This is why you don't poke the hornet's nest that is Starfleet. They are quite happy to be an exploration-focused space force with enough armament to be defensive. Push them too hard though and they can and will make some of the most devastating warships ever seen.
@@SFRobertsDickClarke Exactly, the Andorians learned this lesson early. Humanity has (mostly) settles its internal issues and goes forth with an open hand. Doesn't mean they've forgotten the lessons of Earth on how to turn that hand into a fist.
Like what Quark said to Nog during the Dominion War. "Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon."
Starfleet obviously needs a historical course about Naval Peacekeeping. Having vessels that have parity with or slight superiority over the most probable threat axis doesn't start wars. It prevents them. The most challenging part of that is to be credible, but without precipitating an arms race.
I think this was both a throwback of Roddenberry "golden-age" ideals, and a (not so subtle) jab at TNG era idealism. Its easy to be pacifist if you have the biggest baddest sticks.
@@shadewolf0075 If the choices are 1.) Arms race 2.) Getting conquered and steamrolled by that other empire, then the choice is clear. The idea that "if we don't build it, clearly no one else will" is ridiculous in both fiction and non-fiction.
@@Hartzilla2007 And the rest of the galaxy has NEVER given the Federation proper thanks for all the insane galactic hazards that Starfleet has dealt with before they threatened someone else. Ancient planet-eaters made of solid neutronium, borg rampages, giant space amoebas...
1:37 I love this shot. Excelsior, Constitution, Miranda, Constellation, even a little Oberth, and the Columbia and Georgiou from STO. That "TOS Movie" era fleet from the 2280s is something we never got to see in action on a large scale, and I think the STO ships are fantastic additions. Makes me wish we could have more from that time.
If your willing to spend money and just like cruising around in ships doing missions and patrols easily or hard maybe check out the atlas dreadnought and the other 2 23rd century dreads and the 26th century universe class
I love the Georgiou Class. She is a beautiful ship, and a worthy successor to the Walker Class. I like the Walker Class too, but the Georgiou is, in my opinion, a perfect blend between the Discovery and TMP era's.
I did have to chuckle at the nomenclature here, 'fast' battlecruiser. Maybe it makes sense within the lore as it exists in the game. Though when looking at the capital ships ST likes to take inspiration of one kind or another from and, well, there are battlecruisers and fast battleships, but no fast battlecruisers. Due to the fact that battlecruisers were already what happens when you try to make a contemporary battleship design go faster, by sacrificing armor and firepower. (Fast battleships were created to do the same thing, but without sacrificing the protection or firepower to the extent a battlecruiser did. E.g. compare the Iowa class to the proposed Montana class.)
1988, I built, using an Excelsior from FASA, and some random Aircraft parts (a 1/72nd scale P-61 gun turret, and nose/tail section bits from a 1/144 Blackbird, & other tidbits) a Ship quite like this! I even made up an SSD that had much-of this critter's armament. I'd sue, but, well, my Nephew has that Model now, and is some 2k miles away (suing made in Jest; to be clear)...
Starfleet is known as explorers. But as times got rough they were not afraid to stand up and fight against those who would do harm to them and to their allies.
I really liked this one, going back to the TMP era. Another ship I'd like to see eventually get into one of these videos is the Avenger Class; STO Starfleet's 2409 Battlecruiser
Thanks for the top quality content guys. I was about to ask if you'd cover the Harrower class dreadnought from Star Wars (Old Republic era) but I checked on your channel and you've already done so. Keep up the great work!
Starfleet. They're democratic, they're egalitarian, they're diplomatic. And they would like to LIVE long enough to continue being those things, even if they don't agree with it in the moment. It was a bad spot. It passed.
I do wonder if the martialists have any relation with Section 31, because I imagine quite a few of them would've likely joined them if Section 31 ever approached them.
Especially when a Andorian and a Vulcan agree on that. And then even a Klingon is like..."Ok....we may have made a error here." RIP Richard Hatch, glad I met you at my first convention.
