Why Apple Removed The Family Emoji
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- Опубліковано 25 бер 2024
- In their latest iOS 17.4 update, Apple removed the family emoji that’ve been around for over a decade. Replacing them with these simplistic icons that many find unappealing. So why did Apple do this?
Well, it was the result of a process that began in 2015. When the unicode consortium, an organization responsible for creating industry standards for emoji, decided to make the characters more inclusive. Instead of only being yellow, they recommended emoji also include five skin tone options. - Наука та технологія
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I still have the original family emoji 👨👩👦 (idk if it works on other people)
@@Loaf-toastsame👨👩👦👨👩👧👨👩👧👦👨👩👦👦👨👩👧👧👩👩👦👩👩👧👩👩👧👦👩👩👦👦👩👩👧👧👨👨👦👨👨👧👨👨👧👦👨👨👦👦👨👨👧👧👩👦👩👧👩👧👦👩👦👦👩👧👧👨👦👨👧👨👧👦👨👦👦👨👧👧
@@Loaf-toast then you must have an old version of iOS
The first and last one are actually a family.
Inclusivity was LITERALLY the reason for emojis being yellow
Inclusivity by literally excluding everyone would never work. A white person feels closer to a yellow icon than a black person would ever do.
fr
fact 😂
I don’t think I saw a person using actual skin color for the emojis
@@amiibojeremiah809 yeah because it didn't exist did you watch the video
Now it looks like a group bathroom sign
Haha 😉😉
Cos that's what Apple users need
Oh no
😂😂
it does 😂😂😂
step 1: create a problem
step 2: solve it badly
Just keep them all yellow… that’s how the handshakes work
don't be giving them ideas now
🫱🏾🫲🏼
🫱🏻🫲🏿
Handshakes support skin tones (including a different skin tone for each hand) in different platforms
This is the most first world problem ever
I agree!
for real
All about lgbtq and race nowadays
@@KennethPlaysOfficial we didn't do shit. Its big big companies
@@shreyaspamaraju262This ☝
Just make them all yellow. Good, neutral color
As a yellow person, I approve.
Until a brain rotted individual sees it and gets triggered because of ‘representation’ 😒
As a lego man, yes i approve
yeah like people emojis getting different skin colours? that's okay. but i've never heard of anyone complaining about the family emojis not getting skin colours...
Lol😂
They went from a cartoon yellow that could represent anyone to making cropped bathroom signs to represent everyone. They did almost exactly what they did before but so much worse.
fr
Whos life revolves around emojis so much that they are inconvenienced by there not being an emoji that reflects exact skin tone shades of their family
exactly
Bro yellow skin tones just fine, theyre emojis, not portraits of u 🤦
Real
i used color for emojis before but for myself and sometimes ill stick to ol yellow
@@Thot_Patrol_USAsame lol
👨👩👧👦
As an Asian, I know that you did not just say that! I hope you realize how racist that sounds 💀💀💀
Someone really sat there and had nothing better to do than be upset that their skin tone didn’t match their emoji.
Yup, this was taken too far
Exactly, bro the skin is fricking yellow nobody looks like that
@@lb261benza-fu9wt And all the emojis faces are yellow, we don’t need to colorize every last emoji. It was fine with the yellow before.
@@LeahDykema yeah that what I thought too
We survived years without emojis.
Alternative option: make them all have blue skin and we’ll all be smurfs
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Is what happens when you try to please that 1 percent of people instead of the 95 percent who use your product.
math isnt mathing
That was why they were all YELLOW
200th like
👨👩👧👦👨👩👧👦
@@cheesehuiqwersjkanjhkasrhow
👩👦👨👧👨👩👧👩👧👨👩👧👦👨👧👦👨👩👦👪👨👦
Don't you a OTR player?
just leave them yellow
As a yellow person, I approve.
no what if some gay black person comes along and "feels" discriminated because the other man in the emoji is also black, but he could be white so apple would discriminate like 5 people on the entire planet and that cant be the solution
what a bunch of snowflake clowns have this generation become? wtf?
is this really what mankind has achieved?
I don’t think I’ve ever once used the skin-tone emojis. I thought the whole point of the yellow is that they could represent anyone because it’s not trying to represent any one specific group. The other tones just look odd imo. It doesn’t help that the regular face emojis are still yellow only so most people will just associate that yellow color with emojis anyway
2125: Deep dive: why lego had to remove the yellow minifigures
I am afraid they might not have more than a century ahead for that based on how things are going.
