Mass Effect 2 Legendary Edition Shepard frees Quarian slave
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Shepard: "So slavery is legal here on Illium?"
Asari: "We prefer the term 'indentured servitude'..."
Shepard: "Did I stutter???"
Jeff Goldblum:
Actually, it's "prisoner with a job."
"I know that Batarians slavers have made humans understandably prejudiced against slavery." Actually, humans made humans prejudiced against it.
white made slavery be thought of as wrong since majority of slaves throughout history were white people.
@@toomanyaccounts Evidence?
@@jplb96 roman and greek history are pretty good evidence.
@@toomanyaccounts I'm afraid that isn't true, during the colonial era yeah sure but the whole world has practiced slavery in particular the Middle East and Africa itself. Most slaves were already slaves or enslaved by another tribe and sold by African slavers themselves.
The ancient era was full of slavery, tribals and "civilised" kingdoms/republics alike
Sheperd cares deeply for the Quarian people.
He also provides them with places to sleep someplace louder.
@@thatsicklypupYeah, that too. lol
Don’t we all care about the Quarian people?
With that visor your Shepard looks like he’s about to commit several war crimes, and I love it
Especially when he starts bolting at full speed towards that Asari
War Crime Shepard A.K.A Serbian Shepard lol
honestly that's one of the goofiest-looking visors I've ever seen, and given some of the headgear these games offer that's saying something.
Garrus, Vetra and Jaal are the only ones who have pulled it off so far.
He looks like the bald fat guy from mgrr
It's good to know Lex Luthor is against slavery. You don't see that in villains very often.
Several hundred thousand credits, in ME1 I had literally millions, where'd that go? Was I carrying it on me when Normandy got blown up, has anyone heard of a bank?
Buying all those fish is hella expensive.
Don't you get a message at the start of Mass Effect 2 saying that all your money went to taxes or something?
@@Wave_Boi yeah in LE version they added in og you never got that message cause i also wondered where all my damn credits went too lmao
I mean, to be frank do you really think you're gonna keep all that money whilst dead for two years?
@@joshwolf6932 IIRC in all human laws this side of the fall of the Inca Empire, nobody keeps a dime after they die. Even in Best Korea, aside from titles the elder Kims are too dead to do anything with.
It depends where Shepard has citizenship but roughly speaking if they die intestate their money goes to your closest living relatives. There's a point where, if they don't find any, the state stops searching and just takes it.
Gotta love the "Walk to the left and stop existing" exits in Mass Effect.
Poor thing
Always feel bad for quarians, who seem to be experts at getting themselves stuck in unfortunate situations. (Veetor, the woman on the citadel, falsely accused of stealing the villus’ credit chit, this one stuck in indentured servitude)
Don't forget about the quarian, who wants to leave omega.
@@vicentserrano9268 or for that matter... Tali, when you first meet her.
@@heefsies where tali and her team enter freedom's progress like the right place but the wrong time, same goes to haelstrom, yeah that sucks. Definitely going to save tali and recruit her first, loyalty mission second.
that convo with that karen volus is funnier when u bring tali
There’s just something about quarians that makes me want to do anything for them
It's okay I stole the illusive man's credit card I'll free her
Quarian: I’m so badly in debt that I needed to sell myself into slavery to get out of it
Shepard: here
*you have received 100,000 credits from Cerberus Account **#651*
I did the following and felt more interesting.
Went to the S.I representative and told her the slave broker told me. Then went back to the slave broker and there was a prompt to free the slave, did that. After she was free, I just went to the S.I representative again and asked if they're interested in a quarian even though she's free now but I still got more morality points.
I would’ve loved that if you have Tali, she could’ve given a small pep talk to the quarrian slave maybe give her some extra advice on how to more safely navigate her pilgrimage or what places are more amenable to quarrians if she ever needed a place to ground herself.
Also still wish that ME2 still gave you the chance to buy out and free the quarrian slave as I still had like several hundred thousand credits left over by the end of the game
I love this inclusion into the series, because it is a nuanced thing that not a lot of people get. There are different kinds of slavery, but we mostly associate the word to Chattel slavery, where someone is more like property or Cattle. And I can only imagine the people losing it on Twitter because they fail to understand the nuance of this situation.
