What you would have expected is for the CC to stay the execution of its order of course upon the application by Zuma, normally you would have two parts in your application i.e. part A suspension of the order pending hearing and part B dealing with the main application… As for the High Court suspending the order of the CC would be unheard of…
The analyst is not telling the truth because unprecedented legal process was followed. The mitigation to the sanctions should have come after the judgement. Mogoeng asked Zuma for mitigation to his sentence before the judgement and that is unusual approach by the apex Court. So much has gone wrong with this case because judges are angry and irritated by Zuma. They no longer apply law in their judgements but hatred.
Why do I get the feeling the Zondo commision is a waist of time? no one is ever going to pay for their criminal and corrupt behavior and its only a political side show costing the tax payers another one billion rand and the legal minds getting rich.
The decision of the court is wise considering lives which could have been lost ..Former President still has people to defend him...The court did a prudent move.......My personal opinion if we send Him to jail so should apartheid leaders who did worse crimes.
@@sterlingferguson1704 The bigger picture is Zuma is not just an ordinary figure ..He has a lot of supporters...I agree with you partly on avoiding chaos but do we need another commission after a standoff between Zumas supporters and police..So an altenative sentence like house arrest is better.
I have never thought legal experts were smart like Havard or MIT Scientists. I didn't saw that sharp curve against Concort coming. 🤔 Pres Jacob Zuma legal team are brilliant indeed without a doubt. They mean business
@@aarongunnz9513 But this level of Technicality Brilliance I fail to give honour to JG Zuma. But notwithstanding his past Intelligence experience maybe it was him. Again we don't know but only the history will give us revelation
@@mvubu6823 LOL ! Nice one, nah he is on UA-cam defending Zuma, he is probably a bit more fancy than a car guard at Nkandla, he probably drives an Uber at Nkandla.
The clown was given an opportunity to state his case. ..lol.....serves the traitor well....the Gupta gang is done with him...he won't get a cent from them....hahaha!
MR Ramaphosa now is your time to do as you please, Empower all your friends, comrades and family members with Patronage.... Your predecessor has set a stage for you... You will have full 20 years to duck n dive the Law, precedent is set🤔😂😂😂
Nah nobody cares, old man Zuma is going to be in the ground soon and all his Zuma cry baby umfanas who were riding off his corruption will actually have to work for once in their lives. Malema destroyed your hero and made a fool of him, go cry in your Uber small boy.
@@nboy7 keep dreaming because you're enjoying it. I don't have time to wake you up... I just feel sorry for your obsession over an old man who has nothing to do with you.
Surely this situation now causes every ruling handed down by the CC to become invalid, as the participants in the previous cases were not granted review, as appears to be the case now? Perhaps those well versed in Constitutional Law would care to enlighten us all?
I wish to know whether Khampepe decision would have survive international test. Any civil war or many loss of life will also draw attention to our courts. The campaign to discredit our courts have already started.
What a joke, imagine us normal tax paying citizens not listening to the con court.........they would have kicked down our doors and dragged us to westville.
I was under the impression that the court judgement still stands and that Zuma's rescission application will be heard with him behind bars should he comply with the court order...now I'm ding-dong. Did the CC scrap the judgement or not?
Yes Neil he should b behind bars whilst the rescission order b heard. He took the oath when he was appointed President to abide by the constitution. He is a chicken. He has no .....
Are our law makers afraid or is this leniency of courts to listen to him one last time? Law becomes very interesting in trying times like this. Maybe the lawyers of Baba are very intelligent/smart; using public judgment to manipulate the ConCourt. Yho!!!
But Thulasizwe, you’re the one who earlier in the day told us about Rule 29 of the CC incorporating Rule 42 of the Uniform Rules of Court, how are you now surprised when the CC is prepared to hear Zuma because you said the Rule applies in this case…
@@thandiswathandiswa3862 Maimane is not a White but he wants him in jail,some ppl will get heart attack this weekend and we will be told they died of Covid 🤦♀️
Excellent explanation indeed...; he has a very good grasp of the issues at play here....
A pleasant change for once...
This is the highest court. How is they allowing this.
They flipping scared
Banana 🍌 republic
@@mohamedmia6593 jip, they have capitulated to the mob, the rule of law in RSA has now been truly extirpated...
