WandaVision Episode 9 'The Series Finale' First Time Watching! TV Reaction!!
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- WandaVision | Episode Nine - The Series Finale
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Another devastating end for Wanda... Excited to see where they take her story next!!
Thank you for all of the support!
Amazing reaction! Like always. There’s no more season of WV, this is a miniserie that will connect with other projects like Spider-man No Way Home, Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness, The Marvel’s (Captain Marvel 2).
I hope you and your wife now continue with The Falcon and the Winter Soldier. WandaVision was good, a little disappointing with the ending for me as a fan of the characters, but still had an amazing acting, good cinematography and it was a good show, especially for all the risk they took with this and how outside of the box from everything else in the MCU.
The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, it’s more of the typical MCU stuff, but they did a really good job, the only critique I have with that show it’s one of the villains but that’s all. The character development from Sam, Bucky and another character was amazing, the action was good, the acting was good from a lot of the actors and I liked more TFTWS, currently waiting for Loki like everyone else, I can’t wait.
I feel like she'll never get a really happy ending. I'm hoping her story arc really truly takes an evil direction so she can be the next big bad, on Thanos level. Because she really gets the short end of the stick every time, so I want her to take her happiness and in the process give us a new exciting villain. We'll see her in Dr. Strange 2.
@@marlon-eric Yeah, she doesn’t, Wanda is a tragic character. This is controversial because in the MCU the character powers aren’t portrait that accurate. Thor, Hulk and Doctor Strange can take Wanda, so she can’t be a solo villain, also she doesn’t have a good motivation. Why would you want Wanda to be a villain?
She is learning dark magic tho from the Darkhold, that book has Vampire, Werewolves and other stuff, so I think that’s how they’re going to get them in the Mcu for Blade.
But yeah, i can’t wait to see her team up with Strange in DS2.
The family fight position was a The Incredibles shout out.
1. Wanda kills Vision.
2. Thanos revives and kills Vision.
3. Wanda sees Sword dissecting dead Vision.
4. She sees her created Vision as dead Vision.
5. White Vision attempts to kill her.
6. She deletes her created Vision.
Then add the kids and fake Pietro and the vision of dead fake Pietro.
Fury in space was the post credits in Spider-Man: Far From Hone.
Monica has two separate superhero names.
This show is odd in that it had a huge amount of nods to the comics but almost none actually panned out, as Agatha was actually Wanda's mentor.
Regarding White Vision... Just because you have the memories doesn't necessarily mean he has the correct emotional ties to those memories. Picture him sort of as an amnesia patient in that regard. That's not to say it can't or won't be restored, who knows, but currently he's a Vision that's at least aware of who he is and what he's capable of, which is probably for the best for humanity. Haha.
Correct all the memories none of the emotional connection
It's not as simple as Vision simply using a paradoxical statement to confuse White Vision like the way Kirk used to beat AI in Star Trek. Vision actually convinced White Vision that the premise he was basing his actions on was flawed. He merely used a paradoxical thought experiment as a metaphor for their situation. What he said was completely correct, there was no trickery involved - neither of the Visions can be truly considered to be the original, yet at the same time, either could be reasonably considered a continuation of the original. Is a perfect copy the same being? Are any of us truly the same individual we were a year ago? What is a person? There is no definitive answer.
Both Visions were rational, logical beings, and what I like about their confrontation is it is a legitimate philosophical debate, rather than an attempt to get one over on the other. Both are interested in reaching the truth of the matter.
So, Falcon/Winter Soldier, next? :) Glad you liked the show!
Randall Park has made it clear he is up to do an "Agent Woo" show. Maybe where he investigates the "stranger than strange" in the MCU.
MCU x files with woo? Yes
We could call it Agent of SHIELD: Woo goes there 🧐😁
That ship of Theseus theory requires me to use the highest IQ of my brain, in this case the form of replaying the scene over 20 times.
The Book also is in Agents of Shield and The Runaways....very important piece in the MCU at least in the comics 😀 nice set up for the next Dr. Strange movie. Don't forget the Multipleverse anything is possible 😉😉 The X-men..