3:11 Also Starfleet: proceeds to CONTINUE to cling to diplomacy even though there was literally NOTHING wrong with having a fleet of battleships for defense Gene Roddenberry’s vision is a nice thought, but it’s sadly NOT how reality works
@@JnEricsonx It's in two expensive bundles. One is the Discovery Operations Bundle, which gives you a bunch of ships, but the Georgiou skin is attached to an inferior starter version of the Walker class. The other option is the Legendary Walker class, which only has one high-end ship, but unlocks all skins for available for it including this and the 25th century Shenzou class. I would wait for a bundle sale. In the meantime you can look at both the Shenzou and Georgiou in the shipyard merchant.
Oh my. Depending on the stats, that might be the one ship that could get me out of my beloved Gagarin. I'd have to completely re-do my build, buuuuut...might be worth it!
Beautiful starship, looks like the Excelsior era version of the Constution era Miranda-class, the mid-end "standard cruiser class" to the high-end "premiere cruiser class" that was the Constitution and Excelsior. Wish Disco and SNW in art design had gone thus route of exciting creativity within existing visual canon. Being a "warship" makes sense, but breaks canon a bit as the Defiant is called Starfleet's first warship, but still it fits well otherwise into canon. I think that the additional ventral strut to attach mission pods would allow it to ablely carry out scientific or logistical missions as needed, providing a bit of bureaucratic stealth to its primary defense mission.
So since this is cannon, does that mean the centaur class is the little sibling ship of this class? This means that even the traditionals in starfleet liked this design and didn't really wanna scrap the look. Or is the centaur older I can't remember when it was built
I feel like the Centaur class was a means of producing short range patrol vessels, ships meant to operate inside the Federation utilizing the materials and frames of the Excelsior class. Similar to how the Miranda and Constitution and Galaxy and Nebula are clearly related and come from the same tech tree.
So take the real-life battlecruiser as an analogy, Repulse/Excelsior is Hood/Incomparable with traditional design philosophy, and the Georigiou with later Shenzhou and Gagarin are more like G3/I3 battlecruisers with more radical unconventional design?
Interesting. I'm not sure I buy the Klingons agreeing to limit their warfighting capabilites when the Romulans are their neighbors. But I'm sure it makes sense in story. It sounds like this is designed to oporate not as part of a line, but out in front of it or guarding against flanking manuvers. Having significant arms pointing aft means that unless you have significant enemies behind you, they're useless.
Starfleet would have been well served by creating pure combat variants of their standard ships of the line _and_ by creating a counterpart to the small Klingon Bird of Prey to use as a patrol craft, like the Archer class that Triangulum studios did a few months back. Have the 30 -40 crewman cheap to mass produce attack ship be part of the standard class niches that Starfleet repeats every starship generation, like the Constitution style main ship (Excelsior, Ambassador, Galaxy, Sovereign ect) and the Miranda style ship, a pure science vessel and so on. In the time of DS9 it's role would be resurrected by the Defiant class, and the Saber class. It would be controversial, but could be explained away by being designated a systems/sector defence patrol craft, providing security with the least investment of crew possible. And it's a defensive ship, not a offensive one, as it's short range (but just happens to be capable of accompanying a battle fleet in a long range incursion if supported by other ships…). As for the pure combat variants of their main multirole ships, that's a very efficient and effective use of pre existing designs, and a useful political tool for deterrence, as rival powers will always be wary of attacking a Federation captial ship in case it's a dedicated killer and not a exploratory cruiser. And Federation politicians may be less apprehensive as the fleet _looks_ like it's multirole ships. If the conversion between multirole ship and battlewagon is relatively simple Starfleet could even retrofit ships as suggested by current tensions - a neighbour getting aggressive or a permanent wormhole opens up, start converting ships to War specifications. And the logistics benifits is that Starfleet can utilise one optimised hull design for two different mission types. It's the dream of modularity.
I believe the ship that fit that niche was largely the Miranda. It's well built for combat roles with a compact frame (more internal volume than a Connie, despite its size), with forward and aft double torpedo launchers and heavy phaser cannons mounted on the rollbar, perfect for engaging ships on all sides and for combating ships that might sneak up on you (like cloaked Klingon ships). The rollbar can be swapped out for a number of other options too, like phaser turrets, additional sensors, cargo pods etc and some were refitted with a hull extension to increase hanger space. It's a very versatile spaceframe that seems like it was designed to be refitted to fit just about any role, but whose stock configuration seems very combat-oriented.
