Doctor Who: Season 21 (1984). "Goodbye, Goodbye, Goodbye, Hello, Goodbye, Hello."
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Stam Fine Reviews takes a trip in the TARDIS, slips and hits head on the console, and this review is the result. The 1984 season built on the goodwill of the series' 20th Anniversary in 1983 and gave a season with its ups and downs, but boy, that 'up' was certainly an 'up' all right.
Over the course of the season, we say goodbye to Tegan, Turlough, and Kamelion, meet Peri, Say bye-bye to the Fifth Doctor and hello to the Sixth.
0:00 Introduction
1:21 Warriors of the Deep
5:21 The Awakening
8:15 Frontios
11:34 Resurrection of the Daleks
18:53 America
19:53 Planet of Fire
22:36 Peri In. Kamelion Out.
26:23 Davison Bows Out
28:31 Caves of Androzani
33:23 Change, My Dear
34:08 The Twin Dilemma
37:28 Violence and Summary - Розваги
Would you please stop making the daleks sing. It's not funny or clever or entertaining on any level. Please just stop.
I absolutely love it.
Lighten up, Francis
@@yogisie Good reference. lol
Australians are well known worldwide for their taste in childish, low-brow sense of humour, you just have to ignore it.
As The Daleks would say to Matt Smith, “MATT s. Is an Enemy of the Daleks! Exterminate!! EXTERMINATE!!🫠
I met Mark Strickson in 1984 and Nicola Bryant in 1985. Mark was almost bored. Nicola was *nothing* like Peri - animated and friendly and utterly lovely. I couldn't figure out why she had that American accent until this video. Thanks for another great trip down memory lane.
I feel a little uneasy about how much the Darlekaraoke cheers me.
If the estate of Terry Nation would allow it then an album of Dalek interpretation of the 'classics' would sell well. Michael Grade, in a likely screw you to his father, did everything he could to kill Doctor Who dead. The fact that it survived for six years under all that pressure is testament to the people involved in making it.
It's far from testament..those who made it destroyed it ..JNT single handedly ruined it
I dunno why, but Daleks singing 'a land downunder' was a completely unexpected mindfawk of the most awesome kind. ;-) I hope these never end.
You have no idea how much I have been anticipating this video!
Ditto! 'Tis great stuff 👍
The Dalek singing voice is spot on.
but they don't breathe the humidity or watch the lighting crackle over cane fields.
The Doctor's heroism, courage, sheer bloody mindedness and will to survive in episode 4 is one of DW's greatest standout moments. And it's all beautifully acted by Peter Davison.
In Frontios when the Doctor says Tegan is an android maybe he's telling the truth because it's Kamelion standing in for Tegan while she's having a kip
I was thinking how funny this retrospective was, then I realised the source material was ripe for parody. Great video!
One of my all time favorite seasons. A couple of flawed productions at the bookends, but containing at least two of my favorite stories ever. (Resurrection and Androzani). Matthew Robinson and Graeme Harper are probably my vote for best classic Dr Who directors. And Davison is sublime by this point.
"A little ka ka" was a laugh out loud moment for me 🤣 this channel never disappoints! 👍🏻
He's back! Wish you uploaded Doctor Who a bit more often, but the videos are always worth the wait :)
I was 17 years old in 1984, and more than a little distracted by the glamorous Janet Fielding as Tegan - looking back, it's hardly surprising. By this stage they'd toned down the more annoying aspects of the character, and turned the costume design up to 11 - it's enough to make a young man swoon, and I did.
Yeah - she distracted me too lol
Yes, she was HOT!
Strange -- I guess I never got past how annoying she was at the beginning. I far preferred Nyssa, particularly in her early costume/makeup. I also liked Leela, because she was so different than the other girls on the show, having this in-your-face sex appeal, while also being almost totally independent of the Doctor... if all the other companions were dogs, she was a cat, who just sort of hung out around him but didn't orbit him like a satellite the way all the other companions did. But of course, the Greatest Companion of All Time was Sarah Jane Smith, who paired with the Greatest Doctor of All Time, Tom Baker, to mark the clear high-point of the decades-long show.
