I’m in the market for a ZL1 and this has been the best review I’ve seen on the car, you went in to detail on the transmission on things that I didn’t know about because I didn’t get that from other UA-cam reviews
My wife’s daily driver is a 2017 Camaro RS convertible, 6 speed manual. Same color blue as yours, I thinks it’s called Hyper Blue Metallic. I love that car. She loves it too.
George A why bash on the RS? it costs less to buy, less money on gas, insurance, and maintenance, looks great, it’s a ton of fun to drive, and it’s probably faster than whatever you drive lol
I was in the U.S.A.F before 9/11! Was never a pilot, yet I feel right @ home in this cockpit. I can see why this REAL pilot chooses the cars & cockpits he does. Especially those Z vette classes he has had. Nice ride to you MASTER OF THE SKIES. 👍🏽🥂🙇🏽♂️
Appreciate the honest review and the comparison to the c6 and c7 z06 really helped tremendously. I had a aggressive head cam c6 z06 and it just became tiring to drive and was not daily driver friendly enough. This car seems leaps and bounds better for daily use while still being very exciting and rewarding to drive.
I love the color! The zl1 has been my dream car for a while now. From what I remember, it has 11 intercoolers/heat exchangers that keep that engine from overheating
I purchased my ZL1 about two years ago. I have not had any problems with this car. I hit 15,000 miles. This is my 4th Camaro and I guess the reason I stay with the Camaro is it is the most reliable car I have ever owned. I think it is also the nicest looking, best handling car for the money. I love all the American Muscle cars but I don’t see as many Camaro’s as I do mustangs and mopars. I like that. I don’t want to drive a car that everyone has. I love the way the car handles and the way it takes off when you step on the pedal. I use my car to get back and forth to work every day which makes the drive enjoyable. This car has it all. Oh, and by the way, I have not had any problems with the paint. Just the normal paint chips from the debris on the road.
Totally agree with everything you say I own a summit white version and to combat the paint defects I have it color corrected and fully xpel’d... you’ve earned a new sub thank you for your service!
I have a 07 Z06 6spd. It's all stock I just put a K&N air filter box with Billy boat cat back system. I bought it brand new in 07 I'll never sell it it's my summer toy. I have 23,000 miles on it.
I know this is an old thread, but I wanted to just note that I found the same thing true on this car vs C7 Z06.....The C7 Z06 was a spinning machine, where this Camaro ZL1 puts down the power much more efficiently. It makes this car much more fun(and safe) to drive, I love it.....and it is plenty fast
Great review. We have a 1LE SS in my autocross club, driven by a multiclass national champion and he's often FTD or very close. His car is blue, too. From your review, I would expect yours to be even faster although there's not a need to shift the trans with a manual once in 2nd gear. the top end Camaros are pretty impressive performance-wise. The PTM seems to work great to make the car drivable with that much horsepower. Thanks!
ZL1 is so good and a great value, definitely slept on by the public. I have a ‘23 rapid blue and only saw 1 other ZL1 on the road. It turns into corners so effortlessly with Zero body roll, the car is amazing! Never sell! Great honest review! Thank you
also this car and the corvette Zo6 were tested by randy pobst known for setting the quick times with street cars and noted road course racer, your car is faster than any corvette on the track. it was also faster on the nurbering, the reason was exactly like you said, it puts the power to the ground better than the corvette does,
I have the 2017 ZL1 6 speed Absolutely love it 3 problems though 1. Pulling out in 1st gear, the fueling sucks and it shuts the fuel down if the throttle is even a single mm off. 2. Wish the Throttle maps, suspension settings and steering modes were decoupled. I’d love to have the lightest steering with the track setting for the throttle 3. The BS 1-4 shift lock , you can get around it by holding onto 1st linger or by going 1-3 I live in Detroit and I’ve seen a couple of 1LEs near where I live and I’ve seen them bounce over even the smallest road imperfection
I owned a ZL1 1LE and wound up trading it in for a '19 Grand Sport (had an SS 1LE before that). I would honestly say that your non 1LE ZL1 is the best Camaro out there if you plan on driving it on the street at all. LOVED the ZLE, but it was flat out dangerous on the road (tires), and too harsh (DSSV shocks). Perfect Camaro would be your car with 1LE aero IMO. GREAT channel, subbed. THANKS
Great review and I think your assessment is spot on! The car does come with a few gripes, but to me they are mostly minor (aside from the paint issue you discussed). For the money, I think the car is amazing. One thing you didn't mention was the ability to keep the exhaust in sport or track mode (via the settings menu) while the suspension and steering are in touring mode (via the console switch). That's a nice feature that lets you customize the sound and feel to your liking.