Typing "family" is literally 100 times faster than opening the emoji selector, searching for the (black & white) family emoji and then inserting "👨👩👦👦"!
I'm struggling to think of a single instance where a person would need to display a detailed picture of four different people that is about as large as a capital letter
'merica
@@Houswal 'MURICA
underrated..
I just used it for family contact names
Bahaha
HELL NAW THEY REVERTING TO AIRPORT SYMBOLS NOW 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
they look like straight from a wii
OMFG THAT’S THE WHOLE REASON WHY YELLOW WAS THE-😫😫😫
Families with three kids and more will now get hugely offended that they don't get a bathroom sign 🤦♂️
wait youre right these are fucking bathroom signs
“i NEED to change my TRIPLETS.”
Textbook definition of "to make things fair, no one gets to have anything"
This is equity.
Idk, I don’t mind the new ones, it does seem like there could be some not too difficult ways of making a UI for them, but the different skin tones with all the same hairstyle never really remotely resembled me anyway, so 🤷♀️
You could just make all the separate family member variations and then make a cross-platform compatible special unicode character to connect the separate emojis to create new emojis. Then leave it to the keyboard companies on how to implement it.
The more effort to make people happy makes them more happy
So instead of 52,000 emojis we went down to 4. Amazing reduction!
Like it didn’t actually start with 4. Just better ones.
That's what i call optimization
Sometimes less is more. Maybe you should learn it
@@scabento13 like half of the bag being filled with air
Even 7-Zip couldn't compress it better!
1960: I'm so excited for what computer's will be used for in the future.
2024: *pointlessly stressing about stupid emojis no one even uses*
I didn't notice that until I watched this video
They what
I hate how this wasn’t posted today(4/1)
"And when everyone's included... no one will be." -Syndrome, probably
Best comment.
Pretty much
Fr
..... how?
@@key37raminus because it’ll feel so general you won’t feel included
What about a family with 3 kids 😂
Why is everyone so feisty over emojis
Careful, if enough people say things like this we'll just end up with a single box with 'FAMILY' written very tiny.
One of them identifies himself as a cat, and another as an airplane
@@mEASYn as an f-16 attack helicopter i am deeply offended
5
This is proof that being offended for everything is a mental health issue. 52.000 emojis to not offend anyone… jeez….
i could have sworn i remember customizing the family emoji on ios before
Bro it's just an emoji lol, leave it yellow, who will think "oh man i really need an emoji of 2 multiracial gay parents with children"
Fr
Amen.
Srsly who even uses them anyway lol
I am literally in an interracial gay relationship with children and never once thought to racially customize a fucking emoji. Who is even complaining about this
@@mspaint93 ikr agreed
What’s funny is that this actually kind of makes me wondering why the family emoji even exists in the first place. Like, seriously, what conversations does that even ever get used for in any case?
I send the two guys holding hands to my friends who are straight 😂
Not in conversation, but it's good for message reactions.
In my company Slack, we frequently use reaction emojis to make puns, inside jokes, etc. The family emoji comes in handy more than you'd expect.
my contact in my friends phone is just a bunch of the gay family emojis
I use them all the time with my family. It just depends on where you’re at in life.
For eid conversation?
Honestly, Microsoft had it best. When you click on the emoji, have a "+" symbol pop up, and then customise your own family. The only reason the emoji didn't work was because it wasn't standardised, but that can easily be re-evaluated.
Huh i was wondering where they were
I don’t understand how can you get offended by emojis
Why the gotta be *white* silhouettes?🤨
@@ulisesr614 i sense a class action lawsuit!
Annoying liberals TRUMP 2024
(The nerd emoji kid sitting in the corner)
For example that emoji combo can be offensive
“..without leaving anyone out” by leaving literally everyone out?
You can’t please everyone on everything. They didn’t left anyone out, they’re less specific with characteristics now. And that’s perfect.
@@pablotorres9308 yellow ones would have been fine. Now they are unusably ugly.