@@catoblepasomega That was actually implemented during the Dominion War to disastrous results. Even when manned by a skeleton combat crew the ships themselves were obsolete against the more modern ships of the Jem'Hadar, Cardassian and Breen fleets.
@@Tullaryx Yeah, what was a cutting edge gunboat design 100 years later just doesn't pass muster during the Dominion war. No longer sturdy enough to stand in a slugging fight, and with a level of firepower no longer particularly notable. What might very well have been originally designed to fight Klingon B'rels is suddenly fills much the same role as one, but without a cloaking device, a crew size ten times as big, in a more expensive package. I wonder what could have been if it had undergone a modernization process like the Lakota did-upgrade its launchers to fire quantums, and its phaser cannons to something more modern like the defiant had, greater automatization like the Dominion-war galaxy's had, some better SIF and shield systems, it might be able to continue serving in its intended role. The fact that it was still in service while its contemporaries like the connie and constellation were retired says something in its favor, at least. Even modern stuff was getting massacred against the Dominion though, so who knows.
Georgiou's death at the Battle of the Binary was covered up, remember? Mirror Georgiou even replaced her for a while. Whatever lead to this ship being named Georgiou, it was *not* her death at the hands of the Klingons. Because that officially never happened. I assume the official story is that she died on Discovery, but *that* would be stupidly classified, too.
That's just it, Mirror Georgiou's appearance on the U.S.S. Discovery would've been entirely classified to the people on-board that vessel, Section 31, and Starfleet Command's highest ranking members. Then she vanished with the Discovery. So as far as the rest of Starfleet is concerned, Captain Georgiou died during the Battle of the Binary Stars. Which is the truth. Only Discovery's crew were lied to.
Can we get a video on star trek online lore? I've seen all of the standard trek shows and I don't know what you are talking about in some of the lore on star trek online.
Could've have a cleaner look. The Walker's 'gondola' could have been a smaller Excelsior-style engineering hull with massive probe launchers with a more rounded Excelsior-type saucer. This boat is a mess.
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Absolutely GORGEOUS video mate!
do the collumbia next!!
Georgio was a rule breaking fool the only one that deserves to have a ship like this after her is the emporer
U should review the uss dreadnought
This is why you don't poke the hornet's nest that is Starfleet. They are quite happy to be an exploration-focused space force with enough armament to be defensive. Push them too hard though and they can and will make some of the most devastating warships ever seen.
Don't push the pink skins to the thin ice
@@SFRobertsDickClarke Exactly, the Andorians learned this lesson early. Humanity has (mostly) settles its internal issues and goes forth with an open hand. Doesn't mean they've forgotten the lessons of Earth on how to turn that hand into a fist.
This is Humanity in a nutshell. Star Trek is such a nice Universe that we were able to find so many aliens just as crazy as us 😃.
Fucking with Starfleet is like insulting Josuke’s hair.
Like what Quark said to Nog during the Dominion War.
"Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon."
This ship has some of the most striking nacelles I’ve ever seen on a ship. Absolutely gorgeous design
quite a "georgious" design you might say :D
@@roguephoenix See yourself out....🤣
@@darkhorse13golfgaming 😆
The Georgiou looks like it could destroy Klingon fleets in squads of 3
Starfleet obviously needs a historical course about Naval Peacekeeping. Having vessels that have parity with or slight superiority over the most probable threat axis doesn't start wars. It prevents them.
The most challenging part of that is to be credible, but without precipitating an arms race.
I think this was both a throwback of Roddenberry "golden-age" ideals, and a (not so subtle) jab at TNG era idealism. Its easy to be pacifist if you have the biggest baddest sticks.
yes because making more bigger guns totally stopped other empires from trying to extend their reach through war and definitely didn't start arms races
@@shadewolf0075 If the choices are 1.) Arms race 2.) Getting conquered and steamrolled by that other empire, then the choice is clear.
The idea that "if we don't build it, clearly no one else will" is ridiculous in both fiction and non-fiction.
@@SmallLab129 But they kind of did have the biggest baddest sticks until the Borg showed up.
