      @matthewcline8580 2 роки тому +13

      @@JFroTheMusician yeah, thats correct, but the piece "whiplash" is also in 7/4, and Terrence Fletcher's countoff for that is also “5, 6, and”. I don't think it's a coincidence Timo said it that way, especially if you put them side by side.

    • @alantruong537
      @alantruong537 2 роки тому

      @@matthewcline8580 plus the way he shaped his hands

  • @magicmonkey7075
    @magicmonkey7075 2 роки тому +1043

    I didn’t even know trombones could trill :0 -me, an ignorant clarinetist

    • @dylandinh2303
      @dylandinh2303 2 роки тому +7

      Same dude

    • @zzUchihaxx
      @zzUchihaxx 2 роки тому +58

      On trombone you can trill by two different ways. On a trigger trombone, you can use the valve (or trigger) to get a trill effect. I used this technique when playing Lebedev's Concerto in One Movement. Then you have the lip trill (what he's doing in the video). Significantly harder as it requires endurance, speed, flexibility, and precision on partials (when we play different notes using the same fingering) of the trombone.

    • @Snookbone
      @Snookbone 2 роки тому +5

      @@zzUchihaxx you absolutely should not use the valve to trill.

    • @jackcallahan1848
      @jackcallahan1848 2 роки тому +9

      Clarinets is best

    • @jessecohen4517
      @jessecohen4517 2 роки тому +7

      @@Snookbone Said who?

  • @theafellacomposer
    @theafellacomposer 2 роки тому +1101

    I play both Trombone and French Horn, and I still don't know how to lip trill hahaha I tend to just wiggle the F trigger or the valves and that's it hahaha

    • @adgalaxy234_6
      @adgalaxy234_6 2 роки тому +77

      That’s how it’s done, man. Fake it till you make it. Plus the horn mouthpiece is microscopic so a lip trill sucks

    • @Goriaas
      @Goriaas 2 роки тому +12

      @@adgalaxy234_6 still bigger than a trumpet mouthpiece and some people lip trill on those

    • @skrillzfn4183
      @skrillzfn4183 2 роки тому +13

      I play trumpet and french horn, it sucks to trill on both

    • @charliepeterson8397
      @charliepeterson8397 2 роки тому +1

      on you horn try just doing a trill on 1 and 2. it is a g to an a trill!

    • @theafellacomposer
      @theafellacomposer 2 роки тому

      @@charliepeterson8397 Valve trills is all I could do (for now hahaha I know that the more I practice, I can get there eventually... hopefully) but yeah I still suck at my lip slurs hence that needs practice (although for some reason, I could lip slurs better on my Trombone than on my horn even though horn is my main lmao what)

  • @Therealrealbenji
    @Therealrealbenji 2 роки тому +63

    They gave it to the bones cuz the poor first horn's heart is still racing after the solo and any additional stress might just break them.

  • @TheTrueAltoClef
    @TheTrueAltoClef 2 роки тому +48

    My favorite part is how the entire orchestra fits in this room, and everyone except a single trombone player is invisible

  • @scarcat2469
    @scarcat2469 2 роки тому +159

    Me on my French horn when I can’t find the right shelf

  • @thatonekansasguy
    @thatonekansasguy 2 роки тому +157

    that is mad impressive dude, been playing for 11 years and trilling is the one thing I've never been able to get down

    • @fghsgh
      @fghsgh 2 роки тому +2

      hey I've also been playing for 11 years! and trilling is also the one thing I've never been able to get down!

    • @okaymarcel9273
      @okaymarcel9273 2 роки тому +1

      Remington exercises. But do it like your glissing by buzzing. Free buzzing can help strengthen your lips to do this. Been playing 10 years and I can trill. You can do it too, just some good quality practice!

    • @okaymarcel9273
      @okaymarcel9273 2 роки тому +1

      Oh, Brad Edwards lip slurs. It's also a fantastic book for learning flexibility and trills.

    • @brassholio
      @brassholio 2 роки тому

      Tell me you don't practice flexibility without telling me you don't practice flexibility...