Rules!!!
Because they have too...
@AYANDA MDUDUZI MTHIYANE The Zulu nation only represents 18% of our population they will be crushed if they try and take the rest of the country on.
Am loosing faith in our legal system🧐
We will wait and see the concourt decision. This application will b thrown out.
What you would have expected is for the CC to stay the execution of its order of course upon the application by Zuma, normally you would have two parts in your application i.e. part A suspension of the order pending hearing and part B dealing with the main application… As for the High Court suspending the order of the CC would be unheard of…
I'm a bit confused because the decision that was taken by the majority judgment, he was given enough time to respond but he said he won't participate.
Pay back the money
The analyst is not telling the truth because unprecedented legal process was followed. The mitigation to the sanctions should have come after the judgement. Mogoeng asked Zuma for mitigation to his sentence before the judgement and that is unusual approach by the apex Court. So much has gone wrong with this case because judges are angry and irritated by Zuma. They no longer apply law in their judgements but hatred.
I already lost my faith in the SAP. Now I lost my faith in the ConCourt.
😂😂😂
Politic is law n law is politic
Why do I get the feeling the Zondo commision is a waist of time? no one is ever going to pay for their criminal and corrupt behavior and its only a political side show costing the tax payers another one billion rand and the legal minds getting rich.
Absolutely disgraceful
If you apply logic, a court order should remain in force until it has been explicitly set aside.
Only the blind people can't see what this can do to our beloved country
Zuma and his friends are threatening war... the court will probably give him what he wants.
SA Is the laughingstock of the world.
This Must be a very interesting Case to legal Practitioners
I have listened to many law experts but Thulas he is the best.
The decision of the court is wise considering lives which could have been lost ..Former President still has people to defend him...The court did a prudent move.......My personal opinion if we send Him to jail so should apartheid leaders who did worse crimes.
This should apply to everyone in prison rights to bring this application.
Well articulated, I couldn't have said it any better
@@sterlingferguson1704 The court has right to hear i believe.Just this innocent souls were going to be affected..Even SAP members are relieved...
Will everyone be given the same rights as Zuma? You might not realize it, but SA could very well descend into chaos.
@@sterlingferguson1704 The bigger picture is Zuma is not just an ordinary figure ..He has a lot of supporters...I agree with you partly on avoiding chaos but do we need another commission after a standoff between Zumas supporters and police..So an altenative sentence like house arrest is better.
I have never thought legal experts were smart like Havard or MIT Scientists. I didn't saw that sharp curve against Concort coming. 🤔 Pres Jacob Zuma legal team are brilliant indeed without a doubt. They mean business
Whe zuma goes to that will be the day of arrest
They are not brilliant, they relying on Zuma's political gimmicks
@@aarongunnz9513 But this level of Technicality Brilliance I fail to give honour to JG Zuma. But notwithstanding his past Intelligence experience maybe it was him. Again we don't know but only the history will give us revelation
Simelane is the best
The press didn't walk out of Carl Niehaus presser, they just went to take their medicine.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Judges never defeat their own judgement
We know that bringing a rescission application doesn’t automatically suspend the order unlike noting an appeal…
Mduduzi Thabede Ok, very interesting
Banana republic
😂that man isn’t going to jail!! South Africa is fuc*ed
The South African legal system is really maturing now. This is a relief for all citizens, black and white !
You did the crime now do your time
They f**d up from the beginning
You again.
Don't you have some parked cars to chase outside Nkandla?
@@mvubu6823 I see you are a groupie
@@mvubu6823 LOL ! Nice one, nah he is on UA-cam defending Zuma, he is probably a bit more fancy than a car guard at Nkandla, he probably drives an Uber at Nkandla.
He is laughing Where ever he is .. eeer I will play with their minds them judges.
Embarrassment. This country is an international embarrassment
Zuma for president
The clown was given an opportunity to state his case. ..lol.....serves the traitor well....the Gupta gang is done with him...he won't get a cent from them....hahaha!
Disgracefull but now we know the country is a free for all , absolutely lawless
Zuma should run away. Skip the country like Bushiri's or his friends the Gupta's 🏃🏃
I think they made a huge mistake indeed..they should have given him a 5 year sentence 🤔.It's under his leadership that we saw this much corruption.