Excellent review brother. Both my wife and I are looking forward towards purchasing a new ZL1 6M. I miss having a V8 and a manual transmission. Back in high school I had a 1968 Mustang that ran 11.71@121mph on slicks. She was my very first car _and_ a daily driver. She also cost me four girlfriends, two and a half jobs and a copious amount of money (usually for gas and upgrades). In her prime she got an abysmal ~9mpg but then again gas was also .98 cents per gallon for Premium. Mind you, this was roughly 20+ years ago. I have no idea what gas prices were back in the 60s/70s. Nevertheless, I would plan my weekends accordingly. They were basically a cruise (sometimes a sprint) from gas station to gas station until I eventually made my way home. Ah those were good times. Lastly, I want to give you a tremendous shout-out for combining my two worlds. 2A and cars. Being that Arizona is a Constitutional Carry state, I have no reason to be disarmed. Therefore, I am curious how appendix carry feels in the ZL1? Stay classy my friend.
I had the same process prior to getting a 2019 ZL1 as far as the transmission. All my other performance cars are 6-speeds, but after test driving the 10-speed I was sold easily and have no regrets. It's mated perfectly to the car with it's torque/power band and shifts remarkably fast. It's also very smart and intuitive in that it will stay in gear to redline when driving hard and also downshift gears perfectly depending how hard you whomp on the throttle = "Performance shift activated". It's the faster of the transmissions and isn't even offered in the Corvette which is a big deal as the Z06 is 30k more with the same engine.
Thanks for the review I can only dream of having one but it’s nice when someone writes a good review what it is like to own one and drive one for a period of time
Sharp looking car Mover. Looks like it’s going a buck and a half standing still. The video at the Nola track really showed what it could do. I’ve always been a manual shift fan in the 3 corvettes I’ve had over the years, and us cops (retired now) drive all day with one hand but I can see how it would be a distraction on a track shifting up and down. Hands at 10 and 2 with an automatic seems like the better alternative. Watch your six and always remember - “Complacency” kills cops. (Bill from Slidell).
I as well owned a 2001 SOM SS and really miss the open air drive. But my 2019 ZL1 is a worthwhile upgrade. I love the blue as well. Best wishes Mover and keep up the solid work. Thank you for your Service.
I love the car ✊I have the nightfall gray metallic 2018 Camaro SS. I have done a paint correction and ceramic coating myself. I get so many compliments about the shine and color. I love the blue and I also have a sunroof it came with it.I blacked out the car with the smoked taillights and emblems. I enjoy the car and I’m glad you are enjoying it as well.Thanks for the time and effort you put into the video ✊
@@W0rld_Toor Either one of u But Big D said he had a paint correction done I heard alot of chevys have the peeling problem Iam going to look at a 19 zl1 Tuesday and defiantly want to fix the paint before it's a problem
@@42XX10 yeah that's true, even the guys who corrected my car's paint told me Chevy uses really cheap pain for the Camaros. They said the trucks are a different story but the Camaros for some reason have cheap paint. Honestly man I know it's gonna be expensive but it is worth it. U will always turn around and adore ur car no matter where u go just because of how good the paint is. And the orange peeling doesn't start right away it's mainly due to a lot of car washing and not using the right soap. But there are many more problems with the paint. For example the clear coat takes minor scratches easily. A rock chip can strip the paint through primer all the way down to metal. And many more. So if you can go for it, if not then wash the car ur self and polish it once a month at least.
Nice car, reminds me of my 1983 Trans Am. Which had no room for a car seat and I had to trade in for Mini-Van. Now that all the kids are grown that Camaro just might be calling my name!
Great review! I always support Camaro owners. I can see the passion in you and the respect you have for the car. You seem to be a humble person. Keep having fun and live life full😜
I’m considering buying a 19 C7 Z06 or 22-23 ZL1 Camaro. Which one would you recommend? Not often you find someone who’s actually owned both vehicles. I’m the type of person who loves to drive performance vehicles how they are meant to be driven a lot of people have told me the Z06 is way too dangerous and I should go with the Maro because it handles like it’s on rails. I feel like looks alone the vette is an absolute neck breaker and with proper seat time I could learn how to have fun in the corvette safely. The Camaro shines as well with having a very nice interior and newer technology plus that awesome 10 speed. Really would appreciate your input
Nice Camaro, beautiful color. But, I can't see paying $50k+ for any automobile. I've owned a 68' 78' 88' Camaro. But, skipped the 90s 00s. I keep thinking about a new one, but $50k+.... is hard to fork over. I only paid, $4k in 68, $12k in 78, and $19k for my 88' IROC Convertible, new off the showroom floor... $50+... whew
Orange peel is on every new car in varying degrees. Only way to get rid of it is to have someone polish the surface down flat with polishing compound, which takes hours.
