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People are so wasteful with plastic shotshells. I REALLY appreciate your video and im glad to see there are people re-using this wasted plastic. You can get 6 or 7 loadings usually from plastic shotshells before they are waste.
well i save my shells, im new to guns, only 4 months in, but i have all my brass casings and shotgun shells, but for now i dont plan to reload anything at least for shotguns, a 25 box of 16 and 12ga is like $5-8. Not even worth buying powder and primers and lead for nore wasting the time on
@@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305 someday it will be worth it. even if we can afford the ammunition we should be learning how to make it ourselves. we need to stop relying on magic boxes and the global/national market for our needs.
Paper shells much better and lasting.
I've got 6 empty shells to reload now.
Stumbled on this. Nice work sir. I love your style. You dont need a tool!!!!!!!!!!!!
@chuckHart70
Thank you. For shotgun, I only use single shot now days and this method works perfect for it. I did pick up a crimping tool recently off ebay. Works the same but without using a wax sealant.
Little tip. Get a piece of wood the same size as the inside of your shell. Drill a small all the way through right in the center. Use a small Phillips or some other rod or punch to knock out the primer. It speeds up the process a lot. A long socket with a short extension works great for setting new primers. I always used a rubber hammer. It crazie how fast loading like this can be after a while. LOL. Thanks for the video and bringing back some great memories of my youth.
I commented before I realized you had the hole in the wood. I just saw the offset hole and paused it. Sorry for not watching first.
From my point of view why do you remove the wood dowel between decapping and recapping? I don't see you examining the base wad.
An ordinary flat washer inlet into the wood block would give 360° support to the base - help prevent a possible angling bend. Clearance hole bored through the block for spent primers. A 1"x1" flat bar steel inlet likewise would help ensure flush seating of primers.
There are potential situations requiring removal of live primers - few I grant - but doing so requires very careful movements. You can remove live primers with very slow and gradually increasing pressure. HOWEVER, in most cases, it's better to simply fire the primer and remove it spent. Tapping the primer into place with a punch and hammer is a safe procedure. Lee Loaders have used this technique for decades. You will hear about the rare occasion of a primer going off during seating from someone who says "it happened to me" - and it can happen (rarely), but those rare instances are more in the nature of scareing someone than causing harm as long as ordinary safety precautions are followed.
Using a hodgepodge of cases means that internal volume is going to vary. This isn't an issue if mild to moderate loads are adhered to, but anything approaching maximum loads needs to be worked toward gradually in identical brand cases. A safe load in one case can become an overpressure load in a case with smaller internal volume. But this isn't an issue with mild to moderate loads.
As with most things, these kinds of videos should be viewed as instructional for SHTF scenarios, and not as a recommended technique for routine reloading.
Black powder is much more forgiving than smokeless. Equal volumes of black powder and shot was referred to as a "square load", or ideal, but adjustments were easily accomodated by the shotguns. If someone wants to use a hodgepodge of cases, they should restrict that activity to using black powder or substitutes as this video is doing.
The final compression taps on the lead shot, I would avoid. This will deform the shot and give erratic patterns.
Wax works but water glass glue is better - alternatively, Duco hobby cement.
Your way of loading is way better than how I do it. Thanks for showing that. I'm gonna steal your idea !
@357 bullfrog...That's what we are here for, to learn from each other. Thank you for watching.
This was my first shotgun shell reloader back in the late 70s, LOL. Only I drilled holed in my 2x4 to hold the shells and for the primers to fall through. Loaded a lot of shells like this.
The primer should be recessed into the shell face. If you're going to do it like you show, you could just hollow out a small spot on the block to accommodate the primed area then wack away as much as you like. I know it's relatively hard to set off a primer but why take the chance? Some shooters will find that shells loaded without resizing the brass first makes them very hard to chamber. That's certainly true in several of my guns.
I use a small piece of wood with a 13/16 hole for the shell & a 3/8 inside that, to hold the shell & tap the primer out..weigh my charge, wad, roll crimp, or just recrimp with needle nose turn the shell upside down & press back together, add a little super glue to help hold it..lots of them look almost factory!! Edit: Also use a thin cardboard shot card for the crimp so the crimp can glue to that.
@rockn raptor Good idea.
Nice one thank you twofeathers good lesson very much appreciated
+old bag
You're welcome. Comes in handy when you are on a weekend hunting/camping trip, shoot 10 or 12 shells then reload them while sitting back at camp that evening.
