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  • Toyota Hyryder Flop, Why a most interesting comparison of two almost identical siblings with minor differences in pricing, but significant differences in the badge on the hood Indian consumers always keep eyes on Resale Value....
    Grand Vitara sold 12821 units & Toyota Urban Cruiser Hyryder sold only 4547 Reasons are here..
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 985

  • @girishshenoy1829
    @girishshenoy1829 Рік тому +5

    Some negative: toyota needs to work on
    1. Boot space 250 ltr
    2. No fog lamps
    3. No cornering lamps
    4. No head room in back seats
    5. Plastic quality is not so great
    6. Sunshade can get teared off, also allows lot of ambient light and heat
    7. Front look needs a good improvement

  • @solidyoungsters
    @solidyoungsters Рік тому +3

    Sir, apki personal baised saaf sunai derahi hai, apke video ab logo ko gumrah krrahe hain!

  • @sandeepnkasal6
    @sandeepnkasal6 Рік тому +8

    I think your research is not correct and u have not understood the supply agreement between the two companies. Stop misleading with wrong information.

    • @AskCarGuru
      @AskCarGuru  Рік тому

      Have you seen the agreement? If not, please stay away from the propaganda by a salesman.

    • @sandeepnkasal6
      @sandeepnkasal6 Рік тому

      @@AskCarGuru yes i know the ratio and supply and seen closely.

    • @AskCarGuru
      @AskCarGuru  Рік тому

      You are wrong brother this time again, November sales figures is out, watch closely

    • @sandeepnkasal6
      @sandeepnkasal6 Рік тому

      @@AskCarGuru so your analysis is just based on sales is it? But not any other parameters.

  • @ronanduke6990
    @ronanduke6990 Рік тому +52

    Hyryder’s road presence will always be higher than that of Vitara because of Toyota’s branding. Consumers like me who are brand conscious will go for Toyota. I understand that resale value of Maruti will remain high in comparison but I would still prefer getting a better road presence and premium branding of Toyota anyday.

    • @VishneshwarReddy
      @VishneshwarReddy Рік тому

      Same feeling

    • @ashishdey9536
      @ashishdey9536 Рік тому

      I subscribe your point of view 👍

    • @thomasphilip1734
      @thomasphilip1734 Рік тому

      Resale of Toyota is always better than Maruti

    • @TECHanLIFE
      @TECHanLIFE Рік тому +3

      What will you do with road presence when at the end of the day, you are getting lower resale value 👎 bluntly speaking, your Toyota car will lose more value over the years as compared to maruti branding counterpart.

    • @bsudhiracharya
      @bsudhiracharya Рік тому

      Toyota's sales and service are not what they used to be. They first tried to sell me a recalled HyRyder in February, and then played an April Fool prank that was in very bad taste on 1st April, and then messaged me a month later that I would have to wait till January 2024. So I cancelled my booking.

  • @pm3211
    @pm3211 Рік тому +20

    With all due respect guruji, this is al planned and only a result of the production/sales sharing arrangement between the two companies, and Toyota anyhow does not go for mass sales as they donnotbhave the kind of reach and infrastructure maruti suzuki has (All auto experts know that , but i suppose Toyota erred by missing on inviting 'some' renowmed auto journalists for their media drive due to which not all auto experts are happy with Toyota and hence the negative backlash.

    • @kiranm25x
      @kiranm25x Рік тому

      Hyryder will be flop just like Yaris! Main reason Hybrid is too overpriced and non-hybrid model is 50K expensive than equivalent Vitara.

    • @manishkadam6935
      @manishkadam6935 Рік тому

      👍

    • @edwinbaiju7552
      @edwinbaiju7552 Рік тому

      Hybrid variant is 70 k expensive than the GV

    • @bsudhiracharya
      @bsudhiracharya Рік тому

      @@edwinbaiju7552 Top end Hybrid is more than Rupees One Lakh costlier in Grand Vitara compared to Hyryder, and also Toyota is giving much more warranty compared to Grand Vitara, both in terms of years as well as kilometres.

  • @shylendranravichandran9017
    @shylendranravichandran9017 Рік тому +20

    As far as I can see, the clear demarcation appears to be that, petrol buyers are going for Grand Vitara since Suzuki engine and cheaper that hyryder and hybrid buyers are going for Toyota because it is Toyota's technology and hyryder hybrid is cheaper than grandvitara. So, if you could get us seperate sales figures of the mild hybrid and strong hybrid versons of each of them, that would give us a better picture of the situation.

    • @vinnysehgal1265
      @vinnysehgal1265 Рік тому +2

      Lol... hyryder is cheaper bro. Base varient is 12.38 on road delhi for hyryder and for grad vitara its 12.58

    • @bsudhiracharya
      @bsudhiracharya Рік тому +1

      Yes. Grand Vitara is cheaper for the mild hybrid variants and HyRyder is cheaper for the strong hybrid variants. That could be due to royalty issues for the engine technology of the two different types of engines used.

  • @abhishekrawat4694
    @abhishekrawat4694 Рік тому +16

    Toyota showrooms are so arrogant. I booked both cars, Grand vitara and Hyryder. Finally purchased zeta AT. Main reason of back look and second arrogant behavior of Toyota showrooms- all of them as if they are trained like this( Toyota is Toyota).
    Even they are creating issue in returning booking amount

    • @AskCarGuru
      @AskCarGuru  Рік тому +12

      Ego is high...

    • @Homeaquarium07
      @Homeaquarium07 Рік тому +3

      100% agree… I have visited 4 times but Toyota employees are in different mindset….so much attitude and arrogance

    • @subhashgupta4976
      @subhashgupta4976 Рік тому +1

      SUV 200 kab ayegi aur arkanA kab ayegi

    • @anshulsharma9131
      @anshulsharma9131 Рік тому +5

      I totally agree with you. I went to toyota with my family for the test drive and the behaviour was awful.
      All of us were so angry with the sales executive.
      Even after the unveiling and Launch the showcase product or test drive vehicle wasn't there and they asked us to check the Hyryder which was standing outside the showroom for delivery.
      They are so unprofessional that when we asked to make a complain and started to leave, they insisted us to check the delivery vehicle in which the customer was already sitting.
      Such bad experience. How can we just go and sit in somebody's brand new car in which the owners were already sitting and taking the demo.
      But then we went to another Toyota showroom where the service was good and they even gave us good test drive. But again the waiting period is just so huge.
      8-10 months which is almost an year and the price revision is done multiple times during a span of 1 year and in that period there will be other launches from other brands as well.

