Yeah House Stark are no oath breakers. They know who the real Queen is. Can't wait to see who they cast as Cregan Stark. In the books all the other lords are terrified of him and obey every order
@@Oakland510 Loyalty goes both ways. I personally love this public viewing bar project. Sean created a like minded community, a little happy place, in his corner of the world. What more can you ask for in life really?
It’s simple, people were not sure which twin he was 😂. Nah but seriously yeah it’s impressive and also how he got Rhaenys out too. They likely would’ve killed her if she didn’t support Aegon ii.
Drama Kings of HoTD: Daemon and Caraxes. I just love how Caraxes always pops up from nowhere after Daemon finishes his dramatic speech and they just stare down. Generaly they have such good conection
I've always liked the idea that the Dragons have almost identical personalities to their first riders they bonded with. Makes alot of sense when you consider how similar Caraxes and Daemon are, but compare that to say Aemond and Vhagar, who's relationship seems more like Vhagar is only allowing Aemond to ride her but they don't seem as linked as Daemon and Caraxes.
I literally broke at poor baby Visenya, I watched the first part of this episode through tears. Emma showed pain and grief at it’s deepest form for a mother.
@@SogonD.Zunatsu we know its just a show but the subject is hurtful for viewers such as mothers and anyone who lost a child so u commenting "Lol" for it didnt make u cool at all, ur just a hypocrite who thinks uve seen it all
In the beginning of the episode you can see how Rheanyra’s & Daemons connection to their dragons are not rational but emotional (her still birth and Daemon’s loyalty test the dragons reacted to their emotional states) It would so seem that A dragon rider should not worry about ruling the dragon but ruling themselves Aemond’s rage and Lucaerys fear is what the dragons reacted to and thus the tragic outcome.
@@Oakland510 it’s never mentioned anywhere that Daemon is a Dragonlord. And while Targaryen’s are considered a Dragonlord house they were not a very powerful one and lacked much of the sorcery and relics used by the true Dragonlords of the freehold. Aenar Targaryen is the last person to be officially named a Dragonlord even though Aegon the conqueror referred to himself as one.
@@yseson_ it doesn’t have to be mentioned officially. If you connect t the dots and read between the lines of all of George’s works, you’ll see daemon meets the conditions
"Tf is that?!" by Daemon was hillarious and honestlly most of the people reactions to that paper scene. No one cared at that point And "I would rather feed my sons to the dragons than have them carry shields and cups for your drunken usurper cunnt of a king" is iconic line now lol
truth be told being king's squire and cupbearer for nephews of younger age would be a huge honor (like if you were the assistant of US president) and grooming them for leadership, perhaps seat on the small council or in future hand of king to Aegon's successor, but of course not in this kind of situation
@@yasmina3999 I would have to disagree, there’s no evidence of that. She never once threatened Alicents children it was Otto sowing seeds with Alicent that created that narrative
It's great how they show the level of control different characters have over their dragons. While daemon and rhaenys use their dragons as if they were extensions of themselves characters like luce and aemond still have very little control over their dragons.
none of them have control. it's an illusion. They listen to them to an extent. It's more like they are bond with their riders and they can feel whatever they feel
I think Luke didn't have much control over Arrax because of the circumstances, it was storming and Arrax and Luke were both terrified so the dragon acted in self-defense and Vhagar is the one of the oldest dragons and has went through battle A LOT so I feel she has more of a mind of her own
@@jordanzdebski5132 yeah exactly i'd say some riders who have a stronger bond with their dragon has more control / their dragon feels what their rider feels more which allows the dragon to act in the best interest of its rider
What's that old Viserys saying "the idea that we control the dragons is an illusion". When you controlled one dragon, like we seen many times, it's different, it's like training one dog. But what Viserys is saying is when there's more them one dragon, either when they are nipping at each other or fighting, then you are at their mercy. It's like holding one dog on a lease, the dog is fine, another dog comes, and they're both barking at each other, and Arrax was that other dog, he didn't like being chased and intimidated by a bigger dragon, and Vhagar doesn't like a little dragon spitting fire at her, so it's like 2 dogs going at each other while the owners are pulling and tugging on their leashes.
"Queen Rhaenyra Targaryen, First of Her Name, Queen of the Andals and the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lady of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm." The crown fits her perfectly 🖤
@@Aditya1998pandey FACTS. With rhaenys/daemon/aemond on the throne, history would be so united that once night king wakes up, westeros would have fcked night king in his arse.
@@Aditya1998pandey Rhaenys the subway bomber Daemon the unstable sociopath Aegon the debauched loser Rhaenyra the irresponsible brat The only person fit to be king is Aemond (going by the show's canon)
What Rhaenyra went through in one day is more convincing as a descent to madness than what Daenerys did. But I guess it doesn't matter now. Happy to see the bar flooded again like the old days. 😊😏😏
Lol is it fuck. Dany, who was sold and beaten for most of her early life by her brother - then her husband and baby were both murdered - then when she finally got home, a place where she dreamed of being was met sheer hatred. Her dragons were killed, her loyal protector died in her arms, Jon rejects her, the north rejects her after she saved them. Then her best friend is beheaded in front of her....... Yeah Rhae hasn't suffered anywhere near what Dany did.
Kind of. Rhaenyra isn't mad...yet. She indeed suffers more than anyone should if life were fair, but, these incidents are the precursor. Something else....happens and that is what breaks her. Daenerys was gradual as well. She didn't just flip in episode five. Keep in mind since coming to Westeros Dany lost Viserion, Jorah, Rhaegal and Missandei. That's a lot. Also keep in mind that Rhaenyra has a support system and as those around her dwindle in numbers, so does her sanity. Daenerys lost the little she had almost overnight. This is why I say that people saying Daenerys would never do what she did are missing the point a bit because honestly, how would we know? That theory was never tested. When the chips are down and you have nothing left to lose sometimes the worst thing you can think of is the very thing you do.
@@janellejulianajoy No one serious says Daenerys wouldn't have done the things she did at the end. People were saying the last season was extremely sped up because they needed to end the show in 6 episodes. Take everything that happened in the final season and stretch it out for 2 full season, make the NK and WW the real enemy and not Cersei and the series would've ended just fine. There is also a lot more that is wrong with the final season but I don't want to get into that here.
@@GreenFalcon926 I think the issue is the way the screenwriters made it happen. It didn't FEEL convincing, even if it could have based on previous events throughout the series. Whereas this episode is written SO well, that everything feels justified in playing out the way it does.
This is why I enjoy watching these. I myself wouldnt wanna be there because I wouldn’t hear anything, because someone’s always yelling for just about anything, but I can watch this after watching the show by myself.
I’m so glad I got to watch the HOtD season one finale at The Burlington bar! I got the chance to be in Chicago during the season finale and I couldn’t have asked for a better way to cap off season one. It was so great to meet a couple of the regular watchers and stick around for the podcast recording. Thank you Morgan, Sean, Emile, and everyone at the bar for creating such a wonderful way to get together! I’ll do my best to be back here for season 2!! ❤
I don't think this quote should be taken entirely true.. yes the dragons still have a mind on their own and free will but I do believe a dragon rider's bond can be so strong with a dragon, the dragon will act on their rider's emotions/feelings-- for example, Syrax and Rhaenyra's bond is said to be extremely strong and she's the youngest person to ever ride a dragon
@@Divine_Chareka lord y’all are so dumb is hilarious. You gonna quote this for the next decade like y’all have been with the every time a Targaryen is born the gods flip a coin like only 5 of them went mad y’all are so ridiculous
@@elleddiana Even Dany didn't have any control over her Dragons most of the time when they were adults..Drogon wanted to do, what Drogon wanted to do..
women's reaction and emotion was totally different than the guys during the miscarriage scene. guys are grossed out and uncomfortable. The women are sad, sympathetic, hurt. it's interesting. such a subtle difference but watch folks face and body language. very interesting
That might be what, besides Emma's acting, makes that scene so great. When you flip it back to episode 3, the men were cheering at war and battle and death in larger score than the women in the bar, who seemed entertained but had a hard time swallowing the gore. It's crazy to think they can watch a man get cut in two with a sword easier than they can watch a woman give birth, but both sides can be intrigued and empathize after everything we went through with Rhaenyra. A lot of the men winced and cringed, but I think the bravest of the bunch didn't dare to look away. The girls didn't blink. This is why crowd stuff like this is so cool imo
Daemon was on fire this episode, he was on auto pilot, ready to retake the throne for his family. He was awesome. Rhaenyra was also flawless. Her strength, resilience, restraint, and poise. Definitely the ruler, the realm needs. Both together, perfect balance to run the Kingdom. Unfortunately, their first task is to fend off a coup, and of course they find each other at odds. Under more normal circumstances, I have no doubt they would work it out behind closed doors, but the level of stress, tension, grief, anger; it’s just too much. Under this circumstances I believe Daemon is more experience and he is correct about having to be swift and merciless with people like Otto and Alicent. He doesn’t care about prophecies. Rhaenyra, on the other hand, should find more resolve to fight for her claim, knowing that only she carries that prophecy.