    • @thatonekansasguy
      @thatonekansasguy 2 роки тому

      @@brassholio no

  • @josephjeon804
    @josephjeon804 2 роки тому +22

    The joke is that trombones "cant trill" cuz they just got a slide. Yet he did it

  • @me_is_hobo
    @me_is_hobo 2 роки тому +179

    Yo!! Stravinsky's Firebird! I absolutely adore it!

    • @gswiggy
      @gswiggy 2 роки тому +1

      its amazing. my marching band's omea show is centered around it

    • @nate8998
      @nate8998 2 роки тому

      @@gswiggy ours was too!

  • @literallythebestgamereverfr
    @literallythebestgamereverfr 2 роки тому +23

    wait we can trill?

  • @esqueletog9906
    @esqueletog9906 2 роки тому +65

    Now that’s impressive 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @aidancardona8592
    @aidancardona8592 2 роки тому +49

    Literally had my lesson in that room in BSOM last week😂

  • @gbrogo7139
    @gbrogo7139 2 роки тому +2

    This guy was a counselor at my summer camp a few years back

  • @me_is_hobo
    @me_is_hobo 2 роки тому +18

    He conducted Octet, he practiced Pulcinella, and now the Firebird. I wanna hear the rite of spring next.

  • @tubalnavarro8962
    @tubalnavarro8962 2 роки тому +10

    My mouth hurts just listening to this. Nice.

  • @ErykaSoleil
    @ErykaSoleil 2 роки тому +4

    I was a trumpet player, but Oh. My. GOD. Mad respect to your ability, that is amazing on any brass instrument but I suspect it's even harder on trombone.

    • @march.7561
      @march.7561 Рік тому

      I can't speak for trombone, but trying to do it on horn is pretty difficult too. To be honest, I think it's difficult on any brass instrument because it takes such a high level of control.

  • @march.7561
    @march.7561 Рік тому +1

    I love that he conducts like Fletcher from Whiplash.

  • @jmk1975
    @jmk1975 2 роки тому +3

    I'm a clarinetist and I did not even know trombones can trill until now. Thanks.

  • @a_random_person_lol_bruh
    @a_random_person_lol_bruh 2 роки тому +15

    0:31 me when I don’t oil so often my slide so it stick just like that :3

  • @kotetsu131
    @kotetsu131 2 роки тому +2

    oh damn they have to do that on firebird? trumpets never have to pull that shit. that's ridiculous. props.

  • @sethremsburg8429
    @sethremsburg8429 2 роки тому +6

    Sick trills bro

  • @jacks8344
    @jacks8344 2 роки тому +1

    0:16 I like the whiplash reference

  • @galaxyfrogs736
    @galaxyfrogs736 2 роки тому +2

    We are playing this in my marching band show!! :D Stravinsky very cool

  • @etherealbirdy
    @etherealbirdy 2 роки тому +2

    Yuhhhh we played that for our marching band show two years ago, although our arrangement didn't have the trombone trills, it would have been kinda cool of they kept that in

    • @sameman6884
      @sameman6884 2 роки тому

      trombone trills are extremely hard to get down consistently

  • @xxvideogamesrulexx6277
    @xxvideogamesrulexx6277 2 роки тому +2

    Hilarious for trombone to think it’s part of the melody

  • @mrwyatt6006
    @mrwyatt6006 2 роки тому +19

    I can do that on a French horn. It’s never intentional though

  • @calegophoto
    @calegophoto 2 роки тому +4

    he really forgor💀

  • @iguanavitamins7377
    @iguanavitamins7377 2 роки тому +2

    Doing a field show with this song so hearing this caught me off guard

  • @turtledude4493
    @turtledude4493 2 роки тому +2

    OMG WE PLAYED THIS FOR MY MARCHING BAND

  • @modernmusicofthedarkages296
    @modernmusicofthedarkages296 2 роки тому +2

    Yess!! Stravinsky’s: The firebird 🔥🔥

  • @Ultracrepidarianist
    @Ultracrepidarianist 2 роки тому +1

    That's fucking beautiful!