Hi, First, I want to thank you for your series and inspiration, I am on track to get a bachelor in Aerospace Engineering and Air Force ROTC. I am wanting to become a F-16 or A-10 pilot and read your books didn't know you had a youtube channel. Thanks for all of the advice, just have a few questions if you have time. Since you have the "option" to choose your aircraft in the reserves if you wanted to transfer to active duty would you still fly the same aircraft? I am in Air Force ROTC and didn't know if you could go into the reserves without going to OTS? Trying to find the best way to fly the aircraft I would like and if I need to study or do whatever I will, just want the best possible way to fly F-16. Thanks for the inspiration (making people tell me no has HELPED SOOOOO MUCH) thank you.
Very well done. I am thinking of getting a new 2021, auto base with same options you have. OR a Hellcat?? Have you ever been beside one or a 392 Dodge 1320? Thanks again for your Service. Semper Fi.
Hey thanks for the video. I felt like your opinion wasn’t an, “I’m in love with my car it’s so amazing” kind of opinion. I’m possibly pulling the trigger on a zl1 this weekend or next week. Drove it today on a test drive but didn’t really get intimate with it. Maybe I’ll sit in it tomorrow and spend an hour on the settings. Def a sweet car.
I track a '14 SS 1LE, I'm thinking about an A10 ZL1 or ZL1 1LE. Funny you mentioned the "German pillbox", haha, that's how I've described the Gen 5 Camaros. Great review, you know your car stuff.
Hey how's it going? I'm in the market for a c6 ZR1 or a 17+ ZL1..I believe you said you had a c6 ZR1.. After owning both do prefer the ZL1 over the ZR1?
I enjoyed the video. I have a 6speed 2017 ZL1. You can customize the exhaust setting such that the exhaust is on the sport mode when you drive in touring mode. You can do the same with the steering setting as well.
Agree about the pop-up Navi screen hidden compartment design.They should incorporate that as standard being that it was such an innovative design that definitely gave it's interiors that surprise element! But now they want to copy everyone else with that oops we almost forgot look of these new designed Navi screens! Great car by the way & very informative!!
Great review! I am thinking about buying a 2019 ZL1 and your review helped with my decision. I will track the car at Sebring a couple times a year so I am glad to hear you had no overheating issues at all. Did you have any issues with brake fade with the stock brakes at your track day?
Hey bro - very nice video. I'm really a gun channel but I have the 2017 Camaro ZL1 and have done a couple vids with it. Mine is still under 3k miles at just over two years old - but I'm hoping better weather and lighter workload can help me rectify that a bit this summer. I have the M6 trans and enjoy rowing through the gears, but I'd love to feel the 10 spd sometime. Envy your access to a track! Mine is limited to Sunday drives.
Had a feeling you was in Louisiana when I saw Hood Chevy, then it was confirmed when you said Belle Chasse. I'm looking to get a ZLE hopefully soon. Subscribed
Install a catch can on it especially since its direct injected, i have a 2016 camaro 2SS myself and installed one and within a week its already collecting oil
Beautiful car. I pick my 2019 ZL1 this Wednesday, can't wait. Trading my way less worthy 2018 GT350 for it. Really excited man. Only thing I would say negative to ya man is you should of stayed true to the manual. I made that mistake before going auto in my hellcat. Never make that mistake again. Auto no matter how good they are, they just get boring. Good review...... Cheers pal.
Great video and very interesting! Congrats on the year of vlogs! How do you think car will do with lots of miles on it? I'm averaging 22K miles per year in my Optima....
@@CWLemoine I’m sorry before I posted that I didn’t realize you had both! I watched your comparison between the ZL1 and the C7 so I am curious what you think of the C6 ZR1 vs the ZL1. Thanks!
@@CWLemoine I would be using it for mostly street duty, maybe an occasional track day but I’ve never done one before so I doubt I could drive the either car to its potential. I like the ZR1 but the market is so crazy for it now. I’m trying to decide if it’s worth it paying 70+k for a used ZR1.. or just go with a new ZL1 for MSRP.