@@moondra3481 Where? I think he said his son's will not be cupbearers and shield carriers, the positions Otto promised for his sons. Rhaeynras sons were promised Dragonstone and Driftmark
Maybe it’s just me, but I preferred when there were less people in the bar the last couple of weeks. It was nice to see new faces and old ones from the GoT days, and also it was refreshing to not hear screaming over every little thing.
@@andrewbanks6873 definitely the lady behind the one with the black & white hair. Did the same thing for the GoT reactions and it’s annoying. The previous reactions for this season were sooooo good because it felt genuine and people were actually paying attention, so this one kinda threw me off
When Otto said that Aegon the Younger could be squire and Viserys could be his cupbearer, I was like "oh hell no" lmao. Also not some people cheering when the baby fell out of Rhaenyra.
@@ken-yo2hz Honestly good for them at least they could laugh, I was so disgusted I had to take a half hour break before I could watch that shit again! Fukcing HBO...
I've never read the book, so I didn't know that baby Visenya would die, so I was cheering for Nyra at the birth scene, but when I noticed the baby didn't make it, I started crying. Maybe it's the same case with those at the bar.
That's what these reactions were known for. Their epic GoT videos. Been watching them for years. The channel will be glad this series exists to bring back their views lol.
He knows her better than that, those aren't balls of steel. It would be dishonourable to kill him while he was sending the message from the Queen. But still a few second later Renyira comes with a dragon behind them, steps on the bridge and crosses through them.
@@peolfpetler8500 It is balls of steel in this case because Rhaenyra can't really control Daemon -and Daemon would have no compunctions with killing Otto.
@@420cm She told Tyrion about Jon's true birth, to throw a wrench in Dany's plan and have everyone support Jon instead, this causing a wedge between the two.
Rhaenyra is really the rightful heir, she's not rushing to war, considering all consequences, keeping the peace as much as possible, that is why Daemon is frustrated. Daemon is hyped up for war. He lives for that shit.
She's being illogical tho , daemon is right war is unavoidable, It's either war or rhaenyra surrender her throne, there's no 3rd option, So daemon is 100 % right
@@spunkymaniac9312 more reason why he's not a king. Rhaenyra is holding down the fort just like what rhaenys told to corlys. Rhaenys closely watches rhaenyras actions and that's why they sided with rhaenyra in the end
@@spunkymaniac9312 Daemon was being impulsive. Why would they go to war when they don't even know wh their allies are ? And didn't even bother to do some politicking with people who may and my not be loyal to their oaths. I'm rooting for the black queen, but I wouldn't be surprised if Otto outplayed them.
@@spunkymaniac9312 “I made a promise to my father to hold the realm strong and united. If war's first stroke is to follow, it will not be by my hand.” - Rhaenyra
@@spunkymaniac9312 She wasn't being illogical. She was preparing for war but not engaging it, which is the ideal. Daemon wanted to rush to war because HE was being emotional, since he thought his brother was murdered. He was angry and being impulsive. Rhaenyra was the one who kept her head cool, considered the risks and acted as a true ruler should.
Can we agree that one lady is 4 degrees to the wind and hurting ear drums? It be nice to watch, really enjoy watching others perspectives. Personally because of loud intoxicated peeps, it's at home with close friends for me with a drink in hand.
I think they expected the baby to be alive, so they cheered for rhaenyra for getting the baby out. But I agree maybe they should not have clapped if they don't know what's gonna happen next. We already learned this in GOT when clapping lmao 😅
What Otto didn’t know is the King only passes the knowledge of the Song of ICE and FIRE prophecy and dagger inscription to its heir. People clap when they heard Syrax’s noise approaching the bridge. Nice! 😅😅👏🏽👏🏽
true!! the dagger and prophecy are really the main point of this whole ordeal in westeros which only the true rightfully heir possessed ( THE SONG OF ICE AND FIRE ) The real enemy is behind the wall.
@@LucerysOwner Bro how can anyone love Otto or ser Christian or Egon. Alisse is the only one likeable there, but even she had some questionable decisions. Aemond seemes cool, but still we got to see his true nature and ambitions.
@@peolfpetler8500 I think its less people like any of them and more that they hate Rhaenyra, Daemon, and the Blacks. Whether its because their fans are so obnoxious, or because they get away with so much BS to the point that people want to see them die already, it depends. Personally speaking, I am technically Team Black but I also want to see Rhaenyra's Strong boys get eaten so her trueborn can take over. Those boys are nothing but trouble.
connection between daemond and caraxes is really strong u know without saying any word from daemon caraxes comes it s like that carexes understand what daemond wants whithout saying anything.unlike aemon dand luke who lake this connection .the best relation btw a rider and a dragon is deamon and caraxes
@asgkasgasi I don't know if they will make his connection to Sunfyre that deep though, they literally have never shown him with this dragon and only ever showed him to be a drunken rapist, his coronation was the perfect time to show it and yet they wasted an opportunity on a senseless scene with Rhaenys. Also Aegon was perfectly fine with just sailing away never to be seen again and leave Sunfyre in the dust.
@asgkasgasi let's also consider that GRRM said that this series needs at least 5 (6?) Seasons in order to tell the whole Dance of the Dragons story. He said the same with GOT (that the series needs at least 10 seasons) but obviously they didn't listen to him and look what happened with that series. So there's a possibility that they will show the connection between Sunfrye and Aegon in the series.
Well, if it wasn't obvious from the video of the final battle, it is very clear here who knows what is going to happen (I'm just over a min in). Great to see the bar packed out again. During lockdown we might have binged watched everything, but there is something special about watching something together. PS Guys. Having babies is really f-ing hard. Even now. Respect to moms everywhere.
Imagine when Dalton “the Red Kraken” Greyjoy comes into the fray. So much story left, I hope despite the name the series focuses on the conflicts of other houses during the Dance.
I hope the actor they find for Dalton Greyjoy gives that mean little fucker what he needs. Show everyone that he was the epitome of Fuck Around, Find Out.
I think we'll get to see the war from the perspective of all the different players. Not just Targaryen and Hightowers. It would be such a waste otherwise. GOT showed it from all angles and it really brought the world to life
Probably an unpopular opinion but I preferred the reactions in the earlier episodes when the bar was not filled to the brim. The reactions seemed more genuine and it was more of a chilled vibe. Anyway, watching these reactions after watching the episode has definitely become a habit.
Nah, the reactions with the original crew are more genuine and understandable. Like Rhaenyra telling everyone to clear the room followed by obnoxious cheer from the new people in the bar really throws of the chill vibes. What's there to cheer about in that scene? It's a suspenseful moment between Rhaenyra and Daemon that the original crew understood but not the new people in the bar.
Something I've noticed that's very subtle is that the Targaryens (most obviously Daemon) act almost inhuman sometimes in their behavior. Not necessarily "evil" but just.. strange. They act a bit like dragons themselves. They're almost like a different race. It's a nice touch.
I thought Daemon choking Rhaenyra was a brilliant and deliberately shocking way to highlight the idea that Dragons are never fully tame. Daemon is 100% Targaryen, a dragon in human skin. His blood and bone is fire and chaos made flesh. I feel Rhaenyra understands this because she doesn’t admonish him or scream for help. Shes not even angry. She’s just surprised that Daemon knew nothing about the Song of Ice & Fire and likely understands for Daemon the fact that his brother didn’t consider him a truly worthy successor is a festering wound on his soul that no sane person should poke. I just feel it’s a deeper moment than just an abusive act.
facts!! and I think the only person that Daemon loves is Viserys, and he felt betrayed by the fact that Viserys never consider him as a *true heir* and a targaryen dream prophecy. Since Daemon is all about the great of house of dragon. I swear to seven gods if daemon and viserys have sister, daemon would marry her, dude loves his brother so much, imagine a sister. If you recall, you can see Daemon repeated the phrase that Viserys told Rhaenyra *Dreams didn't make us kings, Dragons did.* He tried to one up Rhaenyra there, but Rhaenyra knew damn well that she got one up on him by saying *he never told you*
I Agree but also thought it was to express his anger at how he thinks Rhaenyra was showing signs of being as weak as Viserys at such a crucial time. Hes angry that she's even considering accepting the Greens terms especially since she finally has the crown he always wanted but can't have yet she may just give it up. Plus he also thinks they killed his brother. Despite everything he still loved his brother and was enraged Most of this episode thinking they killed him. So it can also be thought that her considering peace is her ignoring his brother and her father being "killed". There was a lot of a lot of emotion behind wahat he did and while it wasnt right, it was a good scene showing his rage at both her and the situation. Its like he wanted to force out Visery's mindset from her.