X-men arent coming any time soon.
Monica Rambeau was introduced as the second Captain Marvel in 'The Amazing Spider-Man Annual #16 in 1982.
Walter Lawson (a Kree named Mar-Vell) was the first Captain Marvel introduced in Super-Heroes #12 in 1967.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. started aligned with the MCU and worth a look. They had seven seasons.
They set her up to be Spectrum.
@@30noir In the modern comics Monica became Spectrum in 2013. Other codenames she has had are Photon and Pulsar. In the movie Maria was code
name Photon. Going forward Spectrum is a good name.
I loved WandaVision, it holds a special place and it a way cathartic for me. Take care
I think it’s awesome the two of you can watch shows and movies together. My wife and I can’t - 😂
Just an FYI it is highly unlikely the “Fietro’s” real name is actually Ralph Bohner. Agatha entered the Hex after it was already up, which means she moved into the house of someone Wanda had already “cast”. Ralph is the name Wanda gave him just like she gave everyone else show names in Westview.
My theory about Monica is that she earned her power because of 2 facts :
She was the only one who enter twice in Wanda worlds
And 2 it might be because she got vanished and reappeared from the snaps ...
My theory go further... To all those that vanished and reappeared are potentially future Mutants.... Remember Marvel want to introduce the x-men very soon...
The infinity Stones have all sort kind of power. Power that Mutants have ... Super strength, mind control, etc etc... Vision got his power from the mind stone... So Wanda and so Monica
The Darkhold is canon in the comics. It was part of a story arc in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. The problem with that book is that it's full of evil, and the more you read it, the more it can corrupt.
Wanda having her witch side study the book, like is definitely dangerous.
Her hearing her children could be Mephisto manipulating her from another realm to trick her to help free him. I think she may still free them, somehow.
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness will be directly connected to WandaVision. It will be directed by Sam Raimi so expect there to be some scares! You two are the best!
There isn't going to be a season 2 AFAIK, I think the assumption is this miniseries is leading into the next Dr. Strange film 🤔. But yeah Wanda's had a sad arch throughout the MCU 😢
Last scene showed that Wanda is much stronger than dr strange in the MCU, dr strange had to sleep to be able to study in astral form, but wanda can study in her astral form while her physical body doing something else, in a way two minds at same time
There was a lot cut out due to COVID restrictions. For instance, Darcy skipping the debriefing, was because the actress could not get back for the shoots.
I would like to know where robot vision flew off to after that logic battle… He just randomly took off somewhere on his own little mission.
Originally Dr. Strange was supposed to show up in the last episode and talk with Wanda but that didn't happen. They also talked about how those commercials in each episode are supposed to be secret messages from Dr. Strange himself trying to help Wanda
Both of the series' two villains got the punishments they deserve. Agatha (who is still entertaining and fun due to Kathryn Hahn's performance) is trapped in the role she made for herself to manipulate things and steal Wanda's power for herself while the irredeemable douchebag (as anyone who would shoot kids is) who is Hayward is off to jail (for good hopefully). Though much like with Loki, Agatha is just entertaining enough that I do want her character to return at some point, which I assume is why her fate is conditional and can be undone at the drop of a hat by the caster.
Also excited to see where Wanda's story goes next. Elizabeth Olsen is co-starring with Benedict Cumberbatch in the next Doctor Strange, but I hope this wasn't her final interaction with Monica. They understand one another due to their respective losses and grief, though Wanda's was constant and happened time and time again to the point you almost have to think fate is simply wanting to keep her miserable.
Some react with wariness to her reading the Darkhold, but honestly, why wouldn't she? There's literally a whole chapter about her in that book. She said she was going to understand her powers so as to not repeat this pain unintentionally inflicted and the literal source material on her powers is probably the best way to do that. And I suspect we're getting some Young Avengers stuff in the future and not just because of Billy and Tommy (who I do hope are able to return, given that little cliffhanger).