If everyone is left out the everyone is equal ua-cam.com/video/fxHWtw_GZIk/v-deo.htmlsi=LmgPnJJ_9-TTT-Qv
@@pablotorres9308Yellow was ideal. It was understandable & didn't represent any real life skin tones. This "inclusiveness" stupidity is just that: stupidity
@@pablotorres9308no, it’s not.
i miss them 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I like how you can tap and hold an emoji than select it's skin tone on Gboard 👍🏼
I literally always just use the yellow emoji. I couldn’t care less about how relevant an emoji is to my skin colour, it’s a damn emoji!
Totally agree 👍🏻
I once switched it to dark and never remember to switch it back
I use the colored ones ironically
That´s me! I ONLY use the yellow ones!
I’m convinced apple is schitzophrenic, Literally no one in the history of the world looked at the family emoji and was like “ahh they are yellow that’s not inclusive!!!” 💀
except for that small batch of weirdos on twitter
@@no-one-1are these weirdos in the room with us right now?
Unicode Consortium mandated it...
Apple is the representation of America incase you don't know
How does this have anything to do with schizophrenia?
The group bathroom sign comment was funny 😂
Sweet baby inc must be high on ecstasy rn
I feel yellow was fine tbh.
It's like with lego minifigures, yellow is the default, perfectly universal.
By being more inclusive (in the sense that you're adding 5 different skin tones to something like 5 different emoji) it causes more issues and is a bigger pain to deal with.
Now you’ve just fucked Lego for everyone with that comment 🙄*
*meant in a joke way.
Exactly because you’re gonna need like five different shades of every skin tone and you’re still gonna get complaints because it’s not quite right the whole purpose of an emoji is to showcase emotion not showcase what you look like.
Still Lego also got skin coloured figures nowadays
@@thelegotechnicchannel1256the skin-toned minifigs are usually meant to resemble a person (say War Machine from Marvel) and aren't usually just used for default minifigs
Yeah, anyone who sends them with skin tones always feels strange...
Funny by trying to be more inclusive they became less by the criticism.
Sounds familiar…
Honestly says a lot about both then and the majority of companies these days. 🙄
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How is this less inclusive? Like who are they excluding now that they weren’t before?
@@NDM800 You are looking at my comment the wrong way.
The comment more states that the customization satisfaction of having a type of family, gender or identity display in your emojis has become less pronounced and more bland because the need to encompass all aspects of life and small groups instead of focusing on the general social aspect of it
@@NDM800 Yes, they included the aliens too because now the emojies can be interpreted as aliens lol.
Trying so hard to be not cancelled. If they had a chance, they would force leonardo to portray mona lisa seperately with different skin tone lol.
I never got the update-
i still have it💀
As a black man this feels an example of the severity of a problem not justifying the required complexity of a solution. I mean, there's a saying that goes "you cant please everyone". Even if Apple somehow manage to create an elegant solution to creating 52,000 family skin tone combination Emojis, that still wouldn't include everyone because there are more than 5 skin tones, and there are a variety of hair colors amd hair styles too. Some people have uneven skin tones, moles, scars, and dermatological conditions like albinism and vertiligo. And some families have 3 or 4 kids. We're never going to get to the point where everyone family in the world will be included in a family emoji. And even if it were possible, how important is it that teensie tiny caricatures which are in no way vital to communication through text look like exactly like you? Is it important enough to to drop thousands of dollars and man hours on the brightest minds to develop a system that can create millions of emojis then assigning a universal code to each one so that all devices can show them when they could be doing, i don't know, literally anything else actually useful?
Im more concerned about unequal treatment in the workplace than representation in Emojis. Maybe lets focus our inclusivity demands somewhere more impactful...
Guys he's right
At this point, we should just post selfies.
Simpson yellow for the win
The bright piss yellow was chosen as no race is so extremely yellow to remove the NEED of racial representation by representing NO race EQUALLY (in turn representing every race equally)and also removing racial baggage by making the emojis a fun bright unrealistic color that everyone will recognise as a humam
Although I feel like diversity in workplaces a lot of times is dumb. For example, as an engineer, programmer, or even at universities. I don't think race defines a person, and instead how smart someone is and who they are as a person. Someone's race shouldn't even be a discussion in workplaces because it doesn't matter! It's just a color of a skin! All I want is someone who is qualified for their position and not there because of some sort of race thing. If the underprivileged people can't get into Harvard it's kind of what happens! You have to be the best of th ebest.
I don’t even customise the emoji colours I just use them as yellow 💀
"actually thats a skull it isnt yellow"🤓/j
I'm so glad we don't have issues in this world that are any more serious than the skin colour of a non existing emoji family!