@@ninjastorm540 I think CapLuke and you both are right. To me Rhaenyras is making the same mistakes as Viserys where they're trying to rule with kindness and being political when Otto already wants them dead even if they bend the knee. Being honorable gets you killed in war, I'm surprised to see people praise that mentality. Daemon IS the best war leader they have and as much as people might not like his methods, they're incredibly effective as we've seen before. Now his son died and Rhaenyra totally throws it all away to do what Daemon wanted to do to begin with. Except she is fueled by rage while Daemon is always very calculative. It was Rhaenyras orders that got her son killed. Sending him all alone really ? How naive can you be ? Daemon has always been the only one in that family that saw the Hightowers for what they are. Rhaenyra was still blinded just like her father. And she paid a hefty price for it.
"Aegon has the conquerors name, the conqueror sword, the conquerors crown" but yet he is not the conqueror...Otto. "Stale Oaths will not put you on the Iron Throne Princess" but yet their oaths remain and they have more dragons. Deep down Otto has to know he is a traitor, right? He swore a oath regardless of what the lords think the succession should be like.
The Baratheon oath did not remain. Joffrey already told us how things ends in Game of Thrones, unfortunately. Even before "Fire and Blood" was written it was spoiled.
So far except for Daemon, Targaryens have been pretty soft! Are things about to change… I liked that we saw Aemond’s usual full confidence get taken down a notch, probably since the day he lost his eye. It was unexpected to see him lose control over his dragon that he so proudly managed to ride and claim.
Yup, it's full of whitewashed motivations, which is annoying tbh. Very few characters have agency on what they wanted to do. It's all "oh I did this cuz of this, and not because I truly wanted to", or some "oopsie" situations, it was so weird. I hope they fixed that on Season 2.
@@airwaters yes! I am looking forward to see how things will play out and if Aemond will say, it wasn’t on purpose and he lost it (which I am sure no one will believe except his mother maybe) or if he will let everyone believe that he did it on purpose to maintain a reputation. Actually, this is what life is about and former GOT was. A bunch of decisions or circumstances from certain characters and others are going plainly and blindly into war thinking what happened was because of someone else.
People really forget that scene and assume Daemon choking her is bad writing and out of character. No you dummy, he's the Rogue Prince, and he's pissed Rhaenyra is fight for a dream he could never understand.
@@atToebiscuit Except it is out of character because while Daemon heavily disliked his first wife and saw her as nothing but an obstacle so being violent towards her is not that hard for him, we also saw him with three other women in this show that he actually had genuine care for and never not once was violent towards them, the women being Mysaria, Laena, Rhaenrya. When will people recognize that there is a difference between Rhea, and the other women, he couldn't care less about Rhea and THAT'S why it was easy to kill her, he actually cares about Rhaenrya and up until this point has never been violent towards her so this DID come out of nowhere, but honestly I believe he was just too full of rage and the loss of his brother and daughter and then hearing about The greens usurping the crown and putting his and his family's life in danger and THEN on top of that Rhaenrya was actually considering not going to war, I think he just snapped, and didn't know what he was doing until he was doing it honestly.
@@nyeishaclark95 It's not out of character. Daemon is so pissed because he always saw Otto's plan coming but Viserys stopped him from taking action. Now he feels Rhaenyra is taking the same path as his brother and losing all his respect for her.
@@johnniecinco6698 It is out of character because while I understand why he did it, Daemon has never been shown to be violent towards the people he cares about. But like I said I can understand why he did it and Rhaenrya wasn’t scared or mad about it because she understands as well, but it still came out of nowhere kind of.
I think it's because we all know Daemon is a bad person but his only redeeming qualitiy is that he wouldn't hurt his close family . Him and his ex wife were arranged marriage and they both hated each other wether in the books he never hurt physically Nyra
I'm still pissed Rhaenyra's only daughter was a stillborn, wouldn't it great having a daughter named Visenya? The whole realm would be trembling in fear just by hearing her name, lol
Love how the queen who never was Hillary Targaryen says it wasn’t her war to start like she didn’t kill hundreds of people during her stunning and brave escape in episode nine.
It was just a dew dozens and that was still not enought to start a war. If she did kill everyone on the stage, then she would have ruined House Velaryonn’s name. It wasn’t just Greens sitting on the stage, the High Septon was also there. The religious people in westeros would have seen her as another Maegor for deliberately killing a Septon.
Shes a Targaryen and a highborn in the fantasy equivalent of the middle ages. I think its safe to assume her and other highborns' morality doesn't extend to the common folk
@@seezu84 Yea Daemond shouldn't have raised his hand on his wife and Queen, but she hasn't been cleare with him as she was afterwards when the Sea snake came and she explained her plan at the time. I mean we saw who Daemon really was at the first half of the season, he is impulsive, rebellious, stubborn it wasn't that unexpected from him, but i feel he had grown comparing to the first half of the season and also he had a point in this situation.
Choke scene : not defending what daemon did, it was fkd up. He was hurt because he realized his brother never trusted him with this secret so that means he never considered daemon as heir. remember he was grieving his brother who he thought was murdered by the hightowers, and his still born child. He loved his brother but hated the way he ruled because it made the enemy stronger and stronger and he saw nyra acting like her father (that’s your father speaking) and he hated that. He was frustrated nyra stopped him from killing Otto because he knows Otto and knows peace is not possible. Nyra was being naive the whole episode and daemon knows that will end in there deaths if they don’t start planning defenses and such like how he was. He was basically telling nyra (in a fkd up way) “Viserys died because he believed in dreams and words and peace when it wasn’t possible, don’t you dare make the same mistake, wake the fk up”.
He always hated his first wife. He didn’t choose her and she wasn’t family. You can’t disagree with me because Emma who plays nyra and Ryan condel , came out with interviews explaining that scene already. So nice try
@@jayz3272 Every abuser & Murderer have their reason to commit crimes, but that doesn’t make it right. People are so blind in love with characters that they start victim blaming😭
@@sup9023 he didn't commit a crime here though did he? And after all daemon doesn't really resemble a real-life murderer or abuser that's why we like him
@@sup9023 well I despised rhaenyra's thoughts about giving up to the greens, especially after the shit paper she received about their childhood, daemon is no clown and he despised seeing viserys weakness in rhaenyra
That somewhat noisy, drunk, larger lady in the middle celebrating pretty much anything that happens regardless of whether what was going on in the show was good or bad.. was really annoying. 😂
Como se nota los que son veteranos en el bar y los que no, los de siempre entienden las escenas y reaccionan genuinamente. hoy con tanta gente y sobre todo una que se ve en el centro de la imagen que no para de gritar por cualquier tonteria. hasta siento que se han perdido buenas conversaciones por los gritos.
@@BabySpicyPisces Viserys th0ught Daem0n is irresp0nsible, as he was brainwashed by 0tt0 int0 thinking like that. An irresp0nsible pers0n w0nt be this intense in pr0tecting the birthright 0f the heir t0 the thr0ne. He will just say, ah 0k Rhae, g0 surrender and I can resume my sex t0urs d0wn King's Landing. N0t my pr0blem anyway. N0. Daem0n w0uld have been a great king if n0t f0r Visery's weakness. Rhae will be a g00d queen, but frankly Daem0n will be a much better ruler.
@@BabySpicyPisces he already knew that, so did Rhaenyra. Viserys told them as much. Daemon never wanted the IT but he also won’t be ruled by anyone. He’s the rogue Prince
Superb facial acting from Ewan Mitchell as always, even if he is wearing an eyepatch! Going from cocky bully pursuing his nephew to shit-your-pants realisation that he can't ACTUALLY control his lumbering behemoth of a dragon was the icing on the cake of such a tragic episode. And it makes me all the more hyped for the battle over the God's Eye.
I love that you are so shocked that daemon is choking rhaenyra. like he's some good guy. They kinda forgot that they hated him in the first two episodes.
"Clear the room". YAS QUEEN!! I just loved how they were building up for girl boss moment but switched it to show that Daemon is still a petulant and vicious asshole who will use violence to get what he wants. The mood in the room completely switched.
And what d0es Daem0n wants? He stands n0 chance bec0ming a king. In fact, it will be much m0re c0nvenient f0r him if Rhae surrenders t0 Aeg0n the usurper s0 he can spend the rest 0f his life gallivanting in sex 0rgy places in KL. His zeal0usness is t0 preserve the real Targaryen family, because if Aeg0n 2 wins, the Hight0wers will be the real h0use in p0wer.
Daemon showed he still had power over her, asserting himself, especially when they're alone. He listens to her when others are around in the room. But when he is on his own, or he is alone with her, he doesn't care what she says. He keeps up appearances for their allies, but he sees himself as in control.
I understood daemon sentiments and at the same time rhaeneyra too. Daemon gone to madness, ready to wage war after finding out his brother's passing & the rebellion of greens while rhaeneyra refused with this bloodbath idea due to aegon's prophecy shared by his father. She grew up carrying the knowledge of duty that she has to unite and protect the realm in peace. A queen with bigger responsibilities and to set aside first her personal ambitions. Unfortunately, luke's tragic death was her last straw.