She's a dog 😆
Nicola Bryant… Peri….I like her… assets and just upbeat mood! For 22 in 1984, she was nice to see.
I love these videos, super fun watch.
I've always felt weird about Season 21, but it wasn't til now I've realised it's because of the almost obsessive need to change *everything*. There's a real sense of whiplash in this season. Most of the show's changing periods are handled with care (usually with companions crossing over) but with all of the old being kicked out, and we haven't really had time to get to know Peri before the Doctor is changing too, there's a real sense of the entire show being upturned in 7 episodes in a great big rush to make everything different.
The Doctor sacrificing his regeneration for a companion he barely knows is part of Five’s noble character. It would have been nice to see Davison without Janet Fielding for a bit longer and a different girl instead though. It gives more variety to an era when a companion doesn’t stay almost as long as their Doctor
The font and presentation of the title cards is gorgeous.
I'm loving all your videos. Thank you for all your time and effort, well worth it.
How Warriors turned out was such a crime. It was envisioned as a dark and claustrophobic story (the writer took influences from the Alien movies), and it came out like an over-lit abomination. I’ll overlook the god awful Myrka.
The Awakening is a grossly underrated story. Possibly one of the best in the 5th run.
The Warriors novelisation is good, proving it was the execution that was the issue.
If the lighting wasn't set to "game show level", thr Myrka would have been far, far, far more effective. Partly because most of it wouldn't be distinctly seen 🤪
@@ShamrockParticle It makes appearances in a few audios and books where it almost redeems itself.
@@Faction.Paradox I was about to same thing about the novelisation lol
Nah, Warriors was utterly misconceived from the start. The story of the Silurians and Sea Devils had been told brilliantly the first time in Pertwee's era. There was no point making a contrived, redundant follow-on that was never needed. Especially one that misunderstood the source material so idiotically.
Awful fanfiction was what was written and that's what we got. Even if James Cameron had produced and directed it with a million dollar budget, it'd still be terrible.
Speaking as a person born and bred in Philadelphia I can say - peri never had her accent pass as American for even a single scene.
Agreed. Makes me wonder if any of the cast had ever met an actual American. 🤔
Another awesome presentstion,, thanks! 😍
I will admit this: As a kid, I loved the 6th Doctor's outfit. As an adult, a couple tweaks were needed but for an alien, it did work for me. But the banana pie pants had to go, no question...
I wish they did a dressing gown of the 6th Doctors coat 🤣🤣🤣🤣. I grew up with the 6th Doctor and is one of my fav doctors and very underated.
What did you think of Colin's waistcoat in the Two Doctors?
6th Doctor outfit makes me think Rupert Bear got the worst part of a Bigeneration as Baker nicked his trousers.
Loving your work mate... keep it up.. .(hanging out for season 24)
As an American from Southern California, let me just say that Nicola Bryant's supposedly Pasadena accent is nothing of the sort. There should be a drinking game-take one shot every time Peri says a word with a British rather than an American pronunciation. You'll be under the table by the end of any given episode she's in.
She's absolutely gorgeous and a lovely person I'm told, but Bryant's accent was really that bad.
Consider it revenge for Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins! (or Keanu Reeves in Dracula, or Johnny Depp in From Hell, or...) ;)
@@blethigg9320 Fair enough. At least Kevin Costner didn't even make an attempt in Robin Hood.
To many UK listeners, though, her accent sounded rather American, and for the time that's all that mattered. (I recall Bryant talking about the "mincer" vs "meat grinder" line in the following season and her disagreement with Turner over it, noting how most Americans wouldn't say "mincer" but the much more common "meat grinder". A small detail, true, she said, but one that would mark Peri's American-ness a touch more clearly in the episode.)
@@tideoftime I'm glad to hear that she was really making a good faith attempt. You're probably right that some things were out of her control. The script is the script.
