The reason people buy a Camry because they think it's the most reliable car in the world and will go through a billion miles without breaking a sweat. In reality, that mazda is probably just as reliable.
I live in a country fill with japanese cars and yes toyota is reliable but dam i hate how ppl feel they dont have their share of problems god awful sometimes
I love it when im driving on the streets and several times I will see many makes and models ,but only one Mazda per day if im lucky. Its cool to know that not to many people are buying the type of car that I have .This makes my car stand out from the crowd . Who wants to be driving something that others are driving . It begins to get bland and unnoticable .
Your right I don’t see many Mazdas in my city all I see is Honda Toyota and Kia. I currently own a honda I love my honda don’t get me wrong but I want something different and a unique driving experience for a change and I use to like Mazdas back in high school now I’m 28 And I’m strongly considering buying a Mazda.
The 4 cylinder is not the reason for lack of sales since 4 out of every 5 Honda Accords, Nissan Altimas, and Toyota Camrys are 4 cylinder. I think it has to do with brand recognition.
Juan Garcia agree! I read that usually 80% of buyers choose 4 cyl over 6 cyl. Potential buyers should be more open to try it instead of going with what is “Trending”
I agree. I have owned two Mazda 6's and love them, but people are constantly surprised because they don't hear Mazda frequently enough to recognize it's even an option in the Toyota/Honda flooded market.
Current mazda6 drives great, read up on their Skyactiv tech, it's not about "oh more cylinders would be better", look at their compression rate, look at the torque. It's actually better than what Camry has to offer, plus, if you don't know, Mazda offered a stock "sport" mode on this last gen in restyle only, what it does is not only some better gear shifting, it also keeps the RPM up for optimal torque, makes the gas pedal more responsive etc. I love how it drives in that mode. And comparing Mazda to korean cars like Kia or Hyundai is laughable. Kia bought Mazda engines for years, before making something of their own, Hyundai is just the definition of "el cheapo" in materials and design, I owned some, they never drive well. Mazda's real comparison is Honda as a rival brand in Japan. You know, a real car brand, not the fake-copycat-wannabe type. The reason why Mazdas don't sell well is the same reason of why most people prefer fastfood that makes them fat - most people are dumb.
I think people overlook the Mazda 6 because they either forget Mazda exists while they're shopping or they aren't familiar enough with the brand and go with something they know like Honda, Toyota, or Nissan. Mazda has never sold cars in huge numbers in the US. They've always kind of been a niche brand. I have a 2015 Mazda 6 with the 6-speed manual and it's a great car. It's beautiful, fun to drive, reliable, roomy, fuel efficient, and low maintenance. Yes, the engine is a bit anemic but I'll sacrifice some power for its amazing fuel efficiency, and while some people will be put off by there not being a more powerful engine option, I would say 8/10 buyers in this segment would be satisfied with the SkyActive 2.5. I also have to address the elephant in the room here. The biggest reason besides the manual transmission that I bought the 6 is because every other sedan in the class is so unfortunate looking compared to the 6. The 6 is a leggy supermodel compared to its competitors.
We just picked up the 2016 wagon for the wife and I absolutely love it. it makes me want to just go for a drive for no other reason other than driving it. It's got enough power, it's quiet, solid, relaxed and comfortable. Sure it could be better in some areas, but for the money you get an amazing car, and reliability. The Camry is for people who have given up on life.....hence the reason it sells so many.
admrob and, most people hate the word "enough". I hate that word. few examples why I hated it: this girl is attractive enough to be my girl friend... this car is good enough for a person like me... this food is good enough for me but not good enough for your brother... WTF... giving one four cylinder choice is good enough for no one. having choices is the key.
Toyota sucks until you see one that's 30 years old and rusted out Flintstone Mobile style but you turn the key and it starts. I don't like Toyotas either but explaining their success is no mystery.
A lot of people don't consider Mazda as a player. I've had a 2014 Camry, i've driven a brand new 2015 Accord for about a week and my Mazda6 is a much better car.
Bought one and gave up my BMW 328i for this.. no regrets.. I'm amazed with the build and ride form Mazda. Get off you butts and test drive one.. it's not s rocket but drives smooth and gets great MPG's...
Because people just want more power and don't care about anything else. What does more power give you? Nothing but fulfilling a lot of egos. The Mazda's remain the most fun to drive while getting some of the best gas mileage.
The Adventure Mazda Powerful engine is about ego, agree! I don’t know why Drivers pay more for a bigger engine and waist gas money every time they accelerate. With all the traffic light and city traffic, power is useless. 184 HP is enough for most drivers. Agree. Mazda 6 great car that stands out and it’s fun to own and drive. More exclusive
The Adventure Mazda. If thats the case then why are most Camrys and Accords sold the 4 bangers? V6 versions of either tend to make up single digit percentages of sales every year.
It is really unnerving to read people's comments like the will blow away the Mazda. Really? Even if it is a full second of difference in 0-60mph, so what? When does that matter? Are people testing every car they pull up next to at a light? With that mentality why buy anything other than the fastest car available? I want to get a new car that has a driver's dynamic that makes me enjoy driving the car every time I have to go somewhere. My current daily driver is a 2006 Mazda3, 5sp manual with a 2.0L NA engine. It is still fun to drive and comfortable and exciting when I want it to be. And you know what? I have never raced anybody in it! Know what else? It has never been in the shop for a repair! It has only 107k miles on it though! I am now considering the Mazda6 with the 2.5L NA engine and a 6sp manual. I am not sure that I don't want to buy a new Mazda3 and I am also unsure about all the new cars with the turbo motors. I am concerned about reliabilty and maintenance costs because I plan on keeping it for at least ten years.
Jobula powerful engine is not about ego, its about FUN! It's fun to accelerate quickly and feel yourself getting pushed against the seat. Yes, corners are fun but if the car is slow then that is just no fun. I mean, take the old Buick Grand National. It did not handle. BUT it was a rocket from 0-60 and that made up for it. But what about the mazda 6 with the SIX cylinder engine?! Is that slow as well??
The Mazda 6 is the only car of its category that actually make some turn my head when I see one. It just looks good. I'm not in the market for a new car, but if I was, this would be a top choice. I think mazda makes incredible designs, at least compared to Toyota or Honda cars that look boring or even kind of ugly (civic) to me.
I'm driving it for a year now and it is a pure joy... didn't really noticed any lack of power maybe BC i owned a bunch of V8 trucks before that? imagne if mazda put a V6 in it and a 4WD system that would be Epic
Europe --> wagon.... check..... turbo (diesel) ... check .... awd (option) ..... check Ok the turbo diesel is only 175HP (for you 65mph max people ;-) ) But the thing is smooth and has more than enough torque to pull the asphalt from the ground and you'll probably have to refuel every 600 miles (yes, diesels are more fuel efficient) And yes, I have been looking at almost any review which tend to be positive for every car, meaning biased in any way. Reading the owners opinions after a year or 2 years of owning it gives a much better knowledge of how happy owners are. To be honest they score high, even with a couple of faults in the beginning but all sorted out by a company that seems to care which also matters a lot to me. Still might buy it (shall I go for the awd, wagon and turbo one?)
Hi ***** , I don't have a Mazda so I can't speak to reliability. I can tell you that my mother's 2016 CX-5 is on its second transmission (1st was defective), but overall appears to be made well. Depending on requirements and a 28K budget it's hard to beat a new WRX. That's what I went with and after 1 year and 26K it's been 100% solid.
Floyd Watt I drive a 2012 skyactiv 3 and have never once had a mechanical issue outside of electrical issue with the interior overhead lights (which still don't work). Other than that the only things I've had to do to were the regular maintenance stuff such as a new battery (which the factory battery lasted until 76k miles), having spark plugs replaced at 73k miles, having brake fluid replaced at 61.5k miles, and having the front brake pads replaced at 72k miles. The car has been great and a joy to drive over the last 3 and a half years
***** They did 100% with a loaner until it was done. Hybrids are good for city stop/go, but less for highway. Open road the batteries and electric motors are mostly dead weight and something like a Skyactiv 3 with a small 4-banger should return 40 mpg+ without the extra electric.
I never understood American's obsession with big engines in regular car. I mean this is a family saloon, not some race car, 8-9sec to 60 is perfectly acceptable in this type of car.
What's wrong with wanting more power? The whole point of a car is do things quicker. If you truly adhered to your way of thinking, you'd be walking. A car is such a waste, isn't it?
Dependent on vehicle and personal taste.. most just drive from point A to point B, typical economy car, personally i love my truck at 390hp 410 lb ft of torque, zooms past people really well, sound of the V8 puts me in a much better mood, that goes with hill driving as well, its a chore for me to have a slower less horse power car, with the engine sounding like a lawn mower, V6 and up are typically a good note, off road worthy is another necessity
From what I've seen/heard/read is that Mazda for the next few years is not even going to consider building fast cars. From what I've read, Mazda's head of production said in a press conference that the earliest we could see another mazdaspeed model here in the US would be in 2020 for the 2021 model year (and that's IF they even decide to continue the mazdaspeed legacy)
Have this exact same car/year model now. Got it at 17k miles three years ago. Zero problems so far and now I'm at a 103k miles. (A lot of Uber, lot of interstate miles, and a nice daily commute to work) I'd say aside from a Lexus ES 300, this is probably the most reliable car out there. Take care of it and these cars just keep going and going. Not fast but excellent on curves and handling. May wind up getting a new one with the turbo.
I recently bought one in soul red GT with the 19" stock mags.. what a beauty, I love the way it handles and drives. The built quality is just something Toyota drivers will never understand.
I've loved this car since it's intro, and just picked up a very nice used 2014 Touring model. Beautiful inside and out, and as everyone knows, rather sporty and great to drive in the twisties. 184 bhp, not winning all the drag races, but enough to have a little fun. I would guess most people shopping in this category are more concerned with a cushy ride, and a dang ol' v6, 'cause power makes more betterness and 4 cylinders is just worhtless! But some of us know they're missing the point. I can't afford a 5 series or E class, so the 6er is the best of the rest in m eyes. I also agree with you Roman, people just aren't as aware of Mazda as the other brands, their loss!