Great video! Great information!👍🏾😀❤️🇺🇸
@Jeffry Richardson Thank you.
That's slicker than a frozen dog. Thanks for sharing.
@Gary J...Slicker than Owl shit on wet pavement. Thanks for watching.
Hey Gary J!....I see you all over the place.
Thank you sir for the good ideas.
@Andrew Jepson You're welcome. That's what this is all about, sharing ideas.
Good job little buddy. I got set of car heart gloves like that tere really warm .
This is great! I'll pay you for a few of those wooden dowel with the hole center.
Have you ever a primer set off by doing this and would it be the same with a cardboard circle in wax and then over the powder one and one over the shot?
No never had a primer discharge. It is harder than most people think to set it off and if it did it wouldn't harm anything, the charge is light.
Cardboard will work. Some Shotgun Shell manufacturers use pressed cardboard.
i was trying to remove primer it did exploded no harm at all but it made a dent on the table
yasin keskin you have to remove dead primers not live ones. the live ones will obviously discharge
Why would someone be removing a live primer? Just skip right to the powder charging step.
Shotgun primers are nothing to be taken lightly, they are extremely powerful and have an increased potential to cause a in lethal injury.
Here's a personal experience I had many years ago. I tossed a live 209 in a metal barbecue, when it detonated it blew the cup clean through the side of the barbeque and then nearly penetrated the metal siding on a mobile home. It also left my ear ringing. Do Not Take Primers with a grain of salt, they can be nasty and are capable of causing serious injury or even death. I knew a guy who blew the tip of his index finger off when one detonated. Don't know exactly what he did that caused the detonation, but does it really matter? I don't think so.
Speaking from a purely survivalist perspective, would animal fat also work as a sealant instead of wax or would it not seal properly?
animal fat would work very well, it doesn't take much to keep them sealed.
@@TwoFeatherChannel thank you for both the incredible information and incredibly quick response
how much powder....grams????
@Joseph Pieterse Not really sure, I was using a Black Powder measuring device at 100 grains
Conversion calculator says 100 grains equals 6.47989 grams
I didn't weigh it on a scale so I don't know if that is correct or not
Damn no re sizing I mean if they all came from your gun no need but from random guns yeah im re sizing other then that this is a good survival tool
@sj L The ones I pick up are usually fired from Semi-auto shotguns, which most probably are Brownings. I find them where Duck hunters practice shooting clay targets. Usually a name brand semi-auto will have a tighter chamber than my single shot shotgun has, so they really don't expand that much.
wow a great video
Sir how many times we can recycle the shell?
@Emyy Tok only You can judge that. there is no time limit, you'll have to inspect each shell for any possible structural damage and fitment before reloading it again.
how much powder,how much shot,and what kind of shot?
ill have to try that! I like that little hammer
+Eric C
I use this hammer at work driving anchors into concrete, perfect size.
It seems very handy.
Do they chamber and extract ok with pump or semi-auto?
I've only use them in single shot but they should work i semi-auto/pump, as long as the shell isn't too long for your chamber. my chamber is 3 inches and I use 2.75 inch shells.
awesome!
+SneekySnakeOO
Thanks
now that was interesting never saw that done before.
+revolver8shot
It's seldom done these days since shotshells are being sold nearly everywhere. I've always like adding a little extra load and variable size shots like #6,#4 and #2 combination which you can't find in stores sold like that.
U could use the bottom of a shell as a punching tool to make wads, instead of using patches of napkins ....
@Artur S. Yes you could.
Has anyone Chrono these rounds using Pyrodex... Thinking about trying this I'd like to use it for turkey hunting or get steel shot after duck and Goose but I'm trying to figure out what the Carano says compared to what I already use
@Kansas Outdoorsman Chlumsky...Not that I know of. Black Powder has far less energy than Modern day Powder. So I imagine you will get less results using this. I've used it on Squirrels. Not sure if it would be a good choice on Turkey or Ducks.
What do you use to resize the hulls in the field?
@rogerfrench1777 Nothing, they don't need it.
Child's play. 👍🏼 Easy and great
Great video, no need for $600 of fancy equipment and plastic. Do you do 12 ga. slugs ?
@christopher Peterson No. This video is just to show you can reload out in the field while at camp.
how much powder do i put into the shot gun shell
+XXXKANEI
Depends on which powder you will be using. I used Pyrodex RS powder at 100 grains.