@@blethigg9320 HUh are you for real. How did marry Poppins actors get in to this. ITS DOCTOR WHO. OK 👍👍👍👍👍👍 ,
I crack up every time I see the lady try to karate the Murka. Comedy gold.
Loved it and the little sound effects were spot on! :D Very amusing to watch!
Thanks for the Drop the Dead Donkey reference.
I can’t believe that Auntie Beryl is getting more character depth an any companion in the Eric Sayward years
I was waiting a long time for your review of season 21 and your thoughts on The Caves of Androzani.
I was just thinking about the Blakes 7 guards' helmets when you confirmed it.
Literally the only thing I can remember about Planet of Fire is Peri in the red bikini. I saw some parts of that story 50x more than the rest, to the point where the VHS tape snapped.
I can't blame you. 🔥🔥🔥
Understandable.
Really enjoyed the video . your work on the old sci fi tv is brilliant . Thank you
13:48 Dirty Den reference made me smile. 😊
Fantastic video. I loved the 'd'ya want fries with that?/G Force' joke. All round, seriously funny stuff and, as ever, some the best Doctor Who content on UA-cam.
I was 10 years old when warriors of the Deep was first broadcast and I loved it then and still love it now! I mean I know its crap but I still love it. Also its not as crap as Legend if the sea devils IMO 🤔
Jek holds up as one of the best tragic characters in Doctor Who. Might be time to go spelunking again ...
Drop the Dead Woodlice is a show I'd watch.
Or the even "The Likely Daleks" with that iconic theme song.
Oh what happened to you,
Whatever happened to me,
What became of the Kaleds,
We used to be.
So a Dalek civil war, if one side was led by Ruler Davros. surely the other side should have been led by Rula Lenska
I remember tom bakers doctor who on p.b.s.i loved it still my favorite 👍
I really liked "Resurrection of the Daleks". An unusually dark and very brutal story where barely anyone survives and it really feels like war. Setting the right tone for the Daleks. I also really loved that researcher lady with the glasses a lot, who worked for the miltary where they discovered these cylinders in the Docklands. Too bad her Character does not have a lot of screentime. She was really really sweet 🥰 They must have saved the whole seasons production costs for that entire story and probably also for Chameleon.
Caves of Androzani was so heavily cut here in Australia when first shown I think it would have been deleted completely from the season if it hadn't been for the regeneration.
I seem to remember it wasn't shown with the rest of Season 21 but postponed.
may depend on state. my memory: Season started early in the year, soon after UK broadcast. After Frontios, ABC showed two older stories, then played ressurection, and planet of fire, and then a much longer run of season 18 and 19 stories up to I think Visitation before showing the last two stories of the season.
@@StamFine That sounds about right to me.
Warriors of the Deep actor Ian McCulloch was also in a trio of Italian horror movies around about the same time, Zombie Flesh Eaters, Zombie Holocaust and Alien Contamination.
Oh wow - Zombie Flesh eaters - one of the classic video nasties! Toplessness, eyeball impalement and a guy in a zombie suit punching a shark; that movie's got everything!
I seem to recall that the highlight of season 21, along with the 'Cave Of Androzani', was for me, seeing Janet Fielding in a tight leather skirt in Frontios: almost as good as watching her squirm about in the previous season's 'Snakedance'. Right then I knew puberty was on the way.
Great retrospective
Often a list of the top 10 stories of Classic Dr Who is 9 Tom Baker episodes and Caves of Androzani.
"Oh dear, the Myrka..." Talk about dialogue that's 'on the nose!'
I always remember the transformation to Colin Baker. I had only really seen Peter Davidson in the role and I didn't like Baker. Little did I know that someone I disliked more would be next in Sylvester McCoy, although I liked Ace. Those of us growing up in the 80s had some of the worst Doctors.
This video is a triumph
Just imagine if we HAD got Australian involvement in Doctor Who. We could have had Daleks going, "G'Day mate! Ready to Exterminate?" "No worries! Daleks are Supreme!"
Perry had some smashing assets she bought to the show
I can’t wait for the Trial of a Time Lord season. Doctor Who, watching Doctor Who.