@@Hartzilla2007 And the rest of the galaxy has NEVER given the Federation proper thanks for all the insane galactic hazards that Starfleet has dealt with before they threatened someone else. Ancient planet-eaters made of solid neutronium, borg rampages, giant space amoebas...
1:37 I love this shot. Excelsior, Constitution, Miranda, Constellation, even a little Oberth, and the Columbia and Georgiou from STO. That "TOS Movie" era fleet from the 2280s is something we never got to see in action on a large scale, and I think the STO ships are fantastic additions. Makes me wish we could have more from that time.
Thank you!
@@_Pundus_ You've done a fantastic job on all of these! Except the Pathyeager, I'll never forgive you for that one.
@@ODST_Parker damn straight.
I wish they would make more movies of that area
I love TMP ship design, the hull colours and shapes are so striking.
These collabs are starting to work, its getting me interested in trying Star Trek Online....
Give it a try, the game is free, I recommend PC version because there are more free giveaways. The cool ships do cost money.
Don't do it, buy yourself a Scott Spark 2022 MTB go out there and enjoy the sun my friend.
If your willing to spend money and just like cruising around in ships doing missions and patrols easily or hard maybe check out the atlas dreadnought and the other 2 23rd century dreads and the 26th century universe class
I love the Georgiou Class. She is a beautiful ship, and a worthy successor to the Walker Class. I like the Walker Class too, but the Georgiou is, in my opinion, a perfect blend between the Discovery and TMP era's.
ST:O imo does the best at blending old Trek and new Trek into a cohesive style and adding its own flair too it
I will always adore the TMP ship designs most of all. They look like something we could actually build someday.
Thanks for doing this video! Love the lore behind it, and I'd really enjoy something similar for the Shenzou-class Legendary Walker as well.
I wasn't expecting such a good lore and story behind it..a perfect information, thanks..
I did have to chuckle at the nomenclature here, 'fast' battlecruiser. Maybe it makes sense within the lore as it exists in the game. Though when looking at the capital ships ST likes to take inspiration of one kind or another from and, well, there are battlecruisers and fast battleships, but no fast battlecruisers. Due to the fact that battlecruisers were already what happens when you try to make a contemporary battleship design go faster, by sacrificing armor and firepower.
(Fast battleships were created to do the same thing, but without sacrificing the protection or firepower to the extent a battlecruiser did. E.g. compare the Iowa class to the proposed Montana class.)
Ooooh, a Centaur that's been hitting the gym hard...
Cent(eat this Quantum torpedo)aur
bitter irony that georgiou would have hated having a war ship named after her, let alone an entire line of them...
1988, I built, using an Excelsior from FASA, and some random Aircraft parts (a 1/72nd scale P-61 gun turret, and nose/tail section bits from a 1/144 Blackbird, & other tidbits) a Ship quite like this! I even made up an SSD that had much-of this critter's armament. I'd sue, but, well, my Nephew has that Model now, and is some 2k miles away (suing made in Jest; to be clear)...
I didn't miss playing STO until I started watching these Ex Astris breakdowns...
Cheers. Daniel. And Thomas
That ship looks like the second kitbash attempt at the centaur class... to mutch going on in my opinion.
Especially the ventral persective
The Centaur does look much more streamlined. Though beta canon ships like the Proxima refit are almost as busy design wise.
The USS Resolute from Star Trek: Resurgence is a Refitted Centaur Class.
Beautiful footage
This videos quality is on another level
Starfleet is known as explorers. But as times got rough they were not afraid to stand up and fight against those who would do harm to them and to their allies.
I love that the LCARS readout beginning @ 2:22 has depth to it, as it it's vaguely holographic (as an LCARS display should be).
"Hard cap on tonnage and military capability for both navies" Washington Naval Treaty, is that you? Come back to haunt us again?
dont forget the London Naval Treaty...
It's a squished Excelsior...I LOVE IT
That is one sexy looking battle cruiser.
Let it not be said, that starfleet doesn't know how to make warships
I really liked this one, going back to the TMP era. Another ship I'd like to see eventually get into one of these videos is the Avenger Class; STO Starfleet's 2409 Battlecruiser
"Don't push the pink skins to the thin ice." Not very eloquent but... Any enemies of the Federation will find those words to be quite prophetic.