If you could go back and have the same car but in a manual would you pick it over the 10 speed? I am looking at getting one but the trans is the biggest problem I have.
Great update and review and I love the car. Being the only one that has mentioned the paint as an issue have you had any further issues or tried any corrections to the paint job? Also have you had any protective film kits installed ? Thanks
Jaison J Camaro’s aren’t known for great reliability, but that’s often the case with sports cars. People generally buy them for fun, not cuz they want a long-lasting car.
@@jdub1139 orange peel is a factory defect in which the paint has a textured look (like an orange peel) beneath the clearcoat. I have never heard of any cars with actual peeling paint.
my 2017 f150 is that color, IMO that color blue is just about impossible for them to paint right. it aint that great on my f150 either, so don't feel bad
@@CWLemoine They spent a lot of money on a new paint booth for the Vette line; think that will trickle down to the Camaros? Rick Corvette Conti did a video on it last year.
Always rewarding to hear reviews from actual owners rather than journalists. Thanks for sharing!
I’m in the market for a ZL1 and this has been the best review I’ve seen on the car, you went in to detail on the transmission on things that I didn’t know about because I didn’t get that from other UA-cam reviews
Get it! You'll love the car!
The people with great car knowledge don’t get the proper recognition. I already like your channel
My wife’s daily driver is a 2017 Camaro RS convertible, 6 speed manual. Same color blue as yours, I thinks it’s called Hyper Blue Metallic.
I love that car. She loves it too.
Chris Thompson except you forgot to say it has no balls
George A why bash on the RS? it costs less to buy, less money on gas, insurance, and maintenance, looks great, it’s a ton of fun to drive, and it’s probably faster than whatever you drive lol
Steven C v6 Lol impala engine
T U all I gotta say is it’s cute
@@jorgearmenta3998 it's still a 300+ HP car.
I was in the U.S.A.F before 9/11! Was never a pilot, yet I feel right @ home in this cockpit. I can see why this REAL pilot chooses the cars & cockpits he does. Especially those Z vette classes he has had. Nice ride to you MASTER OF THE SKIES. 👍🏽🥂🙇🏽♂️
I'd def be down for more car stuff in the future
Appreciate the honest review and the comparison to the c6 and c7 z06 really helped tremendously. I had a aggressive head cam c6 z06 and it just became tiring to drive and was not daily driver friendly enough. This car seems leaps and bounds better for daily use while still being very exciting and rewarding to drive.
I love the color! The zl1 has been my dream car for a while now. From what I remember, it has 11 intercoolers/heat exchangers that keep that engine from overheating
You're living the dream with that car! I have a 911, which is a great car, but the ZL1 has gotten so good.
I purchased my ZL1 about two years ago. I have not had any problems with this car. I hit 15,000 miles. This is my 4th Camaro and I guess the reason I stay with the Camaro is it is the most reliable car I have ever owned. I think it is also the nicest looking, best handling car for the money. I love all the American Muscle cars but I don’t see as many Camaro’s as I do mustangs and mopars. I like that. I don’t want to drive a car that everyone has. I love the way the car handles and the way it takes off when you step on the pedal. I use my car to get back and forth to work every day which makes the drive enjoyable. This car has it all. Oh, and by the way, I have not had any problems with the paint. Just the normal paint chips from the debris on the road.
Totally agree with everything you say I own a summit white version and to combat the paint defects I have it color corrected and fully xpel’d... you’ve earned a new sub thank you for your service!
How much for the full xpel?
Hell yeah !! I’ve done 12 track days and 31000 miles in my 2018 ! 🔥🏁🇺🇸
I have a 07 Z06 6spd. It's all stock I just put a K&N air filter box with Billy boat cat back system. I bought it brand new in 07 I'll never sell it it's my summer toy. I have 23,000 miles on it.
Thanks for this review. I’m looking for one of these and test drove one today. I appreciate the thoroughness of this and candid feel. Again; thanks.
I know this is an old thread, but I wanted to just note that I found the same thing true on this car vs C7 Z06.....The C7 Z06 was a spinning machine, where this Camaro ZL1 puts down the power much more efficiently. It makes this car much more fun(and safe) to drive, I love it.....and it is plenty fast
Great review. We have a 1LE SS in my autocross club, driven by a multiclass national champion and he's often FTD or very close. His car is blue, too. From your review, I would expect yours to be even faster although there's not a need to shift the trans with a manual once in 2nd gear. the top end Camaros are pretty impressive performance-wise. The PTM seems to work great to make the car drivable with that much horsepower. Thanks!