    • @bharatkhanna007
      @bharatkhanna007 Рік тому +4

      Even the showroom in our area Dehradun Uttarakahnd does not have test drive vehicle and they don’t even seems to be bothered about it. When toyota started hyryder deliveries everywhere our dealer was telling lies that deliveries have not started. Toyota is great company at core but their dealer training team sucks. I think just because your are successful with fortuner and innova, you should not be arrogant this much. A live example is Ratan Tata after being so successful he is even more humble. Its time that toyota learn and respect customers

  • @Robin-bz6wv
    @Robin-bz6wv Рік тому +1

    Bandar kya jani adrak k suwad 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @satishgupta9608
    @satishgupta9608 Рік тому +7

    The main problem with Maruti is its after sales service centers.. when I go to service center I feel I came at bhindi Bazar.. and when I pay for service cost then I feel I am paying for luxury car service..

  • @ashwaniagarwal2327
    @ashwaniagarwal2327 Рік тому +1

    I have taken the screenshot of this video's title. Lets hope that you don't delete this video in future.
    Thanks

  • @sekharreddy977
    @sekharreddy977 Рік тому +161

    Hi I am a Specialist Doctor I purchased Toyota hyryder high end last month..am extremely happy n it impressed all my friends..Actual delivery started Septrmber 28th in 12 days it Sold 1100 vehicle.october sold 3300 at this rates they can sell around 40 thousand vehicle in a year vehicle. 100 cars per day that is decent in numbers..I watch your channel regularly 90 perecent of times u r genuine..Remaining some how for some brands u r not in favour of them.Anyhow u r a good technical analyser of cars.

    • @alone77_ofc30
      @alone77_ofc30 Рік тому +36

      Thanks for supporting toyota bruh this guy is not at all fair according to this video...

    • @bhupi2110
      @bhupi2110 Рік тому +14

      I completely agree with you Mr Sekhar👍

    • @sohiosohlo1846
      @sohiosohlo1846 Рік тому +24

      Is totley uncle ne ye to bataya nhi ki toyota world pe raaj kyon karti hai
      Vaise bhi hyrider and grand vitara same hi hai thoda bahut looks ka hi to farak hai
      So dono ki sales combine karoge to creta se uper hi jayengi
      Maine bhi kaafi dino se hyrider lene ki soch raha hu grand vitara k baare mein toh soch bhi nhi sakta
      Kyoki toyota to toyota hai bhai
      Pta nhi konsa nasha karte hain ye uncle ji

    • @satishgupta9608
      @satishgupta9608 Рік тому +5

      Amit tendon ji ne starting se hi maruti ko support karte aa rahe he.. inko Maruti se kuch jyada hi lawav hai ya fir inka kuch personal interest Juda hai maruti se..

    • @sohiosohlo1846
      @sohiosohlo1846 Рік тому +10

      Itna hi lagaav hai Maruti k sath toh khud kyo Scoda superb rakhi hai uncle ji ne ?

  • @manoranjanpaul5067
    @manoranjanpaul5067 Рік тому +1

    I have cancelled my hyryder booking after 3 months as Toyota dealer is so pathetic and adamant! No one idiot dealer Wasan Toyota Navi mumbai

  • @TheDiaryOfAFailure7
    @TheDiaryOfAFailure7 Рік тому +17

    Dear Sir, i think most of the sales for Grand Vitara are from Mild Hybrid Variant , and not from Strong Hybrid Versions, while Sales of Toyota reflects higher strong Hybrid Sales . This is based on my own survey of 3 dealerships of Maruti and 1 dealership of Toyota in the City of Ludhiana, Punjab ( one of the biggest markets for cars in Punjab)
    Please do also consider this and see what are the ratios of sales from Hybrid and Strong Hybrid variants

    • @skvilangara
      @skvilangara Рік тому +1

      Foolish talk he is not clarifying the model

    • @blackswan6963
      @blackswan6963 Рік тому

      you are absolutely right.....HYBRID is still a new fangled concept......till the world decides, whether we are going all out Electric or Green Hydrogen this is a product made for the interim period !! so most people hedging their bets by going in for a mild hybrid, which Maruti is calling it SMART HYBRID !!

  • @erashutosh1
    @erashutosh1 Рік тому +2

    Kya pagal aadami hai ye

    • @imaysin97
      @imaysin97 Рік тому

      Ye maruti ka bohot bada fanboy hai.

  • @gauravbawase4110
    @gauravbawase4110 Рік тому +6

    Needs confirmation but I heard somewhere that Toyota has allotted 15-16K production to Suzuki GV and 5-6K production to its own Hyryder..probably anticipating public demand for Suzuki products. If true then it is very likely that Toyota may be able to sell upto 5-6K car per month on full capacity unless they increase assembly lines. It may also be a low risk strategy in the long term considering their experience with Glanza - Baleno thing they did in the past. They just need to come up and declare they are increasing the production from so and so date and deliveries will begin shortly for bookings done.
    Only time will tell.

    • @neksinghthakur5452
      @neksinghthakur5452 Рік тому +1

      I think you are right. I read it one of the post in team BHP. I hope Carguru has validated this allocation fact.

    • @shankargs414
      @shankargs414 Рік тому

      This is main reason. Good point. On their own production line giving Suzuki the edge. I think low production output is the reason for low sales numbers. And sunroof qlty is a weak point. Wish they had not done unnecessary cost cutting there.

  • @UNIGAMERZ
    @UNIGAMERZ Рік тому +1

    Taataal aadmj chup rha to too na jaane khuch bhi jaa kaaam kr apno

  • @vikramvig
    @vikramvig Рік тому +10

    Amit sir. You mentioned kicks and hyryder... for me both are amazing and fun to drive, especially hyryder full hybrid..I'm sure full hybrid variants of hyryder will sell more to grand Vitara..just thoda aur intezar

    • @AskCarGuru
      @AskCarGuru  Рік тому +3

      यही कहा है पूरी विडियो में, कि अच्छी cars का poor marketing भी flop कराती है..
      लोग बात का तत्व नहीं समझते हैं, toyota nissan करने लगे.