Oh how I wish Eaglemoss will do a modell of this gorgeous ship! Would totally buy it.
I like the upgrades to your channel. It was a long time getting from there to here. 😉
Definitely one of the best Starfleet designs that I've seen!
Thanks for the top quality content guys. I was about to ask if you'd cover the Harrower class dreadnought from Star Wars (Old Republic era) but I checked on your channel and you've already done so. Keep up the great work!
I can see tbe Akira-Class retaking some of the principles attempted during the conception of the Georgiou-Class.
Starfleet. They're democratic, they're egalitarian, they're diplomatic.
And they would like to LIVE long enough to continue being those things, even if they don't agree with it in the moment. It was a bad spot. It passed.
I do wonder if the martialists have any relation with Section 31, because I imagine quite a few of them would've likely joined them if Section 31 ever approached them.
Absolutely love the space frame of the ship.
Georgio class should have had 3 warp cores, 1 for warp drive, 1 for weapons and 1 for powering the shields.
Cant wait to get my hands on an Eaglemoss Model of this ship. It looks so good!
I like this ship a lot
What a positively gorgeous design. You might even call it... Georgious.
Amazing as usual Spacedock, but please our thanks with Thomas. He does fantastic work on STO, but script knocked it out of the park.
Starfleet really does show why you should avoid fucking around and finding out sometimes
Well said.
Especially when a Andorian and a Vulcan agree on that. And then even a Klingon is like..."Ok....we may have made a error here." RIP Richard Hatch, glad I met you at my first convention.
People always gotta be waking sleeping dragons.
God Damn have such the hots for Daniel god damn his voice is just the best out of the sojourn team
The following constitutes official STO Cannon!!! Love it! ❤️
That is the shenzo we deserved to c I love that design
Klingons and Federation sign a ship tonnage limitation treaty*
"Realistic" Romulans: I'm going to pretend I didn't see that.
Well done Thomas And Spacedock!
This class of starship named after Philippa georgiou would make an excellent star trek series. Need more information on this one
3:11
Also Starfleet: proceeds to CONTINUE to cling to diplomacy even though there was literally NOTHING wrong with having a fleet of battleships for defense
Gene Roddenberry’s vision is a nice thought, but it’s sadly NOT how reality works
Ooooh this class is gorgeous! I should log in to STO again soon
I agree, one of the best looking ships i have ever seen.
I don’t suppose you take STO ship requests for vids, but I really dig the Exeter-class as a 25th century Constitution variant
👌 Perfect design
Agreed
Damn, that Georgiou Class looks amazing.
Thankyou.
This is absolutely one of the most incredible designs for Star Trek ever!
I love this ship and I even have it in STO.
What's it listed as?
@@JnEricsonx What do you mean? It's the Georgiou Class Light Battlecruiser. Which is obtained two different ways, but both are C-Store purchases.
@@AtomicVisionary I guess just didn't see a specifically named listing on the wiki. I'll look in the cstore direct
@@JnEricsonx It's in two expensive bundles. One is the Discovery Operations Bundle, which gives you a bunch of ships, but the Georgiou skin is attached to an inferior starter version of the Walker class.
The other option is the Legendary Walker class, which only has one high-end ship, but unlocks all skins for available for it including this and the 25th century Shenzou class.
I would wait for a bundle sale. In the meantime you can look at both the Shenzou and Georgiou in the shipyard merchant.
@@ffnbbq I got mine on sale actually. It was worth it personally.
Now if only Eaglemoss would make a replica of it
🖖😎👍Very cool and very well nicely done and very informatively explained and nicely well executed indeed👌...
Oh my. Depending on the stats, that might be the one ship that could get me out of my beloved Gagarin. I'd have to completely re-do my build, buuuuut...might be worth it!
Fuck it, I might have to play me some STO.
Bring your wallet. It has gotten VERY expensive in some cases.
@@JnEricsonx _yeah I kinda dropped it for that immediately but I appreciate the warning_ lmao
@@AWACS_Snowblind Fair enough. Don't ask me how much I made my paypal account scream this weekend.