Also when it comes to the choking scene Emma (Rhaenyra) talked about it and said that Daemon was never and isn't violent with Rheanyra but that two tings happened in that scene: they said both were grieving and Daemon took it much worse and other is that he found out that Viserys never trusted him or saw him as heir and that broke him even more (not that he wanted the throne) and with mix of everything going on and people around him doing nothing he lost it while for Rhaenyra that was conformation that she was her's father choice from the start and thats why she half smiled at the end. All in all even the show writters and Emma toned down the scene which really makes me think they could've shown all of that the other way not choking but this gave the shock value so they went with it
@@dreamfyre3868 interviewer asked is Daemon violent with Rhaenyra in their marrige and Emma said no. This was the only time it happend is what they meant
You do know that choking isn’t alright in any circumstance? & Killing your first wife also is not? He was never a good guy wtf y’all are talking about😭😭😭
The fact that I'm annoyed watching the clip from yesterday. Imagine the people at the bar being with her for the whole entire episode. 😒 I prefer the regular watchers from early episodes not that I hate that the bar is full packed. Hehe
I found disrespectful some people from the public to laugh and applaud in a scene where a mother had to get out her dead baby from her body... I lost my twin brother at the birth and still 26 years later it's still difficult for our family.
I think that's on you for being too easily offended, honestly. There's a big difference between how people react to a fantasy show versus real life. Some people also laugh or have weird mannerisms when dealing with shocking things/news.
Animals can be contained and trained but not controlled, at the end of the day they're still animals and they're gonna do what they naturally do. Just ask the people who worked for the Tiger King lol
I like how when she said “clear the room” everyone got all excited because they thought she was about to flex then when she got grabbed by the throat everyone was like “you can’t dominate her like that! We wanted her to put you in your place!” 😂
I imagine most of the people in a bar havnt a clue what's going on in the show. My evidence? They watched a dialogue heavy show in a bar. It's not football!!
They even clapped when Rhaenyra finally pushed out her stillborn🤦They seriously believed the baby would come out healthy despite all the obvious hints to the contrary. Wow, just wow.
Love how none of them question the loyalty of House Stark and move on to question House Baratheon 😂
House Stark is GOAT. Winter is Coming 🐺
@@Lord_Draco_III Winter is definitely coming for the greens…
Yeah House Stark are no oath breakers. They know who the real Queen is. Can't wait to see who they cast as Cregan Stark. In the books all the other lords are terrified of him and obey every order
@@kylethompson3008 Exactly! I’m excited to see the casting. Who do you think should take on the legendary role???
@@kylethompson3008 Except Rob and Sansa 😭😭
It's wild how some of the superguests are still in their assigned seats since GoT
That’s what you call loyalty from Sean
@@Oakland510 Loyalty goes both ways. I personally love this public viewing bar project. Sean created a like minded community, a little happy place, in his corner of the world. What more can you ask for in life really?
@@DigitalBath306 i like the commitment but i think they more than earned a reserved seat spot IMO.
The old guard lol
they want to be seen
Rhaenyra's crowning scene is actually even more brilliant than I remember in retrospect... argh I love how it was scored!
I got chills brah she looked so gooood
The music was so moving and beautiful 😍
Ramin Djawadi continues to elevate this franchise to a whole other level
@@cosmo588 She’s playing queen while the real king stands tall
@@_M41KU_ No for long. He will soon not be able to stand up that much. Plus, when your own supporters poison you, you ain't standing tall.
Whatever the obstacles Ser Erryk has gone through to retrieve Viserys' crown and escape unscathed or undetected is an amazing feat to be honest
HE WAS THE FIRST TO CALL RHAENYRA THE QUEEN AND KNEEL .....HIS LOYALTY IS EVERYTHING
Being a member of the kings guard I’m sure would’ve given him access to steal it..
There's the lost episode I want to see!
It’s simple, people were not sure which twin he was 😂. Nah but seriously yeah it’s impressive and also how he got Rhaenys out too. They likely would’ve killed her if she didn’t support Aegon ii.
That's not a big deal for a member of kingsguard.
Drama Kings of HoTD:
Daemon and Caraxes. I just love how Caraxes always pops up from nowhere after Daemon finishes his dramatic speech and they just stare down.
Generaly they have such good conection
Yes he did that allot 😅
I've always liked the idea that the Dragons have almost identical personalities to their first riders they bonded with. Makes alot of sense when you consider how similar Caraxes and Daemon are, but compare that to say Aemond and Vhagar, who's relationship seems more like Vhagar is only allowing Aemond to ride her but they don't seem as linked as Daemon and Caraxes.
@@MrZomBie775 exactly 💯
They have a deep bond together caraxes can feel daemon called without saying a word
@@KevinDiazx11 Daemond truly is EVIL!!! He makes even Ramsay look so polite and kind by comparison!!! 😱😱😱
I literally broke at poor baby Visenya, I watched the first part of this episode through tears. Emma showed pain and grief at it’s deepest form for a mother.
Lol.
It seems people never learn. Daenerys "burn the king's landing' Targaryen.
@@SogonD.Zunatsu we know its just a show but the subject is hurtful for viewers such as mothers and anyone who lost a child so u commenting "Lol" for it didnt make u cool at all, ur just a hypocrite who thinks uve seen it all
In the beginning of the episode you can see how Rheanyra’s & Daemons connection to their dragons are not rational but emotional (her still birth and Daemon’s loyalty test the dragons reacted to their emotional states)
It would so seem that
A dragon rider should not worry about ruling the dragon but ruling themselves
Aemond’s rage and Lucaerys fear is what the dragons reacted to and thus the tragic outcome.
Daemon is a DragonLORD. Vastly more powerful than a dragonrider
Interesting!
@@Oakland510 it’s never mentioned anywhere that Daemon is a Dragonlord. And while Targaryen’s are considered a Dragonlord house they were not a very powerful one and lacked much of the sorcery and relics used by the true Dragonlords of the freehold.
Aenar Targaryen is the last person to be officially named a Dragonlord even though Aegon the conqueror referred to himself as one.
@@yseson_ it doesn’t have to be mentioned officially. If you connect t the dots and read between the lines of all of George’s works, you’ll see daemon meets the conditions
oh interesting!
"Tf is that?!" by Daemon was hillarious and honestlly most of the people reactions to that paper scene. No one cared at that point
And "I would rather feed my sons to the dragons than have them carry shields and cups for your drunken usurper cunnt of a king" is iconic line now lol
truth be told being king's squire and cupbearer for nephews of younger age would be a huge honor (like if you were the assistant of US president) and grooming them for leadership, perhaps seat on the small council or in future hand of king to Aegon's successor, but of course not in this kind of situation
@@lkrnpk not when their mother should be queen! They would be in constant danger in that position as possible heirs.
The reason Daemon said that is because he knows Aegon ll always rape the maids who serve him.
@@dianedavid3052 so as Aegon, Aemond and Daeron if Rhaenyra became queen
@@yasmina3999 I would have to disagree, there’s no evidence of that. She never once threatened Alicents children it was Otto sowing seeds with Alicent that created that narrative
It's great how they show the level of control different characters have over their dragons. While daemon and rhaenys use their dragons as if they were extensions of themselves characters like luce and aemond still have very little control over their dragons.
A usurpadora da Rhaenyra nem luta com o seu Dragão
none of them have control. it's an illusion. They listen to them to an extent. It's more like they are bond with their riders and they can feel whatever they feel
I think Luke didn't have much control over Arrax because of the circumstances, it was storming and Arrax and Luke were both terrified so the dragon acted in self-defense and Vhagar is the one of the oldest dragons and has went through battle A LOT so I feel she has more of a mind of her own
@@jordanzdebski5132 yeah exactly i'd say some riders who have a stronger bond with their dragon has more control / their dragon feels what their rider feels more which allows the dragon to act in the best interest of its rider
What's that old Viserys saying "the idea that we control the dragons is an illusion". When you controlled one dragon, like we seen many times, it's different, it's like training one dog. But what Viserys is saying is when there's more them one dragon, either when they are nipping at each other or fighting, then you are at their mercy. It's like holding one dog on a lease, the dog is fine, another dog comes, and they're both barking at each other, and Arrax was that other dog, he didn't like being chased and intimidated by a bigger dragon, and Vhagar doesn't like a little dragon spitting fire at her, so it's like 2 dogs going at each other while the owners are pulling and tugging on their leashes.
Dragonstone bridge scenes are so cool. Otto was spared by Rhaenyra 2 times on that bridge!! Will he survive a 3rd? 😂
Well the 1st time Otto was on her side.
Unless there's another encounter that the book doesn't mention, I highly doubt it.
Rhaenyr: this the ✌️2nd time you showed up without pre-rolls 🌿; next time have some to share, or prepare to never leave
3rd Time is in King's Landing and he is the 1st to be executed
They should have at least taken them hostage
"Queen Rhaenyra Targaryen, First of Her Name, Queen of the Andals and the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lady of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm."
The crown fits her perfectly
🖤
Rhaenys/Daemon/Aemond were better suited than Aegon/Rhaenyra.