I have a 2014 Mazda 6, and Love It!! Right from the get go, that car has impressed me and still does. When I first got it, I had co-workers ask about it. Most had never seen it and all loved the look of it. Low, lean and wide, and it will move when pressed. I intend to keep this car for a while. All I can say is look at this car if you are considering this segment of the market, you will be impressed.
When my wife and I were in the market, the Mazda 6 was near the top of our list. I agree that the handling was the best in the class and it felt the lightest and most agile. We also loved the styling. For us, the lack of a V6 and the slightly slower acceleration did not bother us much. However the deal breaker was usable space. Rear headroom and leg room is well behind the others in the class. Comfort in the back was unacceptable. It feels like being in a coffin. But this is a drivers car. If it was just my wife and I, this is the car we would have bought. We are a family of 4 and we wanted our kids to be comfy and be able to stretch out. We ended up getting a Honda Accord V6 Touring and we loved it.
The largest reason to me is the average consumer isn't informed. They go with the brand they are familiar with, much like they only buy Samsung tv's, or GE appliances....etc because that's what they are used to and that's what people around them suggest. Also, most drivers don't care about a car being driver-geared, they like a mute experience that makes driving calm and easy (think of all the complains the Ford Focus and Fiesta have for the dual clutch transmission not being smooth). Nothing wrong with all of that, but so many people must be very boring and lack personality. But I'm a car guy, so I see the world entirely differently than someone like that and they probably manage their finances really well lol.
Honestly... I think the reason why they don't sell more mazda6's is because of the dealer networks and lack of advertising. I don't think it has anything at all to do with the i4 under the hood. My reasoning: look at the sales numbers for the competitors, all of the other competitors have majority of their sales come from the 4 cylinder engine options. Camry sells twice the amount of 4 cylinders than they do the V6 versions, same with the Altima, and ALMOST the same for the Accord. The Accord sells a little less than twice the amount of four cylinders as they do six cylinders.
Tons of Mazda's here in OZ. Def way more pleasing to eye than any Toyota and equally reliable I've heard. After having a very negative experience with a VW (both car and service Dept) I just bought one of these - of the wagon variety in 'Soul Red' - can't wait!
Dealer network sucks and no one cares about sport driving. People want just to get from a to b reliably and cheaply. So they'll chose familiarity like Toyota or Honda and now Hyundai and Kia.
ron s You're right. Enthusiast only make up a small percentage of the market. The majority are going to stick with the aforementioned brands because to them they are synonymous with reliability and quality. Not to say Mazda don't make reliable and quality cars. They just don't market their cars well enough.
ron s This is pretty much it. Smaller dealer network and Mazda doesn't have that history of reliability in its corner either. Reviewers tend to think that raving about how sporty a car is will make a difference in its sales. News flash, it wont. Not in a segment where the majority of buyers care nothing about sports car reflexes.
Reasons why I don't think it sells well: 1) Maintenance cost is very high 2) One of the loudest interiors in the class. They remove a lot of sound deadening material in order to make the car light weight. 3) Terrible Dunlop tires that come with it from the factory. They are lousy in snow and the fact that the car is very light doesn't help much with traction in snow. (I live in the Northeast so this is important to many) 4) Narrow front seats that are only comfortable for more slim people. Not designed for the average American. 5) Cheap paint that chips easily. This is very sad given the fact that you pay extra for the premium colors. 6) Terrible visibility out the back and sides, the B pillar is a huge blind spot! (The blind spot monitor helps but the system tends to be over reactive). A sporty car like this should inspire confidence, having a car with poor visibility takes away driver confidence. They already stated in the video, 7) No V6 option. 8) Small dealer network and limited rebate availability. Now I don't personally own the car but was very interested in purchasing one. One of my good friends (who is a car enthusiast) and who owns a 2016 Mazda 6GT quickly talked me out of getting one for some of those main reasons. It's all just a hype that car reviewers have for this car in the class because it drives sporty and comes with a manual transmission. They clearly don't take in account what the majority of consumers want in a midsize sedan, which sadly the Mazda does not 100% deliver. I hope they address some of these cons in their future redesign because they do create beautiful cars.
Sean Reis you try doing basic stuff in Mazda's like changing the cabin air filter. in the Mazda 3 you have to take out the fuse panel. in a toyota or Honda you just drop the globe box down and 2 min later. .new air filter
Probably one of the reasons why maintenance cost for these cars is so high if you go to the dealership. The labor cost and time just to do the simplest things...
Have 3 Mazdas in the family from different generations. The only thing I agree is they are not the best in terms of interior NVH. They have already acknowledged this as a major Achilles heel for the brand and have found a permanent fix for it and has committed to rolling out starting with the CX9 and new cx5. The maintenance cost is on par with the rest and the parts last far far longer for some reason. They are moving upmarket as a brand because they cannot compete with the big guys. The future of this brand is indeed exciting if the cx9 and new cx5 is anything to go by.
I never said the car was high maintenance, just said that the dealership maintenance costs (at least here in the Boston area) are expensive compared to something like a Accord or Camry. I understand that these costs will be much less if you do it yourself, but for the average midsize sedan owner the maintenance will be done at the dealership. For example, one dealership I looked up charged $1,162.85 for the 75k service! That's fine if it's like a Audi or BMW but for a Mazda that's ridiculous... I do agree if the CX-9 and future CX-5 are hints at what's to come, then a lot of these issues will probably be fixed in the next generation Mazda6. I may even look into the CX-5 since it has AWD and may be available with a fuel efficient diesel engine. For someone like me that drives 25k miles a year (75% highway) then the fuel savings alone would at least make up for the maintenance costs.
Sorry, but for $34k, I'm not dealing with a 4 cylinder. The 6 has wonderful handling, best in class exterior and interior, but the engine is seriously lacking compared to the competition.
A 2015, not the 2017. Any mid sized sedan without a v6 offering is a waste of time, but that's just my own subjective opinion. I'm sure there are people out there who want the space, fuel economy and driving dynamics of the Mazda 6, but there is a reason these things aren't selling like the Accord and the Camry.
Mike Vita It's not because of it not having a v6. 80-90% of buyers in this segment don't care about power. The biggest problem with this car is that most buyers in this segment don't care or know anything about Mazda. They'd rather buy something they're familiar with like a Toyota or Honda. Mazdas have never been hot sellers in the US.
KentB27 I agree 100% but remember Hyundai was in the same position less than 10 years ago. Their marketing & warranty has helped them tremendously. Mazda should take note
Got my first Mazda 6 from 2006, haven't enjoyed the driving experience of another vehicle since, so I can imagine how great a newer version feels. Buying this car next week.
I own a 2011 with a v6. It is the first car that I've owned that is fun to drive, especially on curvy roads. Hugs corners and is just a blast to drive. The only reason I don't sell my 2011 and get a new one is the lack of a 6 cylinder engine. But they are just fun cars. Accord and Camry are boring compared to the Mazda6
My wife just got bought this car, 2017 Grand Touring version. What a fantastic car and it should be selling more, way more. Great drive experience, mileage, interior etc... I get the engine piece but after driving it around the hills in Oregon, it easily holds it own against the competition. Super happy on our end to have this car. Great review BTW
i got a 2016 touring and i love this car! the interior is the best IMO and it handles really nice. unfortunately most people will only blindly buy one brand
I bought a 2014 Mazda 6 Touring new. Now after 47K miles I still really enjoy it. After all that time I'm averaging 31.1 mpg in combined driving. The suspension is more taunt than others in the segment, and I personally really enjoy that connected feeling to the road. Here in the desert in Phoenix Az mine will do a sub 8 second 0-60. Yeah, its not a pocket rocket, but I've never been short of power for merging, and for an overall great driving experience, with a good looking car inside and out, I thought it was the best car in the segment for my needs.
So the answer to this question is “people are just dumb”. I started reviewing sedans like yesterday and Im already in love with this one. I think this car will be my first car purchase.
All I know is I love my 2016! The GT fully packaged is a sweet car. Only complaints is the stock tires they sell with it are LOUD and slip in the water dangerously too easy. Switched mine out after 20k miles thought and now I have 0 complaints.
Ppl buy far more 4 cylinder versions of Accords and Camrys than their v6 variants. Hell, a Hyundai Sonata doesn't have a V6 either yet it sells. V6 is NOT the problem. I do think they need a turbo charged variant for the GT models though
soiceyboy33 also Hyundai turbo4 is not that fast, because it's limited by the transmission. Mazda's high compression skyactive is quicker to respond, even with their automatics.
I have the 2015 Mazda GS (mid trim). Picked it up in 2014 has about 82 thousand km. It's a fun car to drive! My family has been Toyota buyers for decades but we took a chance on the Mazda. There are neat little features that Mazda has that other regular class vehicles do not possess. 1. Auto lock when you walk away. I've grown accustomed to it and it really helps when you forget to lock your car 2. Blind spot monitoring has sound. Unlike the other makers, Mazda has a blind spot monitoring that chimes. It helps a whole lot when you are driving. 3.the blind spot has 1.5 car lengths in recognition. People may say that it is too much but it is not. The amount of times that blind spot monitoring picked up a speeding car that came out of nowhere saved my life. 4. The seats are 10way on the mid trim. Highest trim in other vehicles only have 8 way. 5.nothing can beat the driving dynamics of this vehicle in its price range. Handles amazing. Though there are good things about the vehicle there are also bad things. Paint is thin, scratches easily.
Bcomes Hate Toyota's. Had two in my life and honestly they make a great 4cyl that's it. Their interior game is trash, electronics- trash, ride quality- trash. I'd go Honda, Mazda, Hyundai, Toyota.
I actually think Mazda is doing very well by finding its own niche in an over saturated market. I'm a Mazda owner (owned 3 in my lifetime so far) and my parents are loyal Toyota fans for decades, there's nothing wrong with either brand, they both excel at pleasing the consumer segment they aim to please.