Does the wax foul up the barrel any???
@MyEmotionalSupportClown Not at all.
@@TwoFeatherChannel Thank you good sir. I love learning new ways to save money.
Do you cut off the excess plastic after sealing?
@Tyler Coleman...No I do not cut them. The shells I'm using are 2 3/4" chambering and my shotgun is 3" chamber, so no need to be cut. But if they where 3" shells, I would cut them.
@@TwoFeatherChannel thank you!
@@tylercoleman7580 You're welcome
What’s that hand tool he uses for charging the shells? I can’t find any hand tools for smokeless powder
@Elijah Trujillo If you can't find one locally, you can order it from amazon or several other reloading supply dealers on the internet. Black Powder Measuring Tool or Muzzleloader Powder Measure.
@@TwoFeatherChannel what’s the name of it? So I can find online
@@elijahskywalker611 Black Powder Measuring Tool or Muzzleloader Powder Measure. Search for those to names should get you what you need.
@@TwoFeatherChannel you’re a life saver
Black powder measuring flask
Great that you share, but is not necessary seen the same thing over and over to understand. Quick is better.
@paul remolina Is that what she said, quick was better?
What is the charge and how much is the weight of the bb’s?
Are those 1 peice or 2 Peice hulls? I see the wood dowel damaging the 2 peice hulls because the seem and possibly the 1 peice because they are tapered inside! In ac pinch probably would be ok but why with all the tools available today??
Really cool!
+Pat Gedeon Music
Thank you for checking it out.
don't you have to close the crimping or do these shells not have it?
that's what the wax and wad are for. crimped shells from a press and die keep the shot from rolling out. in the field you don't have a press and dies, so use wad to pack it and wax to seal it or something else like clay or talo.
aren't there also shells where the front simply folds closed by hand?@@TwoFeatherChannel
@@user-fr9ro3ir8c never heard of them. I use the factory plastic ones I find on the ground where people target shoot. they are stiff plastic and pop back up if you push the crimp down by hand.
Only problem I see is that those shells are fire formed for different guns. I wonder, did you have any issues with chambering or stuck shells in your gun?
@Cis White Dad...No problems. I only shoot these reloads in a Single Shot shotgun that is 3" chambered and the shells are 2-3/4" shells.
@@TwoFeatherChannel excellent. I have a backwoods set up for reloading 410 that lets me resize the shells, but I have no idea how I would make a resizing die for 12ga without a lathe or a drill bit that costs as much as a factory made resizing die!
@@regularfather4708 ..It would be hard to get it perfect by hand. It would take time and patience but you could tap it slightly with a hammer.
Are those copperhead bb gun bbs? This was a great video
@Dude Broski Yes ordinary copperhead bbs from any sporting goods store.
@@TwoFeatherChannel do you notice any spread difference over using an actualy wad cup? Also what choke do you usually shoot from? Ive been messing with shot sizes lately and like the copperheads but havent tried without a shot cup. Its nice to know that with a little know how you can roll a few in the feild.
@@TwoFeatherChannel I heard using air gun steel bbs will damage shotgun barrel. Is there any truth to that?
@@springer-qb4dv Physics say No
federal government made Duck hunters switch from Lead (which is soft) to Steel (which is hard)
air gun BB's are Steel Alloy and Copper Coated. Copper is a soft metal, softer than Steel but not as soft as Lead. Alloy mixed with Steel makes the Steel softer than Steel alone. many shotgun ammo companies have switched to Copper Coating Steel but still manufacture plain Steel because it is cheaper.
Be easy to buy a Lee load all and mount it to a board
@David Laverty yes that would be easy But that defeats the purpose of the video "Reloading in the Field"
@@TwoFeatherChannel it's a stupid video take enough load ammo with you and reload at home
Are those BB's you're using for shot?
+Wayne Reynolds
Yes, they are copper coated BB's.
you can use anything. it doesnt have to be bbs
What tool are you measuring your powder with?
One of those tube style black powder measuring devices
@@TwoFeatherChannel Thanks Brother! Are you using black or smokeless powder in your reloads?
Without Further Ado black powder
Where are you getting your primer
@Joshua Slaton I've gotten them from Walmart, Academy Sports and other shops that have reloading supplies.
SHTF special. Awesome.
but where do you get gunpowder and primer in SHTF? Airgun would be better for SHTF.
