Great video! Love seeing you go deep into the knife and finding all its secrets. We realize majority of Chaves Knife owners prefer the skull clip. While this new line of knives is easier on the wallets, we also wanted to be able to expand the Chaves Family, in order to do this, the plain clip was added, that way a person new to Chaves wouldn’t have to fight over the skull clip first, they could simply enjoy the knife; over time they would most likely adhere to Chaves Community Standards and swap the clips. As you mentioned, scales will be coming soon. A variety of different colored G-10s, titanium, brass, copper, and micarta. Our Red G-10 Exclusives drop on Monday! Ultimate Goals for this line of knives: - Budget friendly! - Customizability! - Spreading Chaves Knives to more people!
@@ChavesKnives Hey, I really appreciate your comment and the information! If you would like to send me a sample of the new scales, I would gladly publish a video about installing them! I would gear the video towards a person who has never modified a knife before. I will be happy to return the scales to you or use them as a giveaway to one of my viewers in the near future. My email address is in the channel description.
@@bigglock5478 Enjoy! I didn’t buy the full Ti because there are so many awesome knives in that price range that it was difficult to decide which one I wanted! Not the case in under $200 premium brand category!
At 2:12 you mention that the stop-pin's close proximity to it's pivot reduces the torque the blade can exert upon it, but I'm not sure that's right. Wouldn't the stress be increased? In construction, braces are used to keep rigid assembled structures from "pivoting" where they aren't supposed to. The closer a brace is to it's pivot-point, the more force is applied to it, and the weaker it becomes. Because the stop pin is preventing the blade from pivoting past it's designed stopping point, I believe it is a type of brace. And logic would follow that, like a brace, it will be more resistant to buckling forces the further it is placed from the pivot. Okay, back to the video. Love these detailed breakdowns.
Interesting point, however there is a clear distinction in the respective functionalities of the construction brace vs the stop pin. The stop pin is subject to impact force from the swinging blade and it is therefore indeed consequent that the greater the distance between pivot and stop pin, the greater the force of impact on the pin at the moment of the knife's closure.
I've always liked the look of the Chavez! Liked the look better with the clip screws on the inside. Guess that tells you which clip I would use ! I've never liked the price so this one might be for my collection. Interesting info concerning Reate's edge bevels !
I think they changed the pocket screws from mushroom head to flat in order to make them blend in more. Making the screws internal would defeat the whole purpose of this model as one would have to disassemble the knife almost completely to get to them. The idea is to swap scales with minimal effort. Ramon is thinking ahead here 😜
I traded a user Adamas and $60 for a full Ti 229 Kickstop and it feels like I made out like a bandit. Super impressed. Also I love when high quality meets budget like you see here. Great video.
🤣 Exactly! If Chavez is your speed, scull out! For everyone else there are Knafs, they have scale changeabilty too, but totally different attitude! And!!! now Ben can’t say that you can buy 3 Landers for a price of one Ramon’s Redencion!
Nice knife and video! As far Chinese made and USA goes America messed it up for the consumer long time ago.Super expensive in the USA that leaves us no choice.
I have had emails with Chaves about this screws through the skull clip and I was told that they are going back to the hidden screws in upcoming knives. I wish they did this sooner than later!
@@Layzboyedc They did on some full up models. It used to bother me but here is the case of function superseding cosmetics and I’m totally on board with that!
They look awesome! I was tempted until my friend got one and said the detent is weaker and less satisfying than the regular framelock versions. Ive had 3 framelock 229s and love them for the lockup spynds and feel.
The Austrian Bohler and the Swedish Uddeholms merged in 1991 to become Bohler-Uddeholm AG. Voestalpine AG then acquired Bohler-Uddeholm in 2007. So it's a Swedish subsidiary of an Austrian company.
I just can't justify paying over 100$ for a knife made in China. There are plenty of knife company's who charge same amount but pay their people decent and have to play by all the rules and regulations unlike China. We all should be supporting company's who keep their company's in our Country.
@@southside1975 Let’s hear which knife you bought lately, made in the US. Being a keyboard patriot is easy, let’s see if you put your money where your mouth is.
@@CuttingBoardRx All spydercos Endura k390 . swayback CTS-XHP, Manix 2 maxamet. Leafjumper K390 on the way . No keyboard warrior I was stating my opinion. I have hard time understanding why people would choose a knife made there verse Japan , Germany , USA. If you don't like open dialect I''ll stop commenting. Ihave 20 + spyderco knifes don't own one they have made in China I stand on what I said when they stop stealing and start paying their knifemakers I would have no issue with a knife made there.