We wouldn't be having this discussion if Mazda puts that new CX-9 turbo engine and Skyactiv-D in this thing. The diesel would have this thing getting 55MPG hwy. Since we know the new CX-5 is getting the diesel, maybe Mazda gets smart and installs that engine in every car besides the Miata. Mazda is missing out.
It's not just about the increased horsepower of a V6, it's more about the quiet and smooth power delivery of such. The V6's from Toyota and Honda don't groan under acceleration and you don't need to give it huge throttle applications just to merge with traffic (lots of metered on-ramp lights near me mean you literally need to do 0-75 on a 10% very short distance ramp). The experience of the V6 makes the car feel more expensive than it really is.
Few con we found in this 2017 6 was, less cabin space, increased cabin noise, no Android/ Apple/Mirrorlink support, it took around 15 min for someone in the showroom to greet us in Memphis TN showroom.
Parker Goslin I used to have one but got rid of it after getting a standard 6 with a V6 and 5spd manual. While obviously not as quick it proved to be a better overall driver's car -- lighter, less ponderous, more responsive to steering and braking inputs, etc. -- just more nimble. Ended up trading the Speed6 for a Lancer Ralliart because it was better for Chicago conditions -- easier to park, better low-end response for scooting into small gaps in traffic, much better AWD system for snow-belt driving, and a DCT that relieves me of having to step on a clutch pedal 50 times per mile, the novelty of which wore off long ago.
Why doesn't it sell? It is too foreign for most American buyers and the question of servicing, resale values & long term reliability vs. Toyota & Honda. As for the "it lacks power" argument, 90% of Camrys & Accords are sold with a 4cyl engine. V6 make up a very small number of sales. A hybrid powertrain which is becoming ever increasingly common in midsize sedans would be nice, but Mazda is a relatively small firm with a small R&D budget.
Mazda also cannot afford to lose money on low margins with a V6. Fact is, Honda and Toyota make very little money on their V6 Accords and Camrys compared to the I4s, as does the dealer. Hence, you only find a couple on the lots, with salesmen hounding you to buy the I4 version and walking away from you in disgust when you tell them you want to special order one. The V6 versions are loss leaders frankly.
Just bought one on Saturday. I was looking at the usual suspects in this class, and to be honest...the Mazda wasn't even on my radar. I stumbled upon it in a video review, and fell in love with the looks. I test drove the Camry, Accord, Altima and Fusion and it wasn't even close (to me at least). Best looks, most fun to drive, lowest price, best fuel economy...it was a no brainer for me, and also my wife. She won't be driving it, so she would usually just say to pick the one I like the best, but she was definitely opinionated toward the 6
Reason why I didn't get one was because of the power. I do love the interior and I really like the exterior styling. It's just slow. Ended up with an accord touring coupe for the same price and it's a much more fun car to drive imo. That being said I wouldn't mind picking one up second hand that's a few years old to use for uber or just any other task where I don't need the v6 power as much as I need the mpg and comfort and styling the mazda6 has to offer.
There were going to release the Turbo Diesel in the US, and kept saying it was coming for like 3 years. It never came people bought other options. I had a friend that really wanted one and the dealer even said it would be in within a few months..a year later he bought a BMW diesel because he figured they lied.
Brad Motors3 They wouldnt have to worry, just dont put a VW diesel in it and dont fake their results. (unless that was their plan since they claimed they did not need urea either)
Well I would say that it is likely the importer and not Mazda itself. The weird stuff I've seen here in Europe even with EU designed and made cars is just crazy. An example is a electrical heated front window to de-ice which we can't from VW when 20miles further in Holland it can be ordered without an issue. Even warranty for VW we can only get 2 years while 60 miles further in Germany you pay a fixed price for 4 years. It all depends on the importer it seems. I've driven the touring turbo diesel 6 and it had some serious pulling power. Seems they are not cheating on the exhaust pollution from what I've heard. Very low compression diesel and the petrol seems to be extremely high compression. It was the most refined diesel 4 cylinder I've driven and I would have bought one with the blink of an eye if not for my last paragraph. I've test driven the 2 liter petrol touring last Monday and it was ok, 163hp is enough to do double your speedlimits. Ok I missed the torque of my 105hp, kid you not, 1.9TDI but I guess for regular use it is more than fast enough. The gearbox was a joy so I think when you occasionally can get the wife and kids out of the car you can get a nice high rev'ing engine that is still more than fast and capable enough. Unfortunately here in Europe they are now punishing people who buy diesels by doubling the road tax and making cities low emission with certain Euro norms. For example a 2004 Golf diesel euro 3 will be not allowed into the city I live in starting next week. A 1994 Jaguar 4.8L v8 petrol will still be allowed. That is also the reason why you see 1l 3 cylinder turbo engines with 115hp etc developed just because they have to because of the getting stricter EU norms. Good for leasing cars and making politicians happy that they made more ecological cars but not for the buyer that wants to buy a car that lasts. And yes look at the process of making a new car it pollutes more than keeping a good car for 15 years that pollutes a bit.. Cars , taxes and fuel prices , you guys should come to Europe and you'll be happy to live in the US.
Test drove the 6 Sport with the manual, and I love it very much. Excellent ride, handling, and performance, plus it looks incredible. Trading my Focus in for one.
I'll tell you why it's the slowest selling car.. For one there's no dealership. There's a Honda, Toyota, subaru, hyundai, and gm probably more all in my city besides Mazda.
I just rented one of these and drove it 600 miles. Great gas mileage and drives very well. In sport mode it has plenty of power and speed. Realistically how much power and speed does one need in a daily drive on city streets? It looks better than the accord and camry. I am liking this Mazda and the VW Passat. But as an Audi A4 owner I know the VW will be in the shop more. The only thing about the Mazda I didn’t like were the brakes. The car I rented had 29k miles and the steering wheel would shudder when hitting the brakes at freeway speeds if I pressed them medium hard. Overall I really like the car though.
I would buy that over the altima. and brand loyalty does play a big part in it. I'm a Toyota guy and do admit the cars are a bit behind but I trust Toyota because of all the cars I've owned never let me down. Also I think Mazda track record was tarnished when they paired up with ford back in the day, even though they still do have ford parts. They are slowly getting away from using so much Ford parts.
I can't decide if I want to buy the new Mazda3 or Mazda6 , either with the 2.5l manual transmission. I currently own 1 2006 Mazda3 with 2.0l manual transmission and is truly enjoyable to drive. I don't want a new car with a turbo motor or with CVT drivetrain. I have never driven the Mazda6 but will try one out. Just for notice, Honda is not going to offer the Accord with a V6 motor or the sport coupe anymore and all you can get is the 1.5l or 2.0l turbo motors unless you go hybrid. Camry still offers the V6 in their new model with a 8sp automatic but no manual option.
I have owned my 2017 Mazda 6 2,5L 192 horsepower Optimum (with every bit of accessory added on ;-) ) station wagon for a little over a month now, and I'm still sad when I arrive at my destination because then I have to get out of my car. I am that much in love with it! Everything about it is just so fantastic. Seriously: my biggest complaint has to do with how the song list is displayed when I want to switch to another file on my USB. That's how flawless this car is.
wow how ironic. in Europe and Australia it's the best selling mid size car in its segment and our 2.5lt is turned for high hp. the v6 argument is so old school.
JDMSteven agree. I had a 6 now have a sp25 Mazda 3 and it's one of the best small hatches to drive and lean on. funny how in the USA the dealer networks gets a bad wrap where as here in Oz it's one of if not the best.
Hands down the most beautiful car in the segment. After driving this car for the last 3 years, I can say that it's great. Aside from the looks, the other real positive is the ride. It's a firm ride, but NOTHING at all what I expected when I first drove it. It's actually the perfect balance between performance and comfort. The initial stroke of the suspension is actually comfortable and perfectly tuned. It's the part that soaks up the ripples, asphalt changes, manhole covers, etc. It's actually plush, and surprisingly comfortable. But the rest of the suspension is firm to allow composure and stability when pushed for performance. I find it to be the perfect balance, and it's definitely not the sloppy/floaty suspension that you sometimes find in this segment. Aside from the looks and ride, everything else is great, too. Engine, transmisson, brakes, AC, noise, and comfort. Even the doors have a perfectly tuned clunk/thud when closed, even slammed. Zero complaints from me.
That's what the car is rated for too (7.4 - 7.5).... I mean my gosh my 9 year old 6 is around 7.8. You can't tell me it takes 8.5 seconds to get this car 0-60. Stop driving it like a grandma. These cars were meant to be revved. In my '08 6 I can drive around doing 60 MPH in 2nd gear, and I've still got room before I get to the redline. That's how it's supposed to be driven. Even with an automatic, switch it over into manual mode, and take control of your ride!
Honestly, when I was in the market 2 years ago, I was looking at the Mazda 6, the Altima, and the Accord. Before driving any, I favored the Mazda 6. On driving the Mazda I felt like I had to be too heavy on the throttle to get it moving. Feel or reality, that was my perception. Also I felt like the Mazda wasn't well planted, felt like it had a high center of balance. Everything else I liked on the Mazda. In the end I went with a 4 cylinder Accord.
i have a white 2016 mazda 6 and it is the best car i have ever owned. i have driven 50 000 miles in 14 months and it has never experienced one single problems. built like a tank. the gas mileage i get with this thing is incredible. sometimes more than 48 mpg's on the highway. i have averaged 33,6 mpg's on the entire 50 000 miles. it looks good and is very agile too. the steering is very communicative for such an affordable car.
Currently Mazda has a great deal on the touring. You should get the sunroof/bose package for $1325 and now the touring premium package for $1425. The latter includes LED daytime running lights; LED headlights with auto leveling; Adaptive front-lighting system; Auto-dimming interior mirror; Homelink; Auto-dimming driver's side exterior mirror; Heated side mirrors; Leather trimmed seats; 8-way power driver's seat with power lumbar support. Show me someone offering so much equipment for this money. Now there's a $2000 rebate available as well.
They are a small volume seller, they cannot diversify so much as their competitors as it would not be financially viable. Thats one reason the Mazdaspeed 3 only sold in i spec, MT hatchback.