@@Aditya1998pandey FACTS. With rhaenys/daemon/aemond on the throne, history would be so united that once night king wakes up, westeros would have fcked night king in his arse.
@@Aditya1998pandey indeed they were
@@Aditya1998pandey
Rhaenys the subway bomber
Daemon the unstable sociopath
Aegon the debauched loser
Rhaenyra the irresponsible brat
The only person fit to be king is Aemond (going by the show's canon)
@@TomFranklinX One Eye Kinslayer is a cruel lunatic, whose reason for being a king is similar to Renly’s.
What Rhaenyra went through in one day is more convincing as a descent to madness than what Daenerys did. But I guess it doesn't matter now. Happy to see the bar flooded again like the old days. 😊😏😏
Lol is it fuck. Dany, who was sold and beaten for most of her early life by her brother - then her husband and baby were both murdered - then when she finally got home, a place where she dreamed of being was met sheer hatred. Her dragons were killed, her loyal protector died in her arms, Jon rejects her, the north rejects her after she saved them. Then her best friend is beheaded in front of her....... Yeah Rhae hasn't suffered anywhere near what Dany did.
Kind of.
Rhaenyra isn't mad...yet. She indeed suffers more than anyone should if life were fair, but, these incidents are the precursor. Something else....happens and that is what breaks her.
Daenerys was gradual as well. She didn't just flip in episode five. Keep in mind since coming to Westeros Dany lost Viserion, Jorah, Rhaegal and Missandei. That's a lot. Also keep in mind that Rhaenyra has a support system and as those around her dwindle in numbers, so does her sanity. Daenerys lost the little she had almost overnight.
This is why I say that people saying Daenerys would never do what she did are missing the point a bit because honestly, how would we know? That theory was never tested.
When the chips are down and you have nothing left to lose sometimes the worst thing you can think of is the very thing you do.
@@janellejulianajoy No one serious says Daenerys wouldn't have done the things she did at the end. People were saying the last season was extremely sped up because they needed to end the show in 6 episodes. Take everything that happened in the final season and stretch it out for 2 full season, make the NK and WW the real enemy and not Cersei and the series would've ended just fine. There is also a lot more that is wrong with the final season but I don't want to get into that here.
@@GreenFalcon926 I think the issue is the way the screenwriters made it happen. It didn't FEEL convincing, even if it could have based on previous events throughout the series. Whereas this episode is written SO well, that everything feels justified in playing out the way it does.
@@GreenFalcon926none of that actually would happen. Just bad writing
Aemond: "No Vhagar!, No!...Dohaeres"
Vhagar: "Don't worry Visenya, I shall avenge Meraxes....also when did Dorne get dragons?"😉🙃🤣
Senile Vhagar lol
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there were dragon eggs stolen when Jaeherys was still King.
This is why I enjoy watching these. I myself wouldnt wanna be there because I wouldn’t hear anything, because someone’s always yelling for just about anything, but I can watch this after watching the show by myself.
Americans for you 😂😂
@@appocalypsechild Yeah, I like those videos but that woman was doing a bit much. It is what it is tho, no big deal.
@@dean5828 Yes non Americans never do this
@@dean5828 how about the English and Europeans at a pubs getting into brawls over their favorite football teams. 😏Sit down.
@@vathrz right? She's tossed, that drink is going to her head and hurt my ears...plus the poor watchers near her.
I’m so glad I got to watch the HOtD season one finale at The Burlington bar! I got the chance to be in Chicago during the season finale and I couldn’t have asked for a better way to cap off season one. It was so great to meet a couple of the regular watchers and stick around for the podcast recording. Thank you Morgan, Sean, Emile, and everyone at the bar for creating such a wonderful way to get together! I’ll do my best to be back here for season 2!! ❤
"The idea that we control the dragons is an illusion" ~ King Viserys I Targaryen
I don't think this quote should be taken entirely true.. yes the dragons still have a mind on their own and free will but I do believe a dragon rider's bond can be so strong with a dragon, the dragon will act on their rider's emotions/feelings-- for example, Syrax and Rhaenyra's bond is said to be extremely strong and she's the youngest person to ever ride a dragon
@Mister Skyrunner yeah, King Viserys was right when he said this. Daenerys also said "A dragon is not a slave".
@@Divine_Chareka lord y’all are so dumb is hilarious. You gonna quote this for the next decade like y’all have been with the every time a Targaryen is born the gods flip a coin like only 5 of them went mad y’all are so ridiculous
Of course he would say that, he barely rode Balerion and didn’t truly form a bond with it 😂😂
@@elleddiana Even Dany didn't have any control over her Dragons most of the time when they were adults..Drogon wanted to do, what Drogon wanted to do..
Again, seeing everyone cheer when the crown came out feels so cathartic, after the crap Daenerys went through.
People were upset with the way Daenerys' character was ruined, not Daenerys herself.
@@Jonathan-om1wq when people at the bar cheered for her death tho.. it was very telling
@@jujuliliath agreed i did not mourn her but i wasnt cheering and i was a critic of her before she went psycho.
@@maelguiraud3568 yeah, i understand not liking her but cheering just felt unnecessary, specially for a character so pivotal to the story
*before
women's reaction and emotion was totally different than the guys during the miscarriage scene. guys are grossed out and uncomfortable. The women are sad, sympathetic, hurt. it's interesting. such a subtle difference but watch folks face and body language. very interesting
That might be what, besides Emma's acting, makes that scene so great. When you flip it back to episode 3, the men were cheering at war and battle and death in larger score than the women in the bar, who seemed entertained but had a hard time swallowing the gore.
It's crazy to think they can watch a man get cut in two with a sword easier than they can watch a woman give birth, but both sides can be intrigued and empathize after everything we went through with Rhaenyra. A lot of the men winced and cringed, but I think the bravest of the bunch didn't dare to look away. The girls didn't blink. This is why crowd stuff like this is so cool imo
LET THE DANCE BEGIN 🐲🔥🫡
@Mister Skyrunner r u in ur 80s or at least 60s?
Noooo. I don’t want all dragons to die
@Mister Skyrunner do you think it will be full battle no the writer will slow the fight
ok. calm down madara. i think you drunk to much sake
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Daemon was on fire this episode, he was on auto pilot, ready to retake the throne for his family. He was awesome.
Rhaenyra was also flawless. Her strength, resilience, restraint, and poise. Definitely the ruler, the realm needs. Both together, perfect balance to run the Kingdom. Unfortunately, their first task is to fend off a coup, and of course they find each other at odds. Under more normal circumstances, I have no doubt they would work it out behind closed doors, but the level of stress, tension, grief, anger; it’s just too much. Under this circumstances I believe Daemon is more experience and he is correct about having to be swift and merciless with people like Otto and Alicent. He doesn’t care about prophecies. Rhaenyra, on the other hand, should find more resolve to fight for her claim, knowing that only she carries that prophecy.
Daemon is going to be her strongest ally moving forward, ensured dragonstone was safe whilst rhaenyra was giving birth
I loved how Daemon called her boys my sons, that was bad ass.
@@moondra3481 Where? I think he said his son's will not be cupbearers and shield carriers, the positions Otto promised for his sons. Rhaeynras sons were promised Dragonstone and Driftmark
@@DecSteele not for long though he doesnt trully love her
Maybe it’s just me, but I preferred when there were less people in the bar the last couple of weeks. It was nice to see new faces and old ones from the GoT days, and also it was refreshing to not hear screaming over every little thing.
I prefer the og crew at front and the couples at back everybody else just bandwagoners and wanna perform for camera
There's one specific person in this one playing it up for the camera
@@andrewbanks6873 ikr, gasping and screaming at every little thing
@@andrewbanks6873 definitely the lady behind the one with the black & white hair. Did the same thing for the GoT reactions and it’s annoying.
The previous reactions for this season were sooooo good because it felt genuine and people were actually paying attention, so this one kinda threw me off
@@batswing4473 😂Bruh why tf did people cheer when the baby fell out? The noise this vid felt like a misplaced laugh track...
When Otto said that Aegon the Younger could be squire and Viserys could be his cupbearer, I was like "oh hell no" lmao. Also not some people cheering when the baby fell out of Rhaenyra.
I think maybe they thought that the baby survived
They were just proud Rhaenyra got through it and survived I think.
@@BunnyDearest man they were laughing when she was in pain with the birth
@@ken-yo2hz Honestly good for them at least they could laugh, I was so disgusted I had to take a half hour break before I could watch that shit again! Fukcing HBO...
I've never read the book, so I didn't know that baby Visenya would die, so I was cheering for Nyra at the birth scene, but when I noticed the baby didn't make it, I started crying. Maybe it's the same case with those at the bar.
Great to see the bar back to its GOT season 7 season 8 level of packness
I love it as well, I must say House of Dragons exceeded my expectations.
That's what these reactions were known for. Their epic GoT videos. Been watching them for years. The channel will be glad this series exists to bring back their views lol.
And they'll get burned again, "Dracaris."