Honestly I enjoyed this series more than the movies, thanks again for sharing your thoughts analysis and always enjoyable reaction
White Vision is everything Green Vision is but without emotion or love and of course soul. This is directly from comics.....This will eventually change and he will return to his original form at some point. We will see him again.
Green Vision?
No reason to believe they will do a 1 to 1 translation from the comic to the MCU.
The Ship of Theseus scene was awesome! :)
Its a shame they cut out all of Dr. Strange's scene's :/ makes it really disjointed.
There's desperation with every character in the story with whatever motives and objectives are trying to be obtained... which is why it will connect to Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness..
I'm guessing Wanda's going to become a villain but then go to another timeline/multiverse or something. Just a guess.
Am I the only person on earth who thinks that when Wanda turned Agatha back into her nosey neighbor role, that she looked like one of the Wayans brothers in White Chicks? Just that one smile that you get to see for a split second at 11:26 here. Her face looks downright fake there. It's odd. I see it more when she speaks.
This whole time I pronounced Bohner as Bah-ner
You guys should watch the quiet place.
I tried to watch a reaction to A Quiet Place. It was not good, because the two people kept talking over it when, really, they should have been silent. To watch that movie, a reactor would pretty much have to say nothing during the whole time.
loved this guys!! hope you can check out FALCON AND THE WINTER SOLDIER!
Looking forward to your LOKI reaction. I hope you do it live!
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Okay, someone please eloborate to me why Hayward was arrested? I am serious. On which charges?
That is the only aspect that really peeves me about the series. He is depicted as a default evil Disney villain who is bad for the sake of being bad.
He violated sokovia accords. Jimmy Woo explained it in episode 4 or 5 i think.
Thx, that's a good point!
Yes, Monica Rambeau is the original “Female” Captain Marvel... (1) Captain Marvel “Male” (2) Monica Rambeau, (3) Current Captain Marvel formally known as Ms Marvel....who Rogue from X-Men stole powers from....drop of nerd 🤓 knowledge here......
Wanda is still a super villain, she enslaved a whole town because “muh feelings” and still doesn’t get any punishment for her actions she just flys away and doesn’t even apologize to the town people.
Wanda is kinda the bad guy. She is torturing thousands including children. Even the shield director was just trying to protect/save everyone.
Hayward was mainly trying to create (reanimate) an extremely powerful weapon that he could control. He didn't care about the people involved or who could get hurt. He really was only salivating at getting his hands on A Vision. He didn't seem to care which. Just because Wanda could be considered the bad guy, doesn't mean the person or people against her are the good guys or they mean well. If we assume he meant well, we also have to give Wanda's intentions equal consideration. She most definitely had a mental break & wasn't intentionally hurting people. Even in the finale she didn't seem to consciously realize she was hurting the people until they told her so in their own words.
Regardless if you’re conscious or not to the fact that you’re hurting people you are still hurting them. That doesn’t make it OK. And just for contextHalf of the universe had been dusted buy a mad Alien Titan. That’s sort of what sword is supposed to prevent, so wouldn’t that be their job to find any means necessary to protect their planet. So sure he was salivating to get his hands on vision but what evil plans did he have?? Besides stop a witch from torturing thousands of relatively innocent people because she can’t get over her boyfriends death.