Armesis P That's not a legitimate excuse. Mazda has lost their way. They gave up "zoom zoom" and took up tree-hugging eco garbage. Nobody wants a "sports sedan" that only offers a shitty and slow NA 4-cylindar as its only option. I honestly hope they really get fucked in their sales so they are forced to make a change.
I own this car! My car is white, solid black interior, tinted windows---2017 Mazda 6 Grand Touring. It is awesome! The only reason I can think of as to why it doesn't sell more is there is not as much advertising as with comparable sedans. This gorgeous, 2017 Mazda 6 comes standard with your speed along with speed limit signs from the road reflected right inside the windshield! I read up on this car before purchasing, and found out it is the safest car on the road! It's super fun to drive, and has a great pick up for a 4 cylinder. When I went on my test drive, I was impressed with the pickup, however it was a little under my Hyundai Genesis Coup with a 6 cylinder that I had to lay to rest in a junk yard due to flooding in my area. After expressing my concern about settling for a 4 cylinder from a 6 cylinder, even though this car with Skyring Technology" was comparable, my salesman surprises me and says, "well, this car is equipped with a sports mode"! so he reaches down and flips on the sport mode, and I took off even faster and much smoother than my old Hyundai Genesis! At that moment I was SOLD! Still driving this as of today, but planning on moving up to the Mazda 6 Coup when it comes out (fingers crossed) in September of 2017. Mazda makes some very nice cars.
I have 2016 mazda6 as a commuter and I cannot be happier. I appreciate the sporty steering and handling, nice interior and great fuel Econ. Don't need anymore power. Got another sports car to get in trouble. It's not the purpose of this car.. I believe in mazda and its philosophy. Continue on this trajectory and they will be on par with Toyota and honda in a few years.
I think a big part of the problem, at least up here in the Great White North, is that you can get a fully loaded Mazda 3 with the same engine for significantly less money. I went from a 6-cylinder Mazda 6 to the high end Mazda 3 because it was at least as much fun to drive as the 6 and a lot cheaper. Better gas mileage as well.
Because Mazda talks about driving experience but can't find it in themselves to bring back Mazdaspeed. Also, there's something called forced induction.
Sandy Ban it depends on what model you are talking about. the ford partial ownership era should be relatively cheap since parts were shared between the two. clutches for certain performance models are relatively expensive. clutches for Mazdaspeed6s are around 400 bucks.
I have a Mazda touring 2016, and believe me it zoom zoom without hesitation. Started with 2001/mazda 626es/ had for 11years, Mazda 3/2014 touring for 2 years. Mazda all the way. Plus the style is eye catching.
I've had 3 Mazda cars in my life, and none of them have ever disappointed me in all aspects. I currently have a 2017 Mazda CX-3, a gorgeous looking CUV that is easily the best in its class. Mazda cars look luxurious, feel luxurious and drive like a luxurious car. Mazda should be placed among luxury cars because it is THAT great. Don't just take my word for it, test drive one for yourself. Among the Japanese giants, I truly believe Mazda is the best.
Honestly, if it was offered in rwd it would have no competition. I would buy that. Not just internet talk. An affordable rwd sedan with a manual? All I want.
I love Mazda 6. I switched from Toyota to mazda6 in 2006 and never looked back. Big difference and cannot compare. Once you go Mazda6 you never go back! The 2014 upgrade was amazing and I'm on my 3rd brand new Mazda!! Waiting for the 2018 upgrade :)
bought a used 2015 6 gt fully loaded for 22k with 32k miles. best sedan for the money. not fast, but loves the twistys. love the LED, HID headlamps, Bose stereo, good brakes. love the styling. had it about a year and i still look back at it when i walk away.
Roman I own a 2015 Mazda 3 hatchback and love it. Watching this you make me wanna upgrade to the 6. It's an awesome car. I don't think it's the engine, 184hp is plenty of power. It's the dealer network. Go Mazda!
I've got a 2011 Mazda 6 V6, in blue, and I love it! It's got a very nice sound at higher rpms, and it's very quick-you'll surprise a lot of people when you pass them or get into a highway drag (no it's not gonna beat a v8 muscle car or a Porsche, but it does hold its own pretty damn good). I can attest that it gets to 60 right at 6 seconds, but the best part is the 60-100...there's no lull or reduction in power all the way across the spectrum, a very even acceleration. It'll go 132mph, speed limited by an electronic governor. I've had it to that speed on more than one occasion, and it'll sit at about 4,500 rpms at that speed so if the limiter was removed then it potentially could hit 150mph. The size of the car is larger than a mid-size sedan but under a full-size. I especially love the flared front fenders which share the design characteristic of the last RX-8 model. My mom used to have an '04 Mazda 6 V6 (also in blue!) and it handled very well as does this one. Downsides for the car are: significant understeer especially when cornering, road/wind noise is atrocious, gas mileage...SUVs get better than mine (I have a lead foot though but average about 21mpg), lots of rattling plastic parts in the interior-had to stuff a paper towel wad near the back window underneath the roof panel to stop that noise there. It's a great car, but there's room for improvement. I'd like to see: better noise insulation, a turbo on the 3.7L V6, all wheel drive, & better build quality involving the cheap plastics and the rattling. My moms owned 4 Mazdas that I grew up with and I've owned 3 so I don't think I'll be changing brands anytime soon, but I sure as hell am not going back to a 4-banger, and before anyone says that the 4 cyl with a turbo is equivalent, consider that that's compared to a naturally aspirated V6, a turbo 4 cyl vs a turbo V6 is no comparison-the V6 will smoke the 4.
The reason people buy a Camry because they think it's the most reliable car in the world and will go through a billion miles without breaking a sweat. In reality, that mazda is probably just as reliable.
Especially with the Ford influence completely gone since 2015.... they really drug Mazda through the mud for a few years.
I doubt it. Toyota stands as number 1
oh if u get the 6 cylinder Camry the Mazda is probably more reliable tbh
@@MrWalker1000 actually mazda is number 1
I live in a country fill with japanese cars and yes toyota is reliable but dam i hate how ppl feel they dont have their share of problems god awful sometimes
I would get Mazda over Toyota and Honda because those two are way too common. Not only that but this car looks good, inside and out.
Sir Unknown true
That's true Hondas and Toyotas are me too cars .
ehh I'd say Toyota more than Honda with the addition of Hyundai and Nissan.
Joshua Johnson 😧
Joshua Johnson & get burned by both cars...HA!
I love it when im driving on the streets and several times I will see many makes and models ,but only one Mazda per day if im lucky. Its cool to know that not to many people are buying the type of car that I have .This makes my car stand out from the crowd . Who wants to be driving something that others are driving . It begins to get bland and unnoticable .
Here in New Zealand it's very popular. I see a Mazda dozens of times everytime I drive.
Your right I don’t see many Mazdas in my city all I see is Honda Toyota and Kia. I currently own a honda I love my honda don’t get me wrong but I want something different and a unique driving experience for a change and I use to like Mazdas back in high school now I’m 28 And I’m strongly considering buying a Mazda.
Popular in Australia too. Great cars.
I have a 2014 with 104,000 miles on it and I'm averaging around 31 mpg. Been flawless. One of the best cars I've owned.
The 4 cylinder is not the reason for lack of sales since 4 out of every 5 Honda Accords, Nissan Altimas, and Toyota Camrys are 4 cylinder. I think it has to do with brand recognition.
Juan Garcia agree! I read that usually 80% of buyers choose 4 cyl over 6 cyl. Potential buyers should be more open to try it instead of going with what is “Trending”
I agree. I have owned two Mazda 6's and love them, but people are constantly surprised because they don't hear Mazda frequently enough to recognize it's even an option in the Toyota/Honda flooded market.
Current mazda6 drives great, read up on their Skyactiv tech, it's not about "oh more cylinders would be better", look at their compression rate, look at the torque. It's actually better than what Camry has to offer, plus, if you don't know, Mazda offered a stock "sport" mode on this last gen in restyle only, what it does is not only some better gear shifting, it also keeps the RPM up for optimal torque, makes the gas pedal more responsive etc. I love how it drives in that mode.
And comparing Mazda to korean cars like Kia or Hyundai is laughable. Kia bought Mazda engines for years, before making something of their own, Hyundai is just the definition of "el cheapo" in materials and design, I owned some, they never drive well. Mazda's real comparison is Honda as a rival brand in Japan. You know, a real car brand, not the fake-copycat-wannabe type.
The reason why Mazdas don't sell well is the same reason of why most people prefer fastfood that makes them fat - most people are dumb.
Honda has that reputation that puts it above mazda they will trust the Honda name more.
@@MrWalker1000 Honda is trashy now
Sometimes better isn't always popular.
Better is also subjective.
Larry That's very true. I just wish everyone had a chance to drive one. I just upgraded from a 16 3 to the 17 6 and I'm hooked.
Dwayne Ogilvie better is also sometimes more expensive
Dwayne Ogilvie i agree!!
Mazda 6 is not more expensive than it's competitors.
oh also it's not selling because ppl want vanilla. they want comfy garbage vanilla
what car do you have? a mazda?
tinleo333 Mazda 3 hatchback
Taofiki Gafar-Schaner kinda like most people have shite walls in their homes. They’re afraid of adding some color.
I think people overlook the Mazda 6 because they either forget Mazda exists while they're shopping or they aren't familiar enough with the brand and go with something they know like Honda, Toyota, or Nissan. Mazda has never sold cars in huge numbers in the US. They've always kind of been a niche brand.
I have a 2015 Mazda 6 with the 6-speed manual and it's a great car. It's beautiful, fun to drive, reliable, roomy, fuel efficient, and low maintenance. Yes, the engine is a bit anemic but I'll sacrifice some power for its amazing fuel efficiency, and while some people will be put off by there not being a more powerful engine option, I would say 8/10 buyers in this segment would be satisfied with the SkyActive 2.5.
I also have to address the elephant in the room here. The biggest reason besides the manual transmission that I bought the 6 is because every other sedan in the class is so unfortunate looking compared to the 6. The 6 is a leggy supermodel compared to its competitors.
the camry and accord are better
In no way is the Camry or Accord better, they are very good but nothing comes to mind that they do better.