How many grains of powder did you use
100 grains of Pyrodex RS powder only, not typical shotgun powder.
How much powder did you use
@John Walters...100 grains of Pyrodex RS Black Powder.
@@TwoFeatherChannel how many ozs of bbs
@@johnwalters7415 I just fill it up and leave enough room to cap off the top, didn't weigh it.
this is so cool
Yes, it is enjoyable when you can do things on your own.
How would using duct tape over the crimp work?
Thought only brass shells were "reloadable" '-'
Interesting video. I've seen this done where the reloader guy cut off the crimp, but you left yours on. Do they always seat nicely when you put them in the chamber?
Also - I like the idea of using a cloth patch rather than an expensive paid for fibre wad. What chance the patch will catch fire and start a forest fire?
I tried reloading with a dismantled new shell the other day using PYRODEX instead of the nitro powder. I used them in my side by side and the recoil of firing the first barrel dislodged the over shot card and the damned shot ran out down the barrel.... Not great. maybe your cloth patch would work better, and you certainly have more space to pack it in with leaving teh crimp area on the case.
I use a Single Shot breakdown barrel shotgun with a 3 inch chamber and the Shells I use are 2.75 inch, that leaves me some room to play with like adding more shot. That's why I don't need to cut off the crimped tops.
The Powder burns so fast, the small amount of cotton cloth shouldn't be a problem but if it did I would just stomp it out. Could use Wool, it is naturally Fire and Water resistant.
Thanks for the info. :)
I tried pushing some empty cases from mine in and out of the chambers and mostly they go in fine. I'm going to try your method.
I had a first try out the other day using a cut down case (crimp off) and a card wad glued in... Worked fine as long as it was the first shot. I use a side by side and with two shells loaded, when one is fired, the card breaks out and the shot in the other barrel runs down the tube.... I need to work on it more. Could be a longer case and some cloth pushed on top of the shot will hold better under recoil.
Tonyv1951
You might try packing the BB's tighter then add thicker layer off wadding before you seal it.
Another final step would be to trim off about a quarter inch of the end of the shell and use a little roll crimping tool to seal in the pellets, along with a final cardboard cover wad.
It might almost be easier to buy a lee load all 2, screw it down to a board, but a couple large rubber footed C claps and clamp the board right down to the edge of the tail gate.
@bystander66...Seems you missed the idea of the video also. Reloading with limited amount of carry.
TwoFeatherChannel No I hear ya, just putting another idea out there to speed up the process lol. That’s a sweet set up
Where we get the parts which u use like fire pin. And gun powder
Please tell me
@My Channel
Long shaft Pin Punch came from Harbor Freight, any Tool Store will have those.
Pyrodex Black Powder came from Academy Sports Store, any Firearm Store with reloading supplies should have it.
Great job like your work can you tell me how much powder and how much short are you loading thanks for sharing
I will have to try this!
Can I use candle wax ?
+Internet Troll
Yes candle wax will work.
Where do y'all get primer caps
@Gary Honeybuss walmart, academy sports.
Thank you so much.
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What powder do you use?
@John Walters....Pyrodex RS, it's a black powder.
@@TwoFeatherChannel have you ever loaded any #6 that way?
@@johnwalters7415 I didn't have any #6 lead shot, but it will work the same as the BB's.
Could u use hot glue gun to seal or even pine tar glue would maybe be good for shit hits the fan
@Truth Seeker Yes any of those will work to keep the pellets from rolling out while you carry it in your pocket.
Nice job very well done can you answer a couple of questions i see you are loading hi and low brass can you tell me what is your charge grains of powder and shot also are you using black powder or something else thanks for sharing
@HUX METAL WORKS 100gr Pyrodex black powder. BB's I just fill it up to where I can still seal it.
Very cool.
Thank you
how many grains of powder? and what kind of powder?
100 grains of Pyrodex RS.
What did you use for patches? Old T-shirt
@shitdevil1991 Yes old cotton t-shirt.
@@TwoFeatherChannel thank you for answering
cool method
+dseed norway
Thank you, simple and easy way to reload on the move.
nice method
+MCKwilly
It's good to make the shot and load the way you need it.
How mush powder would I use in a 20 gauge shell
@John Walters
I don't have a 20 gauge and never looked at any other size. I'm using 100 gr. so 75 gr. might be enough.