  • @MrTBoneMalone
    @MrTBoneMalone 2 роки тому +1

    Wow, really really nice playing. Also, funny! :-)

  • @birb1134
    @birb1134 2 роки тому

    That’s the song for part 4 of my marching show this year

  • @MatthewMcDermott6
    @MatthewMcDermott6 2 роки тому +5

    As Tim’s former section leader, I can tell you he NEVER forgot to trill. Ever

  • @charliecampbell6851
    @charliecampbell6851 2 роки тому

    Very clean

  • @keemez
    @keemez Рік тому

    good tone, dude

  • @usamachaudhri7993
    @usamachaudhri7993 2 роки тому

    I have yet to master the art of trill

  • @Speck25
    @Speck25 Рік тому

    5,6, and gave me whiplash vibes

  • @ryanrogers3877
    @ryanrogers3877 2 роки тому +2

    Zoltan Kiss vibes

    • @trombonetimo
      @trombonetimo  2 роки тому +1

      Mnozil Brass definitely an inspiration for me in general

  • @NickBurnham1
    @NickBurnham1 2 роки тому +1

    If anyone can hear that over the orchestra I might think it's worth it :P

  • @Mob-tq7gv
    @Mob-tq7gv 2 роки тому

    Clarinets: Presses pinky up and down rapidly

  • @artsmakesmusic7990
    @artsmakesmusic7990 2 роки тому +2

    Just open and close the spit valve really fast

  • @werdwerdus
    @werdwerdus 2 роки тому

    holy shit that's good

  • @Cheezydote
    @Cheezydote 2 роки тому +2

    I play French horn, and I have a trill in the song we are playing, it’s hilarious

  • @jimiyu.
    @jimiyu. 2 роки тому +3

    bruh if stravinsky was still alive he would probably find a way for violins to play a 6 octave scale

    • @btat16
      @btat16 2 роки тому +1

      Funny thing is violins can already do that by using subharmonics and artificial harmonics. It’s really cool but, for the violinist’s sake, shouldn’t be made into a common technique lol

    • @jimiyu.
      @jimiyu. 2 роки тому +1

      @@btat16 wait what
      lmao I knew how to play a 5 octave scale with harmonics but 6 octaves????? Huh

    • @btat16
      @btat16 2 роки тому

      @@jimiyu. I recommend listening to Mari Kimura’s music with her subharmonic playing. Her music isn’t for everyone, but the technique is nonetheless impressive! She essentially uses bow pressure to “cancel out” some vibrations of the string, leading to a harmonic series that goes down in pitch and not up. She’s hit mid-upper cello range with her playing!

  • @PastaTurtle
    @PastaTurtle 2 роки тому

    Just flexing on us at this point

  • @ChickyNuggs855
    @ChickyNuggs855 2 роки тому

    How was your slide staying in 2nd position when you moved your hand?🤔0:31

  • @justinrivas7995
    @justinrivas7995 9 місяців тому

    What song is this I really like it

  • @ivyssauro123
    @ivyssauro123 2 роки тому

    I didn't even know this was possible wth

  • @rraftapapirpp
    @rraftapapirpp 2 роки тому

    good thing he's a trombonist and not a conductor

  • @scrombus8232
    @scrombus8232 2 роки тому

    At my school they call trombone players tromboners

  • @elijahp.
    @elijahp. 2 роки тому

    I just performed this song like a few weeks ago.

  • @littlewishy6432
    @littlewishy6432 2 роки тому +1

    Which version of the Firebird is this? The trombone usually starts trilling after two measures of the melody after the “key change,” at least, in the version that I'm used to hearing (1919).

  • @jennifermharrison
    @jennifermharrison 2 роки тому

    Wait is this song firebird? We’re playing this as our show in marching band this season lol

  • @ThyLocalIdiot
    @ThyLocalIdiot 2 роки тому

    0:32
    Who holding onto the slide exactly?

  • @quinnblade6631
    @quinnblade6631 2 роки тому +1

    How do do that trill? That sounds awesome!

    • @march.7561
      @march.7561 Рік тому +1

      It's hard to say. I, myself, am barely starting to get the hang of it, so it just takes months of practice.

  • @sarahvandenberg7624
    @sarahvandenberg7624 2 роки тому

    But it sounds epic tho

  • @MX.D.
    @MX.D. 2 роки тому

    I am a beginner trombonist and this scares me

  • @AriannaCunningham
    @AriannaCunningham 2 роки тому +12

    I think it's kinda hard to trill on a trombone.

    • @ScratchySlide
      @ScratchySlide 2 роки тому +1

      Not really. Just requires practice.