The Bat They score better in NVH
How can you tell its reliable when you just got it for 1 year? My mazda Demio from 99, thats been reliable. (got 235.000KM)
Amen, Kent. I've got a 2015 Mazda6 as well in a 6 speed manual. It is a beautiful car and handles very well. Wish it was faster of course.
We just picked up the 2016 wagon for the wife and I absolutely love it. it makes me want to just go for a drive for no other reason other than driving it. It's got enough power, it's quiet, solid, relaxed and comfortable. Sure it could be better in some areas, but for the money you get an amazing car, and reliability. The Camry is for people who have given up on life.....hence the reason it sells so many.
184 hp is enough for most people, but it's not competitive.
admrob and, most people hate the word "enough". I hate that word.
few examples why I hated it:
this girl is attractive enough to be my girl friend...
this car is good enough for a person like me...
this food is good enough for me but not good enough for your brother...
WTF...
giving one four cylinder choice is good enough for no one. having choices is the key.
admrob Compared to what? It is 100% competitive with the cars it competes with.
ER B 184hp for $34k is not competitive.
+admrob its competitive in the 4 cyl mid size car segment.
admrob exactly why I didn't like it. Drive is only so great. This car needs better acceleration
Consider brand loyalty, i know people who only buy Toyotas for example.
like me
Armesis P Toyota sucks!
F Khan
Yeah i know, they are like sponge cakes with no flavor. However, most of the population likes it lol.
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Toyota sucks until you see one that's 30 years old and rusted out Flintstone Mobile style but you turn the key and it starts.
I don't like Toyotas either but explaining their success is no mystery.
A lot of people don't consider Mazda as a player. I've had a 2014 Camry, i've driven a brand new 2015 Accord for about a week and my Mazda6 is a much better car.
In Saudi Arabia, The new Mazda 6 starts at around $18,000... and it sells like crazy!
Smart buyers. Enjoy
And they use this car for drifting lol
najrani741 We have it for $42.000 now with 2.5l engine here in Russia.
45000$ in Vietnam
Daniel Rahmanto Nope they mostly use Accords and Camrys for drifting.
Bought one and gave up my BMW 328i for this.. no regrets.. I'm amazed with the build and ride form Mazda.
Get off you butts and test drive one.. it's not s rocket but drives smooth and gets great MPG's...
Because people just want more power and don't care about anything else. What does more power give you? Nothing but fulfilling a lot of egos. The Mazda's remain the most fun to drive while getting some of the best gas mileage.
The Adventure Mazda Powerful engine is about ego, agree! I don’t know why Drivers pay more for a bigger engine and waist gas money every time they accelerate. With all the traffic light and city traffic, power is useless. 184 HP is enough for most drivers. Agree. Mazda 6 great car that stands out and it’s fun to own and drive. More exclusive
Lol this proves why you guys buy these school zone sliders
The Adventure Mazda. If thats the case then why are most Camrys and Accords sold the 4 bangers? V6 versions of either tend to make up single digit percentages of sales every year.
It is really unnerving to read people's comments like the will blow away the Mazda. Really? Even if it is a full second of difference in 0-60mph, so what? When does that matter? Are people testing every car they pull up next to at a light? With that mentality why buy anything other than the fastest car available? I want to get a new car that has a driver's dynamic that makes me enjoy driving the car every time I have to go somewhere. My current daily driver is a 2006 Mazda3, 5sp manual with a 2.0L NA engine. It is still fun to drive and comfortable and exciting when I want it to be. And you know what? I have never raced anybody in it! Know what else? It has never been in the shop for a repair! It has only 107k miles on it though! I am now considering the Mazda6 with the 2.5L NA engine and a 6sp manual. I am not sure that I don't want to buy a new Mazda3 and I am also unsure about all the new cars with the turbo motors. I am concerned about reliabilty and maintenance costs because I plan on keeping it for at least ten years.
Jobula powerful engine is not about ego, its about FUN! It's fun to accelerate quickly and feel yourself getting pushed against the seat. Yes, corners are fun but if the car is slow then that is just no fun. I mean, take the old Buick Grand National. It did not handle. BUT it was a rocket from 0-60 and that made up for it. But what about the mazda 6 with the SIX cylinder engine?! Is that slow as well??
The Mazda 6 is the only car of its category that actually make some turn my head when I see one. It just looks good. I'm not in the market for a new car, but if I was, this would be a top choice. I think mazda makes incredible designs, at least compared to Toyota or Honda cars that look boring or even kind of ugly (civic) to me.
I'm driving it for a year now and it is a pure joy... didn't really noticed any lack of power maybe BC i owned a bunch of V8 trucks before that?
imagne if mazda put a V6 in it and a 4WD system that would be Epic
Stas G. totally agree but IMO mazda should do somthing in order to compate. they did it back in 2009 with the ultra edition and it was a phenomenon
Turk sh They did
Europe --> wagon.... check..... turbo (diesel) ... check .... awd (option) ..... check
Ok the turbo diesel is only 175HP (for you 65mph max people ;-) ) But the thing is smooth and has more than enough torque to pull the asphalt from the ground and you'll probably have to refuel every 600 miles (yes, diesels are more fuel efficient)
And yes, I have been looking at almost any review which tend to be positive for every car, meaning biased in any way. Reading the owners opinions after a year or 2 years of owning it gives a much better knowledge of how happy owners are. To be honest they score high, even with a couple of faults in the beginning but all sorted out by a company that seems to care which also matters a lot to me. Still might buy it (shall I go for the awd, wagon and turbo one?)
Like a mazdaspeed 6? I think they did that last generation
It was a great car. I wonder why they didn't do one this generation.
I didn't buy it because A.) No AWD B.) No Mazdaspeed turbo variant.
Otherwise it's a very well made car, and the interior is gorgeous.
Hi ***** , I don't have a Mazda so I can't speak to reliability. I can tell you that my mother's 2016 CX-5 is on its second transmission (1st was defective), but overall appears to be made well. Depending on requirements and a 28K budget it's hard to beat a new WRX. That's what I went with and after 1 year and 26K it's been 100% solid.
Floyd Watt I drive a 2012 skyactiv 3 and have never once had a mechanical issue outside of electrical issue with the interior overhead lights (which still don't work). Other than that the only things I've had to do to were the regular maintenance stuff such as a new battery (which the factory battery lasted until 76k miles), having spark plugs replaced at 73k miles, having brake fluid replaced at 61.5k miles, and having the front brake pads replaced at 72k miles. The car has been great and a joy to drive over the last 3 and a half years
***** They did 100% with a loaner until it was done. Hybrids are good for city stop/go, but less for highway. Open road the batteries and electric motors are mostly dead weight and something like a Skyactiv 3 with a small 4-banger should return 40 mpg+ without the extra electric.
Va Vo it comes in AWD in eu
***** Lucky... We get royally screwed here in the US when it comes to getting the good stuff.
I never understood American's obsession with big engines in regular car. I mean this is a family saloon, not some race car, 8-9sec to 60 is perfectly acceptable in this type of car.
Paul Hojda merging and getting up to speed is pretty useful in a car that can hold 5 people
T.M.U.T Channel You can merge and overtake just fine with 180hp
That may be true but it's more of a mental thing for most people
What's wrong with wanting more power? The whole point of a car is do things quicker. If you truly adhered to your way of thinking, you'd be walking. A car is such a waste, isn't it?
Dependent on vehicle and personal taste.. most just drive from point A to point B, typical economy car, personally i love my truck at 390hp 410 lb ft of torque, zooms past people really well, sound of the V8 puts me in a much better mood, that goes with hill driving as well, its a chore for me to have a slower less horse power car, with the engine sounding like a lawn mower, V6 and up are typically a good note, off road worthy is another necessity
If they want to sell better, they need to bring back the Mazdaspeed6 as a competitor to the Accord V6, Camry V6, etc.
DC BigTurbo Too bad they never will, since they canceled the ms 3
DC BigTurbo Too bad they never will, since they canceled the ms 3
AcuraMatt B cx9 coming with a 2.5 turbo good for 250 on premium gas , im sure they could turn it up to 300+ and remake the speed3 and speed6 easily.
***** Yea i know that would be cool but sadly i dont think mazda wants to go fast anymore :(
From what I've seen/heard/read is that Mazda for the next few years is not even going to consider building fast cars. From what I've read, Mazda's head of production said in a press conference that the earliest we could see another mazdaspeed model here in the US would be in 2020 for the 2021 model year (and that's IF they even decide to continue the mazdaspeed legacy)
Have this exact same car/year model now. Got it at 17k miles three years ago. Zero problems so far and now I'm at a 103k miles. (A lot of Uber, lot of interstate miles, and a nice daily commute to work) I'd say aside from a Lexus ES 300, this is probably the most reliable car out there. Take care of it and these cars just keep going and going. Not fast but excellent on curves and handling. May wind up getting a new one with the turbo.
I recently bought one in soul red GT with the 19" stock mags.. what a beauty, I love the way it handles and drives. The built quality is just something Toyota drivers will never understand.
One of my exgirlfriends drove a CRV. I let her drive my 2015 6 and she said my 15 6 was fun to drive. I love driving my 6 too.
The Mazda 3/6 have been looking great for a few years now.
I've loved this car since it's intro, and just picked up a very nice used 2014 Touring model. Beautiful inside and out, and as everyone knows, rather sporty and great to drive in the twisties. 184 bhp, not winning all the drag races, but enough to have a little fun. I would guess most people shopping in this category are more concerned with a cushy ride, and a dang ol' v6, 'cause power makes more betterness and 4 cylinders is just worhtless! But some of us know they're missing the point. I can't afford a 5 series or E class, so the 6er is the best of the rest in m eyes. I also agree with you Roman, people just aren't as aware of Mazda as the other brands, their loss!
I just bought a 2017 Mazda 6 and I LOVE it. It handles superbly, is beautiful and has more than enough power.
