Thanks for taking the time to post this review. I am a huge steel bike fan and owner. I’ve been looking at this bike or the Space Horse as a stop gap while I wait, eternally it seems, for a Ritchey to come available, my third Ritchey. Thanks again!
@@BlackWaterCyclist I ended up pulling the trigger on a Lynskey Helix Pro disc bike. Almost the same price and electronic shifting. I also upgraded the wheels. Pretty happy. I almost purchased the zig zag. Good bike for the money!
You need to size down on All city bikes since all their bikes have a top tube that is longer than the equivalent frame size from other manufacturers. Look at the reach, top tube and stack height measurements before you order your size
This bike is confusing. Braze on for DT shifters and a hole for DiII wires? Alloy box section rims would soften up ride, reduce cost, but maybe add weight. External routing for rear brake hose, why. That fork, they used to have a nice fork that wasn't harsh on the discontinued Mr Pink, rim brakes though. Would like to know who QBP thinks is going to buy this.
I feel the same way, it just seems like it is trying to be several bikes in one but is not doing well on either front. QBP in the past has spec'd bikes with old stock they had and caused some people to wonder if they have these brands just to unload their outdated inventory.
There's always some nut who needs to have every option. I don't have the cheddar but if I did get a frame like this I'd probably build it with 9 speed Ultegra and DA downtube shifters. I don't know why anyone would compare this to a Giant ir a Specialized. They're not even steel.
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Yes a steel fork would be better ride quality but unfortunately if this is an endurance road bike they weight weenies will scream bloody murder. The Space Horse has the steel fork
Thanks for taking the time to post this review. I am a huge steel bike fan and owner. I’ve been looking at this bike or the Space Horse as a stop gap while I wait, eternally it seems, for a Ritchey to come available, my third Ritchey.
Thanks again!
Great video, my boss rides this bike and loves it. He enjoys it since it has the old school looks with the new school feel.
Thanks for the review. I just picked up a 55cm in Honeydew Bling. Not my first choice in color but the price was right. It looks amazing in person!
Thank you for a clear review, I'm stuck between the Zig Zag and Nature Cross SS
Thanks for the fantastic review, I am toying with this bike or the cosmic stallion TI. I love to get back to a steel bike for endurance riding.
Thanks! If you get carbon bars or suspension stem, it will ride like a dream. Have you pulled the trigger on one yet?
@@BlackWaterCyclist I ended up pulling the trigger on a Lynskey Helix Pro disc bike. Almost the same price and electronic shifting. I also upgraded the wheels. Pretty happy. I almost purchased the zig zag. Good bike for the money!
Why'd they discontinue these beautiful paint jobs!
You need to size down on All city bikes since all their bikes have a top tube that is longer than the equivalent frame size from other manufacturers. Look at the reach, top tube and stack height measurements before you order your size
Great advice, I appreciate it.
Love mine.
What size is this ?
It is a 58
This bike is confusing. Braze on for DT shifters and a hole for DiII wires?
Alloy box section rims would soften up ride, reduce cost, but maybe add weight. External routing for rear brake hose,
why. That fork, they used to have a nice fork that wasn't harsh on the discontinued Mr Pink, rim brakes though.
Would like to know who QBP thinks is going to buy this.
I feel the same way, it just seems like it is trying to be several bikes in one but is not doing well on either front. QBP in the past has spec'd bikes with old stock they had and caused some people to wonder if they have these brands just to unload their outdated inventory.
I used to have an A/C I never got along with the geometry and sold it.
There's always some nut who needs to have every option. I don't have the cheddar but if I did get a frame like this I'd probably build it with 9 speed Ultegra and DA downtube shifters.
I don't know why anyone would compare this to a Giant ir a Specialized. They're not even steel.
52-36 chainring it’s not a compact chainring.
You got me on that one. Semi compact is what we used to call them.
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Carbon is a very stiff material. Especially in such a chunky fork. A curved steel fork would be smoother.
Yeah carbon can be made to be compliant but this fork is far from it. I agree, if you are going retro, just go with the steel fork.
Yes a steel fork would be better ride quality but unfortunately if this is an endurance road bike they weight weenies will scream bloody murder. The Space Horse has the steel fork
The BB looks close to the floor