  • @Lifewitcamm_.
    @Lifewitcamm_. 2 роки тому

    Jesus trills are so hard nd u made it look easy

  • @lewismcdermott3024
    @lewismcdermott3024 2 роки тому +1

    fuck our concert band did a Suite arrangement of the Firebird and we didn't have a trombone - you're telling me i missed THIS!? heartbroken.

  • @mrs.sea-emperor-leviathan6027
    @mrs.sea-emperor-leviathan6027 2 роки тому

    Do you know what I do I just shake the trombone

  • @FalconTheCpt
    @FalconTheCpt 2 роки тому

    So nobody was gonna tell me we can lip trill???
    I had to find this out 8 years in by MYSELF???

  • @tylerr5285
    @tylerr5285 2 роки тому

    What happens when you mix Smetana's Má Vlast: V. Tábor near the end of the movement with The Simpsons theme?

  • @devindoesntlikeyou2546
    @devindoesntlikeyou2546 2 роки тому

    Is that firebird? Our marching band is doing this piece rn, we were actually going to go to our first contest of the season today but it got cancelled :/

  • @mountaindaisy3387
    @mountaindaisy3387 2 роки тому

    What is trilling

  • @xkay-six1845
    @xkay-six1845 2 роки тому

    What are the chances we just played Firebird this past Tuesday lol

  • @1classikai
    @1classikai 2 роки тому

    Bro how do you even accomplish this

  • @ruthe.2292
    @ruthe.2292 2 роки тому

    Ugh firebird.

  • @pickles3829
    @pickles3829 2 роки тому

    Why is it that every trombonist has a certain skill that they are the best at, there’s Timo, extremely good at trills, there’s people like Josh Holcomb who is amazing at flutter toungue, and I’m pretty good at Crescendo and decrescendo, especially dynamics like fp

  • @ocularzombie6679
    @ocularzombie6679 2 роки тому

    I almost played Firebird but covid fucked it up

  • @markbanana5775
    @markbanana5775 2 роки тому

    If you don't mind me asking, what type of trombone do you play

    • @hhyuuu8498
      @hhyuuu8498 2 роки тому

      Tenor trombone with f attachment

  • @jacobshiv
    @jacobshiv 2 роки тому

    i play trupent

  • @PittsburghPirates2265
    @PittsburghPirates2265 2 роки тому

    Hi

  • @hanginnik1377
    @hanginnik1377 2 роки тому

    Majer

  • @marije179
    @marije179 2 роки тому +2

    5 6 and

  • @johnsimpsen5
    @johnsimpsen5 2 роки тому +1

    Crispy lip slurs my guy

  • @eboone
    @eboone 2 роки тому

    Whiplash reference lol

  • @defect0053
    @defect0053 2 роки тому

    WHAT THE FFFFUCK!?

  • @Mitioritos
    @Mitioritos 2 роки тому

    I hate lip trills so much

  • @jakobmhleskjtskift9685
    @jakobmhleskjtskift9685 11 місяців тому +1

    Isn't he starting the trill two bars early?

  • @mpsmith9913
    @mpsmith9913 2 роки тому +1

    1. actually the trombone does play the melody for the first two bars after the modulation
    2. you just made this to show off your lip trills didn't you

  • @gregdearmond3309
    @gregdearmond3309 2 роки тому

    ?

  • @4footassassin143
    @4footassassin143 2 роки тому

    that aint right how you have to play 5 sharp yes sig and play a high trill and you use just ur mouth to do the trill. why you flexin? XD respect

  • @blapis89
    @blapis89 Рік тому

    Hahaha 5-6 and

  • @connorw6335
    @connorw6335 2 роки тому +1

    I thought this was called a shake and trill was impossible on trombone without a trigger

    • @aussiebird14
      @aussiebird14 2 роки тому

      A shake/tremolo is just a type of trill. Specifically a trill between two notes that are more than a tone apart

  • @brycekar065
    @brycekar065 2 роки тому +2

    Day 69 of commenting. Nice

  • @walmartreekid9315
    @walmartreekid9315 2 роки тому

    good video but why does your face look like youre about to cry?

  • @noahperkins96
    @noahperkins96 2 роки тому

    Major cringe from Stravinsky smdh