They’re so underrated, I recommend Mazda 6’s to everyone after getting one
I have a 2014 Mazda 6, and Love It!! Right from the get go, that car has impressed me and still does. When I first got it, I had co-workers ask about it. Most had never seen it and all loved the look of it. Low, lean and wide, and it will move when pressed. I intend to keep this car for a while. All I can say is look at this car if you are considering this segment of the market, you will be impressed.
When my wife and I were in the market, the Mazda 6 was near the top of our list. I agree that the handling was the best in the class and it felt the lightest and most agile. We also loved the styling. For us, the lack of a V6 and the slightly slower acceleration did not bother us much.
However the deal breaker was usable space. Rear headroom and leg room is well behind the others in the class. Comfort in the back was unacceptable. It feels like being in a coffin.
But this is a drivers car. If it was just my wife and I, this is the car we would have bought. We are a family of 4 and we wanted our kids to be comfy and be able to stretch out. We ended up getting a Honda Accord V6 Touring and we loved it.
This is the by far best looking asian car in decades. It just looks greattt!
Bruningable asian? Bro its Japanesesu
@@fredo7482 Japan located within Asia, its time to get some education
I bought one new two years ago. Everyone still says to me, "Nice looking car!" It drives way better than the Accord and Camry.
The largest reason to me is the average consumer isn't informed. They go with the brand they are familiar with, much like they only buy Samsung tv's, or GE appliances....etc because that's what they are used to and that's what people around them suggest. Also, most drivers don't care about a car being driver-geared, they like a mute experience that makes driving calm and easy (think of all the complains the Ford Focus and Fiesta have for the dual clutch transmission not being smooth). Nothing wrong with all of that, but so many people must be very boring and lack personality. But I'm a car guy, so I see the world entirely differently than someone like that and they probably manage their finances really well lol.
Honestly... I think the reason why they don't sell more mazda6's is because of the dealer networks and lack of advertising. I don't think it has anything at all to do with the i4 under the hood. My reasoning: look at the sales numbers for the competitors, all of the other competitors have majority of their sales come from the 4 cylinder engine options. Camry sells twice the amount of 4 cylinders than they do the V6 versions, same with the Altima, and ALMOST the same for the Accord. The Accord sells a little less than twice the amount of four cylinders as they do six cylinders.
Tons of Mazda's here in OZ. Def way more pleasing to eye than any Toyota and equally reliable I've heard. After having a very negative experience with a VW (both car and service Dept) I just bought one of these - of the wagon variety in 'Soul Red' - can't wait!
This car with the Skyactiv 2.5 turbo and AWD would be the perfect midsize sedan.
Tyler Beeson In Europe the sw is an awd car.
Dealer network sucks and no one cares about sport driving. People want just to get from a to b reliably and cheaply. So they'll chose familiarity like Toyota or Honda and now Hyundai and Kia.
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ron s Bull
ron s You're right. Enthusiast only make up a small percentage of the market. The majority are going to stick with the aforementioned brands because to them they are synonymous with reliability and quality. Not to say Mazda don't make reliable and quality cars. They just don't market their cars well enough.
ron s This is pretty much it. Smaller dealer network and Mazda doesn't have that history of reliability in its corner either. Reviewers tend to think that raving about how sporty a car is will make a difference in its sales. News flash, it wont. Not in a segment where the majority of buyers care nothing about sports car reflexes.
ron s I suspect we will be back here next here wondering why the CX-5 hasn't dethroned the CR-V or why the Corolla and Civic are still kings.
Ive owned many cars in my life, and currently I own two mazdas. Most fun, reliable and cheap cars out there
Reasons why I don't think it sells well:
1) Maintenance cost is very high
2) One of the loudest interiors in the class. They remove a lot of sound deadening material in order to make the car light weight.
3) Terrible Dunlop tires that come with it from the factory. They are lousy in snow and the fact that the car is very light doesn't help much with traction in snow. (I live in the Northeast so this is important to many)
4) Narrow front seats that are only comfortable for more slim people. Not designed for the average American.
5) Cheap paint that chips easily. This is very sad given the fact that you pay extra for the premium colors.
6) Terrible visibility out the back and sides, the B pillar is a huge blind spot! (The blind spot monitor helps but the system tends to be over reactive). A sporty car like this should inspire confidence, having a car with poor visibility takes away driver confidence.
They already stated in the video,
7) No V6 option.
8) Small dealer network and limited rebate availability.
Now I don't personally own the car but was very interested in purchasing one. One of my good friends (who is a car enthusiast) and who owns a 2016 Mazda 6GT quickly talked me out of getting one for some of those main reasons. It's all just a hype that car reviewers have for this car in the class because it drives sporty and comes with a manual transmission. They clearly don't take in account what the majority of consumers want in a midsize sedan, which sadly the Mazda does not 100% deliver. I hope they address some of these cons in their future redesign because they do create beautiful cars.
Sean Reis you try doing basic stuff in Mazda's like changing the cabin air filter. in the Mazda 3 you have to take out the fuse panel. in a toyota or Honda you just drop the globe box down and 2 min later. .new air filter
Probably one of the reasons why maintenance cost for these cars is so high if you go to the dealership. The labor cost and time just to do the simplest things...
cabin air filter on the 6 takes about 2 minutes the first time. The only maintenance needed is oil changes. The car is hardly a high maintenance car.
Have 3 Mazdas in the family from different generations. The only thing I agree is they are not the best in terms of interior NVH. They have already acknowledged this as a major Achilles heel for the brand and have found a permanent fix for it and has committed to rolling out starting with the CX9 and new cx5. The maintenance cost is on par with the rest and the parts last far far longer for some reason. They are moving upmarket as a brand because they cannot compete with the big guys. The future of this brand is indeed exciting if the cx9 and new cx5 is anything to go by.
I never said the car was high maintenance, just said that the dealership maintenance costs (at least here in the Boston area) are expensive compared to something like a Accord or Camry. I understand that these costs will be much less if you do it yourself, but for the average midsize sedan owner the maintenance will be done at the dealership. For example, one dealership I looked up charged $1,162.85 for the 75k service! That's fine if it's like a Audi or BMW but for a Mazda that's ridiculous...
I do agree if the CX-9 and future CX-5 are hints at what's to come, then a lot of these issues will probably be fixed in the next generation Mazda6. I may even look into the CX-5 since it has AWD and may be available with a fuel efficient diesel engine. For someone like me that drives 25k miles a year (75% highway) then the fuel savings alone would at least make up for the maintenance costs.
Sorry, but for $34k, I'm not dealing with a 4 cylinder. The 6 has wonderful handling, best in class exterior and interior, but the engine is seriously lacking compared to the competition.
Completely agree, this car is waaay over-hyped.
+Mike Vita Have you driven one yet?
A 2015, not the 2017. Any mid sized sedan without a v6 offering is a waste of time, but that's just my own subjective opinion. I'm sure there are people out there who want the space, fuel economy and driving dynamics of the Mazda 6, but there is a reason these things aren't selling like the Accord and the Camry.
Mike Vita It's not because of it not having a v6. 80-90% of buyers in this segment don't care about power. The biggest problem with this car is that most buyers in this segment don't care or know anything about Mazda. They'd rather buy something they're familiar with like a Toyota or Honda. Mazdas have never been hot sellers in the US.
KentB27 I agree 100% but remember Hyundai was in the same position less than 10 years ago. Their marketing & warranty has helped them tremendously. Mazda should take note
Got my first Mazda 6 from 2006, haven't enjoyed the driving experience of another vehicle since, so I can imagine how great a newer version feels. Buying this car next week.
I own a 2011 with a v6. It is the first car that I've owned that is fun to drive, especially on curvy roads. Hugs corners and is just a blast to drive. The only reason I don't sell my 2011 and get a new one is the lack of a 6 cylinder engine. But they are just fun cars. Accord and Camry are boring compared to the Mazda6
My wife just got bought this car, 2017 Grand Touring version. What a fantastic car and it should be selling more, way more. Great drive experience, mileage, interior etc... I get the engine piece but after driving it around the hills in Oregon, it easily holds it own against the competition. Super happy on our end to have this car. Great review BTW
i got a 2016 touring and i love this car! the interior is the best IMO and it handles really nice. unfortunately most people will only blindly buy one brand
I bought a 2014 Mazda 6 Touring new. Now after 47K miles I still really enjoy it. After all that time I'm averaging 31.1 mpg in combined driving. The suspension is more taunt than others in the segment, and I personally really enjoy that connected feeling to the road. Here in the desert in Phoenix Az mine will do a sub 8 second 0-60. Yeah, its not a pocket rocket, but I've never been short of power for merging, and for an overall great driving experience, with a good looking car inside and out, I thought it was the best car in the segment for my needs.
I'd take it over the boring other options like Camry and Accord but I'm a Mazda fan.
VEVO AKJ it definitely is
So the answer to this question is “people are just dumb”. I started reviewing sedans like yesterday and Im already in love with this one. I think this car will be my first car purchase.
human always follow the trend
Kai Liu. But human also set the trend....
All I know is I love my 2016! The GT fully packaged is a sweet car. Only complaints is the stock tires they sell with it are LOUD and slip in the water dangerously too easy. Switched mine out after 20k miles thought and now I have 0 complaints.
Ppl buy far more 4 cylinder versions of Accords and Camrys than their v6 variants. Hell, a Hyundai Sonata doesn't have a V6 either yet it sells. V6 is NOT the problem. I do think they need a turbo charged variant for the GT models though
soiceyboy33 also Hyundai turbo4 is not that fast, because it's limited by the transmission. Mazda's high compression skyactive is quicker to respond, even with their automatics.
I wonder how much Mazda pay them to promote their car?😎
+Cornell Daniel FYI: the same amount Toyota paid you to post this comment.
OMG xDDDDD
The Fast Lane Car LOL ur da man
Right.... dude was trying to sell the hell out of this
The Fast Lane Car hagahahahahahahahahahahah
my favourite Japanese brand
I have the 2015 Mazda GS (mid trim). Picked it up in 2014 has about 82 thousand km. It's a fun car to drive! My family has been Toyota buyers for decades but we took a chance on the Mazda. There are neat little features that Mazda has that other regular class vehicles do not possess.