Stop believing Epsteins & Diddys Wall Street cartels #RedScare propaganda about communism. Communism ☭ means the government works for the people (like our Constitution demands) and the laborers own part of the business since it goes nowhere without them. Only the don't need unions. Both parties are left & right butt cheeks of the same union busting slave wages political arse. A Uniparty of Wall St oligarchs, CEOs and stockholders aka co-owners who use divisive theatrics to keep us pitted against each other while they rob, and rape us to death. U.S. min wage is $7.25 per hour. Yet, we're dealing with historic inflation (illegal tax) because of monopolies in every industry governed by their own stockholders. Almost all the manufacturing is in China. They are better off than the US. They aren't dealing with millions of homeless civilians & Veterans, no medical debt because they get universal Healthcare, low rent because they don't let one Wall St giant own all the real estate and jack up rents, property costs, and so on. Capitalism is slavery. I am the great granddaughter of Native American slaves owned by the Moore plantation. 100 million of my people were slaughtered by the great grandparents & parents of Epsteins & Diddys partners-in-crime. They called us merciless savages. A Narcissistic projection: accusing your victims of crap they're actually doing themselves. My Native American autistic savant father was JFKs top cryptologist & code breaker/spook, counterterrorism assassin who kept us out of WW3 during the Cuban Missle crisis. The oligarchs are also high ranking military & Congressman/women, SCOTUS and POTUSs. Goldwaters, Weinbergers, McCains, etc. Their shills were lying to JFK so he would declare war against Russia. Ain't shit changed.
Nice knife and video! As far Chinese made and USA goes America messed it up for the consumer long time ago.Super expensive in the USA that leaves us no choice.
Great video! Love seeing you go deep into the knife and finding all its secrets.
We realize majority of Chaves Knife owners prefer the skull clip. While this new line of knives is easier on the wallets, we also wanted to be able to expand the Chaves Family, in order to do this, the plain clip was added, that way a person new to Chaves wouldn’t have to fight over the skull clip first, they could simply enjoy the knife; over time they would most likely adhere to Chaves Community Standards and swap the clips.
As you mentioned, scales will be coming soon. A variety of different colored G-10s, titanium, brass, copper, and micarta. Our Red G-10 Exclusives drop on Monday!
Ultimate Goals for this line of knives:
- Budget friendly!
- Customizability!
- Spreading Chaves Knives to more people!
@@ChavesKnives Hey, I really appreciate your comment and the information! If you would like to send me a sample of the new scales, I would gladly publish a video about installing them! I would gear the video towards a person who has never modified a knife before. I will be happy to return the scales to you or use them as a giveaway to one of my viewers in the near future. My email address is in the channel description.
I really enjoy your channel. Thank you for the information.
@@Francosmartcarb1 Thanks for subscribing!
Great timing. At the DMV and the wait is 2 hours. Have the 229 rendecion full ti tanto, so interested in what this budget version entails
@@bigglock5478 Enjoy! I didn’t buy the full Ti because there are so many awesome knives in that price range that it was difficult to decide which one I wanted! Not the case in under $200 premium brand category!
@@CuttingBoardRxafter watching, I’m convinced to buy this one in the standard blade. Thanks again. Looks like a great pickup
Great review and I’m about the skull clip and that got me into Ramon so I’m gonna toss the plain clip…I’m not carrying a Bugout!!!
Love these knives
At 2:12 you mention that the stop-pin's close proximity to it's pivot reduces the torque the blade can exert upon it, but I'm not sure that's right. Wouldn't the stress be increased?
In construction, braces are used to keep rigid assembled structures from "pivoting" where they aren't supposed to. The closer a brace is to it's pivot-point, the more force is applied to it, and the weaker it becomes.
Because the stop pin is preventing the blade from pivoting past it's designed stopping point, I believe it is a type of brace. And logic would follow that, like a brace, it will be more resistant to buckling forces the further it is placed from the pivot.
Okay, back to the video. Love these detailed breakdowns.
Interesting point, however there is a clear distinction in the respective functionalities of the construction brace vs the stop pin.
The stop pin is subject to impact force from the swinging blade and it is therefore indeed consequent that the greater the distance between pivot and stop pin, the greater the force of impact on the pin at the moment of the knife's closure.
Man. Your skills handling the knife impressed me , awesome
I've always liked the look of the Chavez! Liked the look better with the clip screws on the inside. Guess that tells you which clip I would use ! I've never liked the price so this one might be for my collection. Interesting info concerning Reate's edge bevels !
I think they changed the pocket screws from mushroom head to flat in order to make them blend in more. Making the screws internal would defeat the whole purpose of this model as one would have to disassemble the knife almost completely to get to them. The idea is to swap scales with minimal effort. Ramon is thinking ahead here 😜
I traded a user Adamas and $60 for a full Ti 229 Kickstop and it feels like I made out like a bandit. Super impressed. Also I love when high quality meets budget like you see here. Great video.
I bet the person you traded with feels the same way!
I love my Chaves kickstop and would like to check out that one also.
@@BluetoothBlades Sure! you can send it to me anytime you want!
Just kidding! I decided to stop borrowing OPKs. Too much pressure…
Definitely a great knife!
I love my Chaves knives!
I feel if anyone who doesn't rock the skull clip shouldn't buy a Chaves!
🤣 Exactly! If Chavez is your speed, scull out! For everyone else there are Knafs, they have scale changeabilty too, but totally different attitude! And!!! now Ben can’t say that you can buy 3 Landers for a price of one Ramon’s Redencion!
Any thoughts on the switch from internal to external screw holes on that infamous skull clip, gentlemen?