    • @svijaymba
      @svijaymba Рік тому

      @@AskCarGuru
      Should I book Hyrider s hybrid or it will be my Yaris fate discontinued

    • @vijaymsl
      @vijaymsl Рік тому

      @@AskCarGuru alto sales are more so as do you suggest to buy alto inplace of grand vitara 😀

  • @JackRyan1
    @JackRyan1 Рік тому +1

    Delete kar do uncle ye video... Jhand ho gayi h aapki... It is a successful product of Toyota

    • @AskCarGuru
      @AskCarGuru  Рік тому

      क्यों, क्या Creta से ज्यादा बिक रहा हैं? , क्या Seltos से ज्यादा बिक रहा है? , क्या Grand vitara से ज्यादा बिक रहा है?
      फिर कैसे hit हो गया? सच से मिर्ची लगती है और तुमको ज्यादा लगी है... इतनी तो खुद Toyota को नहीं लगी.

  • @sardarji007
    @sardarji007 Рік тому +3

    Hello sir 🙏

  • @joyguha77
    @joyguha77 Рік тому +1

    Are you visited every toyota showroom to see customer volume? Actual reality is that Toyota never invited you in their launch programs, also you are always promoted maruti.

    • @AskCarGuru
      @AskCarGuru  Рік тому

      You are idiot... Clip देख रहे हो invite की ही है, fortuner का review भी देखा होगा, वो भी Toyota ने घर भेजी थी हफ़्तों के लिए....
      आप पक्के वाले idiot हो... जानते कुछ नहीं मेरे बारे में.

  • @nikhildhariwal4294
    @nikhildhariwal4294 Рік тому +3

    This is total sales number - I would prefer to see the bifurcation of strong hybrid and mild hybrid sales of both Maruti Grand Vitara and Toyota Hyryder. I have personally seen both cars and test driven both.
    My perspective is Maruti is selling mild hybrid which is at lower price point and Toyota is getting customers for strong hybrid - which is expensive and hence lesser numbers. Time will tell the story.
    Personally for me, I would be comfortable to buy a Toyota Hyryder if it is strong hybrid - it is Toyota time tested technology and I will be very uncomfortable to send a strong hybrid to Maruti engineers. Toyota india is managing service of Toyota Camry which has strong hybrid and has experience to handle such cars

  • @alokdumbre
    @alokdumbre Рік тому +1

    I went to toyota show room to buy hyryder...they say need to wait for 10months

    • @AskCarGuru
      @AskCarGuru  Рік тому

      Why as they have own factory & hyryder is not in top 25 & grand vitara is in. Why grand vitara have customer to buy? 3 times more even after 6 months.

  • @Kunalpruthi
    @Kunalpruthi Рік тому +7

    Thank you for this video Sir. Customer is also thinking that Toyota is bringing maruti's car like Baleno or Brezza by just their logo.. now it is better to buy from maruti rather than buying rebadged same product from Toyota. I hope that Toyota break that image with Hycross

    • @vinnysehgal1265
      @vinnysehgal1265 Рік тому +1

      Check the engine warranty and paint quality. Maruti is just CHEAP (not price wise) but its just CHEAP COMPANY

  • @rajansapre4865
    @rajansapre4865 Рік тому +12

    Amit ji , I am a fan of yours you are spot on in your analysis. Toyota has always been a arrogant company. Look at Qualis that was a beginning it had roaring sales because except Mahindra no one had a SUV. But still look how cautious they were always underestimating Indian market and customers. Globally no company has the product lineup in SUVs like Toyota, including their Subaru brand .But they always messed up in India, their cars never sold. Maruti can not be matched in terms of dealership network , service points and of course resale value as rightly pointed by you. Only two companies have understood Indian customers in this country Maruti and Hyundai ( Creta has 27 variants) they touch each price point .
    I am also a proud owner of a Grand Vitara , having bought it yesterday .
    Thank You.

    • @AskCarGuru
      @AskCarGuru  Рік тому +3

      Great analysis, please share how is your car, please share your experience with us 🙏

    • @alone77_ofc30
      @alone77_ofc30 Рік тому

      Maruti and Hyundai have the worst safety rating FYI ...Indians are always money minded who don't even consider safety...
      FYI ur grand vitara's hybrid engine is toyota's.

    • @siddharthaacharjee8656
      @siddharthaacharjee8656 Рік тому +1

      Please request, buy grand Vitara all of you ,.

  • @ritesh31kumar
    @ritesh31kumar Рік тому +1

    Please don't make videos based on your preconceived notions! There is ample demand for Hyryder but nobody is able to get Hyryder deliveries. I booked Hyryder on 20th July 2022, still have no information by when the car will be delivered. I know people who booked as early as first week of July and still haven't got the delivery. Dealerships are not getting any allotment of cars, go to any dealership and you can confirm it. You should do proper research as to why this is happening. Some people are claiming that there are issues in the factory, but since GV deliveries are going on smoothly the issue seems to be something else. Maybe Toyota is controlling supply so that it can increase prices in the near future, but something is really fishy. Just go to Twitter and see how many people are fed up of Toyota because of this.

    • @ritesh31kumar
      @ritesh31kumar Рік тому +2

      Eventually I will also have to go for Grand Vitara because I can't wait endlessly. This is the real reason why the sales figures of GV are higher.

    • @AskCarGuru
      @AskCarGuru  Рік тому

      Do you know any thing about loyalty fee? If not, start studying

    • @ritesh31kumar
      @ritesh31kumar Рік тому +2

      @@AskCarGuru For starters at least I know the spelling of "royalty fees" unlike you. I know very well about it, but sadly it was not one of the reasons that you gave in your video. If you're making a video, please do proper research beforehand.

  • @deepanshjawrani
    @deepanshjawrani Рік тому +4

    I don’t agree with your resale point. Toyota has always had great resale because of quality of service. The difference is ofcourse the convenience of Suzuki service centers, but more than anything else, Marketing. I remember seeing so many ads of Grand Vitara, but none of the Hyryder.

    • @AskCarGuru
      @AskCarGuru  Рік тому +12

      Etios, platinum, yaris, corolla.... List is endless with poor resale value..

    • @deepanshjawrani
      @deepanshjawrani Рік тому +2

      @@AskCarGuru What? None of these are SUVs anyway. And we all know how the Sedan segment has declined. Every Model of the Qualis, Innova, Fortuner, Land Cruiser had great resale. Sedans as a segment hasn’t been popular in India. Sedans like Civic, Superb, Octavia, Jetta, none of them were successful.