1. Auto lock when you walk away. I've grown accustomed to it and it really helps when you forget to lock your car
2. Blind spot monitoring has sound. Unlike the other makers, Mazda has a blind spot monitoring that chimes. It helps a whole lot when you are driving. 3.the blind spot has 1.5 car lengths in recognition. People may say that it is too much but it is not. The amount of times that blind spot monitoring picked up a speeding car that came out of nowhere saved my life.
4. The seats are 10way on the mid trim. Highest trim in other vehicles only have 8 way. 5.nothing can beat the driving dynamics of this vehicle in its price range. Handles amazing. Though there are good things about the vehicle there are also bad things. Paint is thin, scratches easily.
It's not selling as well as it should be because the typical consumer is brainwashed into thinking only Toyota and Honda are reliable
Bcomes Hate Toyota's. Had two in my life and honestly they make a great 4cyl that's it. Their interior game is trash, electronics- trash, ride quality- trash. I'd go Honda, Mazda, Hyundai, Toyota.
I actually think Mazda is doing very well by finding its own niche in an over saturated market. I'm a Mazda owner (owned 3 in my lifetime so far) and my parents are loyal Toyota fans for decades, there's nothing wrong with either brand, they both excel at pleasing the consumer segment they aim to please.
We wouldn't be having this discussion if Mazda puts that new CX-9 turbo engine and Skyactiv-D in this thing. The diesel would have this thing getting 55MPG hwy. Since we know the new CX-5 is getting the diesel, maybe Mazda gets smart and installs that engine in every car besides the Miata. Mazda is missing out.
It's not just about the increased horsepower of a V6, it's more about the quiet and smooth power delivery of such. The V6's from Toyota and Honda don't groan under acceleration and you don't need to give it huge throttle applications just to merge with traffic (lots of metered on-ramp lights near me mean you literally need to do 0-75 on a 10% very short distance ramp). The experience of the V6 makes the car feel more expensive than it really is.
Just took a look at the wagon. My wife would kill for THAT car.
Few con we found in this 2017 6 was, less cabin space, increased cabin noise, no Android/ Apple/Mirrorlink support, it took around 15 min for someone in the showroom to greet us in Memphis TN showroom.
It needs a V6 or twin turbo 4cyn, and it needs AWD.
GaynNovi or the engine from the new Mazda CX-9
GaynNovi buy a mazdaspeed6 than, I love mine
If you can find one that hasn't been thrashed. These things are 10+ model years old now.
DroverChicago i own one as well. found mine with 88000 miles and its an 06. was in good shape overall.
Parker Goslin I used to have one but got rid of it after getting a standard 6 with a V6 and 5spd manual. While obviously not as quick it proved to be a better overall driver's car -- lighter, less ponderous, more responsive to steering and braking inputs, etc. -- just more nimble. Ended up trading the Speed6 for a Lancer Ralliart because it was better for Chicago conditions -- easier to park, better low-end response for scooting into small gaps in traffic, much better AWD system for snow-belt driving, and a DCT that relieves me of having to step on a clutch pedal 50 times per mile, the novelty of which wore off long ago.
Mazda sales: proof that quality (based on automotive reviews) does not generate quantity
Why doesn't it sell? It is too foreign for most American buyers and the question of servicing, resale values & long term reliability vs. Toyota & Honda.
As for the "it lacks power" argument, 90% of Camrys & Accords are sold with a 4cyl engine. V6 make up a very small number of sales. A hybrid powertrain which is becoming ever increasingly common in midsize sedans would be nice, but Mazda is a relatively small firm with a small R&D budget.
Mazda also cannot afford to lose money on low margins with a V6. Fact is, Honda and Toyota make very little money on their V6 Accords and Camrys compared to the I4s, as does the dealer. Hence, you only find a couple on the lots, with salesmen hounding you to buy the I4 version and walking away from you in disgust when you tell them you want to special order one. The V6 versions are loss leaders frankly.
Just bought one on Saturday. I was looking at the usual suspects in this class, and to be honest...the Mazda wasn't even on my radar. I stumbled upon it in a video review, and fell in love with the looks. I test drove the Camry, Accord, Altima and Fusion and it wasn't even close (to me at least). Best looks, most fun to drive, lowest price, best fuel economy...it was a no brainer for me, and also my wife. She won't be driving it, so she would usually just say to pick the one I like the best, but she was definitely opinionated toward the 6
Sexiest midsize sedan on the road. Love my 2015 mazda6
the kia and the fusion looks good too
Reason why I didn't get one was because of the power. I do love the interior and I really like the exterior styling. It's just slow. Ended up with an accord touring coupe for the same price and it's a much more fun car to drive imo.
That being said I wouldn't mind picking one up second hand that's a few years old to use for uber or just any other task where I don't need the v6 power as much as I need the mpg and comfort and styling the mazda6 has to offer.
There were going to release the Turbo Diesel in the US, and kept saying it was coming for like 3 years. It never came people bought other options. I had a friend that really wanted one and the dealer even said it would be in within a few months..a year later he bought a BMW diesel because he figured they lied.
Merp when the vw diesel scam came along they decided not to build a diesel because they did not want to be in the scam
Brad Motors3 They wouldnt have to worry, just dont put a VW diesel in it and dont fake their results. (unless that was their plan since they claimed they did not need urea either)
Basically if you need diesel to pass EPA standards you have to use the DEF fluid.
Well I would say that it is likely the importer and not Mazda itself. The weird stuff I've seen here in Europe even with EU designed and made cars is just crazy. An example is a electrical heated front window to de-ice which we can't from VW when 20miles further in Holland it can be ordered without an issue. Even warranty for VW we can only get 2 years while 60 miles further in Germany you pay a fixed price for 4 years. It all depends on the importer it seems.
I've driven the touring turbo diesel 6 and it had some serious pulling power. Seems they are not cheating on the exhaust pollution from what I've heard. Very low compression diesel and the petrol seems to be extremely high compression. It was the most refined diesel 4 cylinder I've driven and I would have bought one with the blink of an eye if not for my last paragraph.
I've test driven the 2 liter petrol touring last Monday and it was ok, 163hp is enough to do double your speedlimits. Ok I missed the torque of my 105hp, kid you not, 1.9TDI but I guess for regular use it is more than fast enough. The gearbox was a joy so I think when you occasionally can get the wife and kids out of the car you can get a nice high rev'ing engine that is still more than fast and capable enough.
Unfortunately here in Europe they are now punishing people who buy diesels by doubling the road tax and making cities low emission with certain Euro norms. For example a 2004 Golf diesel euro 3 will be not allowed into the city I live in starting next week. A 1994 Jaguar 4.8L v8 petrol will still be allowed.
That is also the reason why you see 1l 3 cylinder turbo engines with 115hp etc developed just because they have to because of the getting stricter EU norms. Good for leasing cars and making politicians happy that they made more ecological cars but not for the buyer that wants to buy a car that lasts. And yes look at the process of making a new car it pollutes more than keeping a good car for 15 years that pollutes a bit..
Cars , taxes and fuel prices , you guys should come to Europe and you'll be happy to live in the US.
Test drove the 6 Sport with the manual, and I love it very much. Excellent ride, handling, and performance, plus it looks incredible. Trading my Focus in for one.
I'll tell you why it's the slowest selling car.. For one there's no dealership. There's a Honda, Toyota, subaru, hyundai, and gm probably more all in my city besides Mazda.
seems like you are living in a tiny village
I just rented one of these and drove it 600 miles. Great gas mileage and drives very well. In sport mode it has plenty of power and speed. Realistically how much power and speed does one need in a daily drive on city streets? It looks better than the accord and camry. I am liking this Mazda and the VW Passat. But as an Audi A4 owner I know the VW will be in the shop more. The only thing about the Mazda I didn’t like were the brakes. The car I rented had 29k miles and the steering wheel would shudder when hitting the brakes at freeway speeds if I pressed them medium hard. Overall I really like the car though.
I would buy that over the altima. and brand loyalty does play a big part in it. I'm a Toyota guy and do admit the cars are a bit behind but I trust Toyota because of all the cars I've owned never let me down.
Also I think Mazda track record was tarnished when they paired up with ford back in the day, even though they still do have ford parts. They are slowly getting away from using so much Ford parts.
I can't decide if I want to buy the new Mazda3 or Mazda6 , either with the 2.5l manual transmission. I currently own 1 2006 Mazda3 with 2.0l manual transmission and is truly enjoyable to drive. I don't want a new car with a turbo motor or with CVT drivetrain. I have never driven the Mazda6 but will try one out. Just for notice, Honda is not going to offer the Accord with a V6 motor or the sport coupe anymore and all you can get is the 1.5l or 2.0l turbo motors unless you go hybrid. Camry still offers the V6 in their new model with a 8sp automatic but no manual option.
thought I was playing Kerbal for a second there
I have owned my 2017 Mazda 6 2,5L 192 horsepower Optimum (with every bit of accessory added on ;-) ) station wagon for a little over a month now, and I'm still sad when I arrive at my destination because then I have to get out of my car. I am that much in love with it! Everything about it is just so fantastic. Seriously: my biggest complaint has to do with how the song list is displayed when I want to switch to another file on my USB. That's how flawless this car is.
wow how ironic. in Europe and Australia it's the best selling mid size car in its segment and our 2.5lt is turned for high hp. the v6 argument is so old school.
WogsRus1 I disagree with the argument myself but there is pretty much no replacement for displacement to most Americans which sucks
JDMSteven agree. I had a 6 now have a sp25 Mazda 3 and it's one of the best small hatches to drive and lean on. funny how in the USA the dealer networks gets a bad wrap where as here in Oz it's one of if not the best.