Approx. 25:00 -- the major issue, production-wise, with Kamelion is that its creator, Mike Powell, had died in an accident not long after it was accepted as a prop/companion on the show. Powell hadn't made any detailed notes about how to repair or operate the prop and, similar to when the set for the "Victorian" control room in T. Baker's era was damaged due to poor storage, the production would make no allowance for redesign nor to pay an outside professional to repair and maintain it. Otherwise, Kamelion *could* have worked as a companion, particularly as many of its appearances would be as someone else (that is, played by "x" actors in whatever episodes). But alas....
It’s baffling that for a shapeshifting companion, they didn’t think to just do that after KD and they have a character who could be used by guest stars.
@8:48 love this. Such a relateable line that transcends time.
Seeing Janet Fielding in the leather skirt was keeping me interested in the episodes....lol
I was able to see her (and Sylvester McCoy, just before he debuted in the states) at a small convention in L.A. Unfortunately, my father was in a rush to leave so I couldn't get an autograph from her.
Note: Fielding mentioned the leather skirt during her presentation. I forget, though, if she said that she designed it herself or she helped design it.
Friday is a Fine day.
As an American, I find it amusing that Nicola Bryant managed to pass for so long. I wouldn't call her an accent a bad one, so much as three or four decent ones fighting for dominance.
I think twin dilemma isn't as bad it just happened to follow after several stronger stories. I would rather watch Twin Dilemma than Timelash (although The Borad sections were good and underated villain).
I really enjoy the Davo years but I wish they hadn’t started to fiddle around with the scheduling back then. Having Who on twice a week and on weekdays never felt right, and made for really short seasons. I could also have done with another year of him. It felt as if he’d really nailed the part by the end.
Completely disagree with your take on The Awakening as it's my favourite Davison story full of atmosphere, great locations, gorgeous design and a nice tight script. Frontios is a brilliant serial, again with plenty of atmosphere and some very effective lighting. It's also by far Bidmead's best script. Resurrection is an utter mess with a confused script trying to fit too much in. Leslie Grantham was also an unknown when it aired since Dirty Den wouldn't make his debut in EastEnders for another year. Planet Of Fire is brilliant and looks great, but Nicola only kept up the fake American accent off screen until rehearsals for the story began. Otherwise, a decent overview of a pretty good season.
Great video is always I guess it takes you a long time to put that all together that's great the quality is awesome the jokes are funny I disagree with you on the worst in the Deep I really love that episode I think with a better budget and some better story lines and probably could have done better the ending is creepy and sad and there's some good stuff in it here and there but like you knew there's tons and tons of behind the scenes drama that hurt that episode I am rather fond of many of the episodes Swindle on my ass some good dialogue here in there but a really bad story thanks again it was really great can't wait to the next video
@Stam Fine have you thought about having a look at Survivors? Lots to look at there :)
As it happens, we have done a basic look at BBC post apocalyptic shows in an early video of ours with the 70s version of Survivors ua-cam.com/video/P_zJLbkNSww/v-deo.html
Don't agree with all your assessments of the stories, but some great jokes and production facts I didn't know. Bravo.
Peter Davidson is possibly my least favourite doctor .....yet I love this era of Dr Who? Try figuring that one out! Fantastic video as always thank you!!
I actually enjoyed his gentle portrayal - such a contrast today Tom Baker's sometimes shouty and angry Doctor!
Also, one of the very few Doctors I immediately liked and accepted.
I agree. If I was ranking Doctors I’d end up putting most above him, yet I really like watching most of these stories. Conversely, I always loved the sixth Doctor but most of his stories are painful to watch.
Keep it up!
The episode one cliffhanger in Warriors of the Deep is one of the funniest in all Who! Talk about giving up on the Doctor Turlough! Does he think his leg needs to be amputated when he gets cramp?