Plus, in most cases throughout human history, slavery was better than being a servant. If you were a slave then you were a part of my clan. If you were a servant then you were just the help.
@@scroom1202 Yep, and that isn't say it was a good thing; just the cruel fact of life that, sometimes, it is simply better to be the shinier of two turds lol
This shouldn't even be called slavery. She agreed to work for them. How is that different from contract labor?
@@Dennis-nc3vw I suppose one could argue that the contract is too conditional and rigid, but at the end of the day, they agreed to the contract, if it was something hey read over and signed it must have been a fair deal, I defer to the servants judgement on that. I would argue indenturing yourself into servitude is not wrong because it is of your own free will, and the actions that force you to make that decision are a consequence of your own decisions.
@@Dennis-nc3vw From what I understand of Illium, they don't just send you to prison or sue you for "quitting". They are going to force you to work to fulfill the quota(s) of the contract... like a slave.
First Lia'Vael on the citadel, then Kenn on Omega trying to buy his way outta there and then there's this slave on Illium.
Man, I just feel bad for the quarians. They seem to have bad luck wherever they go.
Every time I do this assignment, I pick the lower dialogue option at the end. Shepard will say "I didn't do it for you, I did it for her." which I find to be a nice way to finish it off.
If I were Shepard I’d just be the one to support every quarian wherever they were or whatever problem they had
Look like Alex Murphy found new career.
Hey, thanks for posting this. I'd been hearing rumors that this sidequest got censored
Ahh yes, I too love not being able to see the face I specifically went through the charachter-creation process in ME1 to get.
Indentured servitude seems like it would be pretty common in any space faring civilization
Tbh i think it would be popular in our world today.Lot of people with debt that would sign that indentured servitude contract not to become homeless and out of debt
Literally imperial slaves from elite dangerous, the only difference is you can toss those guys into a black hole and no one would bat an eye
I find it funny bringing Tali to this assignment because without context the Rep would assume Tali is the slave
Lore is lore and I love this game how endless it is ❤️
So she bought bitcoin and lost big. Should have just hodl GME
Geth together strong
"EvEN iF YuO DiSAgrEe wItH aSaRI MoraLS"
So in my game play it’s not showing them, did they remove it?
It might take a couple of trips. It took me like three trips to that bar for it to happen
No, it's still in the game
That was so creepy @.@ the way that it was done in such a business like way. It’s slavery @.@
Reduce morality to a system of contracts and stipulations, and every atrocity becomes a lot easier to stomach.
If you take the humanity out of the equation, well, that's just called business.
@@rattles8789 very true 😅
@@abelcheng2073 it’s crazy how our brains can rationalize things
This still occurs today
There should be an option to add her and the quarian from the citadel into Normandy. Talia may have some company.
I feel that they work better as assignment exclusive characters even though I like them both as characters
Some of you in the comments really don’t get what kind of “slavery” is this, are you?
it is called indentured servitude and it technically is slavery since often the terms of such contracts someone never got out of it
Gamers aren’t the brightest bunch.
@@Fudgeoff6628Yeah well, guess you'll just have to excuse us for that...
We weren’t really given enough context to understand what kind of slave she is
Indentured Servitude = Conscription?
It works the same way, except it's usually in the private sector, it tends to last longer, including for life, and don't expect to play with guns.
No. It's more like voluntarily joining the army. The quarian agreed to sign up for this. The fact that people call it slavery blows my mind.
@@Dennis-nc3vw not like she had many options.
You heard her, she was in massive debt and based on my knowledge of the ME universe, this was probably the least shitty option available to her.
She even said that someone might send her to the mines.
If you choose the less shit option from two awful things, it’s not voluntary.
Otherwise you’d have wanted it from the start
@@frankwest5388 So if you're sick and a doctor operates on you, is it an involuntary surgery? Is the doctor no different than an organ thief who drugs you and cuts you up without your permission? As ugly as her situation is, the asari is, objectively speaking, not hurting her.
What headgear are you using I want it.
Archon Visor
Damn, missed this side quest. Are there new quests after beating the game?