The kitomorh(I know I botched the spelling) accords reminds me of the Washington Navel Treaty
basically the same shit..
Here you go (Khitomer)
Could the Parliament Class be seen as a modernized Georgiou Class? The underslung pod and pylons / nacelles make me think this is possible.
Great ship, great video.
Beautiful starship, looks like the Excelsior era version of the Constution era Miranda-class, the mid-end "standard cruiser class" to the high-end "premiere cruiser class" that was the Constitution and Excelsior. Wish Disco and SNW in art design had gone thus route of exciting creativity within existing visual canon. Being a "warship" makes sense, but breaks canon a bit as the Defiant is called Starfleet's first warship, but still it fits well otherwise into canon. I think that the additional ventral strut to attach mission pods would allow it to ablely carry out scientific or logistical missions as needed, providing a bit of bureaucratic stealth to its primary defense mission.
This is actually an Update of a Disco-era design. It's an updated Walker-class Cruiser.
That is the best looking ship in all of Star Trek!
Wow, that thing was a beast for its era.
So, that line from DS9 that the Defiant was the first purpose built warship by Star Fleet has totally gone out the window.
I always thought. The uss vengeance in ( into darkness) was a military version of excelsior.
could you do the Colombia class next
Daniel, gorgeous is grossly understated. This beauty is truly stellar.. (ok, I admit, the pun was intended)
congrats awesome video
I love the STO vids
You should do a breakdown of the unreliable from the outer worlds
It's a beautiful craft that feels like home while exploring halcyon
Really enjoy these videos. Is there a webpage somewhere that has the transcript for these?
Is this the ship you get from the legendary disco Starfleet captain pack in star trek online?
So since this is cannon, does that mean the centaur class is the little sibling ship of this class? This means that even the traditionals in starfleet liked this design and didn't really wanna scrap the look. Or is the centaur older I can't remember when it was built
I feel like the Centaur class was a means of producing short range patrol vessels, ships meant to operate inside the Federation utilizing the materials and frames of the Excelsior class. Similar to how the Miranda and Constitution and Galaxy and Nebula are clearly related and come from the same tech tree.
Seems on brand for Starfleet’s most serious war ship design yet to be designed and built in the Andorian system.
this is a very cool new ship configuration while maintaining the ST style
Hell yeah more battlecruisers!
So take the real-life battlecruiser as an analogy, Repulse/Excelsior is Hood/Incomparable with traditional design philosophy, and the Georigiou with later Shenzhou and Gagarin are more like G3/I3 battlecruisers with more radical unconventional design?
'WE COME IN PEACE!'
It's about time for you to do the Olympus-class corvette from Babylon 5.
I read that as grogu fast battle cruiser
I like how it's got the "rainbow warp" effect from the Enterprise A.
Rainbow? Pandering to who?
Awesome! can u guys do one for the Ross class?
Interesting.
I'm not sure I buy the Klingons agreeing to limit their warfighting capabilites when the Romulans are their neighbors. But I'm sure it makes sense in story.
It sounds like this is designed to oporate not as part of a line, but out in front of it or guarding against flanking manuvers. Having significant arms pointing aft means that unless you have significant enemies behind you, they're useless.
You can see this turning into the Galaxy class.
Ha haaaa!! LOL! Sound a lot like an upgrade to the Ares Class from Axanar :P
Quite a beautiful ship none the less.
I wonder if one of these ships would have been the enterprise B if the kitamer accords were not signed
Starfleet would have been well served by creating pure combat variants of their standard ships of the line _and_ by creating a counterpart to the small Klingon Bird of Prey to use as a patrol craft, like the Archer class that Triangulum studios did a few months back.
Have the 30 -40 crewman cheap to mass produce attack ship be part of the standard class niches that Starfleet repeats every starship generation, like the Constitution style main ship (Excelsior, Ambassador, Galaxy, Sovereign ect) and the Miranda style ship, a pure science vessel and so on.
In the time of DS9 it's role would be resurrected by the Defiant class, and the Saber class.