@@juicyfruit4494 Boyfriend, parents, and brother. Not to diminish the fact that this person lost any and everyone she cared about. But, this is not about justifying Wanda's actions, 'cause I'm not, this is about sizing up whether, in comparison, who could be called "the good guy" or "the bad guy." I also didn't say that what Wanda did was OK. I said that Wanda definitely could be considered the bad guy here because of her actions, but I wouldn't classify her as a villain because she was unaware of her actions. Think of a child that shoots someone but didn't understand what a gun was. The child did a potentially horrible thing, but it is not a villain. A villain has knowledge of what they're doing and they justify their disregard for those they might hurt as collateral damage in getting to their goal of...whatever. They disregard other potential avenues that might cause less harm because it doesn't fit into their, usually, fear-based solution. I'm not saying that the situation of "The Blip" wouldn't freak ANYONE the hell out, but if you're in charge of an organization, cooler heads need to prevail and simply trying to kill what's frightening you (which you could not rationally kill 'cause you're massively outgunned) is not the smart move. Like I said, even if you give him the benefit of the doubt of his intentions being good, he was willing to kill whomever might get in the way. He sent white Vision in there, admittedly a hugely powerful weapon, with some idea that he could (probably) control it. It's directive was the destroy the Vision. Nothing about keeping casualties as low as possible or protecting the people of the town from Wanda. He was also willing, before that, to fire a missile in a residential neighborhood on the chance he could destroy Wanda. SWORD IS suppose to guard against threats originating from outside of the Earth, but that doesn't give them complete leeway to basically be scorched earth in their actions as a justification of POSSIBLY stopping a perceived boogeyman. We don't know exactly what his evil plans would be, but we can see his judgment and temperament is not the kind of person who should be making those decisions because he is making them based on fear of the unknown rather than figuring out how to diffuse the situation. He never thought to do that and didn't want to listen to anyone who had suggestions to do so. He's not the type of person that should be in charge of a power weapon let alone a powerful organization with powerful weapons. This is definitely not a black & white situation of hero and villain. I would say that in this complex situation, Wanda is the bad guy but Hayward is the villain, even though he has less overall power. His actions were fear-based, intentional with an "ends justify the means" mentality. Wanda left, in part, 'cause she was ashamed but also probably so she wouldn't have to face consequences, at least until she figures out what she is. So yeah, she's not the hero. Just a messed up person who's REALLY powerful.
Yes she is the ‘bAd’ guy, not that she even knew that until the very end. But of what happened throughout the whole show, it is something that is way more serious and deeper than you can just easily claim her to be the ‘bAd’ guy🙄 and about you saying ‘tHe ShIelD dIrEctOr blah blah’ did you even watch the show? Everyone who watches it clearly know what his stupid intention was, he doesn’t give a sh*t about the people, he only wants his weapon. He even wants to kill Wanda without knowing nothing about what’s going
Multiverse of madness is basically the season 2
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No. Multiverse of Madness would be Doctor Strange Season 1, with Wanda crossing over. Season 2 would either be The Scarlet Witch, or Scarlet-Vision. Something like that.
@@Whoo_Boy None of that literally makes sense
@@Whoo_Boy lmao maybe watch the Comic-Con 2019, interviews about the show or new rockstar.
Yes poor Wanda , dont forget she also lost her twin brother and her parents and witnessed all of them , plus vision and the boys . And also the innocent people she accidentally killed and intentionally killed. I believe this story continues in the the next doctor strange movie ( doctor strange and the multi verse of madness)
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but Im pretty positive that this will be the only season of this one but not the last we will see of The Scarlet Witch. I can't wait for The Multiverse of Madness when we will see her again.
I have only one objection to this final. Who gave Wanda the right to punish Agatha after what she herself made a resident of the city? Wanda kept them captive all this time and at the same time tortured them with her nightmares, to finally go away slowly, and Agatha was punished for the fact that she wanted to take the power from Wanda who was unable to cope with her, and she was punished quite cruelly. And this line by Monica about how They don't understand what she's been through. Seriously ?! after all, they felt all the pain and regret all this time :)
You guys didn't hear the voices of her children while she was studying the darkhold? But yes, it seems that Marvel series are going to be more one and dones, and setting up for later movies, cause Olsen has said that she was off filming Doctor Strange 2 during the pandemic, so I figure we'll see her again.
AND, apparently Doctor Strange was going to have a cameo in the series where it was revealed that HE was the one who was sending the commercials to try and get through to her. But they decided to not do that as it was a distraction from Wanda's story.