Starscream levels of calling it prematurely
I got the 1000th like! Nice review. It's not all good but there are some major diamonds in the rough here. That nose on the Gravis bugs me but Frontios is cool. I love the gritter, more grown-up feel of Resurrection (plus its later sequels with the Sixth Doctor) and Caves.Peri is one of my all-time favorite companions so that helps. Unfortunately, Twins did a lot to hurt the series and poison audiences against Colin Baker.
I liked Twin Delimma. The idea that the Doctor loses his mind after a regeneration was fun.
37:56 Peter Davison reminds me of Cary Elwes here. Would be kinda cool to see them play father and son or something.
I totally can see that.
Holy shit, I was NOT expecting to see Alexei Sayle on Dr Who. Amazing.
He appears in "Revelation of the Daleks", rather a classic of the era... some dislike his role but he's decent... and truly fantastic once he meets Peri.
I'd love for you to review blakes7
Hope they release this season on Blu Ray soon.
Yay new Doctor Who!!!
I really appreciate seeing Nicola in the final episodes of Star Trek Continues.
Within the first 5 minutes, The set looks like Moon Base Alpha. LOL
Ahhh thats where Litton comes up, I've waited over a decade to know that... yes I never bothered to google it😂
Ive been looking forward to this one, and you have not disappointed. Excellent review thankyou very much. I generally agree with you analysis. Caves of Androzani cant be praised enough and is indeed one of the best stories ever produced. I quite like the Awakening decent costume if nothing else. Resurrection of the Daleks is a mess but the Dalek assault on the space station is fun, and the mutating gas really scared me as a child. Frontios is a great idea poorly executed. Planet of Fire is just boring except for Peri in a Bikini, does have a good cast, its just so dull they dont get to shine. I dont mind twin dilemma (except the twins), but then Im a 6th Doctor Fan, I dont think he got given the chance all other Doctors have had. Now as for Warriors of the Deep, you are just wrong, Warriors of the Deep is too Dr Who what Goodellas is to gangster films and Schindlers list is too depressing but excellent mainstream cinema. What more could you want Silurians, Sea Devils, an undersea Nuclear missile base, a monster that electrocutes anything it touches, Ingrid Pitt doing what I think is meant to be Karate?? Its a triumph of modern TV not surpassed until the Sopranos ;) (you're right about the lighting though, being able to see the Murka clearly didnt do it any favour)............... Thanks for all the hard work you put in especially the Dalek songs they always make me laugh
I like the Darlek songs
I wonder if The Makus is The Face of Boe's evil twin....
The Gravis was parodied in the Christmas special of Extras
Or Mestor
Usually the top ten Classic Doctor Who stories tend to consist of The Caves of Androzani & 9 Tom Baker episodes.
Sorry but I disagree with the comment about the Daleks singing. The scenes are quick enough and give me a chuckle. Yes, they're kind of goofy, but I like them. :)
02:08 - ROFL! I could not believe my ears, there. =:oD
G Force reference ... oh my oh my does that pin down your age!
Whenever I hear that story about the cast and crew believing Nicola Bryant to be American, I die a little inside. There’s no way anyone could watch her “glahssss” scene in Caves Part 1 and not laugh.
As a kid, I loved Resurrection of the Daleks because of how extreme it was. i always liked the violent ones and as a youngster wanted Who to be more violent and bloody. Think I've mellowed a little bit since then, but still have a good time with this one.
I understand the problems with the Chameleon prop, but I think it shows a bit of a lack of imagination, using that as an excuse. This isn't K9. K9 was practically a prop 9sorry to all his fans) -- Chamaelon can assume any shape. You don't even need to use the prop much. Just get some establishing shots with the prop and you could have a different actor play him in every story. Would have been some neat story possibilities there.
6:30 Are these analogies based on a real experiences or something? That one just felt a little bit too specific lol
So looking forward to season 22 and what you are gonna be saying about Timelash.
Peri Peri Sauce.
Myrka + the karate kick = DW's worst moment, but also funniest.
'The Awakening' and 'The Caves of Androzani' are just utterly superb.
'Warriors of the Deep' is a wonderful book but suffers in television adaptation due to lack of budget. 'Frontios' is a snoozefest which is expected as its penned by Christopher H. Bidmead - a writer who's scripts can be used as anaesthetic.