It would be controversial, but could be explained away by being designated a systems/sector defence patrol craft, providing security with the least investment of crew possible. And it's a defensive ship, not a offensive one, as it's short range (but just happens to be capable of accompanying a battle fleet in a long range incursion if supported by other ships…).
As for the pure combat variants of their main multirole ships, that's a very efficient and effective use of pre existing designs, and a useful political tool for deterrence, as rival powers will always be wary of attacking a Federation captial ship in case it's a dedicated killer and not a exploratory cruiser.
And Federation politicians may be less apprehensive as the fleet _looks_ like it's multirole ships. If the conversion between multirole ship and battlewagon is relatively simple Starfleet could even retrofit ships as suggested by current tensions - a neighbour getting aggressive or a permanent wormhole opens up, start converting ships to War specifications.
And the logistics benifits is that Starfleet can utilise one optimised hull design for two different mission types.
It's the dream of modularity.
I believe the ship that fit that niche was largely the Miranda. It's well built for combat roles with a compact frame (more internal volume than a Connie, despite its size), with forward and aft double torpedo launchers and heavy phaser cannons mounted on the rollbar, perfect for engaging ships on all sides and for combating ships that might sneak up on you (like cloaked Klingon ships). The rollbar can be swapped out for a number of other options too, like phaser turrets, additional sensors, cargo pods etc and some were refitted with a hull extension to increase hanger space. It's a very versatile spaceframe that seems like it was designed to be refitted to fit just about any role, but whose stock configuration seems very combat-oriented.
@@catoblepasomega That was actually implemented during the Dominion War to disastrous results. Even when manned by a skeleton combat crew the ships themselves were obsolete against the more modern ships of the Jem'Hadar, Cardassian and Breen fleets.
@@Tullaryx Yeah, what was a cutting edge gunboat design 100 years later just doesn't pass muster during the Dominion war. No longer sturdy enough to stand in a slugging fight, and with a level of firepower no longer particularly notable. What might very well have been originally designed to fight Klingon B'rels is suddenly fills much the same role as one, but without a cloaking device, a crew size ten times as big, in a more expensive package. I wonder what could have been if it had undergone a modernization process like the Lakota did-upgrade its launchers to fire quantums, and its phaser cannons to something more modern like the defiant had, greater automatization like the Dominion-war galaxy's had, some better SIF and shield systems, it might be able to continue serving in its intended role. The fact that it was still in service while its contemporaries like the connie and constellation were retired says something in its favor, at least. Even modern stuff was getting massacred against the Dominion though, so who knows.
Please do the Tempest from Mass Effect Andromeda. No one really talks about that ship and it’s a shame as it’s such a stunning looking vessel.
Georgiou's death at the Battle of the Binary was covered up, remember? Mirror Georgiou even replaced her for a while.
Whatever lead to this ship being named Georgiou, it was *not* her death at the hands of the Klingons. Because that officially never happened. I assume the official story is that she died on Discovery, but *that* would be stupidly classified, too.
That's just it, Mirror Georgiou's appearance on the U.S.S. Discovery would've been entirely classified to the people on-board that vessel, Section 31, and Starfleet Command's highest ranking members. Then she vanished with the Discovery. So as far as the rest of Starfleet is concerned, Captain Georgiou died during the Battle of the Binary Stars. Which is the truth. Only Discovery's crew were lied to.
It's an Excelsior saucer with bits slapped on
That was *good.*
Can we get a video on star trek online lore? I've seen all of the standard trek shows and I don't know what you are talking about in some of the lore on star trek online.
"My name is Giovanni Georgio. But everybody calls me-" *_Georgiou_*
Could've have a cleaner look.
The Walker's 'gondola' could have been a smaller Excelsior-style engineering hull with massive probe launchers with a more rounded Excelsior-type saucer. This boat is a mess.
Everything except the nacelles look good.
"Fleet 2000 initiative"
I see you, Thomas Marrone - I see your shameless Honor Harrington references.
Thats probably more with the STO Devs given how many references they've put in the game.
@@Hartzilla2007 Doubt it. Besides , this script was written by Thomas Marrone - he said so at the start of the video.
This is one of the sexiest starships I have ever seen
Dddddaaaaammmmm
That is good looking ship
The deflector makes me think of like a hot rod or muscle car