Crazy
Otto going on dragonstone with 5 mens … this guy have balls of steel
He knows her better than that, those aren't balls of steel. It would be dishonourable to kill him while he was sending the message from the Queen. But still a few second later Renyira comes with a dragon behind them, steps on the bridge and crosses through them.
@@peolfpetler8500 It is balls of steel in this case because Rhaenyra can't really control Daemon -and Daemon would have no compunctions with killing Otto.
“Then the storm broke, and the dragons danced.”
*literally anything happens*
WOO GIRL: "WOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
14:52 such good parallel with ep 2 but now Rhaenyra goes to stand next to Daemon 🖤🔥
And the way Daemon talks with Otto is my favourite 😂
Yea thought the same, i think they used the same green screen dragon part as in episode 3.
That one lady in the middle who keeps screaming so loud! I was annoyed but I can’t imagine how everyone was feeling her being so dramatic!!
Daemon: I'd rather feed my son's to dragons.
*30 mins later*
If you listen to this while also watching the episode, it turns House of the Dragon into a very dark family sitcom.
"there has never lived a stark who forgot an oath" until Robert Stark...
@@Drimil3 yep Sansa Lannister/Bolton
Rob died for Volantis pussy
@@Drimil3 what did she do again?
@@420cm She told Tyrion about Jon's true birth, to throw a wrench in Dany's plan and have everyone support Jon instead, this causing a wedge between the two.
@@420cm she tell everyone that Jon is targaryen
@@420cm she married 2 men but ran away and didn't fulfill her duties as a lady for their houses. Thus her breaking an oath.
Rhaenyra is really the rightful heir, she's not rushing to war, considering all consequences, keeping the peace as much as possible, that is why Daemon is frustrated. Daemon is hyped up for war. He lives for that shit.
She's being illogical tho , daemon is right war is unavoidable,
It's either war or rhaenyra surrender her throne, there's no 3rd option,
So daemon is 100 % right
@@spunkymaniac9312 more reason why he's not a king. Rhaenyra is holding down the fort just like what rhaenys told to corlys. Rhaenys closely watches rhaenyras actions and that's why they sided with rhaenyra in the end
@@spunkymaniac9312 Daemon was being impulsive. Why would they go to war when they don't even know wh their allies are ? And didn't even bother to do some politicking with people who may and my not be loyal to their oaths. I'm rooting for the black queen, but I wouldn't be surprised if Otto outplayed them.
@@spunkymaniac9312 “I made a promise to my father to hold the realm strong and united. If war's first stroke is to follow, it will not be by my hand.” - Rhaenyra
@@spunkymaniac9312 She wasn't being illogical. She was preparing for war but not engaging it, which is the ideal. Daemon wanted to rush to war because HE was being emotional, since he thought his brother was murdered. He was angry and being impulsive. Rhaenyra was the one who kept her head cool, considered the risks and acted as a true ruler should.
Can we agree that one lady is 4 degrees to the wind and hurting ear drums? It be nice to watch, really enjoy watching others perspectives. Personally because of loud intoxicated peeps, it's at home with close friends for me with a drink in hand.
Why are people clapping when the dead baby came out ?? I mean, wtf 😂
Yeah bunch of weirdos
I think a lot of them are pro abortion so they are excited to see dead babies
I think they expected the baby to be alive, so they cheered for rhaenyra for getting the baby out. But I agree maybe they should not have clapped if they don't know what's gonna happen next. We already learned this in GOT when clapping lmao 😅
What Otto didn’t know is the King only passes the knowledge of the Song of ICE and FIRE prophecy and dagger inscription to its heir.
People clap when they heard Syrax’s noise approaching the bridge. Nice! 😅😅👏🏽👏🏽
true!! the dagger and prophecy are really the main point of this whole ordeal in westeros which only the true rightfully heir possessed ( THE SONG OF ICE AND FIRE ) The real enemy is behind the wall.
Just that Caption America guy enjoying the music of crown while everyone screaming 😂
Everytime Rhaenyra breath the bar screams I love the team black energy
@@LucerysOwner I mean you’re team green so I guess from your perspective it could get annoying especially that one time😂😭
@@LucerysOwner Bro how can anyone love Otto or ser Christian or Egon. Alisse is the only one likeable there, but even she had some questionable decisions. Aemond seemes cool, but still we got to see his true nature and ambitions.
@@peolfpetler8500 I think its less people like any of them and more that they hate Rhaenyra, Daemon, and the Blacks. Whether its because their fans are so obnoxious, or because they get away with so much BS to the point that people want to see them die already, it depends.
Personally speaking, I am technically Team Black but I also want to see Rhaenyra's Strong boys get eaten so her trueborn can take over. Those boys are nothing but trouble.
Got Chills when they started talking about Winterfell
Fully expected someone to shout out “the North remembers”.
literally yelled
I'm digging homeboy with the baseball cap in the back with his arm around his buddy the whole episode! That's friendship goals.
connection between daemond and caraxes is really strong u know without saying any word from daemon caraxes comes it s like that carexes understand what daemond wants whithout saying anything.unlike aemon dand luke who lake this connection .the best relation btw a rider and a dragon is deamon and caraxes
@asgkasgasi I don't know if they will make his connection to Sunfyre that deep though, they literally have never shown him with this dragon and only ever showed him to be a drunken rapist, his coronation was the perfect time to show it and yet they wasted an opportunity on a senseless scene with Rhaenys. Also Aegon was perfectly fine with just sailing away never to be seen again and leave Sunfyre in the dust.
@asgkasgasi let's also consider that GRRM said that this series needs at least 5 (6?) Seasons in order to tell the whole Dance of the Dragons story.
He said the same with GOT (that the series needs at least 10 seasons) but obviously they didn't listen to him and look what happened with that series.
So there's a possibility that they will show the connection between Sunfrye and Aegon in the series.
English motherfucker, do you speak it?
Well, if it wasn't obvious from the video of the final battle, it is very clear here who knows what is going to happen (I'm just over a min in). Great to see the bar packed out again. During lockdown we might have binged watched everything, but there is something special about watching something together.
PS Guys. Having babies is really f-ing hard. Even now. Respect to moms everywhere.
I read the book but as soon as I saw Luke in the first scene I was like ''yup, he's a goner'' and knew how the season ends
Find someone who looks at you the way that Morgan looks at Caraxes.
Who's Morgan?
@@habibwrites1955 green-haired gal with black and white headscarf/bow. She's in a bunch of Sean's reaction videos. Part of the OG crew.
Imagine when Dalton “the Red Kraken” Greyjoy comes into the fray. So much story left, I hope despite the name the series focuses on the conflicts of other houses during the Dance.
@Ali Chaudhry Daeron will appear in season 2 the author confirmed it in an interview
I hope the actor they find for Dalton Greyjoy gives that mean little fucker what he needs. Show everyone that he was the epitome of Fuck Around, Find Out.
@Ali Chaudhry They could only do so much with 10 episodes m GRRM said there could be 5 seasons.
I think we'll get to see the war from the perspective of all the different players. Not just Targaryen and Hightowers. It would be such a waste otherwise. GOT showed it from all angles and it really brought the world to life
@Ali Chaudhry Why are you here to hate on HOTD?
I'm going to miss you guys so much, see you in 2 years :)
Rhys Ifans is an awesome actor.
"Dreams didn't make us Kings, Dragons did."
Probably an unpopular opinion but I preferred the reactions in the earlier episodes when the bar was not filled to the brim. The reactions seemed more genuine and it was more of a chilled vibe. Anyway, watching these reactions after watching the episode has definitely become a habit.
Exactly my thought
Yeah it's a circus now no genuine reactions apart from the og people
Nah, the reactions with the original crew are more genuine and understandable. Like Rhaenyra telling everyone to clear the room followed by obnoxious cheer from the new people in the bar really throws of the chill vibes. What's there to cheer about in that scene? It's a suspenseful moment between Rhaenyra and Daemon that the original crew understood but not the new people in the bar.
Definitely better with just the regulars in, you can see who out of the new crowd are playing up for the cameras
@@Socialmediasucks963 she's been there since got. u r the new one.
So good seeing that bar packed again. Ya'll aint ready for what's to come.
Im beyond sad we have to wait so long for more episodes! Will miss you dearly bar!
Man do I feel for miss black n white sitting at the bar having to put up with that swamp hog yelling in her ear the whole show
Comment of the day right hur *^
“Swamp hog”. 😂😂😂 fooking savage.
WE NEED SEASON 2 RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!
Something I've noticed that's very subtle is that the Targaryens (most obviously Daemon) act almost inhuman sometimes in their behavior. Not necessarily "evil" but just.. strange. They act a bit like dragons themselves. They're almost like a different race. It's a nice touch.
I think that it wouldn't be crazy to call valyrians a different race. The way they look, the magic, the dragons. They are very unique people.
Who’s acted weird besides daemon?
They are a different race. They are Valyrians.