ZL1 is so good and a great value, definitely slept on by the public. I have a ‘23 rapid blue and only saw 1 other ZL1 on the road. It turns into corners so effortlessly with Zero body roll, the car is amazing! Never sell!
Great honest review! Thank you
also this car and the corvette Zo6 were tested by randy pobst known for setting the quick times with street cars and noted road course racer, your car is faster than any corvette on the track. it was also faster on the nurbering, the reason was exactly like you said, it puts the power to the ground better than the corvette does,
I have the 2017 ZL1 6 speed
Absolutely love it
3 problems though
1. Pulling out in 1st gear, the fueling sucks and it shuts the fuel down if the throttle is even a single mm off.
2. Wish the Throttle maps, suspension settings and steering modes were decoupled. I’d love to have the lightest steering with the track setting for the throttle
3. The BS 1-4 shift lock , you can get around it by holding onto 1st linger or by going 1-3
I live in Detroit and I’ve seen a couple of 1LEs near where I live and I’ve seen them bounce over even the smallest road imperfection
I thought you could decouple?
C.W. Lemoine its just the snow,track,sport and tour presets that control everything
My hyper blue metallic zl1 is the beat purchase I've ever made. Glad you love yours too.
I owned a ZL1 1LE and wound up trading it in for a '19 Grand Sport (had an SS 1LE before that). I would honestly say that your non 1LE ZL1 is the best Camaro out there if you plan on driving it on the street at all. LOVED the ZLE, but it was flat out dangerous on the road (tires), and too harsh (DSSV shocks). Perfect Camaro would be your car with 1LE aero IMO. GREAT channel, subbed. THANKS
After I pay off my '18 SS I'm going to try to trade it in on a ZL1. I love it! Great video.
Great review and I think your assessment is spot on! The car does come with a few gripes, but to me they are mostly minor (aside from the paint issue you discussed). For the money, I think the car is amazing. One thing you didn't mention was the ability to keep the exhaust in sport or track mode (via the settings menu) while the suspension and steering are in touring mode (via the console switch). That's a nice feature that lets you customize the sound and feel to your liking.
Good point!
@@CWLemoine ,
Great review. ☺👍
Which wire bundle did your car have problems with?
I'm super undecided between a 2019 Grand Sport or ZL1.... 😞
@@williamhorvat8224 it was at the front of the engine. I didn't actually see it. If you want to use it on the track, I'd get the Zl1 1LE with the A10.
Excellent review brother.
Both my wife and I are looking forward towards purchasing a new ZL1 6M.
I miss having a V8 and a manual transmission. Back in high school I had a 1968 Mustang that ran 11.71@121mph on slicks. She was my very first car _and_ a daily driver.
She also cost me four girlfriends, two and a half jobs and a copious amount of money (usually for gas and upgrades). In her prime she got an abysmal ~9mpg but then again gas was also .98 cents per gallon for Premium.
Mind you, this was roughly 20+ years ago. I have no idea what gas prices were back in the 60s/70s. Nevertheless, I would plan my weekends accordingly. They were basically a cruise (sometimes a sprint) from gas station to gas station until I eventually made my way home.
Ah those were good times.
Lastly, I want to give you a tremendous shout-out for combining my two worlds. 2A and cars. Being that Arizona is a Constitutional Carry state, I have no reason to be disarmed. Therefore, I am curious how appendix carry feels in the ZL1?
Stay classy my friend.
I had the same process prior to getting a 2019 ZL1 as far as the transmission. All my other performance cars are 6-speeds, but after test driving the 10-speed I was sold easily and have no regrets. It's mated perfectly to the car with it's torque/power band and shifts remarkably fast. It's also very smart and intuitive in that it will stay in gear to redline when driving hard and also downshift gears perfectly depending how hard you whomp on the throttle = "Performance shift activated". It's the faster of the transmissions and isn't even offered in the Corvette which is a big deal as the Z06 is 30k more with the same engine.
Thanks for the review I can only dream of having one but it’s nice when someone writes a good review what it is like to own one and drive one for a period of time
Sharp looking car Mover. Looks like it’s going a buck and a half standing still. The video at the Nola track really showed what it could do. I’ve always been a manual shift fan in the 3 corvettes I’ve had over the years, and us cops (retired now) drive all day with one hand but I can see how it would be a distraction on a track shifting up and down.
Hands at 10 and 2 with an automatic seems like the better alternative. Watch your six and always remember - “Complacency” kills cops. (Bill from Slidell).