    • @IrfanKhan-yv4pt
      @IrfanKhan-yv4pt Рік тому +1

      @@deepanshjawrani what about city, amaze, verna and slavia?? They are still in top in the charts of sedan segment

    • @deepanshjawrani
      @deepanshjawrani Рік тому +1

      @@IrfanKhan-yv4pt they top the charts in sedans but when it comes to overall they can’t compete with SUVs. Look at City and Verna sales 5 years ago and now, you will notice how the segment has declined massively

    • @binnymehta6973
      @binnymehta6973 Рік тому +1

      @@AskCarGuru 👍🏻

  • @rajendraagrawal5378
    @rajendraagrawal5378 Рік тому +1

    Toyota should break association with maruti it brings negative /down grade toyotas brand image it is just like branded (eg Raymond ) selling fashion Street footpathwala. And then compair sell it wil be definitely very very low Because customer comming to branded shop will not even consider that it is below his dignity

  • @HealthyRahul
    @HealthyRahul Рік тому +8

    Hi, thanks for the video. Just one thing Hyryder currently have a waiting period of more than 6 months in Delhi NCR. The prices of Hyryder were announced quite late as compared to Grand vitara and that may be the reason for less sales during this period. Anyways I don't think that Hyryder and Grand vitara would have equal sales considering the points that you have already mentioned in your video. As per my understanding the Hyryder is also a success and we will see more sales in the coming months, thanks...what do you say?

    • @AskCarGuru
      @AskCarGuru  Рік тому

      100% wrong information reached out to you

    • @sushilyadav2776
      @sushilyadav2776 10 місяців тому

      I too agree...there is high waiting period . It is also dragging their sales figure!!!

  • @rabindrakumarsahu7744
    @rabindrakumarsahu7744 Рік тому +1

    आपने जो बात करी वह हंड्रेड परसेंट सही है सर

  • @wfor7254
    @wfor7254 Рік тому +5

    The only major reason why hyryder is not selling like Creta or Grand vitara is because Toyota doesn't have the reach/presence in many rural / urban areas still where Maruti and Hyundai are present other reasons mentioned by you in this video are very small. Also, as you said Toyota is earning even with each sale of Grand vitara you know that yourself Amit Ji as long as they are making money without expansion they would enjoy that why won't they ?

  • @nationfirst4281
    @nationfirst4281 Рік тому +1

    CAR GURU FLOP

  • @godhwania
    @godhwania Рік тому +9

    I believe Maruti has bigger network thus the sale, Toyota would be more than happy with these numbers and additional supply to Maruti. Its more about making money.

    • @AskCarGuru
      @AskCarGuru  Рік тому +5

      Toyota is one of the most loved brand in India but now brand loosening there goodness in India.

    • @parimalpurohit6805
      @parimalpurohit6805 Рік тому +1

      True said sir ji ✅

  • @nikhilchavhan3038
    @nikhilchavhan3038 Рік тому +1

    a toyota ne india me maruti Suzuki se hat mila ke galat kiya....etna acha product suzuki maja mar raha hai lekar.....a chij innova hycross ke sath na ho

    • @AskCarGuru
      @AskCarGuru  Рік тому +1

      Indian market को brand को समझने में गलतियां कर रहे हैं

    • @nikhilchavhan3038
      @nikhilchavhan3038 Рік тому

      @@AskCarGuru apne mujhe reply kiya bahut acha laga thanku ..mai apki videos kuch salose dek raha hu

  • @blessandrew9325
    @blessandrew9325 Рік тому +7

    I read somewhere Maruti and Toyota made agreement to sell this product 70:30 ratio. Since maruti has more sales network, a major chunk goes to them. So total sales depends on production capacity as well.

    • @AskCarGuru
      @AskCarGuru  Рік тому +2

      Ask them to share contracts in true copy... Rubbish... हारे हुए चमचे.. झूठी बातें बनाते हैं.

    • @ritesshhahuja6102
      @ritesshhahuja6102 Рік тому +14

      @@AskCarGuru please be professional in your responses to your subscribers even if you disagree

    • @pm3211
      @pm3211 Рік тому +15

      @@ritesshhahuja6102 he is somehow acting like a loser just because Toyota did not invite him for the launch of Hyryder!

    • @THUGPUTIN
      @THUGPUTIN Рік тому +3

      @@AskCarGuru this is really bad analysis guruji...
      Remember this is toyota made product in toyota plant... So basically they are making profit on both vitara and hyryder but extra profit for toyota badge... It's not like they are going bankrupt...
      Selling more grand vitara means more sales for toyota 😂🤣😂...

    • @digvijayjayakar8397
      @digvijayjayakar8397 Рік тому +3

      @@AskCarGuru 😂😂😂are bhaisaab , uncle aap to kafi rude ho yar 😂

  • @jaymax9560
    @jaymax9560 Рік тому +1

    Sir Ji. In Delhi example alone there are 2 dealers MGF Toyota and Galaxy Toyota . Nexa has Many more. I walked into Toyota they are quoting 9-12 Months wait depending on the variant. Suzuki is quoting 7-9 Months. I booked mine before the launch. Toyota Base petrol is only Rs 3,000 more and gives an extra year of warranty. This didn't matter to me as I bought a 5-year warranty which is available with both companies. Toyota Badge was worth Rs. 3,000 more for me and I believe Toyota styling is much superior.
    You are forgetting Grand Vitara deliveries started 15 days before Hyryder. That is a much better head start.

    • @manishkadam6935
      @manishkadam6935 Рік тому

      🔥🔥Keep both SUV beside ' दूध का दूध पाणी का पाणी हो जाए गा' . Hyrider looks premium .

  • @sachinawaghade
    @sachinawaghade Рік тому +4

    Both cars are made on same assembly line , shares same parts , tomorrow we can see maruti will service Toyota cars as well .
    He gives good reviews and suggestion videos are very helpful for car buyers but This video looks like “Aaj toh company ki bajavunga “

  • @hafizmalek4302
    @hafizmalek4302 Рік тому +2

    U have missed an important factor of strong hybrid n mild hybrid.. show us the selling numbers for both mild n strong hybrid separately.. n compare accordingly.. creta seltos starts from 12.5 lacs up to 22 lacs.. so max buyer range between 12.5 to 16 lacs.. here comes grand vitara mild hybrid in the same range.. but hyryder is selling mostly strong hybrid which starts at 17.5 lacs.. so buyer base will be reduced n so are the selling numbers..