@@Oakland510 Aemond, Aegon, Rhaenyra and many more Targs before and after them
@@ken-yo2hz how has rhaenyra been weird
I thought Daemon choking Rhaenyra was a brilliant and deliberately shocking way to highlight the idea that Dragons are never fully tame. Daemon is 100% Targaryen, a dragon in human skin. His blood and bone is fire and chaos made flesh. I feel Rhaenyra understands this because she doesn’t admonish him or scream for help. Shes not even angry. She’s just surprised that Daemon knew nothing about the Song of Ice & Fire and likely understands for Daemon the fact that his brother didn’t consider him a truly worthy successor is a festering wound on his soul that no sane person should poke. I just feel it’s a deeper moment than just an abusive act.
facts!! and I think the only person that Daemon loves is Viserys, and he felt betrayed by the fact that Viserys never consider him as a *true heir* and a targaryen dream prophecy. Since Daemon is all about the great of house of dragon. I swear to seven gods if daemon and viserys have sister, daemon would marry her, dude loves his brother so much, imagine a sister. If you recall, you can see Daemon repeated the phrase that Viserys told Rhaenyra *Dreams didn't make us kings, Dragons did.* He tried to one up Rhaenyra there, but Rhaenyra knew damn well that she got one up on him by saying *he never told you*
I Agree but also thought it was to express his anger at how he thinks Rhaenyra was showing signs of being as weak as Viserys at such a crucial time. Hes angry that she's even considering accepting the Greens terms especially since she finally has the crown he always wanted but can't have yet she may just give it up. Plus he also thinks they killed his brother. Despite everything he still loved his brother and was enraged Most of this episode thinking they killed him. So it can also be thought that her considering peace is her ignoring his brother and her father being "killed". There was a lot of a lot of emotion behind wahat he did and while it wasnt right, it was a good scene showing his rage at both her and the situation. Its like he wanted to force out Visery's mindset from her.
@@ninjastorm540 I think CapLuke and you both are right. To me Rhaenyras is making the same mistakes as Viserys where they're trying to rule with kindness and being political when Otto already wants them dead even if they bend the knee. Being honorable gets you killed in war, I'm surprised to see people praise that mentality. Daemon IS the best war leader they have and as much as people might not like his methods, they're incredibly effective as we've seen before. Now his son died and Rhaenyra totally throws it all away to do what Daemon wanted to do to begin with. Except she is fueled by rage while Daemon is always very calculative. It was Rhaenyras orders that got her son killed. Sending him all alone really ? How naive can you be ? Daemon has always been the only one in that family that saw the Hightowers for what they are. Rhaenyra was still blinded just like her father. And she paid a hefty price for it.
"Aegon has the conquerors name, the conqueror sword, the conquerors crown" but yet he is not the conqueror...Otto.
"Stale Oaths will not put you on the Iron Throne Princess" but yet their oaths remain and they have more dragons. Deep down Otto has to know he is a traitor, right? He swore a oath regardless of what the lords think the succession should be like.
Soon the old alliance of the Starks, Tullies and arryns will come
The Baratheon oath did not remain. Joffrey already told us how things ends in Game of Thrones, unfortunately. Even before "Fire and Blood" was written it was spoiled.
Had the same reaction at 8:35. Ramin Djawadi is truly the MVP of this series
Rhaenyra: Breaths.
Bar: OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
So far except for Daemon, Targaryens have been pretty soft! Are things about to change…
I liked that we saw Aemond’s usual full confidence get taken down a notch, probably since the day he lost his eye. It was unexpected to see him lose control over his dragon that he so proudly managed to ride and claim.
Decades of peace will make you soft.
Yup, it's full of whitewashed motivations, which is annoying tbh. Very few characters have agency on what they wanted to do. It's all "oh I did this cuz of this, and not because I truly wanted to", or some "oopsie" situations, it was so weird. I hope they fixed that on Season 2.
@@airwaters yes! I am looking forward to see how things will play out and if Aemond will say, it wasn’t on purpose and he lost it (which I am sure no one will believe except his mother maybe) or if he will let everyone believe that he did it on purpose to maintain a reputation.
Actually, this is what life is about and former GOT was. A bunch of decisions or circumstances from certain characters and others are going plainly and blindly into war thinking what happened was because of someone else.
Great to see how the number of folks in the bar continued to grow each episode!
They were all shocked when he grabbed her neck like they forgot that he killed his other wife a few episodes ago
People really forget that scene and assume Daemon choking her is bad writing and out of character. No you dummy, he's the Rogue Prince, and he's pissed Rhaenyra is fight for a dream he could never understand.
@@atToebiscuit Except it is out of character because while Daemon heavily disliked his first wife and saw her as nothing but an obstacle so being violent towards her is not that hard for him, we also saw him with three other women in this show that he actually had genuine care for and never not once was violent towards them, the women being Mysaria, Laena, Rhaenrya. When will people recognize that there is a difference between Rhea, and the other women, he couldn't care less about Rhea and THAT'S why it was easy to kill her, he actually cares about Rhaenrya and up until this point has never been violent towards her so this DID come out of nowhere, but honestly I believe he was just too full of rage and the loss of his brother and daughter and then hearing about The greens usurping the crown and putting his and his family's life in danger and THEN on top of that Rhaenrya was actually considering not going to war, I think he just snapped, and didn't know what he was doing until he was doing it honestly.
@@nyeishaclark95 It's not out of character. Daemon is so pissed because he always saw Otto's plan coming but Viserys stopped him from taking action.
Now he feels Rhaenyra is taking the same path as his brother and losing all his respect for her.
@@johnniecinco6698 It is out of character because while I understand why he did it, Daemon has never been shown to be violent towards the people he cares about. But like I said I can understand why he did it and Rhaenrya wasn’t scared or mad about it because she understands as well, but it still came out of nowhere kind of.
I think it's because we all know Daemon is a bad person but his only redeeming qualitiy is that he wouldn't hurt his close family . Him and his ex wife were arranged marriage and they both hated each other wether in the books he never hurt physically Nyra
I'm still pissed Rhaenyra's only daughter was a stillborn, wouldn't it great having a daughter named Visenya? The whole realm would be trembling in fear just by hearing her name, lol
I think I speak for everyone where when I saw that no one would fear the name.
Love how the queen who never was Hillary Targaryen says it wasn’t her war to start like she didn’t kill hundreds of people during her stunning and brave escape in episode nine.
It was just a dew dozens and that was still not enought to start a war. If she did kill everyone on the stage, then she would have ruined House Velaryonn’s name. It wasn’t just Greens sitting on the stage, the High Septon was also there. The religious people in westeros would have seen her as another Maegor for deliberately killing a Septon.
No one cares for the peasants
Shes a Targaryen and a highborn in the fantasy equivalent of the middle ages. I think its safe to assume her and other highborns' morality doesn't extend to the common folk
@@jareddepew1467 tell that to the peasants when they'll rise up and kill dragons
@@jareddepew1467: We actually do care for innocent lives man... The whole resolution of the Dance highlights the cost of innocent lives...
I love how everyone in the room suddenly realized, that maybe, just maybe Daemon IS actually an asshole
Everyone acting surprised Daemon is getting violent with his niece/wife. I guess they forgot he bludgeoned his first wife's skull in with a rock.
Also that innocent guard he put to sleep to cover as Laenors death. ALSO! smashing his niece the same night he buried his wife.
I swear these people would clap and cheer for a horse taking a shit
Lol everyone went completely silent when they saw a little bit of Daemon's true self
No woo-ing when that happend. I'm for team Green.
@@seezu84 Ewww.
not a flex. an embarrassment actually.
@@seezu84 Yea Daemond shouldn't have raised his hand on his wife and Queen, but she hasn't been cleare with him as she was afterwards when the Sea snake came and she explained her plan at the time. I mean we saw who Daemon really was at the first half of the season, he is impulsive, rebellious, stubborn it wasn't that unexpected from him, but i feel he had grown comparing to the first half of the season and also he had a point in this situation.
Choke scene : not defending what daemon did, it was fkd up. He was hurt because he realized his brother never trusted him with this secret so that means he never considered daemon as heir. remember he was grieving his brother who he thought was murdered by the hightowers, and his still born child. He loved his brother but hated the way he ruled because it made the enemy stronger and stronger and he saw nyra acting like her father (that’s your father speaking) and he hated that. He was frustrated nyra stopped him from killing Otto because he knows Otto and knows peace is not possible. Nyra was being naive the whole episode and daemon knows that will end in there deaths if they don’t start planning defenses and such like how he was. He was basically telling nyra (in a fkd up way) “Viserys died because he believed in dreams and words and peace when it wasn’t possible, don’t you dare make the same mistake, wake the fk up”.
Same guy that murdered his first wife….
He always hated his first wife. He didn’t choose her and she wasn’t family. You can’t disagree with me because Emma who plays nyra and Ryan condel , came out with interviews explaining that scene already. So nice try
@@jayz3272 You know every murder & a domestic abuser doesn’t loves her wife per say💀 Wtf is the argument?😭😭
@@jayz3272 Every abuser & Murderer have their reason to commit crimes, but that doesn’t make it right. People are so blind in love with characters that they start victim blaming😭
@@sup9023 he didn't commit a crime here though did he? And after all daemon doesn't really resemble a real-life murderer or abuser that's why we like him
Everybody got real fucking quiet after cheering when she delivered the baby...that fucking scene! What a great finale.