I as well owned a 2001 SOM SS and really miss the open air drive. But my 2019 ZL1 is a worthwhile upgrade. I love the blue as well.
Best wishes Mover and keep up the solid work.
Thank you for your Service.
I am so glad I finally found a review on a sports car that outlines the conceal carry opinion. Almost impossible to hear these days.
Looks and sounds great but how's the cup holder situation?
This man is asking the real questions. If it can’t hold my 32 ounce Big Gulp, then it’s a no from me.
Oakley141 yup...
Great review and insight into your ZL1. Thank you!
I love the car ✊I have the nightfall gray metallic 2018 Camaro SS. I have done a paint correction and ceramic coating myself. I get so many compliments about the shine and color. I love the blue and I also have a sunroof it came with it.I blacked out the car with the smoked taillights and emblems. I enjoy the car and I’m glad you are enjoying it as well.Thanks for the time and effort you put into the video ✊
Yeah I have a black Camaro I did the same. Even on its dirtiest days or looks shiny!!! It's a must have. Especially on Camaros
Did U have the orange peeling like he did And if so how'd u correct it
@@42XX10 if u r asking me, no I got a ceramic coating first thing when I bought the car.
@@W0rld_Toor Either one of u But Big D said he had a paint correction done I heard alot of chevys have the peeling problem Iam going to look at a 19 zl1 Tuesday and defiantly want to fix the paint before it's a problem
@@42XX10 yeah that's true, even the guys who corrected my car's paint told me Chevy uses really cheap pain for the Camaros. They said the trucks are a different story but the Camaros for some reason have cheap paint. Honestly man I know it's gonna be expensive but it is worth it. U will always turn around and adore ur car no matter where u go just because of how good the paint is. And the orange peeling doesn't start right away it's mainly due to a lot of car washing and not using the right soap. But there are many more problems with the paint. For example the clear coat takes minor scratches easily. A rock chip can strip the paint through primer all the way down to metal. And many more. So if you can go for it, if not then wash the car ur self and polish it once a month at least.
Nice car, reminds me of my 1983 Trans Am. Which had no room for a car seat and I had to trade in for Mini-Van. Now that all the kids are grown that Camaro just might be calling my name!
Great review! I always support Camaro owners. I can see the passion in you and the respect you have for the car. You seem to be a humble person. Keep having fun and live life full😜
Very nice, informative, detailed, expert review! I find this review interesting and extremely helpful. Thank you so much!
Well i really like the VLOG for sure. I wish i owned one. Again Thank you MOVER.
Bad ass dude...def trading in my 14 for a 18 or 19 zl1
I’m considering buying a 19 C7 Z06 or 22-23 ZL1 Camaro. Which one would you recommend? Not often you find someone who’s actually owned both vehicles. I’m the type of person who loves to drive performance vehicles how they are meant to be driven a lot of people have told me the Z06 is way too dangerous and I should go with the Maro because it handles like it’s on rails. I feel like looks alone the vette is an absolute neck breaker and with proper seat time I could learn how to have fun in the corvette safely. The Camaro shines as well with having a very nice interior and newer technology plus that awesome 10 speed. Really would appreciate your input
Nice Camaro, beautiful color. But, I can't see paying $50k+ for any automobile. I've owned a 68' 78' 88' Camaro. But, skipped the 90s 00s. I keep thinking about a new one, but $50k+.... is hard to fork over.
I only paid, $4k in 68, $12k in 78, and $19k for my 88' IROC Convertible, new off the showroom floor... $50+... whew
This is the perfect daily sports car. I know you mentioned that you would prefer the 1LE, but it is way too stiff to drive it every day.
This just earned you a new subscriber 💯
Cars have not been an interest for. But now that I watched this, I feel like owning a Camaro some day for sure!
Orange peel is on every new car in varying degrees. Only way to get rid of it is to have someone polish the surface down flat with polishing compound, which takes hours.
Hi,
First, I want to thank you for your series and inspiration, I am on track to get a bachelor in Aerospace Engineering and Air Force ROTC. I am wanting to become a F-16 or A-10 pilot and read your books didn't know you had a youtube channel. Thanks for all of the advice, just have a few questions if you have time.
Since you have the "option" to choose your aircraft in the reserves if you wanted to transfer to active duty would you still fly the same aircraft? I am in Air Force ROTC and didn't know if you could go into the reserves without going to OTS? Trying to find the best way to fly the aircraft I would like and if I need to study or do whatever I will, just want the best possible way to fly F-16. Thanks for the inspiration (making people tell me no has HELPED SOOOOO MUCH) thank you.