Thanks for getting back to me .I finally came across the information and 75 to 80 will work
@John Walters
Good deal. The Pyrodex powder is not as critical as modern slow burning powders are. A little more or less doesn't have those pressure issues.
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What about resizing the brass?
+hdman97
Does not need to be resized in the single shot shotgun I use. It might in a pump or semiauto.
If your shooting them in the same shotgun it should still function because they are formed to the chamber already
Thanks for the nice demo. But wouldn't a tong be useful to hold the hull while you reload it? (in the slight chance that gun powder/primer goes off and blows off one's fingers).
sure if you live in fear your whole life, then by all means wear a bomb proof suit
but I know it takes a lot of force to detonate a primer and had fireworks go off in my hand in the 1960's
black powder is what is used in fireworks and to make an explosion it has to be tightly wrapped
if you spread out black powder loosely in a pile and light it, all it does is a quick flash of fire, no explosion
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I could handle it till the wax pouring.
+MyHollowpoint
Wax On Wax Off, yeah that would be painful.
MyHollowpoint I've seen some use elmers glue.
I don't even mess with the over load wad, just hot wax on a side by side
this is good if you are bored with nothing to do.
+Mr llorT
I wouldn't know, never been bored before and always have something to do.
Be careful hitting that that hard I have heard if you pack it to hard it will blow up on you
hi.
I am new to reloading and don't have any of the kit, is it possible just to buy shells with the same weight of shot you want to put in, take out the shot and replace it with your own shot and then crimp it again
It would be hard to remove the shot from a factory crimped shell without damaging it. I don't think you can crimp a shell without a reloading press. That's why I seal it off with wax.
Take a look at the Survival Loader. you can load your own easy and inexpensive.
go to; thexringusa.com comes in 12 ga. and 410 ga.
@@barrydeclined2547 Looks like a good recommendation, you deserve a beer. 🍺
I would take you up on that if we were nearer. LOL. best of luck. Barry
Those bbs will annihilate your forcing cone and barrel!
I heard they make all brass BBs as well. Not sure where to find them though.
Get a Lee Loader
@416loren...I guess you missed the whole point of the video. To reload in the wild, without a press.
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why do you need to seal it can't you just re crimp it?
+Nelson rodriguez
Because it is reloading "in the field" not reloading at a reloading bench using a press.
TwoFeatherChannel it'll be cool if they ever made a portable recrimp device for field use.
+Nelson rodriguez
That would be nice. Don't know how long the crimp would hold, it takes a lot of pressure to crimp it. I've tried by hand but it eventually it opens up.
Nelson rodriguez roll crimp on a rechargable drill or hand crank krimper amazan?? You know youll be reloading you got powder. Like the video thanks..
@@nelsonr1467 they do bit not the sape crimp as the factory one
Dont use a hammer on the primer ...bang bang = boom! YOUR whole proceedure looks dangerouse as heck and primitive.
+ss boot
It was meant for primitive use, reloading in the field. Hammer does not come in contact with a fully charged primer in any way to make it discharge.
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I just got my Xring field reloading kit!!!! I love it so far!!! I just need a few more items and then find a good recipe for Pyrodex RS powder and 00 buckshot!!!
@SkyBrigidRain Good deal. I bought a hand crimper from a Russian guy off ebay but haven't used it yet.
@@TwoFeatherChannel Is it the roll crimper that bolts to a table? or maybe the fully handheld one?? The same guy sells both. I'm waiting on mine to get here. I got the rolls crimper. I just reprimed 35 shells. I have the pyrodex powder, but no wads or shot yet. I also have a big bag of old bore cleaning cloths. Can I use those as wadding? Right now I can do the six and eight point crimps. So I don't need the wax. Not sure about an overshot card especially as I'll be using 00 buck. But I've seen a huge amount of different ways to reload 12 gauge. I guess I'll have to start a recipe book for them lol The manuals seem way too confusing and the info in them seems to change heavily. Like with the different wads and shell hulls.
Also, The ONLY problem I have with my reloading kit is the horseshoe repriming base. the primers scratch the aluminum. I get that it's light weight, but they could rivet in a plate of steel. Or would that be too hard? Anyway, it works great!!!
@@SkyBrigidRain It clamps onto the table. I bought it about two or three years ago, just haven't loaded any shells in a long time.
@@TwoFeatherChannel CooL! I hear the roll crimp is much better than the star crimps.
Did you find a suitable recipe that you could share? Thank you.