MR Ramaphosa now is your time to do as you please, Empower all your friends, comrades and family members with Patronage.... Your predecessor has set a stage for you... You will have full 20 years to duck n dive the Law, precedent is set🤔😂😂😂
Rest in peace to all those who thought and/or believed that Zuma will be behind bars by Sunday 🙃
Nah nobody cares, old man Zuma is going to be in the ground soon and all his Zuma cry baby umfanas who were riding off his corruption will actually have to work for once in their lives. Malema destroyed your hero and made a fool of him, go cry in your Uber small boy.
@@nboy7 keep dreaming because you're enjoying it.
I don't have time to wake you up... I just feel sorry for your obsession over an old man who has nothing to do with you.
@@SBUGZOH2👌
This is terrible!!!!
Omg he can do that from prison...or does the law only apply for us normal citizens?
It would appear that way. If you are a powerful politician, the law doesn't apply.
The apply to ordinary citizens
Orange overall
This is a game of Chess they playing, the very tough one of the two well known grandmasters
We are talking about someone who was busy playing chess while others were digging limestone in prison. No legal expert can beat that! Viva Msholozi!
ZUMA IS SPITTING IN ALL THE JUDGES FACE OF THE CONSTITUSIONAL COURT
All caps is not cool
This is very interesting....
The clown(Zuma) is showing them middle finger
This was just a game play SA
Surely this situation now causes every ruling handed down by the CC to become invalid, as the participants in the previous cases were not granted review, as appears to be the case now?
Perhaps those well versed in Constitutional Law would care to enlighten us all?
I wish to know whether Khampepe decision would have survive international test. Any civil war or many loss of life will also draw attention to our courts. The campaign to discredit our courts have already started.
What a joke, imagine us normal tax paying citizens not listening to the con court.........they would have kicked down our doors and dragged us to westville.
He don't look sick
His legal team is quite good, they have managed to outmaneuver everyone so far.
Don't underestimate people.. They will teach you things not known by professors.
I was under the impression that the court judgement still stands and that Zuma's rescission application will be heard with him behind bars should he comply with the court order...now I'm ding-dong. Did the CC scrap the judgement or not?
Yes Neil he should b behind bars whilst the rescission order b heard. He took the oath when he was appointed President to abide by the constitution. He is a chicken. He has no .....
And what will you benefit?🤷🏾♀️
@@vuyiswakhambule7778 justice to the poorest of the poor who is deprived by state capture corruption. Remember these people voted for him.
We the People of South Africa should lay a charge of theft and corruption against the ruling party!
@@rahamankhan2895 and what will you benefit I think it's time to send you people back to India
Smart move people's lives are important
Can Zuma just be re instated as President , with Ace as his deputy with Niehaus for moral support , we cant do any worse
shame man sad day for news reporters, try harder guys you can do this or create anything new or something to keep the ball running
What kind of court is this playing cat and mouse with you are all misled true..
Are our law makers afraid or is this leniency of courts to listen to him one last time? Law becomes very interesting in trying times like this. Maybe the lawyers of Baba are very intelligent/smart; using public judgment to manipulate the ConCourt. Yho!!!
nice specs
Narco State 101
But Thulasizwe, you’re the one who earlier in the day told us about Rule 29 of the CC incorporating Rule 42 of the Uniform Rules of Court, how are you now surprised when the CC is prepared to hear Zuma because you said the Rule applies in this case…
Think of cr17 people and what is going on to us now mx
You must be kidding me! WTF
Last sleepy tonight above the law Zuma
I didn't say so Zuma is not gonna go nowhere is only the constitution is gonna change Zulu boy was waiting for you😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Skeletons are working for him.
viva Zuma!
Viva Msholozi vivaaaaaaa👌
Tge mlunguz they shit themselves we told you Msholozi is not going in jail u didnt listen cos we are black😄😄😂😂😂😂😂
@@thandiswathandiswa3862
Maimane is not a White but he wants him in jail,some ppl will get heart attack this weekend and we will be told they died of Covid 🤦♀️
No It was Vauxhall Viva
Lol Zuma ain't going nowhere 🤣😂we love you msholozi, they would seen ashes💯❤✊🏾
What will you gain afterall