Sounds like a question for the Mover Mailbag 🤔
Very well done. I am thinking of getting a new 2021, auto base with same options you have. OR a Hellcat?? Have you ever been beside one or a 392 Dodge 1320? Thanks again for your Service. Semper Fi.
Hey thanks for the video. I felt like your opinion wasn’t an, “I’m in love with my car it’s so amazing” kind of opinion. I’m possibly pulling the trigger on a zl1 this weekend or next week. Drove it today on a test drive but didn’t really get intimate with it. Maybe I’ll sit in it tomorrow and spend an hour on the settings. Def a sweet car.
I track a '14 SS 1LE, I'm thinking about an A10 ZL1 or ZL1 1LE. Funny you mentioned the "German pillbox", haha, that's how I've described the Gen 5 Camaros. Great review, you know your car stuff.
Ha Ha big guy in the back seat did not look happy! Old video, but just bought my 2018 with 15,000 miles , manual and I love it! DG
Nice car. Thanks for the heads up. Which one was the fastest?
It's the ATS platform not the CTS platform.
Both actually
Correct. And ATS is very underrated.
Hey how's it going? I'm in the market for a c6 ZR1 or a 17+ ZL1..I believe you said you had a c6 ZR1.. After owning both do prefer the ZL1 over the ZR1?
Love the TBL sticker! Great review!
I enjoyed the video. I have a 6speed 2017 ZL1. You can customize the exhaust setting such that the exhaust is on the sport mode when you drive in touring mode. You can do the same with the steering setting as well.
Great review do you know where the harness rubbed through
Agree about the pop-up Navi screen hidden compartment design.They should incorporate that as standard being that it was such an innovative design that definitely gave it's interiors that surprise element! But now they want to copy everyone else with that oops we almost forgot look of these new designed Navi screens! Great car by the way & very informative!!
Great review! I am thinking about buying a 2019 ZL1 and your review helped with my decision. I will track the car at Sebring a couple times a year so I am glad to hear you had no overheating issues at all. Did you have any issues with brake fade with the stock brakes at your track day?
Nope. Worked like a champ.
Hey bro - very nice video. I'm really a gun channel but I have the 2017 Camaro ZL1 and have done a couple vids with it. Mine is still under 3k miles at just over two years old - but I'm hoping better weather and lighter workload can help me rectify that a bit this summer. I have the M6 trans and enjoy rowing through the gears, but I'd love to feel the 10 spd sometime. Envy your access to a track! Mine is limited to Sunday drives.
Had a feeling you was in Louisiana when I saw Hood Chevy, then it was confirmed when you said Belle Chasse. I'm looking to get a ZLE hopefully soon. Subscribed
Did you change the brake pads and fluid before hitting the track?
What’s the Doug score though
Camaro’s have had independent rear suspension since 2010.
Didn’t mean to imply they didn’t. But before the alpha platform they were hideous IMHO.
Install a catch can on it especially since its direct injected, i have a 2016 camaro 2SS myself and installed one and within a week its already collecting oil
Beautiful car. I pick my 2019 ZL1 this Wednesday, can't wait. Trading my way less worthy 2018 GT350 for it. Really excited man.
Only thing I would say negative to ya man is you should of stayed true to the manual. I made that mistake before going auto in my hellcat. Never make that mistake again. Auto no matter how good they are, they just get boring. Good review......
Cheers pal.
The A10 is a lot of fun.
@@CWLemoine you must be getting old. Lol - enjoy!
Not really.
@@CWLemoine just messing with you. If your happy with auto that's all that matters. Thank you for your service.
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Great video and very interesting! Congrats on the year of vlogs! How do you think car will do with lots of miles on it? I'm averaging 22K miles per year in my Optima....
I’m looking at a new ZL1 or a used ZR1. What are some things you prefer about one or the other? Which one would you buy?
A C7 ZR1?
@@CWLemoine I’m sorry before I posted that I didn’t realize you had both! I watched your comparison between the ZL1 and the C7 so I am curious what you think of the C6 ZR1 vs the ZL1. Thanks!
For track use I’d get the ZLE. For cool factor I’d get the C6 ZR1
@@CWLemoine I would be using it for mostly street duty, maybe an occasional track day but I’ve never done one before so I doubt I could drive the either car to its potential. I like the ZR1 but the market is so crazy for it now. I’m trying to decide if it’s worth it paying 70+k for a used ZR1.. or just go with a new ZL1 for MSRP.