No it just takes a few trips to trigger the assignment
I honestly hate this sidequest. the slave broker deserved a bullet, not to be paid in full. it didn't remotely feel like a solution shepard would come to- why wouldn't she just threaten the slave broker? it would be completely in character for shepard to just pull out a gun and say "here's my payment actually"
Because it wouldn’t solve anything, the whole point of this is more a matter of red tape, legal grey areas and contracts, the broker was at least trying to make sure that the individuals she placed where at least going to be safe and not abused.
There are different Types of slavery, for example the US prison system is a form, prisoners are paid 1 cent to “work” if they don’t they don’t get anything special, they can’t leave.
Going to a job you hate would be counted, it’s all down to the technicalities and grey areas, a contract of indentured servitude, while still a horrible thing at least doesn’t mean jail or worse, you have a end goal, of waiting for the contact to run out.
How would it not solve the problem? The quarian gets to walk away. shepard says "if I catch you hassling this quarian you die", which is a pretty common sort of resolution in mass effect.
Contracts and red tape and legal grey areas are the slave broker's problem. the quarian isn't going to be bothered about that when she's hopping back over to the flotilla.
Would it solve the entire institution of slavery on Illium? No, of course not, but that's no reason to do nothing. There's another quarian you can step in to help on the citadel, being hassled by the cops. That doesn't fix the systemic issues that caused a quarian to be unfairly targeted, but it did help that quarian.
@@lovestruck5346 the broker isn’t the one with the contract, they just find a placement, if anyone walks out of a contact they are in trouble.
Also she couldn’t go back to the Flotilla until she brought something back as I recall, as far as the system would be concerned to agreed to do something and then didn’t do it
@@samuelfawell9159 The broker said she's the one who paid off her debts. The quarian's contract is currently with the broker, but the broker only intended for that to be temporary before she sold the contract to a third party. At present, the only person who's set to lose anything is the slave broker and, as intimated, nobody should care what happens to her.
And yes, the quarian does need to bring back a gift, but Tali also said that it's rare for a captain to not accept a gift, and that it's more of a formality. There's a stigma for bringing a bad gift, but at the very least she'd probably have a good shot of just rocking up on the flotilla and trying different captains with literally anything she can find.
@@lovestruck5346 except while she’s a slave broker, she’s trying to find the best place for her servants, she not just selling them off into something horrible, which if your career is based on the handling of sentient merchandise, involves a certain level of compassion, she could just dump her off on the first person and just take the money, it explains why she’s not making much profit, she’s got a certain level of care, which is very rare.
The beginning has always irritated me. Sheps white knight moment demanding the broker free the slave when they know its legal and they have no authority here. The moral indignation about indentured servitude when it would have been common knowledge.
Yeah while I do like when Shepard tries to right some wrongs him trying to demand this asari to free the quarian feels out of place and kind of cringe in a way
It just makes me so angry how deluded the world is. Slavery means forced labor. Indentured servitude is something you agree to (at least on Illium). How can indentured servitude be slavery?
You're mad at a fictional game?
Indentured servitude is a form of forced labor and slavery, and is recognized as such in most places in real life. Granted, it's not usually as horrible as chattel slavery, but it's very different from a regular work contract.
@@samg.5165 Grouping indentured servitude with slavery is like saying expecting someone to pay their rent on time when they signed a lease is the same as mugging someone on the street. It's people making voluntary deals and then facing Maybury's First Law. Nothing more.
@@Dennis-nc3vw Dude, Maybury's "laws" are not actual laws, just legal theories. In the US and Canada at least, contracts are subject to the law of the land and are considered null and void if they breach public policy in any way. Not only is indentured servitude very, very illegal, it is explicitely forbidden under the US Constitution and in fact nearly every jurisdiction on the planet.
Your opinion that indentured servitude is not slavery is just that, an opinion. Now if you're saying that it *should* be legal, I don't know how to disabuse you of that ultra-libertarian fever dream.
@@Dennis-nc3vw indentured servitude isn't quite slavery, but shares the vast majority of it's problematic features that led to both being made illegal. It's because power dynamics exist, i.e it's not an equal bargain, someone facing starvation or homelessness is not someone volunteering. This is literally comperable to pointing a gun at a person's head and then reasoning that "it's a rational exchange for you to do as I say", old-liberals, like youve implied yourself to be however only consider violence as the only invalidator for some reason.