'Resurrection of the Daleks' has its moments - the best being Tegan finally fucking off - but doesn't warrant 4 episodes.
'Planet of Fire' is a complex story but a noticeable improvement, especially as Kamelion is in it again, Turlough has much to do and is central to the plot and the wonderul Peter Wyngarde and his tea towel are a delight to behold.
Christopher Gable is simply out of this world as Sharaz Jek in 'The Caves of Androzani' and without him this story would be run of the mill, save for the end regeneration.
'The Twin Dilemma' is hilarious as Colin is brilliant and doesnt deserve the hate it gets. Yes, the sets, budget and acting are a massive decline of the predecessor, but still light years ahead of 'Time and the Rani' and 'Robot'.
I have always thought that Androzani was overrated.
The stuff in the first 2 episodes with the caves and the shooting and the monster was utterly boring. It picks up when The Doctor realises he has been poisoned.
the ABC cut the whole fight with Jek and Morgus when they showed it back in the day.
Will you ever do Season 1 - 6 ?
yes. eventually.
As someone that grew up watching Showa Era Super Sentai and Kamen Rider, the cheesy of classic era Doctor Who is just fine for me.
I like the Twin Dilemma. It's a space opera filled with purple prose.
At the very least, there's no Fifth... whose defining trait is sarcasm? Well, that is surprising. I was going to say something sarcastic but I wouldn't want to step on the Fifth's toes. It's all he has after al. My doctor listing as of now: 3, 6, 1, 4, 2 and last and least is 5. Sarcasm is a reaction, that's it. My preferences go off of how the various Doctors play off of "I am the Doctor" and what they emphasize; My favorites go for "I" while Tom Baker stressed "the"... the definite article one might say... and Troughton focused on "Doctor". Davison? "Am". If you're going to carry a show, you have to do more than just show up.
Doctor Who is ever so changing there have been some popular stories with weird characters and events that change the whole thread to a characters origins or a mix of good characters that standout but on the side of stories I think some writers just read what has come before and mix up the plots from older sources which doesn't mean that's bad sometimes it actually comes across darker or better than the original.
Personal I did like Peter Davison he bought something of a old boy school charm and gave a pretty good run as the Doctor but he did full down on over acting or sometimes had to remember his lines before saying them there are many moments you can see him moving his lips before a scenario comes?
I suppose the one time we actually grew closer to this Doctor was when Adrik died we saw this as a turning point in doctor history this moment made the doctor really alone even though he wasn't?
Smole me thought the Leisure Hive was boring and loved the shit out of Warriors of the Deep. I really don't get people saying the monsters in some series look bad, they look fake but monstrous and that meets my needs every time. The main difference between a Doctor Who monsters and a Hollywood monster was probably the lighting.
I have never really gotten the claim that Warriors of the Deep had any kind of a good script beneath all its production faults. It was mindless moronic misanthropy that associates bodycounts with drama, and just the show sinking to doing its own worst fanfiction. On that score, Grade and the BBC were right to consider the show past its time.
100%. (Gee, that online name looks familiar... heeheehee.)
Frankly, the ONLY way to deal with a story like "Warriors"... is to SKIP it entirely on rerurns. There are some STAR TREK episodes I do that with lately. EVEN 1st season episodes!!
Actually, there is an alternative with stories that badly-written... but it requires RE-WRITING the things from scratch, and from then on, pretending that the re-written versions are what actually happened.
Mostly a cool season, with a shaky start then getting progressively better, arriving at an all-time high with Caves of Androzani and then bombing out at the last minute. If we had to lose any classic stories to industrial action, I kind of wish it had been the Twin Dilemma. Then this season could've ended on a much better note, and Attack of the Cybermen could've been adapted into Colin Baker's first story, which would've been quite a bit better than what we got.
Tegan and Peri are so cute
Please get a show on Netflix and raise their game.
Dalekoke was brilliant
To be honest I only tuned in to Dr.Who because of the hot female assistants !