I love the fact that you guys watched it after the hype, you actually watched the show for what it is
Thanks guys , fyi this is the most expensive television show made to date , although there is one in production much more expensive but I believe they spent over 250 million in this on of series , or limited series
Its about time I was going crazy waiting on your reaction to the ending. Great reaction looking forward to seeing you folks again
You definitely need to react to The Falcon and The Winter Soldier next!
Hi guys amazing as always love the channel am new you guys should watch braveheart it’s amazing xx
My wife and I found this show stunning. We even loved the first episodes, before we had the slightest idea where it was heading for. Comedy, love, action, drama, so good!
Kevin Feige has already confirmed no season 2 of Wanda Vision but this storyline will continue in Spider-man No Way Home and even more in Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Madness as for Monica Rambeau her next appearance looks like will be in the Marvels in you want the complete list of movies that come out in 2021 2022 and 2023 then watch the trailer called Marvel at the Movies or something Similar to that
Probably mentioned in the comments but Monica had her powers as she travelled through the border of the Hex, going through the chaosworld between our world and Wanda's creation.
And yeah, having Evan Peters as a "fun thing to have" instead of really bridging the worlds was a major missed opportunity imho, they could've really opened the doors with this. :D
Awesome reaction once again! o/
great movie + reaction! Such a bittersweet ending.
I think Agnes gave a big hint about the future MCU when she said '... the Scarlett Witches powers surpass even The Sorcerer Supreme..." :)
Very cool
Hi TBR and Samantha,a few recommendations for movies for you to enjoy....Tom cruise "Minority report" and "Edge of tomorrow" George clooney "Oceans eleven" trilogy all great movies in their own right,hope you guys are safe and well :)
Oh and one of my top movies Matt damon "Elysium" so good!
It was so great to see the Scarlet Witch at full power.
Scarlet Witch is one of the most powerful and mentally unstable characters in the Marvel Universe, and a mutant.
It said series finale. I don't think there will be a second season
Did you watch predestination , fantasy island, happy death day &. Dark 🤨🤔🤨🧐
I rewatched these yelling every episode, "Wanda's really the villain!" :) lol
capeshit
Hay y'all, Wanda was and still is a villain in that story.
IMO, this had been the best MCU show so far
Monica becomes photon in the comics.
Hi, just wanted to say I love you guys and your video reactions! Not sure if you take requests/suggestions here, but could you do a reaction on the 6 episode miniseries called "GOOD OMENS? It's based on the graphic novel series of the same name. It's about the last angel and demon from biblical times living in today's modern world who have to work together to avoid Armageddon...the end of times. I think you'll like this comedy/drama about a very unlikely friendship...
Here's the link to the trailer for Good Omens.
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I loved this series but the biggest flaw for me was the Quicksilver McGuffin. I was so excited that maybe they were crossing over some of the original X-Men actors to the MCU, but no....we get Ralph Bohner.....:(
Thoroughly enjoyed watching the show highlights again after my initial viewing. Your commentary and post-show conversations were fantastic. Love your channel.
Just an FYI - There is no season 2 planned as of now. This plotline is rumored to be continued in the next Doctor Strange film, *_The Multiverse of Madness_* .
I was curious to see your reaction to the finale as a lot of UA-cam CC's reactions... I don't know what the right word is... let me down, so to speak?
So, what Wanda did was wrong. And there are no caveats or 'buts' to what she did. We don't get to mentally & physically subdue others (much less a whole town of people) because something bad happens to us or because we had a bad day and the show never really addresses that. A Person who accidentally kills someone (involuntary manslaughter/manslaughter) is still held accountable for their death.
Once Wanda realized what she was doing and then made the conscience *CHOICE* to continue to do it, that *IS* the moment of contention and she can no longer be "...I don't know what happen..." or "...I didn't mean to hurt anyone...". I can only hope that she is in some way held accountable for what she did. That a lot of us as viewers are so quick to let her off the hook is concerning me. Says a lot about us as a society. She shouldn't get special treatment because she's the star of the show. No one, hero or not, should be above the law. You can best believe if I were to go kidnap a whole town of people (regardless of the reason why I did it) and separate them from their children, there would be consequences.