  • @spmotions2012
    @spmotions2012 Рік тому +7

    Pricing to dono ki same hai.. But your inclination is towards grand vitara.. You are criticizing hyryder from its launching 🤔

    • @thyag26
      @thyag26 Рік тому

      It is really funny when some people speak like Nostradamus !

  • @sureshmoudgilmoudgil1741
    @sureshmoudgilmoudgil1741 Місяць тому

    I bought Hyeyder G Neodrive AT(TC) in May 2024...Excellent performance of Hyryder G Neodrive AT... Sajan re jhooth mat bolo... Khuda ke paas jana hai
    S K Sharma 11-D
    Chandigarh

  • @bsudhiracharya
    @bsudhiracharya Рік тому +4

    Lesser sales of Hybrid has nothing to do with demand. Hyryder still enjoys a long waiting list. It is because the car is based on Suzuki's TECT Platform and manufactured at the factory of Toyota Kirloskar Motors Limited at Bidadi, near Bengaluru, in higher ratio for Suzuki (Suzuki:Toyota = 3:1). Hence, naturally the ratio of release of car to the buyers will be in the ratio of 3:1 in favour of Suzuki.

    • @svijaymba
      @svijaymba Рік тому

      What is the safety can expect 4 star with structure stability

    • @LaughLoveLifestyle
      @LaughLoveLifestyle Рік тому

      Dabba car with maruti platform 🤣🤣🤣 0 safety.

    • @bsudhiracharya
      @bsudhiracharya Рік тому

      @@svijaymba It is based on Suzuki's TECT Platform that has 4-Star safety rating in Brezza, and not on Global C. So we can expect 4-star rating for both HyRyder and Grand Vitara. Meanwhile, the waiting period for top-end HyRyder Strong Hybrid V that was 4-6 months during October 2022 has now increased to 15 months, and expected date of delivery for bookings made in October 2022 is January 2024, in stark contrast to just 6 weeks for the equivalent variant in Grand Vitara (Intelligent Electric Hybrid Alpha+).

    • @svijaymba
      @svijaymba Рік тому +1

      @@bsudhiracharya
      Convinced logos

    • @svijaymba
      @svijaymba Рік тому +1

      @@bsudhiracharya
      Logic

  • @subodhdeshwal-f6l
    @subodhdeshwal-f6l Місяць тому

    My Toyota Hyryder delivery is due after seeing all the commetns about Toyota dealership experience, thinking should i take the risk or not.

  • @varuunbajaj6861
    @varuunbajaj6861 Рік тому +2

    I went to Toyota showroom in gurgaon, they told me that the waiting is of 12 months.. the sales numbers paint a different picture

  • @JaiHind23298
    @JaiHind23298 Рік тому

    Toyota na MBA log marketing ma Lisa ha Bina extensive field experience ka , Pappu ha marketing 😂

  • @Jassimran_Singh
    @Jassimran_Singh Рік тому +7

    As per the agreement 70 percent of the production has to be shipped to Maruti. That’s why the numbers are high from Maruti. If Toyota reduces the waiting periods, the car will be seen everywhere and you will see a huge jump in the sales.

    • @AskCarGuru
      @AskCarGuru  Рік тому

      आपके पास copy है agreement की? जब आपने देखा नहीं है, तो फर्जी बहानों पर भरोसा क्यों.?

    • @Jassimran_Singh
      @Jassimran_Singh Рік тому +11

      @@AskCarGuru Sir With no disrespect, do you verify everything before speaking out loud? I am saying this because I have a friend in a Toyota dealership on a high post. He told me this even before the deliveries began.
      So I cannot ask him to write this officially and send it over to me.
      Also verify the fact that people are shifting towards Maruti only because they are getting deliveries faster.
      I know some people who still have booked Toyota over Maruti and won’t shift to Vitara even if it is available.
      I too will buy a Toyota over Maruti.
      And this car will be a success.
      Also I do agree with you on the Toyota pricing strategy.
      Companies follow Toyota, they are the ones who have been hiking the prices like anything.

    • @svijaymba
      @svijaymba Рік тому

      @@Jassimran_Singh
      Shud I go ahead book Hyrider or Škoda kudhaq

    • @ashishgurung1417
      @ashishgurung1417 Рік тому

      ​@@Jassimran_Singh ekdum bro
      Samajdar ke liye ishara hi kafi

  • @jugdol7
    @jugdol7 Місяць тому

    unnecessary pause lengthens the video n irritates d viewer. just kip it short n simple.

  • @chawanchauhan9308
    @chawanchauhan9308 Рік тому +3

    I had booked hyryder...but hyryder also getting delay...

  • @KumarWidYou
    @KumarWidYou 10 місяців тому +1

    भारतीय बाजार में वही जगह बना सकता है जो अच्छी लुक्स के साथ प्रोडक्ट की कीमत कम रख सके। सुजुकी यूं ही नंबर 1 नही ले जाती है हर बार।

  • @bharatkhanna007
    @bharatkhanna007 Рік тому +7

    I love the fact that you don’t fear to speak the truth hence I feel proud to follow you since you initially started this beautiful chanel. Keep it up 👍🏻

    • @AskCarGuru
      @AskCarGuru  Рік тому +3

      Thanks, keep sharing your thoughts and honest opinion with us, it help us to understand what viewers loves.
      God bless you brother

  • @sRaut28
    @sRaut28 Рік тому

    Hello what you talking, you seems very prejudice.. Toyota makes Best Solid, Reliable, Best mileage Family cars..
    Come to Middle East, US, Australia.. about every 5th Car is Toyota.. even I am driving my RAV4 since 2014(250K kms) and booked Highlander in March but due to lots of order and less capacity in Japan they returned my money.. you are saying stories in bad sense..
    Just Indian market need cheaper cars like Suzuki which no one takes here.. third rate unsafe box..
    that’s why Toyota took decision to have collaboration with Suzuki which is highly contradictory in there style of work.. however one day you will see Toyota takes over Indian market.. everyone will realise..