The way I grip and open the knife the skull bothers my fingers. The plain clip works great without annoyance.
@SuperGcraig I see, the inclusion of the plain clip makes good sense. Thanks!
Nice knife and video!
As far Chinese made and USA goes America messed it up for the consumer long time ago.Super expensive in the USA that leaves us no choice.
Finally we get what we pay for! Or do we? LMK please!
I have had emails with Chaves about this screws through the skull clip and I was told that they are going back to the hidden screws in upcoming knives.
I wish they did this sooner than later!
@@Layzboyedc They did on some full up models. It used to bother me but here is the case of function superseding cosmetics and I’m totally on board with that!
I guess I'm a weirdo I don't mind the holes in the head cause this probably makes it easier to take off then the hidden screws
Beautiful knife
I proud to be from his home town
Are these made by Reate then? Great channel man.
@@SHADOW-ke6xz Thanks for subscribing, yes these are Reate.
They look awesome! I was tempted until my friend got one and said the detent is weaker and less satisfying than the regular framelock versions. Ive had 3 framelock 229s and love them for the lockup spynds and feel.
Age related lack of dexterity😆
Easy Day 👊🏻
Skull Clip that Chaves is known for
Gotta go with the skull clip. Once I knew the meaning behind it I wouldn’t use anything else
What is the meaning behind it?
HIGHLY considering getting one of these. Always loved Chavez's style and his knives seem very functional.
I picked up the kickstop redencion from bhq for 199. Too many sharp uncomfortable angles
@@loosieclocker I feel kickstop is interesting and aesthetically pleasing but not a functional improvement
@ completely agree. Single deployment is limiting
You look alot like Ray..
Am I supposed to know Ray?
@CuttingBoardRx he is a tv character he you resemble him is all
Uddeholm isn't an American company with a German name, it's a swedish company with a swedish name...
@@CNYKnifeNut Are you sure? All their literature is in English…
The Austrian Bohler and the Swedish Uddeholms merged in 1991 to become Bohler-Uddeholm AG. Voestalpine AG then acquired Bohler-Uddeholm in 2007. So it's a Swedish subsidiary of an Austrian company.
Bench made knives are overpriced over hyped. Spyderco is going down the same road cheap metals and scales at high prices
It's nice looking. But, it's a Liner-Lock...
@@Kris_Stiletto True. But .075” thick liner made of steel… lockup is great btw.
THANK GOD its a liner lock!! I hate framelocks. The fact its a 229 with a liner lock is why I bought it!
I just can't justify paying over 100$ for a knife made in China. There are plenty of knife company's who charge same amount but pay their people decent and have to play by all the rules and regulations unlike China. We all should be supporting company's who keep their company's in our Country.
@@southside1975 Let’s hear which knife you bought lately, made in the US. Being a keyboard patriot is easy, let’s see if you put your money where your mouth is.
go find ANY knife in elmax for under $100 lmfao, ESPECIALLY made by reate. reate is literally top of the game.
@@acid6urns Your missing my point it's made with slave labor you don't mind but I do.
@@CuttingBoardRx All spydercos Endura k390 . swayback CTS-XHP, Manix 2 maxamet. Leafjumper K390 on the way . No keyboard warrior I was stating my opinion. I have hard time understanding why people would choose a knife made there verse Japan , Germany , USA. If you don't like open dialect I''ll stop commenting. Ihave 20 + spyderco knifes don't own one they have made in China I stand on what I said when they stop stealing and start paying their knifemakers I would have no issue with a knife made there.
Stop believing Epsteins & Diddys Wall Street cartels #RedScare propaganda about communism. Communism ☭ means the government works for the people (like our Constitution demands) and the laborers own part of the business since it goes nowhere without them. Only the don't need unions. Both parties are left & right butt cheeks of the same union busting slave wages political arse. A Uniparty of Wall St oligarchs, CEOs and stockholders aka co-owners who use divisive theatrics to keep us pitted against each other while they rob, and rape us to death. U.S. min wage is $7.25 per hour. Yet, we're dealing with historic inflation (illegal tax) because of monopolies in every industry governed by their own stockholders. Almost all the manufacturing is in China. They are better off than the US. They aren't dealing with millions of homeless civilians & Veterans, no medical debt because they get universal Healthcare, low rent because they don't let one Wall St giant own all the real estate and jack up rents, property costs, and so on. Capitalism is slavery. I am the great granddaughter of Native American slaves owned by the Moore plantation. 100 million of my people were slaughtered by the great grandparents & parents of Epsteins & Diddys partners-in-crime. They called us merciless savages. A Narcissistic projection: accusing your victims of crap they're actually doing themselves.
My Native American autistic savant father was JFKs top cryptologist & code breaker/spook, counterterrorism assassin who kept us out of WW3 during the Cuban Missle crisis. The oligarchs are also high ranking military & Congressman/women, SCOTUS and POTUSs. Goldwaters, Weinbergers, McCains, etc. Their shills were lying to JFK so he would declare war against Russia. Ain't shit changed.
Nice knife and video!
As far Chinese made and USA goes America messed it up for the consumer long time ago.Super expensive in the USA that leaves us no choice.