The 3 whole people that used that emoji are probably heart broken
I want to know the type of people who have nothing better to do other than getting offended for not getting family non yellow emojis
I would rather not know them.😅
@@Laura-tb7nmthe same people who push “lgbt” as something good
@@bumb.wingman tell me you're homophobic without telling me you're homophobic:
@@squid-123 ok 😂
@@bumb.wingman im lgbt and i didnt care about the yellow family emojis whatsoever. in fact, in my many years of being in the lgbt community none of my queer friends have ever had an issue with the yellow family emojis either. not only are you bringing up hating lgbt folks when its not bein discussed, your also just flat out wrong.
1:52 they changed it to the kidnapper emoji
2 people kidnapping 2 kids, 1 person kidnapping 1 kid, 2 people kidnapping 1 kid, 1 person kidnapping 2 kids
I still have it
?
I guess Apple getting the simplicity effect, and probably future companies :
Apple creating solutions for problems that never existed.
Fr
@@rie_okamatsu frfr
Just make all emojis with people have neon green skin. Problem solved.
but then all of those who believe they have a neon orange skin color will believe that they are crying for believing the believe
boogle vorp glory meeb👽🙏😭
it will 0ffend fбi
what about the sick emoji tho 🤢
literally why theyre yellow
I like the silhouette approach, it’s impossible to argue against
Except the Wii style went out of fashion like a decade ago.
@@cattysplat and so did using the family emoji, what about it
Still have it 👨👩👧👦👨👩👦👨👩👧👨👩👧👧👨👨👦👦
What about families with 3 children? And what about families with 4 children? And what about family with 5 children? And what about...
And what about uncontacted tribes in the pacific who will never see an electronic device?
Apple is not concerned with appeasing large families.
They can't afford an iPhone anyway so no loss there
@@exschweizer lol ok
womp womp
Tbh companies should just ignore some small 0.1% who gets offended for such a stupid reason. There always will be someone who wont be satisfied just so they have attention.
The problem is that these 0.1% are usually a loud minority which can make the issue seem bigger than it actually is
so you're saying that minorities should get ignored?
@@pixrgy just make the emojis yellow
@@pixrgyyes.
@@pixrgyare you saying that most minorities actually care about something so trivial?
Bro these yellow emojis were the most including thing ive ever seen and now they ruined it
I still have it
Update: Apple breaks apart families
In an attempt to make emojis more ""friendly"" they resorted to killing the emojis again.
Why cant they just stop
I still have the family emoji i haven’t updated yet
I had no idea this was removed. I still have the old family icon on iOS 17 ayeee 👨👩👧👦
👩👧👨👩👧👦👨👩👦👨👩👧👩👦👨👩👦👦👨👧👨👩👧👧👨👨👦👦👨👧👦👨👦👩👧👦👨👧👧👪👨👦👦👨👨👧👩👧👧👩👦👦👨👨👦👩👩👦👩👩👧👨👨👧👧👩👩👦👦👩👩👧👧👨👨👧👦👩👩👧👦
How????
👨👩👧👦 OH WAIT NEVER MIND I HAVE IT TOO
Yeah 👨👩👧👦
I have all of them too it maybe because the recent updates which we haven’t all got
I'm gonna be totally honest here, I have never ever used the Family Emoji, and I'm sure many other people as well. The families take up too much space in the emoji selector so I'm actually kind of happy for this change.
i didnt even know its gone if i didnt watch this video
I haven't upgraded yet!
People complaining about the need for skin tones... but actually Unicode has had a technical way to solve the problem of including people with different genders/skin tones/etc without blowing up symbol tables for ages. It's called combining symbols. They could have specified that sequences of single family member emojis should be combined into family pictograms on supporting clients. And on non-supporting clients it could still look legible. But instead they (or at least the platforms) opted for removing even the most basic inclusivity they had 🤦🏽♀️
People who use the skin toned emojis have their own problems. They're not meant to look like specific people, they're just meant to look like PEOPLE.
i like using yellow like emoji and dark dislike emoji to better distingush the like and dislike on discord polls
@@lostyawolfer that's wild 💀
@@lostyawolferthat's funny but clever
@@pythondrinkit’s really not tho.