  • @pratikdixit3791
    @pratikdixit3791 Рік тому +3

    Nice and informative video carguru .toyota has to keep prices low .their products are much more expensive than competition .classic example was Yaris.

    • @piyushkmanand4994
      @piyushkmanand4994 Рік тому

      It is certainly impossible, bcz, it is a imported car, so government of india imposes high import duty on it, and later on 28 percent gst on it, and then insurance and rto, which makes the car overall expensive of half the total rate of car price on road 😪 , .

  • @govindjoshi8171
    @govindjoshi8171 8 місяців тому

    Toyota always great than Maruti…in built quality, comfort and specially strong hybrid engine is from Toyota which boosting now sales of Hyryder in strong hybrid version.

  • @sevakmurali
    @sevakmurali Рік тому +3

    Respected Amit Ji ,
    It’s too early to decide. According to me if not more than GV, atleast hyryder will sell substantial numbers(5000 Plus/month).It will give highest numbers for Toyota.

    • @AskCarGuru
      @AskCarGuru  Рік тому +5

      Why they discontinued urban cruiser? Just to get decent numbers for hyryder.
      Suzuki haven't done so... They can easily sell Brezza & grand vitara in good numbers. Why Toyota can't do?
      In rest of the countries Toyota is known for selling products at higher prices, all top auto experts have raised the matter multiple times...
      Making money is actually decreasing goodwill... In India they shamelessly discontinued etios, platinum, etios cross, corolla... Yaris

    • @sevakmurali
      @sevakmurali Рік тому +2

      I agree about these facts. I am only referring to hyryder. Point 1. You cannot call it a flop so early. Point 2. Maruti price for hybrid is more than Toyota hybrid of Hyryder.. Point 3. Hyryder has bookings waiting for than 50000 no’s. My request is not to call it a flop so early. Thank You Amitji🙏

    • @AskCarGuru
      @AskCarGuru  Рік тому +2

      50000 bookings... Who told you without facts.. Dealerships झूठ बोलते हैं. They even don't have any information.

    • @svijaymba
      @svijaymba Рік тому

      In Hyderabad they are telling wait for 6 months Hyrider some small cities come in 2024

  • @svijaymba
    @svijaymba Рік тому

    That’s why bought Skoda Kushaq 1.5 DSG cancelled hyrider s hybrid

  • @rajeshangane9135
    @rajeshangane9135 Рік тому +3

    Very true analysis of Toyota & hopefully Toyota will seriously look into their coming product & atleast marketing team of Toyota will do to boost their products

  • @pardeeppunia2008
    @pardeeppunia2008 Рік тому

    Hello Amit Ji, you are wrong in your predictions, Hyryder selling well in Chandigarh & Punjab

  • @nagaprasad2254
    @nagaprasad2254 Рік тому +4

    You mentioned 2 reasons a) Serviceability b) Resale value and you gave the example of Kicks , However; if its the case How come Magnite having good sales? The same reasons will apply to Magnite too. Isn't it ? Not sure if u meant something else apart from the 2 reasons for the low sales of Hyryder .

    • @anandhajyothi2681
      @anandhajyothi2681 Рік тому

      I think what Naga Prasad analogy is perfect. When magnite is doing good but kick is failing. If we look at the examples shown in the video on Creta Vs Seltos, both are doing good because they try to differentiate their product in their own strengths. Creta is like Maruti but KIA is smart enough to present the product in a different style and user friendly small, small things make big difference to customers. I think Toyota never can match the number of Suzuki in India until they differentiate their products with their own technology strengths..

  • @ravindersinghsethi7432
    @ravindersinghsethi7432 Рік тому

    Sir for everyone's knowledge I want to tell that smart hybrid engine is made by Maruti & that is why sales of Maruti are high..Smart hybrid is bit cheap technology then Strong Hybrid & starting price of the car on road is 12.30 lakh.. Everyone know that Maruti is giving this smart hybrid engine to Toyota..
    Now talking about Strong Hybrid engine that is being made by Toyota & i have already told you the price of this engine is bit higher side as compared to Smart hybrid..
    Toyota has started its Strong Hybrid range from 17.50 lakh on road,though Maruti is selling it's strong hybrid in 20.00 lakh..
    For Comparison between both the engine's you can check on UA-cam itself..
    So Toyota is itself a big & reputated brand worldwide which needs no introduction.. Sale's of the car will raise

  • @rvijay3333
    @rvijay3333 Рік тому +11

    Hello Amit Sir,
    You definitely made a point here. I was expecting that the strong hybrid will take over the current C segment vehicles head on and so far it hasn't happened. Let's give it a couple more months. Thank you for making this video.

    • @AskCarGuru
      @AskCarGuru  Рік тому +5

      Keep sharing your thoughts and honest opinion with us, good luck brother

    • @vinodbajpai8718
      @vinodbajpai8718 Рік тому

      Sir I booked both the car basic model which is best to buy pl.advise

    • @VipinYadav-nf2xy
      @VipinYadav-nf2xy Рік тому

      Jai hind sir mene bhi price dekh kar planning chenge kar di abhi grand vitara book ki hai

    • @ritesh31kumar
      @ritesh31kumar Рік тому +1

      I booked Hyryder on 20th July, still no idea by when it'll get delivered. I know people who booked as early as first week of July and are still waiting. There is no problem in marketing or any other such thing as claimed in this video. Either Toyota is controlling the supply artificially or there are some issues in the production, something is really fishy. Maybe it is more profitable for Toyota to manufacture GV, who knows.

    • @bsudhiracharya
      @bsudhiracharya Рік тому

      @@ritesh31kumar As both Grand Vitara and Hyryder are based on Suzuki's TECT platform and the only parts from Toyota in both cars are the Strong Hybrid Engine and Motor, Toyota is under contractual obligation to manufacture 3 units of Grand Vitara for every unit of HyRyder manufactured by them.