WogsRus1 there's just not enough around sadly, the yota runs this segment with the Accord hot on its tail
Hands down the most beautiful car in the segment. After driving this car for the last 3 years, I can say that it's great. Aside from the looks, the other real positive is the ride. It's a firm ride, but NOTHING at all what I expected when I first drove it. It's actually the perfect balance between performance and comfort. The initial stroke of the suspension is actually comfortable and perfectly tuned. It's the part that soaks up the ripples, asphalt changes, manhole covers, etc. It's actually plush, and surprisingly comfortable. But the rest of the suspension is firm to allow composure and stability when pushed for performance. I find it to be the perfect balance, and it's definitely not the sloppy/floaty suspension that you sometimes find in this segment. Aside from the looks and ride, everything else is great, too. Engine, transmisson, brakes, AC, noise, and comfort. Even the doors have a perfectly tuned clunk/thud when closed, even slammed. Zero complaints from me.
I owened a 2014 grand touring , and I can tell you right now that it was a hell of alot faster from 0-60 than 9.4 seconds .
I get 7.2 - 7.5 routinely using a gps timer at 2000 feet above sea level.
Robert Snyder He turned off tc.
That's what the car is rated for too (7.4 - 7.5).... I mean my gosh my 9 year old 6 is around 7.8. You can't tell me it takes 8.5 seconds to get this car 0-60. Stop driving it like a grandma.
These cars were meant to be revved. In my '08 6 I can drive around doing 60 MPH in 2nd gear, and I've still got room before I get to the redline. That's how it's supposed to be driven. Even with an automatic, switch it over into manual mode, and take control of your ride!
Robert Snyder because he was above sea level.. pay attention to what he said.
Yeah kinda weird, my Mazda 2 1.5 skyactiv g can go to 0-60 in 8.8 seconds. That's in sea level tho.
Honestly, when I was in the market 2 years ago, I was looking at the Mazda 6, the Altima, and the Accord. Before driving any, I favored the Mazda 6. On driving the Mazda I felt like I had to be too heavy on the throttle to get it moving. Feel or reality, that was my perception. Also I felt like the Mazda wasn't well planted, felt like it had a high center of balance. Everything else I liked on the Mazda. In the end I went with a 4 cylinder Accord.
me personally it's the lack of v6 or a turbo 4. Otherwise very excellent car
i have a white 2016 mazda 6 and it is the best car i have ever owned. i have driven 50 000 miles in 14 months and it has never experienced one single problems. built like a tank. the gas mileage i get with this thing is incredible. sometimes more than 48 mpg's on the highway. i have averaged 33,6 mpg's on the entire 50 000 miles. it looks good and is very agile too. the steering is very communicative for such an affordable car.
Nearest dealer is 4 hours away :(
Currently Mazda has a great deal on the touring. You should get the sunroof/bose package for $1325 and now the touring premium package for $1425. The latter includes LED daytime running lights; LED headlights with auto leveling; Adaptive front-lighting system; Auto-dimming interior mirror; Homelink; Auto-dimming driver's side exterior mirror; Heated side mirrors; Leather trimmed seats; 8-way power driver's seat with power lumbar support. Show me someone offering so much equipment for this money. Now there's a $2000 rebate available as well.
It doesn't sell because Mazda refuses to offer power/performance options that can keep up with their competition.
They are a small volume seller, they cannot diversify so much as their competitors as it would not be financially viable. Thats one reason the Mazdaspeed 3 only sold in i spec, MT hatchback.
Armesis P That's not a legitimate excuse. Mazda has lost their way. They gave up "zoom zoom" and took up tree-hugging eco garbage. Nobody wants a "sports sedan" that only offers a shitty and slow NA 4-cylindar as its only option. I honestly hope they really get fucked in their sales so they are forced to make a change.
I own this car! My car is white, solid black interior, tinted windows---2017 Mazda 6 Grand Touring. It is awesome! The only reason I can think of as to why it doesn't sell more is there is not as much advertising as with comparable sedans. This gorgeous, 2017 Mazda 6 comes standard with your speed along with speed limit signs from the road reflected right inside the windshield! I read up on this car before purchasing, and found out it is the safest car on the road! It's super fun to drive, and has a great pick up for a 4 cylinder. When I went on my test drive, I was impressed with the pickup, however it was a little under my Hyundai Genesis Coup with a 6 cylinder that I had to lay to rest in a junk yard due to flooding in my area. After expressing my concern about settling for a 4 cylinder from a 6 cylinder, even though this car with Skyring Technology" was comparable, my salesman surprises me and says, "well, this car is equipped with a sports mode"! so he reaches down and flips on the sport mode, and I took off even faster and much smoother than my old Hyundai Genesis! At that moment I was SOLD! Still driving this as of today, but planning on moving up to the Mazda 6 Coup when it comes out (fingers crossed) in September of 2017. Mazda makes some very nice cars.
Its definitely cooler than a Toyota Camry.
I have 2016 mazda6 as a commuter and I cannot be happier. I appreciate the sporty steering and handling, nice interior and great fuel Econ. Don't need anymore power. Got another sports car to get in trouble. It's not the purpose of this car.. I believe in mazda and its philosophy. Continue on this trajectory and they will be on par with Toyota and honda in a few years.
It needs a bigger engine choice. There's no Turbo 4 or V6. Other than that, it's Nice!
derek webster I'm hoping mazda places the cx9 engine in as an upgrade
I think a big part of the problem, at least up here in the Great White North, is that you can get a fully loaded Mazda 3 with the same engine for significantly less money. I went from a 6-cylinder Mazda 6 to the high end Mazda 3 because it was at least as much fun to drive as the 6 and a lot cheaper. Better gas mileage as well.
The 6 gran touring come with trim lights and im a 22 yo male i dont want a compact car
I drive a Mazda 6 and it's awesome! :))
Bought this and a Cx9 the same day. Wife and I are very happy with our purchases.
Because Mazda talks about driving experience but can't find it in themselves to bring back Mazdaspeed.
Also, there's something called forced induction.
Mihaly Lukacs how reliable are Mazda? Is it true that they are pricy to maintain and repair?
Sandy Ban it depends on what model you are talking about. the ford partial ownership era should be relatively cheap since parts were shared between the two. clutches for certain performance models are relatively expensive. clutches for Mazdaspeed6s are around 400 bucks.
I have a Mazda touring 2016, and believe me it zoom zoom without hesitation. Started with 2001/mazda 626es/ had for 11years, Mazda 3/2014 touring for 2 years. Mazda all the way. Plus the style is eye catching.
Sharom Fordham I've read on here that Mazda are more pricey to maintain and repair plus very rare to find a Mazda mechanic
+1 for music from Kerbal Space Program!
Sten Jørgen Pettersen really?
Hey Yey You'll hear it at roughly 0:35...
I've had 3 Mazda cars in my life, and none of them have ever disappointed me in all aspects. I currently have a 2017 Mazda CX-3, a gorgeous looking CUV that is easily the best in its class. Mazda cars look luxurious, feel luxurious and drive like a luxurious car. Mazda should be placed among luxury cars because it is THAT great. Don't just take my word for it, test drive one for yourself. Among the Japanese giants, I truly believe Mazda is the best.
Under powered, FWD, no manual, and expensive. Change one of those and the rest would be fine.
Blake Swan it comes in manual in all trims.
thisisnalin not the gt trim
In Japan, they provide AWD, manual gearbox. And it is slow in straight line acceleration, but good in track (compare to same class).
Honestly, if it was offered in rwd it would have no competition. I would buy that. Not just internet talk. An affordable rwd sedan with a manual? All I want.
You can get a manual on lower trims
I love Mazda 6. I switched from Toyota to mazda6 in 2006 and never looked back. Big difference and cannot compare. Once you go Mazda6 you never go back! The 2014 upgrade was amazing and I'm on my 3rd brand new Mazda!! Waiting for the 2018 upgrade :)
Mazda should put that motor in the MX-5.
bought a used 2015 6 gt fully loaded for 22k with 32k miles. best sedan for the money. not fast, but loves the twistys. love the LED, HID headlamps, Bose stereo, good brakes. love the styling. had it about a year and i still look back at it when i walk away.
Needs a stronger engine
Roman I own a 2015 Mazda 3 hatchback and love it. Watching this you make me wanna upgrade to the 6. It's an awesome car. I don't think it's the engine, 184hp is plenty of power. It's the dealer network. Go Mazda!
34k and no v6 no money that's why I bought an accord touring fully loaded. for 34 k
How has the Accord been so far? What model is it?
I also have the Touring V6 model the 2016 and I love it and get a lot of compliments on it!
Miguel Garcia Mazda should do a turbo
I've got a 2011 Mazda 6 V6, in blue, and I love it! It's got a very nice sound at higher rpms, and it's very quick-you'll surprise a lot of people when you pass them or get into a highway drag (no it's not gonna beat a v8 muscle car or a Porsche, but it does hold its own pretty damn good). I can attest that it gets to 60 right at 6 seconds, but the best part is the 60-100...there's no lull or reduction in power all the way across the spectrum, a very even acceleration. It'll go 132mph, speed limited by an electronic governor. I've had it to that speed on more than one occasion, and it'll sit at about 4,500 rpms at that speed so if the limiter was removed then it potentially could hit 150mph. The size of the car is larger than a mid-size sedan but under a full-size. I especially love the flared front fenders which share the design characteristic of the last RX-8 model. My mom used to have an '04 Mazda 6 V6 (also in blue!) and it handled very well as does this one. Downsides for the car are: significant understeer especially when cornering, road/wind noise is atrocious, gas mileage...SUVs get better than mine (I have a lead foot though but average about 21mpg), lots of rattling plastic parts in the interior-had to stuff a paper towel wad near the back window underneath the roof panel to stop that noise there. It's a great car, but there's room for improvement. I'd like to see: better noise insulation, a turbo on the 3.7L V6, all wheel drive, & better build quality involving the cheap plastics and the rattling. My moms owned 4 Mazdas that I grew up with and I've owned 3 so I don't think I'll be changing brands anytime soon, but I sure as hell am not going back to a 4-banger, and before anyone says that the 4 cyl with a turbo is equivalent, consider that that's compared to a naturally aspirated V6, a turbo 4 cyl vs a turbo V6 is no comparison-the V6 will smoke the 4.