The ZR1 is a piece of history. The Zl1 will have better creature comforts. A ZL1 (non 1LE) is a great daily driver.
Between the z06 and zl1 with the 10speed which car do you recommend buying. Also did your z06 have the heat soaking issues
Z06 doesn’t have a 10 speed option. A8 only. If you want an auto, my vote goes to the ZL1.
Good review man The paint I heard is because Chevy use a cheap water base paint But it is a chevy
Great review. thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the informative/independent review! Glad I've a stake in GM ;)
What kind of stake do you have in GM?
C.W. Lemoine Own a few GM shares. The Chevy dealership in Slovakia has been closed down recently, no more test drives unfortunately.
Loved the video! Do another ZL1 video with a stick shift!!!
If you could go back and have the same car but in a manual would you pick it over the 10 speed? I am looking at getting one but the trans is the biggest problem I have.
Nope. Love the A10
No traction in second gear?! That’s absolutely absurd! Those cars were just too powerful!
It was a joke.
Man excellent review I own a 2017 Camaro 2ss I've been thinking about trading up to the ZL1
The ZL1 is amazing. 1LE version is better on the track but not recommended for daily driving.
Definitely more videos like this. Also, I enjoy the book videos as well...
^this
Love the review and have owned several muscle cars over the years. Also love airplanes and anything aviation equally as well !
I dont notice any orange peel on mine. My stingray had waves and orange peel all over it.
I just ordered a 21 zl1 in riverside blue metallic w/ m6
Aaaaand I still dont have it, thanks GM!
Great video I have the same color in a convertible amazing car
Is this ZL1 auto A10 comes with AFM (Auto Fuel Management) like Camaro SS auto ?
No. No AFM on LT4s
C.W. Lemoine
Thank for reply
GREAT REVIEW THANKS
Anyone else see Batman at 3:58?
Does it pull harder than an F/A-18?
Easy fix for not getting traction with the vette, buying decent tires.
Michelin Pilot Cup 2 tires on the ZR1. Brand new.
Love these camaros😍
Great update and review and I love the car. Being the only one that has mentioned the paint as an issue have you had any further issues or tried any corrections to the paint job? Also have you had any protective film kits installed ? Thanks
All 2010 and up Camaros have independent rear suspension
Already been mentioned and answered. I didn’t mean to suggest it didn’t. 👍
No biggie
are these cars reliable.. I need some guidance every 1.Should i get this Car or the Audi Rs3.
Jaison J Camaro’s aren’t known for great reliability, but that’s often the case with sports cars. People generally buy them for fun, not cuz they want a long-lasting car.
@@rick777888 so should I get rs3 then? If I take care of it .is it something that can last me 6 years
@@jaisonj92 I've never owned or driven an Audi though, you may want to talk to some Audi owners, get their opinions.
Jaison J Saudi will most defiantly be worst in the long run
Have had my ZL1 for almost three years. 25,000 miles now and in the dealer for major engine repairs. Six weeks and counting.
What happened to your car?
@@markmcintyre4707 Had to put a new cam and lifters in the car.
Do you know if they fixed the Orange paint pealing?
I haven’t heard of anyone having peeling issues.
C.W. Lemoine Thanks!
Just to clarify - are you talking about paint peeling or “orange peel?”
C.W. Lemoine I may have misunderstood, but I was asking about the way the paint looks over time? Does it start to look bad?
@@jdub1139 orange peel is a factory defect in which the paint has a textured look (like an orange peel) beneath the clearcoat. I have never heard of any cars with actual peeling paint.
Dream car
2900 miles in one year?
my 2017 f150 is that color, IMO that color blue is just about impossible for them to paint right. it aint that great on my f150 either, so don't feel bad
Would you buy this car over a 17 Z06
Yes.
CTS is Sigma platform, ATS is Alpha platform. 🧐
Nice video !
Get it professionally wet sanded and buffed! Get rid of the orange peel
The point is you shouldn't have to. It's an issue with GM quality control.
@@CWLemoine They spent a lot of money on a new paint booth for the Vette line; think that will trickle down to the Camaros? Rick Corvette Conti did a video on it last year.
Great in depth video, informative and useful for those considering this car. Keep up the great work and stay safe...Yeshua (Jesus Christ) is the way
Just Ceramic Pro the entire car and then it'll shine like crazy!!!
Did that for the ZR1. 👍
@@CWLemoine amazing !
Nice video 😎👍
First time in a car video I ever heard anyone mention how hard it is to hide guns in the car xD