@@ABC-sz7rd i think it is
Some smiley faces in the emoji heads could make them a little bit more humane
But that wouldn’t be inclusive for unhappy families
@@Geebanger0 OMG 🤣🤣🤣
I still have themmmmmm
What’s the problem with yellow?
Maybe the perpetually offended think yellow is racist somehow
nothing, the Simpsons deal with it just fine
The existence of people with light skin offends twitter users
Iets because is races sinds US White or Black and this stupid emoji isyellow en de Sims Sims Don ‘t like
@@Poland_lithuania_countryball Are you okay
Now they don't look like a family at all.. good job unicode corporates..
I can still see the family emojis
Man now the emojis look like a grouped bathroom sign, just kept them yellow 🟡 🤦
It would have been awesome if the Unicode Consortium had laid down standards to do it as Microsoft had done it. I personally find the less simplistic version of the family emoji easier to understand than the new minimalist ones, and allowing for custom family emoji solves this problem handily. In fact, a whole upgrade to emoji standards to allow for customization would be nice! I could use emoji with my hair color and skin tone, and possibly different hairstyles! Who knows?
Emojis aren't meant to look like you, they're meant to look like PEOPLE.
As if people actually used the normal ones
Well, those are real problems…
In fact, for those companies we're not more than that: "Clients" with different contexts to consume, instead of people with different genders, skin tones, and personalities.
Yellow is nice enough, people are just too demanding these days…. Do you want bathroom signs looking emojis then? it’s the perfect example of demanding too much and getting less than what was originally given.
This was a good use of everyone’s time.
I didn't notice that they changed the family emojis.
When is this change happening or is it USA only? I still have the yellow family options.
When you update.
Ah, 17.4.1, I hadn’t seen that was available, thank you!
You know, not everything needs an emoji.
We should have a Happy, Sad, Mad, Sleepy, Thumbs Up, Thumbs Down, and OK. That's all the emojis I see necessary.
@@TheLordOfNothing Shocked, Angry, Neutral, Check Mark, X mark, Infinity Symbol, Some other necessary symbols and emojis
what about heart? @@TheLordOfNothing
@@TheLordOfNothing keep the skull emoji
@@amogamogus9595 You Zoomers practically use it as punctuation now.
I literally noticed this this morning as I have the emoji on a group chat and I was like woah what happened to that?! 🤯
Man people expect skin colors in everything, its in almost everything, i support multiple skin tones options but on the families case it just was excessive and not practical, in this case the yellow (which no real person has, asian people are not yellow mind you) worked best for incluvity and practicality.
Man Im sad to know they'll take them away (im an android user) I loved how cute the families were and liked all the different combinations were and how they were still inclusive.
And even then if you want racialized families including biracial, you can put each personalized skin color family member separately but together in the same text.
There's always ways to do stuff without over complicating it.
👨👩👦
I still have it. Maybe because I haven’t updated my phone yet
They should have always stayed yellow
Agreed. Was a mistake to add these skin tones from the start. There’s no point because the regular face emojis are still yellow only. Not very “inclusive” lol
no they shouldn’t have.
@@ABC-sz7rd
snowflake detected
My family emojis still exist
The Emojis were not PC enough
Love your videos!!
Thank God I didn’t update mine
👨👩👧👧👩👩👧👧👨👨👧👧👨👧👧👩👩👦👨👨👧👩👦👩👧👨👨👧👦👨👨👦👦👩👩👦👦👨👩👧👦👩👦👦👨👩👧👨👩👦👦👨👩👦
people who didn’t update gang
@@mytromic I'm still on ios 14 with iphone 7
@@mytromic people who are about to get their devices vulnerable gang* here i corrected your statement
@@neggas- wdym
I still have them 👨👩👧👦
One less emoji that I won't even know is there, let alone use
So. Basically let’s no offend anyone.. ugh 😑 ppl are so easily offended now there’s more in life to deal with than skin tone variations
shut up josh.
Ignore the above comment josh, you keep cooking.
no ones offended they just didnt want everyone to be one colour
you go josh! (ignore the guy above me)
@@coolguydoesstuff7876 how dare you say to ignore me 😡😤
Jk
**Laughs in iPhone 8 Plus**
Edit: Mama I’m famous
Laughing in Nokia
Bro still has a family❗️
laughs at 2 hour battery life
*laughs in iPhone 6s*
OG FAMILY EMOJI GANG
*laughs in IPhone 8*