Bar looking packed like the old Game of Thrones days
Team Daemon!!!! 🐉🔥🔥🔥
the killer of the first wife & the choker of his niece. ALL HAIL DAEMON🤡
@@sup9023 well I despised rhaenyra's thoughts about giving up to the greens, especially after the shit paper she received about their childhood, daemon is no clown and he despised seeing viserys weakness in rhaenyra
@@aliyaakoub6630 Would you have choked your wife if she wasn’t on the same page as you?🤓
@@sup9023 daemon is the best and the worst
@@aliyaakoub6630 That's no excuse.
That somewhat noisy, drunk, larger lady in the middle celebrating pretty much anything that happens regardless of whether what was going on in the show was good or bad.. was really annoying. 😂
ikr i know she's just genuinely cheering for the blacks but she's so loud in the entire episode. It's so distracting lol.
ikr it was so obvious she was playing it up for the cameras and ruining it for everyone else with her constant screaming
She screams equally as loud when Arrax attacks Vhagar 😂
Ya like what’s up with that hippo? Ruin this reaction finale for me. 😢
@@brucealmighty9686 call others hippo makes YOU to a jerk.
Como se nota los que son veteranos en el bar y los que no, los de siempre entienden las escenas y reaccionan genuinamente. hoy con tanta gente y sobre todo una que se ve en el centro de la imagen que no para de gritar por cualquier tonteria. hasta siento que se han perdido buenas conversaciones por los gritos.
Hilarious how everyone cheered when Rhae cleared the room, expecting her to lecture Daemon. Ha. Daemon takes no shit from no one.
It was mostly women who cheered, felt good when daemon choked her
I meannnn… now Daemon knows that even his own brother never trusted him to sit on the iron throne
@@BabySpicyPisces Viserys th0ught Daem0n is irresp0nsible, as he was brainwashed by 0tt0 int0 thinking like that. An irresp0nsible pers0n w0nt be this intense in pr0tecting the birthright 0f the heir t0 the thr0ne. He will just say, ah 0k Rhae, g0 surrender and I can resume my sex t0urs d0wn King's Landing. N0t my pr0blem anyway. N0. Daem0n w0uld have been a great king if n0t f0r Visery's weakness. Rhae will be a g00d queen, but frankly Daem0n will be a much better ruler.
@@BabySpicyPisces he already knew that, so did Rhaenyra. Viserys told them as much. Daemon never wanted the IT but he also won’t be ruled by anyone. He’s the rogue Prince
@@TheChosen2030 Gross
Superb facial acting from Ewan Mitchell as always, even if he is wearing an eyepatch! Going from cocky bully pursuing his nephew to shit-your-pants realisation that he can't ACTUALLY control his lumbering behemoth of a dragon was the icing on the cake of such a tragic episode.
And it makes me all the more hyped for the battle over the God's Eye.
Grandma Vhagar has dementia, don't blame her for her Dorne flashbacks.
@@atToebiscuit hey visenya, it feel cool right?... btw how tf dornish get the dragon?
Lol the look of everyone when Daemon strangled Rhaenyra!
I don't really like the guy, but I gotta admit: Otto Hightower has some BALLS
i love how pink beard guy is like a king. and the other at his side are his kinghands xD
"IM QUEEN RHAENYRA NOW " ✨🖤
The woman “woo-ing” every five minutes got annoying fast.
she was way too drunk
yes omg so annoying
Usually I don’t mind but some of them were doing it every 2 minutes lol
Drunken morron seeking attention unfortunately.
That poor woman in front of her...
Alcohol and cameras.
11:02 I'm in love with this man always looking for him in the videos hahaha
I love that you are so shocked that daemon is choking rhaenyra. like he's some good guy. They kinda forgot that they hated him in the first two episodes.
like all the other characters: he is and he is not, simple as that.
@@deathprophet5088 yeah but not for the burlington bar. You can be evil and they hate you or you are a good guy and they love you.
I like how they cheer went daemon said I rather feed my sons to the dragon. But they get mad at the choking part 😂
"Clear the room". YAS QUEEN!! I just loved how they were building up for girl boss moment but switched it to show that Daemon is still a petulant and vicious asshole who will use violence to get what he wants. The mood in the room completely switched.
And what d0es Daem0n wants? He stands n0 chance bec0ming a king. In fact, it will be much m0re c0nvenient f0r him if Rhae surrenders t0 Aeg0n the usurper s0 he can spend the rest 0f his life gallivanting in sex 0rgy places in KL. His zeal0usness is t0 preserve the real Targaryen family, because if Aeg0n 2 wins, the Hight0wers will be the real h0use in p0wer.
Daemon showed he still had power over her, asserting himself, especially when they're alone. He listens to her when others are around in the room. But when he is on his own, or he is alone with her, he doesn't care what she says. He keeps up appearances for their allies, but he sees himself as in control.
It's good to see the bar as packed as it was back in the Game of Thrones days.
I understood daemon sentiments and at the same time rhaeneyra too. Daemon gone to madness, ready to wage war after finding out his brother's passing & the rebellion of greens while rhaeneyra refused with this bloodbath idea due to aegon's prophecy shared by his father. She grew up carrying the knowledge of duty that she has to unite and protect the realm in peace. A queen with bigger responsibilities and to set aside first her personal ambitions. Unfortunately, luke's tragic death was her last straw.
If n0t f0r Daem0n, The Blacks w0uld have l0st already. Rhae was ready t0 surrender. 0tt0 wins and puppet Aeg0n will rule with weakness and cruelty.
the gasp when she say "should i declare war becouse i angry?"
Also when it comes to the choking scene Emma (Rhaenyra) talked about it and said that Daemon was never and isn't violent with Rheanyra but that two tings happened in that scene: they said both were grieving and Daemon took it much worse and other is that he found out that Viserys never trusted him or saw him as heir and that broke him even more (not that he wanted the throne) and with mix of everything going on and people around him doing nothing he lost it while for Rhaenyra that was conformation that she was her's father choice from the start and thats why she half smiled at the end. All in all even the show writters and Emma toned down the scene which really makes me think they could've shown all of that the other way not choking but this gave the shock value so they went with it
@@dreamfyre3868 interviewer asked is Daemon violent with Rhaenyra in their marrige and Emma said no. This was the only time it happend is what they meant
Anyone with no brain who doesn’t understand the choke scene. Just go read what Emma and Ryan said about that scene.
That's just foreplay
You do know that choking isn’t alright in any circumstance? & Killing your first wife also is not? He was never a good guy wtf y’all are talking about😭😭😭
@@kylethompson3008 lol
I just love how the bar has been getting more and more packes each episode ❤️
For the worst its a circus now
@@thehoopman88 True
The fact that I'm annoyed watching the clip from yesterday. Imagine the people at the bar being with her for the whole entire episode. 😒 I prefer the regular watchers from early episodes not that I hate that the bar is full packed. Hehe
I CANNOT wait for the next season! I love you guys up there! This was a fun 10 episodes!! 🎉
I found disrespectful some people from the public to laugh and applaud in a scene where a mother had to get out her dead baby from her body... I lost my twin brother at the birth and still 26 years later it's still difficult for our family.
Yeah the was outrageous wtf wrong with these people 😒
Sorry to hear that also 😔
I think that's on you for being too easily offended, honestly. There's a big difference between how people react to a fantasy show versus real life. Some people also laugh or have weird mannerisms when dealing with shocking things/news.
So... ya'll just casually admitting you can't tell the difference between reality and fiction now?
@@Jonathan-om1wq Are we supposed to cry for those dead peasants that nobody mentions again or cares about in the show? Lmao
Quenn Rhaenyra Targaryen 👑
"HOUSE STARK IS NO OATH BREAKER"
HELL YEAH.
Enter Sansa
I 'm happy to see more people drinking than just sitting last time I've been there.
Animals can be contained and trained but not controlled, at the end of the day they're still animals and they're gonna do what they naturally do. Just ask the people who worked for the Tiger King lol
I like how when she said “clear the room” everyone got all excited because they thought she was about to flex then when she got grabbed by the throat everyone was like “you can’t dominate her like that! We wanted her to put you in your place!” 😂
Why is this so addictive to watch. I want to join in but live in the Uk😢
Good to see the bar packed, feels like GOT days
These folks cheer blindly in agreement with each other.
Glad they recaptured the magic of prime time Game of Thrones with this show, they will do this one justice and handle with care till the end
I imagine most of the people in a bar havnt a clue what's going on in the show. My evidence? They watched a dialogue heavy show in a bar. It's not football!!
They even clapped when Rhaenyra finally pushed out her stillborn🤦They seriously believed the baby would come out healthy despite all the obvious hints to the contrary. Wow, just wow.