In any event, as always, great reaction.
I was a little disappointed with the Monica dialogue at the end or her sentiments , I mean everyone has lost people ot doest justify anything
I think she’s just saying that they’ll view her as the witch she is even when she herself has experienced her own loss and suffering just like every human there. It’s not about justification more just understanding
@@alexroth882 perhaps but she also said if she could she would have done the same thing as Wanda , I understand it wasn't intentional but it was wrong those people suffered terribly and it was hardly heroic like Agatha said . There was no consequences for her , and Hayward is an issue wat exactly was he arrested for ? he had authority in the situation and money isn't a believable motive , he opened fire on the boys but they were technically an illusion, and visions body how did he acquire it , it was left in wakanda and was made from stolen vibranium from wakanda it would have been kept by them and how did it work it seems to have a stark like power source but equal to vision with an infinity stone ? seems odd , but a government spook type making a weapon is not a crime they would give him a medal and at worst he would lose his job , people like him have immunity from prosecution , imagine him in court he opened fire on a magical target that doesn't exist and I doubt attempted murder charges would hold up in court and they seem to have forgotten why Jimmy was in town in the first place , and not American but I believe witness protection is handled by the federal Marshall service not the FBI. ( I'm aware they had to change somethings from original plans for various reasons)
@@shanenolan8252 I'm guessing the consequences of Wanda Vision will be Act 1 of Doctor Strange 2. There will be consequences. Probably lots. Wanda Vision shows us what happens when someone who can Alter Reality suffers from extreme PTSD in the same way that Logan showed us what happens when the world's most powerful Telepath suffers from dementia. In addition to the weight of great responsibility, great power also requires great discipline. Because her powers are natural to her, Wanda has not had to earn her abilities with effort and the discipline that follows, nor has she reckoned with the responsibility that comes with the power she bears, but she will. Mordo (from Dr. Strange) is right about when he says that, "The bill always comes due," and Wanda has run up a huge tab. I have sympathy for her, she has never had a teacher, she was thrust into danger by Hydra and the Avengers, and she broke after she lost all the people she loved. However, regardless of the traumas we suffer, we are always responsible for our actions and reactions.
@@beatleblev yes that sounds right, also the darkhld book always has consequences it can amplify or make people evil or posses them , its curred sort off ?
@@shanenolan8252 I'm not sure how the MCU will handle it, but in the comics, the author of that book is the Marvel version of the Cthulhu (Chthon). Chthon is also the being who gives Wanda her Chaos Magic. The book is a portal to his realm and his way back to ours. I have heard that the villain of Dr. Strange 2 is another Cosmic Horror named Shuma-Gorath, so they may give this plot threat to him. Nothing good ever comes from the Darkhold. It is the MCU version of the Necronomicon.
Her “Family” isn’t even real. She made them up two weeks earlier. She didn’t sacrifice anything.
It doesn't matter that they weren't "real", what matters is that she lived those experiences, felt those emotions, made those memories. We are the sum of our own experiences. She still sacrificed, despite the fact that it was mostly a complex illusion.
If you've ever watched the Star Trek the Next Generation episode "The Inner Light", then you should be able to grasp that an "illusion" can matter.
Oh I get the “Illusion”. But what about the thousands of peoples “Reality”. Who had no choice. They even said children have been stuck in there rooms the whole time. And apparently they are all aware of it. So I’m sorry if I’m not sympathetic to the fake children that she experienced. But I am more concerned with the hundreds of real children that are being tortured. I love Wanda but she is a terrible terrible person and nobody in their right mind could justify what she did especially as a sacrifice.
So it’s OK she does all that because she’s upset that her boyfriend died?
You sound mad as hell and for what?
Nah not mad, just confused. As a huge fan and consumer of the MCU, I am disappointed with the noticeable quality drop. I suppose it was inevitable to some extent post Endgame. And sure I get she’s going to be one of the bad guys in multi-verse of madness. But she was one of my favorite characters and actors and the show is a huge left down.