  • @shubhambatra3462
    @shubhambatra3462 Рік тому +1

    Only Hyryder❤

  • @adarshbhatt5513
    @adarshbhatt5513 Рік тому +3

    You are really Guru in Automobile field 🙏🙏

    • @AskCarGuru
      @AskCarGuru  Рік тому +1

      Thanks

    • @vijaymsl
      @vijaymsl Рік тому

      There are far better gurus, you are limited in exploring mate

  • @ponty1001
    @ponty1001 Рік тому

    Grand vitara October sales 8052.
    Grand Vitara November sales 4433.
    Now your assessment is totally proven wrong as Maruti losses half of it's market share from previous month

  • @chiragjetely
    @chiragjetely Рік тому +11

    I am a Suzuki owner since 2011. Had, Alto, Baleno Alpha and Ignish Alpha AMT. Now planning to upgrade and took a test drive of Hyryder Strong hybrid twice. No doubt, the product is amazing. But as soon as we stepped into Nexa again to see Grand Vitara, the magic happened again and I booked Grand Vitara Strong Hybrid Alpha Plus with an extra 50,000 as compared to Hyryder. I know people will judge me but as mentioned in this video, the gap between the resale of both vehicles will be more than 50K and I am getting a better-looking car now.

    • @AskCarGuru
      @AskCarGuru  Рік тому +2

      Thanks for the sharing your experience with us, do not forget to share your ownership experience with us too. Thanks

    • @drpkagarwal3324
      @drpkagarwal3324 Рік тому +1

      Did you find the gear shift of eCVT bit hard?

    • @ayush4565
      @ayush4565 Рік тому

      Maruti parts and service will be cheaper+ resale will cover that 50k difference

    • @vinnysehgal1265
      @vinnysehgal1265 Рік тому +1

      Resale 🤣🤣🤣. Cheap Indian mentality that you buy cars for its resale value.
      Check the basic warrenty on the engine. Toyota is far better than stupid maruti. Also toyota design is premium maruti feels cheap.
      Corolla still sells, maruti ki aukat ni is class ki gadi bech sake. Because it's CHEAP.
      EVEN TATA CAN SELL HARRIER WORTH 25 LAKHS BUT MARUTI KE PASS IS CATEGORY KA PRODUCT HI NAI. BECAUSE MARUTI = CHEAP

    • @arindomrajkhowa1915
      @arindomrajkhowa1915 Рік тому +1

      ​@@vinnysehgal1265 exctly and who wants resale value when you have money 🤣

  • @shail600
    @shail600 Рік тому

    Aapka रिव्यू बहुत ही सॉलिड रहा अभी तक ऐसा ही है जिसकी वजह से hyryder अभी बहुत पीछे है लोगो को ललचाने में

  • @edwinbaiju7552
    @edwinbaiju7552 Рік тому +4

    I think most of the people are going for mild hybrid variants and they are cheaper in grand vitara while the strong hybrid variants are cheaper in Toyota side. So the sales figures difference may be due to that. If we check the sales of creta and delirious, the most selling variants are the mid variants and that shows that the vehicle between 12 - 17 lakhs are sold mojorly and in that price point the mild hybrid engines are mostly available and not the strong hybrid.

    • @ayush4565
      @ayush4565 Рік тому

      Strong hybrid bhi grabd vitara ka cheaper hoga if you count resale.
      Maruti strong reslae will cover the cost difference

    • @ritesh31kumar
      @ritesh31kumar Рік тому

      It is nearly impossible to get Hyryder. I booked on 20th July, still no idea when it'll get delivered. The figures are low because Toyota is not alloting cars, there's something fishy.

  • @kaushikofficial
    @kaushikofficial Рік тому

    Bhai 3k for a toyota brand is less? More than 50% Customer will always go to Maruti, just like most 45+ will always go with LIC rather than any other reliable and cheaper insurance....Maruti wale safe khelne wale hote hai...not ones to take risk even when they offer paper like quality in thier steel for safety! Toyota will count Hyryder as a success wait n watch. Thanks for an irritating Flop video.
    P.S. I'm not Hyryder owner

  • @twobrothers-
    @twobrothers- Рік тому +3

    Your big big fan sir🙏.....most reliable car reviewer present in India

  • @letsthrottle7308
    @letsthrottle7308 Рік тому +1

    Looks like all the You tubers have decided together to defame Toyota as they do not allow videos at their premises😂. Toyota is getting handsome bookings on the Hyrider and they are the leaders in Hybrid systems. Only things is that Grand vitara looks are pleasing due to its superb lights and Hyrider is bit ok ok.
    Both have tied up together to share their technologies and become the market leaders in compact SUVs as both were lagging since long & Creta/Seltos were the king for long now.

  • @gautamsanyal4527
    @gautamsanyal4527 Рік тому +3

    I’m a diehard Suzuki fan presently driving the SCross AT. This product is very good and well priced. Whilst Toyota is the leading car manufacturer worldwide it must respect Indian mentality and price it’s vehicles accordingly. The Grand VITARA also looks better with cheaper post purchase service cost.

  • @legalknowledgewithAdv.Prashant

    Kicks ki apne bahut tareef ki thi. Long ride bhi thi aapki.
    Aur mene purchase kr li aapke kahene pr.

  • @SATVIKGAMING123
    @SATVIKGAMING123 Рік тому +3

    I have felt too much difference in the Build quality of both the cars

    • @kk4087
      @kk4087 Рік тому +6

      Which one is better?

  • @akhileshmaurya1991
    @akhileshmaurya1991 Рік тому +1

    I chose Hyryder over Kia seltos. If the numbers you are showing are correct I could say.. ab book kr diye hai.. aur aane ka wait kar rhe hai.. bahot sara research krne k baad I chose this car. Also other than sale nos I don't find any major issues.. theek h resale value if you are saying is not that much.. toh abhi toh leke chalane ka plan hai.. will see.. baki baad ka baad me dekhlenge!!

  • @gitanshudhawan2791
    @gitanshudhawan2791 Рік тому

    Sir, toyota is far better than suzuki. Go outside India, you will see 80-90% of the cars are of Toyota. Reason is, the cost of the toyota vehicles is on the upper side and Indians are always go with the lesser cost vehicle, as mostly indians are not that rich.
    And if you are talking about the sales number, if suzuki introduce a product similar to the fortuner of same cost, suzuki will have nearly 10-20% sales figure compared to Toyota.

  • @ullasshivakumar
    @ullasshivakumar Рік тому

    I think people have wrong information.. Toyota has made an agreement with Suzuki to supply 70% of the production to them and sell 30% under Toyota badge

  • @faisalmir9300
    @faisalmir9300 Рік тому

    Why would a leading car manufacturer borrow engines from a rival company. This whole Brezza, glanza crap. I don’t know what they’re up to, but me being a loyal customer of Toyota was planning to buy hyrider, and now I have dropped it.

  • @Autocurator
    @Autocurator Рік тому

    How does a Flop car have a waiting period of 1.5 years / 80 weeks (as on 2-Oct-2023). Your prediction falls flat.

  • @ganeshgudhekar5723
    @ganeshgudhekar5723 Рік тому

    hyryder Best SUV car
    Mini fortuner Best 🚗🚗🚗🚗 Sirji

  • @bhanuskbkv
    @bhanuskbkv Рік тому

    Grand Vitara and Hyryder are seriously cramped inside with horrible part sharing from lower models like Brezza, Baleno etc. People who prefer fuel efficiency alone will go for these cars. Suzuki and Toyota are not going to capture the sales of Creta & Seltos. Korean cars are not fuel efficient but they are loaded well and also provide a feel good factor which Suzuki and Toyota lack in these crossovers. I booked both the cars before reveal and cancelled both with huge disappointment.

  • @jasjitbhullars
    @jasjitbhullars Рік тому

    Guru Ji, This is the problem with people like you who hardly have any driving experience. Ridiculous reasons you gave,

  • @behari5
    @behari5 Рік тому

    Sales have nothing to do with the quality or technology of the car.
    The neo MBA's only understands sales numbers.

  • @ponty1001
    @ponty1001 Рік тому

    Resale value is not in the hands of company. People are buying GV becoz of more service centre and more dealers network.
    Just divide the number of cars sold / number of dealers.... In both cases you will get your answer.
    Hence your above assessment is likely to be incorrect

  • @jigmatstanzin2223
    @jigmatstanzin2223 Рік тому

    Useless review... u should talk technically prons and cons. Kitna drama karteh ho

  • @MrHashisz
    @MrHashisz Рік тому

    Why buy a rebadged maruti? Even the hycross is a failure. Innovas main selling point was it's reliability and usage across India as tourist vehicle. Now it's too expensive, front wheel drive and monocoque chasis with a weaker engine.

  • @TheSupramentalLevel
    @TheSupramentalLevel 7 місяців тому

    I'm ready to buy Hyryder if they give good discount since they don't have customers 😂

  • @sumiyanrokhum
    @sumiyanrokhum Рік тому +2

    I just love the looks of hyryder. I just booked hyryder G Hybrid today. Faaar better than Grand Vitara.

  • @vipinsinghrawat469
    @vipinsinghrawat469 Рік тому +1

    Recently visited Uttam Toyota, sec 63, Noida. What I assumed is Base models are only on Papers or Marketing purpose neither Dealers or companies interested in selling Base or Second base model. 1.5 ye is the waiting period. Never expected this from Toyota

    • @manukoshal79
      @manukoshal79 Рік тому

      True had same experience. sales executive was showing less interest to sale base model.

  • @digvijayjayakar8397
    @digvijayjayakar8397 Рік тому +1

    Calgulu bohot selius hai aaj

  • @shivashankargsmysore
    @shivashankargsmysore Рік тому

    Sir, there will be many agreements between 2brands. Your analysis are very surfacial. Kindly stop bad mouthing on hyryder

  • @ankzhitz
    @ankzhitz Рік тому +1

    Sir, I somehow not align with your thoughts. Hyryder has to stop booking due to high waiting period

  • @nagendrakumarkolavennu8677
    @nagendrakumarkolavennu8677 Рік тому

    Probably you failed in your attempt to receive gifts from such a prestigious company which prompted you to give a negative feedback on hyrider. After test drive I found the hyrider having better handling and refined engine. Please don't favor or disfavor a product based on the perquisites you receive.

  • @arunsoni4806
    @arunsoni4806 Рік тому

    all rubbish you are speaking. Do you have any detail technical issues related to hyreder? Stop barking otherwise.

  • @jhagnyaneshwar
    @jhagnyaneshwar Рік тому

    Grand vitara and Hyryder both will struggle. No 1 reason is overpricing. Both cars are easily 1 to 2 lakhs overpriced and people will soon realize it.

  • @DharviBanchhor
    @DharviBanchhor 3 місяці тому

    Hyryder ke customer bahut hai sir... waiting k chakkar me log confused hai...aur resell sochne walo ko new car ni leni chahiye second hand hi le..

  • @tusharmahanta4820
    @tusharmahanta4820 Рік тому

    You are a so called expert not an astrologer .. And you selection words seem you have a personal grudge against Toyota and running a propaganda .. you have selectively not told the number of showrooms and reach of Maruti in Indian market.. People are not fool . You are trying to influence customer to incline towards Maruti.

  • @prateeksharma5151
    @prateeksharma5151 Рік тому

    Please don’t talk rubbish ……many people are your followers, hyryder is a big hit for Toyota so please don’t do paid positive or negative marketing

  • @nitintyagi5148
    @nitintyagi5148 Рік тому

    लोगों को लगता है दोनो कारों को मारुति ही बना रही है तो मारुति ही लेते हैं जैसे glanza और baleno के साथ होता आया है

  • @ashokchawla5902
    @ashokchawla5902 Рік тому

    हाय राइडर की बुराई कर रहे हैं मारुति की तारीफ कर रहे हैं ऐसा क्यों जबकि मारुति में स्मार्ट हाइब्रिड ब्रिजा से हटा दिया वह भी अपने फायदे के लिए

  • @ashokchawla5902
    @ashokchawla5902 Рік тому

    हाय राइडर की बुराई कर रहे हैं मारुति की तारीफ कर रहे हैं ऐसा क्यों जबकि मारुति में स्मार्ट हाइब्रिड ब्रिजा से हटा दिया वह भी अपने फायदे के लिए

  • @KapatiaYT
    @KapatiaYT Рік тому +1

    Bhai sahb ek point aap cover karna bhool gae ho. Price point. Toyota mujhe same car 80k kam mein de ri hai. Zada warranty de ri hai. To ese mein agar log suzuki k paas ja re hai to fir log chutiya hai 😂. Aur agar service ki baat kare to humare yaha to wo bhi toyota ki achi hai. Maruti waale bichare appointment leke jaate hai fir bhi time pr free ni hote.

  • @dipmech21
    @dipmech21 7 місяців тому

    No issue in hyryder. The only problem is only one unit in india. So they are slow in production. Your discussion is non technical.